Have you ever been on the wrong end of a firearm?
Daistallia 2104
14-05-2006, 10:49
This post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10954780&postcount=39) reminded me of the two times I ended up in similar situations.
The first was in high school, when my friend was pulled over by the police in his van. When he said the officer could look in the back, he forgot to mention I was asleep while I was asleep in the back. I jumped up in startlement, and was instantly looking down the barrel of a .357 mag. of and equally startled officer.
The second was in college, involved a pretty girl, a stupid kid (me), late night trespassing, and a rancher with a 12 gauge.
Nothing came of either one (other than a much more profound respect for the sound made by working the action of a pump shotgun :eek:).
So who else has wound up looking down that black hole or otherwise been on the wrong end of a firearm?
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 10:52
Yeah. I live in Alabama, hick central. Why my ancestors never left this shithole, I don't know. Anyway, most people around here hate me for being black and I've been beaten up by the KKK three times. The second time, they threatened me with a gun and the third time, they acually shot me.
Ukantbeserious
14-05-2006, 10:53
Everytime I play paintball.*
*Paintball markers are classed as Firearms under Australian law:(
Pandions
14-05-2006, 10:54
No. But i was on the RIGHT end of one with a scope, fired it, and the scope went into my forehead. I didn't notice until i looked in a mirror :D
Serandar
14-05-2006, 10:57
I have a few times. Most I shrugged off because of circumstance.
The only one that truly scared me was a little old lady. It was the 7th day of a snow strom with no lights and my Grandmother with Alzhimers found the (loaded) pistol and pointed it at me and said, "I don't know who you are but you better get the f*** out of my house" :eek: . Well, I had known her all my life and I knew she would pull the trigger, so I took a little walk till she could forget about it.
knife yes, gun no. Never actually seen a loaded gun that wasn't carried by a cop.
Serandar
14-05-2006, 11:01
Yeah. I live in Alabama, hick central. Why my ancestors never left this shithole, I don't know. Anyway, most people around here hate me for being black and I've been beaten up by the KKK three times. The second time, they threatened me with a gun and the third time, they acually shot me.
My God man, you have legs get out of that state! I lived there a few months and that should be classified as "Cruel and Unusual Punishment"
Straughn
14-05-2006, 11:01
Actually, yes, and both shots fired and not fired.
A couple of times growing up, family members and friends of theirs (but that was just our household, really).
Twice just being the wrong place at the right time - once in San Jose (dealers were two houses west & across the street from us - major woofer fans)
and the other time, bafflingly enough, in front of a Sunday school service building. Hit it.
I've never "took one for the team" - although my brother did stab me in the leg with an ice pick. Somewhat accidental.
Oh yeah, also the time with the best man from my wedding. The incident really didn't have to do WITH the wedding - it was a few years earlier.
The Infinite Dunes
14-05-2006, 11:01
Yeah. I live in Alabama, hick central. Why my ancestors never left this shithole, I don't know. Anyway, most people around here hate me for being black and I've been beaten up by the KKK three times. The second time, they threatened me with a gun and the third time, they acually shot me.Harsh... How come your family is still living in Alabama, I would have thought they might have moved after you got shot.
As for, I'm the person in the linked post. Had a gun pointed at me 2 or 3 times. But I've never heard a gun being fired outside a film, TV programme or video game. And I am so glad for that.
Monkeypimp
14-05-2006, 11:02
knife yes, gun no. Never actually seen a loaded gun that wasn't carried by a cop.
Ditto, and that was in Australia :D
Serandar
14-05-2006, 11:03
One time I was in a girls bed. We had just finished and she put a revolver to my head cocked the hammer and informed me that we were done now and it was time for me to leave since her daughter would be up soon to go to school.
Ditto, and that was in Australia :D
lol :p
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:06
My God man, you have legs get out of that state! I lived there a few months and that should be classified as "Cruel and Unusual Punishment"
Yeah, it sucks, but I'm a girl.
Harsh... How come your family is still living in Alabama, I would have thought they might have moved after you got shot.
As for, I'm the person in the linked post. Had a gun pointed at me 2 or 3 times. But I've never heard a gun being fired outside a film, TV programme or video game. And I am so glad for that.
Well, I'm living by myself right now, and I don't have the money to move. My mom's dead and my dad's in jail.
Straughn
14-05-2006, 11:07
One time I was in a girls bed. We had just finished and she put a revolver to my head cocked the hammer and informed me that we were done now and it was time for me to leave since her daughter would be up soon to go to school.
Another woman with communication and intimacy issues! :mad:
Serandar
14-05-2006, 11:08
Yeah, it sucks, but I'm a girl.
Apologies ma'am
Serandar
14-05-2006, 11:09
Another woman with communication and intimacy issues! :mad:
I think she communicated herself rather effectively
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:09
Apologies ma'am
'Sokay.
Boonytopia
14-05-2006, 11:11
No. The only guns I've used & seen used were when hunting wildlife. I've never seen one brandished in anger.
Daistallia 2104
14-05-2006, 11:12
Why the Lunatic Goofballs choice? Myrth not good enough for ya?
Well, yeah. 'specially as Myrth isn't active anymore. Plus, I always liked LG better. :D
Serandar
14-05-2006, 11:13
No. The only guns I've used & seen used were when hunting wildlife. I've never seen one brandished in anger.
What if some of the guys were angry at the deer? Maybe some of them had like deer issues. You know, like antler envy or something.
The Infinite Dunes
14-05-2006, 11:16
Yeah, it sucks, but I'm a girl.
Well, I'm living by myself right now, and I don't have the money to move. My mom's dead and my dad's in jail.Life just seems like a bundle of joy for you at the moment. Hope things get better for you.
Straughn
14-05-2006, 11:17
Well, yeah. 'specially as Myrth isn't active anymore.No, no ... Myrth will ALWAYS live on, in our hearts and in the faces of newborn children.
Plus, I always liked LG better. :DWell, i can see more of an association with "Flesh Skep" in respect to firearms than many OTHER topics 'round here ... *thinks "People Under the Stairs"* ;)
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:17
Life just seems like a bundle of joy for you at the moment. Hope things get better for you.
Well, it's not like him being in jail is a bad thing. Hated the bastard. But anyway, the subject is guns. Just about everyone has one here. I've got one. It's just a .22, but I don't feel safe without it.
Yootopia
14-05-2006, 11:20
Never been shot it in anger, but I have actually had several loaded shotguns pointed at me. You know how it is I'm sure, you're just chatting with your mates, walking through a farmer's fields (that you don't know are private land because they didn't put a fucking sign up).
And then BAM!
About 6 people running/driving tractors towards you. A hedgehog in the headlights moment, so to speak, where you can't move.
And then you're surrounded by people you don't know, which is bad enough early in the morning, and when they load up their shotguns and utter the classic (and I shit you not, the leader did say this) line "Get orf moi blaady LAAAAND!" you are slightly worried.
So yeah, me and my mate ran away as fast as our eleven-year-old legs could carry us, which was fast enough it would seem.
Oh and Azarath, that's extremely bad luck. I hope your fortunes improve quickly.
knife yes, gun no. Never actually seen a loaded gun that wasn't carried by a cop.
had a knife thown at me once... didn't realize what it was till I stuck my hand out and caught it in midair... by the handle....
Yes, I manged to keep a straight face as that asshole realized what I just did...
But I'm really proud of the fact that at that precise moment I neither shit nor pissed in my pants.
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:24
had a knife thown at me once... didn't realize what it was till I stuck my hand out and caught it in midair... by the handle....
Yes, I manged to keep a straight face as that asshole realized what I just did...
But I'm really proud of the fact that at that precise moment I neither shit nor pissed in my pants.
:D Niiiiiiiiice.
Zexaland
14-05-2006, 11:26
Yeah, it sucks, but I'm a girl.
So the KKK beats up on girls, now? Shit, they suck. I thought they just beat up guys.
So the KKK beats up on girls, now? Shit, they suck. I thought they just beat up guys.
the KKK: They're an equal Gender discriminator. :p
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:29
the KKK: They're an equal Gender discriminator. :p
Equal opportunity biggots.
Equal opportunity biggots.
gotta admit... they may be Biggots and assholes, but they're fair Biggots and Assholes.
Zexaland
14-05-2006, 11:30
the KKK: They're an equal Gender discriminator. :p
Faith in Humanity -25 :headbang:
Straughn
14-05-2006, 11:31
I think she communicated herself rather effectively
I didn't mean she was bad at either - just that she clearly had issues in those two respects, as evidenced by how few people will likely have shared that particular anecdotal experience with you.
I did have an ex tap me on the adam's apple once while my head was in her lap, and coyly "ask" me if i knew how truly little it took to kill someone. She was a sweetie. The day i left, she tried to run one of my friends over with a truck. Actually, i have lots of funny stories about her, but not many involving weapons, sadly - so i'll stop here for now.
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:32
gotta admit... they may be Biggots and assholes, but they're fair Biggots and Assholes.
"Hey! Why are you beating up him, but not me?! I'm just as black, y'know! Dissin' ma bruthas in da house, fo' shizzle and all that."
Faith in Humanity -25 :headbang:
you consider them part of Humanity? :eek:
"Hey! Why are you beating up him, but not me?! I'm just as black, y'know! Dissin' ma bruthas in da house, fo' shizzle and all that."
LOL :D
Yeah, it sucks, but I'm a girl.
Well, I'm living by myself right now, and I don't have the money to move. My mom's dead and my dad's in jail.
wish I could help... if you decide to move to Hawaii, let me know and I'll help with the rental hunting.
tho if money's tight... I don't suggest Hawaii...
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:36
LOL :D
The sad thing is, I have no idea if anyone actually talks like that because I'm stuck in this yokel paradise. At least in the ghetto I'd be respected.
Zexaland
14-05-2006, 11:38
you consider them part of Humanity? :eek:
Nope, to a point, but I have lost a little faith in humanity for letting these assholes be able to do this crap.
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 11:43
Nope, to a point, but I have lost a little faith in humanity for letting these assholes be able to do this crap.
Haveing met one or two of these rather nasty people myself whilst in America a few years back, I have often had to refrain from going back with a small arsenal of weaponry and showing them the meaning of "running for your life".
As for being shot, yes, several times and its not a pleasent experiance by any means. I was a medic in the army for over 25 years and went to some interesting places where I met many interesting people, although in soem cases not for long.
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:45
Haveing met one or two of these rather nasty people myself whilst in America a few years back, I have often had to refrain from going back with a small arsenal of weaponry and showing them the meaning of "running for your life".
As for being shot, yes, several times and its not a pleasent experiance by any means. I was a medic in the army for over 25 years and went to some interesting places where I met many interesting people, although in soem cases not for long.
What war were you in?
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:46
wish I could help... if you decide to move to Hawaii, let me know and I'll help with the rental hunting.
tho if money's tight... I don't suggest Hawaii...
I'm thinking somewhere like Minnesota or New York. Maybe Canada. They've got free health cover.
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 11:46
The sad thing is, I have no idea if anyone actually talks like that because I'm stuck in this yokel paradise. At least in the ghetto I'd be respected.
You'll have to forgive me, I am not an American, but is there not some kind of group or govermental commitee or something that could help you out? I mean if you have actually been beaten up and even shot by the scum of the earth (although I reserve a special place for neo-Nazi's) is there not some people who could help you out: whether it be moving or with a bit of money or something?
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 11:48
What war were you in?
Several, and each one was one to many. Suffice to say I have lost confidence in our various nations leaders and even in a large portion of humanity since I was a wild-eyed kid out of Uni.
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:49
You'll have to forgive me, I am not an American, but is there not some kind of group or govermental commitee or something that could help you out? I mean if you have actually been beaten up and even shot by the scum of the earth (although I reserve a special place for neo-Nazi's) is there not some people who could help you out: whether it be moving or with a bit of money or something?
No... none that I can think of. If they weren't wearing those damn masks, then the cops might be able to help me out. But I have a sneaking suspicion that at least one of the cops is in with them.
HotRodia
14-05-2006, 11:49
Didn't BWO start a topic like this just before the move to Jolt that you and I discussed this in, Daisy?
*feels old*
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 11:50
Several, and each one was one to many. Suffice to say I have lost confidence in our various nations leaders and even in a large portion of humanity since I was a wild-eyed kid out of Uni.
That's sad. I'm never joining the army.
Daistallia 2104
14-05-2006, 11:53
had a knife thown at me once... didn't realize what it was till I stuck my hand out and caught it in midair... by the handle....
Yes, I manged to keep a straight face as that asshole realized what I just did...
But I'm really proud of the fact that at that precise moment I neither shit nor pissed in my pants.
Hehe - pretty cool. Reminds me of something from high school orchestra. During the middle of a concert at an orchestra contest, the conductor caught his baton on the edge of his music stand. It popped out of his hand and went spinning way up in the rafters. When it came down, he caught it just perfectly on a down beat. :eek:
Daistallia 2104
14-05-2006, 11:56
Didn't BWO start a topic like this just before the move to Jolt that you and I discussed this in, Daisy?
*feels old*
hehehe
Damn! There ain't too many people left who remember when Beeker hung that one on me. :D
Yeah, it might even have been me who started it, but I do remember it.
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 11:59
No... none that I can think of. If they weren't wearing those damn masks, then the cops might be able to help me out. But I have a sneaking suspicion that at least one of the cops is in with them.
And yet I seem to recall reading a report in which the American administrtaion was boasting that there was no racism in their police forces... Surely the KKK should be outlawed or banned or similar.
That's sad. I'm never joining the army.
Oh no, don't get me wrong, I made friends for life, saw vast tracks of the globe and had great fun. But it gave me an appreciation for the fraility of human life, and the human body. Even when I was studying medicine at Uni I did not fully comprehend what it was like.
But anyway back on topic, anyone else ever been shot?
Oh and tip for you all, if anyone is ever pointing an automatic rifle at you, do exactly what they say. They tend to fire very haphazadly (well those which you are likely to encounter: ie outside the military) and you will not be able to predict where the rounds might go. However with single shot or semi automatic I would still say do what they say.
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 12:06
And yet I seem to recall reading a report in which the American administrtaion was boasting that there was no racism in their police forces... Surely the KKK should be outlawed or banned or similar.
Technically, it's an illegal terrorist organization. However, there is no law against having rallies while dressed as pointy ghosts, and because of free speech, they can say whatever they like. Assault, however, definitely against the law.
Anyway, back on topic, when someone's pointing a gun at you, and you know that they could kill you without a second thought, you get this amazing sensation of clarity. You understand completely what your life has added up to exactly what you've accomplished. I don't know if it works this way with everyone, but that's how it was with me.
Hehe - pretty cool. Reminds me of something from high school orchestra. During the middle of a concert at an orchestra contest, the conductor caught his baton on the edge of his music stand. It popped out of his hand and went spinning way up in the rafters. When it came down, he caught it just perfectly on a down beat. :eek:
now that would've been something to see.
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 12:18
Technically, it's an illegal terrorist organization. However, there is no law against having rallies while dressed as pointy ghosts, and because of free speech, they can say whatever they like. Assault, however, definitely against the law.
Anyway, back on topic, when someone's pointing a gun at you, and you know that they could kill you without a second thought, you get this amazing sensation of clarity. You understand completely what your life has added up to exactly what you've accomplished. I don't know if it works this way with everyone, but that's how it was with me.
First time I had the buisness end of a firearm pointed at me I got that senstaion. Everything becomes perfectly clear and actually having passed through the raging rapids of fear, terror and sh*ting myself, I was almost calm. Personally I think it has something to do with the massive amount of adrenaline in the system and a mix of feelings, but it seems that your sense suddenly become knife sharp. You take in everything.
Second time and the times after it was more a feeling of "Oh damn not again, it hurts like hell and I don't want to be treated in this hell-hole".
I never noticed it, but some of the patients I treated for gunshot wounds told me that the first feeling of being shot was one of immense numbness for a few seconds. I always explained that it was down to the impact force deadening the pain recepters for a a short time. But one chap said to me that it was Gods way of helping you escape.
Anyway, as I have said, if you can possibly avoid it don't get shot. I found it more painful than being stabbed, and the reconstruction work the doctors get left with is quite something.
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 12:29
First time I had the buisness end of a firearm pointed at me I got that senstaion. Everything becomes perfectly clear and actually having passed through the raging rapids of fear, terror and sh*ting myself, I was almost calm. Personally I think it has something to do with the massive amount of adrenaline in the system and a mix of feelings, but it seems that your sense suddenly become knife sharp. You take in everything.
Second time and the times after it was more a feeling of "Oh damn not again, it hurts like hell and I don't want to be treated in this hell-hole".
I never noticed it, but some of the patients I treated for gunshot wounds told me that the first feeling of being shot was one of immense numbness for a few seconds. I always explained that it was down to the impact force deadening the pain recepters for a a short time. But one chap said to me that it was Gods way of helping you escape.
Anyway, as I have said, if you can possibly avoid it don't get shot. I found it more painful than being stabbed, and the reconstruction work the doctors get left with is quite something.
When I got shot, it was numbness at first and I was lying there for several minutes after they drove off before the white-hot pain started. Then I got up and called an ambulance. By the time it arrived, it didn't hurt as much, or maybe I'd just gotten used to it. I dunno. I think they probably meant to kill me, cause they put the gun under my jaw. The bullet just passed through my mouth and went out my cheek, though, missing my brain entirely.
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 12:36
When I got shot, it was numbness at first and I was lying there for several minutes after they drove off before the white-hot pain started. Then I got up and called an ambulance. By the time it arrived, it didn't hurt as much, or maybe I'd just gotten used to it. I dunno. I think they probably meant to kill me, cause they put the gun under my jaw. The bullet just passed through my mouth and went out my cheek, though, missing my brain entirely.
Oh good grief! I've only seen wounds like that once, and by Gods it was unpleasent. I'm sorry for asking this, but how were you able to call the ambulance? The man I treated for it was unable to speak for over a month because of the damage to his tongue. Did you lose much blood? If so that might account for the lessening of the pain, along with the stage one pain recepters shutting down after 15 mins or so.
Just a thought: if it was at point-blank range that would explain the longer period of numbness.
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 12:41
Oh good grief! I've only seen wounds like that once, and by Gods it was unpleasent. I'm sorry for asking this, but how were you able to call the ambulance? The man I treated for it was unable to speak for over a month because of the damage to his tongue. Did you lose much blood? If so that might account for the lessening of the pain, along with the stage one pain recepters shutting down after 15 mins or so.
Well, they had taken my cell phone (along with all my clothes for some reason), so I just kept walking till I found a pay phone and dialled 911. The operator asked if I needed police, fire or ambulance. What I said was something like "Allglulefss". She didn't understand me, so she said "Grunt if it's police." I didn't grunt. Eventually we got to ambulance. I couldn't tell them where I was, so they had to trace the call to the pay phone.
Saint Ash
14-05-2006, 12:49
Is there such a thing as a right side of a gun???
The Gate Builders
14-05-2006, 12:50
Compared to having a great big boomstick pointed at you, any other side is the right side.
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 12:52
Well, they had taken my cell phone (along with all my clothes for some reason), so I just kept walking till I found a pay phone and dialled 911. The operator asked if I needed police, fire or ambulance. What I said was something like "Allglulefss". She didn't understand me, so she said "Grunt if it's police." I didn't grunt. Eventually we got to ambulance. I couldn't tell them where I was, so they had to trace the call to the pay phone.
Well all I can say is very well done indeed.
Is there such a thing as a right side of a gun???
Yes. The right side is 3000 miles away. I take no pride in the fact that I have both shot rifles and been shot, and would personally support any movement to completly remove them from all but military use.
The Realm of Azarath
14-05-2006, 12:57
Well all I can say is very well done indeed.
Thanks. It's nothing compared to your experiences, though. I'd probably have nightmares if I'd been thorugh what you have. Actaully, I dohave nightmares, and not about getting shot. But that's irrelevant.
Mariehamn
14-05-2006, 13:15
I have been at the wrong end of a firearm but only thanks to careless people.
The people in question have not had a fiream in their grib in my presence ever since.
If I ever do end up at the wrong end of a boomstick, I will make sure to invite the individual holding that weapon - most likely a pistol - to a beer. I have heard that booze usually solves most problems of this sort.
No. But i was on the RIGHT end of one with a scope, fired it, and the scope went into my forehead. I didn't notice until i looked in a mirror
Heh, I was practicing with a pistol this one time, for the first time. I was aiming it like a rifle, nice and snug up with my face, when my father, being the good man he is, pointed out that if I pulled the trigger I would get a nice smack in the face when the pistol ejected the bullet I just fired. Man saved me from some expensive medical bills.
I've been shot at by a 12-gauge shotgun when some asshole went on a murdering spree inside a mall back in Ohio. Luckily, I ducked behind one of those standing billboards(you know, the kind that are huge and thick and all lit up and stuff) and the guy had his head blown off by a mall cop a few seconds later.
I was also shot at repeatedly with a Beretta. Some dude was drive-by shooting having some fun in downtown Denver. Fucking urban people...
The Gate Builders
14-05-2006, 13:33
Yeah, fucking urban people, living in their cities, with thier built-up areas!
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 13:36
Thanks. It's nothing compared to your experiences, though. I'd probably have nightmares if I'd been thorugh what you have. Actaully, I do have nightmares, and not about getting shot. But that's irrelevant.
No, I think your experiance was rather worse. I knew what I was signing up for (well the army did pay for my medical training at Uni, good grief that was a long time ago) and I was able to get good medical care very quickly. The fact that each time I was within 10 feet of my medical bag, with some nice morphine phials helped as well.
I do get the occational twinge, but apart from that nothing really.
Anyway, as I said before, well done.
Oh and Mariehamn, I like the idea of tempting them with booze.
I've been robbed twice. The first time, some punk kid said he had a gun and demanded my wristwatch. I don't think he really had a gun, but I wasn't willing to risk it for a cheap watch.
The other time, the robber DID have a gun, and demanded my wallet.
Gun Manufacturers
14-05-2006, 18:07
I've had the wrong end of a .357 pointed at me when I was working at a tribal casino in CT. I had gone down to the armored car bay for the first time with the daily bank deposit, the armored car guards were loading the bags into the vehicle, when the door opened (the door is not supposed to be opened when they're out of the vehicle). It was just some guy coming in there to throw some trash out (the bay doubled as a trash collection point), and one of the guards pulled out his revolver. Since I was standing right next to the door, I got swept with the muzzle. After all was said and done, the guy that wasn't supposed to be in there got yelled at by the guards, and got out of there quick, fast, and in a hurry. I had to stay there until the rest of the bags were loaded, though.
Oh, and I've been swept before while I was working at Wal-Mart (I worked in sporting goods for almost 2 years). Prospective gun purchasers would be looking at the firearms, and it would happen (I knew the firearms were unloaded, as I checked the breach before I handed it to them, but it still shouldn't have happened).
Can't say I have and can't say I would like to be.
Aylestone
14-05-2006, 22:31
Its not a pleasant experience.
Plistendom
14-05-2006, 22:56
I had a business end of a .22 semi automatic pointed at me. Took one shot that took a chunk out of my arm...not pleasant. Also helped take down a guy armed with a gun (after he forgot to reload it). Got to be on the radio. that was cool. but I don't recommend ever trying that. He pulled the trigger without thnking on another guy who ran with me...thank god it was empty...
knife yes, gun no. Never actually seen a loaded gun that wasn't carried by a cop.
Same.
Funny...there was a Met. Police guy over helping out the PSNI (local police) at a major sporting event recently, and the Met. guy was the only one without a gun. Must have been odd for him, to be working with armed police as a matter of routine.
Soviet Haaregrad
14-05-2006, 23:18
Cops have pulled guns on me before.
They don't like kids with fireworks, I guess.
Same.
Funny...there was a Met. Police guy over helping out the PSNI (local police) at a major sporting event recently, and the Met. guy was the only one without a gun. Must have been odd for him, to be working with armed police as a matter of routine.
I remember hearing about an idea to have some kind of exchange programme with the gardai(irish police) and the PSNI. The gardai would have jumped on the idea, cos they don't get to carry guns on duty.
I remember hearing about an idea to have some kind of exchange programme with the gardai(irish police) and the PSNI. The gardai would have jumped on the idea, cos they don't get to carry guns on duty.
I think I remember hearing about that.
Needless to say, Paisley wasn't best pleased about the idea :rolleyes:
Dododecapod
15-05-2006, 01:18
Fuck Paisley (repeatedly, painfully, and fatally, please. Make the world a better place).
Twice, I have been on the wrong end of a loaded weapon. The first time was when I was on leave in Rome. I noticed that there was a disturbance up ahead, and I went to see what was going on.
Well, it turned out somebody'd been shot. The Carabinieri were everywhere, and one of them noticed the handgun I had in my pocket (sharp eyes - but then, these guys were good). Half a second later, I'm surrounded by black-clad cops with SMGs, and being ordered to assume the position - which, being the level-headed, well-trained Marine I was, I did.
Once they checked my ID, they let me up, gave me my gun back, and the lieutenant apologised for the incident in quite good english. I complimented his people on their professionalism, and went on my way.
The second time was just before I left the military. A new guy, just out of training (name witheld to protect the idiotic) was fooling around. With a loaded pistol. In MY barracks (acting Sergeant here...). And was pointing it towards the door when I walked in.
Now, I'm a pretty easy-going guy. Mostly, I figured my Marines knew what was expected of them and just needed the occasional nudge to keep them on the straight and narrow. But I still put that guy through seven kinds of hell over that one - including having to redo his firearms safety training AND requalify on all his weapons.
No accidentals in my platoon. Ever.
Straughn
15-05-2006, 01:58
Cops have pulled guns on me before.
They don't like kids with fireworks, I guess.
Oh yeah, i completely forgot about that!
I did before - i was walking past the local high school with my army pack on, and they veered in front of me and drew beads. I was like "What the f*ck?!? Are you gonna shoot me?"
And they said "stay there! Don't move!"
I yelled "Explain yourselves! I'm not doing anything but walking! If you're gonna shoot me, do it, because otherwise you're wasting my time!"
They looked at each other and one said, "A fourwheeler was stolen about half an hour ago, about 20 minutes' walk from here."
I blinked and said "i've been along the highway longer than that.
Hey, wait - if i had the fourwheeler, would it make a lot of sense to be walking alongside the road with my backpack on?"
They looked at each other and lowered their sidearms.
Then they walked up to me after asking me to take off my pack .. "It's not in there, probably" i said.
They said at least they'd like to check my ID, since i somewhat matched the loose description of the suspect - a six foot white guy (!).
I shook my head and handed over my id, and then they asked if i had any weapons in the pack. I said "whaddya need?" (Steven Wright)
And then i said, "seriously, do you think i'd tell you that? I'll show you, but you can't reasonably expect people to just forgo the Fifth Amendment."
They nodded and pretty well ascertained that i wasn't the kind of threat they were concerned with.
So, they asked what i DID have in it, and i said mostly books - i opened it up, and i'd forgotten that i had a Star Trek toy phaser in there, which looked a lot like a taser to them.
"What's that?" one of them (Mitch) bristled.
"That's a Star Trek Phaser. Part of a whole ensemble." i said.
"In your pack?" he asked.
"I use it to irritate my coworkers." i said.
He asked to see it, and looked it over.
"But it doesn't do anything?" he asked.
"Well," i said - "it makes noise and lights up. That's one of the ways it's irritating."
"Oh" he said, looked at it a second more, and promptly shot at the other cop.
I had to just grin. The other cop rolled his eyes and said "I think i'm done here", and got in his car and drove off muttering something.
Good times.
Liberated New Ireland
15-05-2006, 02:01
Security guards have pulled guns at me in a guarded way, but I've never been held at gunpoint in anger.
Knifepoint, on the other hand...
Syphilonia
15-05-2006, 02:24
i was shot when i was 12, thats four years ago, by a guy who walked into my grandmother's convenience store intending to rob it. i started to run away, and i got shot in the leg. that guy got it worse, though. while he was aiming at me, my grandmother pulled the shotgun out from under the counter and damn near blew his leg off. that man is lucky to be alive.:sniper: meh, ill get him later... lol
~Supreme Dictator Gern
Zarathoft
15-05-2006, 02:42
I have twice...and both times it was a cop. I've done some stupid things. One was for breaking an entry, and the other time I was out past curfew in which I tried to run but I didn't know there were two of them sneaky bastards.
Liberated New Ireland
15-05-2006, 02:50
I have twice...and both times it was a cop. I've done some stupid things. One was for breaking an entry, and the other time I was out past curfew in which I tried to run but I didn't know there were two of them sneaky bastards.
Curfew? Where do you live?
When I got shot, it was numbness at first and I was lying there for several minutes after they drove off before the white-hot pain started. Then I got up and called an ambulance. By the time it arrived, it didn't hurt as much, or maybe I'd just gotten used to it. I dunno. I think they probably meant to kill me, cause they put the gun under my jaw. The bullet just passed through my mouth and went out my cheek, though, missing my brain entirely.
I'm sorry, but that sounds too horrible to believe. Either I've lived a very sheltered life, or you're a complete liar. A good liar, though...
Zarathoft
15-05-2006, 03:07
Curfew? Where do you live?
North Dakota, U.S.A.