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I can't wait to see this movie. It looks awesome, and kinda frightening all in one.

The link to the trailer is below:

An Inconvienent Truth (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2078944470709189270&q=an+inconvenient+truth&pl=true)

Plus it apparently 'stars' al gore. I guess he narrates or something, like Morgan Freeman did in that March of the Penguins thing.

AAAAGGGHHH!!! Oh my god RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!! Im so terrified, I can't believe it! AAAAAGGHHHH:rolleyes:

Oh, how I love to see the politicization of an inevitable event in human history and by love I mean want to go back in time and suffocate in infancy.

We can’t do anything about it at this point; the powers that be simply will not stop pumping greenhouse gasses into the air. Humanity has survived (and at times thrived through) climate change before. We have no way of knowing if this temperature shift could actually benifit us. A much more pressing and more often ignored issue is peak oil.

Guys, I'm super-serial. ManBearPig is coming. He doesn't care who you are or what you've done. He just wants to eat you.

Is this something on global arming, global warming, and how he inventing the internet?

I'm really looking forward to seeing this movie but I'm not at all pleased that Al Gore didn't realize the knee jerk reactions he has caused.

Oh, how I love to see the politicization of an inevitable event in human history and by love I mean want to go back in time and suffocate in infancy.

We can’t do anything about it at this point; the powers that be simply will not stop pumping greenhouse gasses into the air. Humanity has survived (and at times thrived through) climate change before. We have no way of knowing if this temperature shift could actually benifit us. A much more pressing and more often ignored issue is peak oil.
There is plenty that can still be done to help Climate Change from becoming worse than it can be.

Is this something on global arming, global warming, and how he inventing the internet?
It's about how global warming. Is. Coming. To. Get. Us.

There is plenty that can still be done to help Climate Change from becoming worse than it can be.
Perhaps, but nobody is willing to do anything about it, nor am I sure that I’m comfortable with the effects of significantly cutting back on transportation and manufacturing worldwide. The last Great Depression didn’t exactly produce the most ideal situation.

Perhaps, but nobody is willing to do anything about it, nor am I sure that I’m comfortable with the effects of significantly cutting back on transportation and manufacturing worldwide. The last Great Depression didn’t exactly produce the most ideal situation.
Alternatives are being pursued and for the most part they work to either decrease or eliminate pollutants. Look at how Tim Flannery's book has done to start a change of outlook in Australia. Once they realized that they were losing their Great Barrier Reef due to Climate Change, they suddenly got interested in trying to save one of their greatest tourist attractions.

Alternatives are being pursued and for the most part they work to either decrease or eliminate pollutants. Look at how Tim Flannery's book has done to start a change of outlook in Australia. Once they realized that they were losing their Great Barrier Reef due to Climate Change, they suddenly got interested in trying to save one of their greatest tourist attractions.
That doesn’t remove the C02 already in the atmosphere. Anyway, besides cattle, Australia is nearly insignificant in the output of Greenhouse gasses. China, India, the US and the EU is where it’s coming from and only one of those is even trying (failing) to cut back.

Besides what serious alternative to oil is there? Ethanol? Don’t make me laugh. It would take the entire land area of Africa to grow enough corn to replace pure petroleum in North America.

looks like a rip-off of the day after tommorow which means its terrible because the day after tommorow was terrible to begin with

this is one of those films that tries to scare you with outright propaganda to which I would rather watch my goldfish for an hour and a half since I know it wont lead me to hiding in my bomb shelter

Clearly Al Gore is controlling Global Warning. This is his way of threatening us. We all need to vote for Al Gore, or he'll drop polar ice caps on us.

I'll wait for the book. :)

I'll wait for the book. :)
Here ya go,
http://www.synapseadaptive.com/ada10/images/Earth_in_the_Balance.jpg

Oh, how I love to see the politicization of an inevitable event in human history and by love I mean want to go back in time and suffocate in infancy.

We can’t do anything about it at this point; the powers that be simply will not stop pumping greenhouse gasses into the air. Humanity has survived (and at times thrived through) climate change before. We have no way of knowing if this temperature shift could actually benifit us. A much more pressing and more often ignored issue is peak oil.
The Powers that Be? You speak of those like gods. You do realize the Powers that Be are a select few individuals, making individual, personal decisions?

I can't wait to see this movie. It looks awesome, and kinda frightening all in one.

The link to the trailer is below:

An Inconvienent Truth (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2078944470709189270&q=an+inconvenient+truth&pl=true)

Plus it apparently 'stars' al gore. I guess he narrates or something, like Morgan Freeman did in that March of the Penguins thing.it's things like that that make me wanna quote George Carlin...

We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails."

And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet.

What? Are these fucking people kidding me? Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the fucking planet?

I'm getting tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. I'm tired of fucking Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.

Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine.

The PEOPLE are fucked.

Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun?

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference?

The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!

We're going away. Pack your shit, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.

You wanna know how the planet's doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet's doing. You wanna know if the planet's all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilauea, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we're gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, 'cause that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...asshole.

So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now. And I think that's begun. Don't you think that's already started? I think, to be fair, the planet sees us as a mild threat. Something to be dealt with. And the planet can defend itself in an organized, collective way, the way a beehive or an ant colony can. A collective defense mechanism. The planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet? How would you defend yourself against this troublesome, pesky species?

Let's see... Viruses. Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And, uh...viruses are tricky, always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps, this first virus could be one that compromises the immune system of these creatures. Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus, making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along. And maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.

Well, that's a poetic note. And it's a start. And I can dream, can't I? See I don't worry about the little things: bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we're part of a greater wisdom than we will ever understand. A higher order. Call it what you want. Know what I call it? The Big Electron. The Big Electron... whoooa. Whoooa. Whoooa. It doesn't punish, it doesn't reward, it doesn't judge at all. It just is. And so are we. For a little while.

looks like a rip-off of the day after tommorow which means its terrible because the day after tommorow was terrible to begin with

this is one of those films that tries to scare you with outright propaganda to which I would rather watch my goldfish for an hour and a half since I know it wont lead me to hiding in my bomb shelter

er... the day after tommorow is fiction... this one is a solid theory, based on solid facts.

er... the day after tommorow is fiction... this one is a solid theory, based on solid facts.
While the Day After Tomorrow is fiction. it's a story baised on scientific Facts.

While the Day After Tomorrow is fiction. it's a story baised on scientific Facts.

yes, but wildly exaggerated in terms of time-scale.

While the Day After Tomorrow is fiction. it's a story baised on scientific Facts.Yea, sort of like Humpty Dumpty's based on the scientific fact that eggs crack when dropped from a hight

Yea, sort of like Humpty Dumpty's based on the scientific fact that eggs crack when dropped from a hight
actually, that is wrong. in the nursery rhyme, they never stated what Humpty Dumpty was.

you are assuming that HD was an EGG.

it's things like that that make me wanna quote George Carlin...

Quite a good quote as well. Shame that it only comes to show how even the most enlightened men on this planet ultimately end up bending over to a minority of power-hungry unscrupulous politicians, without putting much of a (practical) fight.

How could we ever survive, if no one wants to believe we can?

this is one of those films that tries to scare you with outright propaganda to which I would rather watch my goldfish for an hour and a half since I know it wont lead me to hiding in my bomb shelter

No, but it might lead you to take the bus now and then instead of driving around in a 6 miles to the gallon 4x4

actually, that is wrong. in the nursery rhyme, they never stated what Humpty Dumpty was.

you are assuming that HD was an EGG.

Erm yes he was. It wasn't originally a nursery rhyme, it was a riddle. The answer being an Egg.

yes, but wildly exaggerated in terms of time-scale.

Well if the mamouth thing is true (IE Mamouth's being found frozen with food still in their mouths) then I'd say at least part of the timescale is accurate.

actually, that is wrong. in the nursery rhyme, they never stated what Humpty Dumpty was.

you are assuming that HD was an EGG.OK, let's try a better analogy; It was based on scientific fact, much the same way that my ability to fly is based on scientific fact.

Better?

Erm yes he was. It wasn't originally a nursery rhyme, it was a riddle. The answer being an Egg.
nope, it was orignally a drink.

and there are several other possible origins including Alice in Wonderland.

but concentrating on the riddle. the riddle is still baised on facts.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall,
Threescore men and threescore more
Cannot place Humpty Dumpty as he was before

OK, let's try a better analogy; It was based on scientific fact, much the same way that my ability to fly is based on scientific fact.

Better?but you can fly. go sit in a plane and you will fly. :D

Day after tomorrow was baised on facts, but it was still Ultimatly a FICTION Story.

but what you have to realize that as a Fiction story. certain things are exaggerated.

now if you said the Day After Tomorrow portrayed the facts like a Micheal Moore Documentary.


then I would agree with you.

That doesn’t remove the C02 already in the atmosphere. Anyway, besides cattle, Australia is nearly insignificant in the output of Greenhouse gasses. China, India, the US and the EU is where it’s coming from and only one of those is even trying (failing) to cut back.

Besides what serious alternative to oil is there? Ethanol? Don’t make me laugh. It would take the entire land area of Africa to grow enough corn to replace pure petroleum in North America.
To replace petroleum in all of its uses or just in vehicles? I'm really not sure how much corn it would take in that case.

I'm more for a free for all. Just do what you can to make things greener whether that means solar paneling on your house, driving a hybrid or using wind power. I don't think any changes will happen soon enough with focus on only one alternative.

Also, Australia is important because they were one of the countries which were most politically opposed to the science of Global Warming (up there with the United States) and unlike the United States are actually beginning to do something beyond the States mere lip service.

I can't wait to see this movie. It looks awesome, and kinda frightening all in one.

The link to the trailer is below:

An Inconvienent Truth (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2078944470709189270&q=an+inconvenient+truth&pl=true)

Plus it apparently 'stars' al gore. I guess he narrates or something, like Morgan Freeman did in that March of the Penguins thing.

i cant wait either...since i work so much and suffer from insomnia,and a toothache that only seems to flair up when i try to sleep..seeing as al bore i mean gore is in it...i will definately get time to nap!woohoo!

I'm more for a free for all. Just do what you can to make things greener whether that means solar paneling on your house, driving a hybrid or using wind power. I don't think any changes will happen soon enough with focus on only one alternative.
Both solar and wind power take up prohibitive amounts of space and require petrol powered vehicles and petrol products to build and mantain.
Hybrids are expensive and oil is more than likely being used to create the electricity that helps power them.

Meh. I'll care when Al Gore becomes Emperor of the Moon. :p