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[Edit 2, since no-one seems to have a clue what this thread is saying :headbang: ]
OK. Let's get some historical precedent here.
A while back, a site called "thespark.com" had something called "The Gender Test" that would try to predict your gender by asking a series of questions.
I am doing a similar thing - but with just one question.

In the poll, answer what you think is right and what your RL (real-life) gender is - for the scenario you are acting as a man (maybe I should have made it unisex so that people would answer as themselves but too late).

*sigh* Get it yet?

Liking sports, drinking beer and being brave are all supposedly manly, but I say they are very poor criteria.

Here is the criterion you need:

Scenario: You have walked into public toilets. You see a friend. Under what circumstances may you talk to them?

[poll coming]

[edit]I meant best way using only a question or question(s) over the internet

I hope this edit doesnt mess up the poll.

Stalltalk is a completely valid form of communication.

Best test for being a MAN?

look between your legs, if you don't have anything hanging down in front, then you're not a man. :D
[awaiting poll]

Liking sports, drinking beer and being brave are all supposedly manly, but I say they are very poor criteria.

Here is the criterion you need:

Scenario: You have walked into public toilets. You see a friend. Under what circumstances may you talk to them?

[poll coming]

I was gonna say a karyotype but....none?

Best test for being a MAN?

look between your legs, if you don't have anything hanging down in front, then you're not a man. :D
[awaiting poll]

What if you're too fat to see it?

What if you're too fat to see it?
Then get a hand-mirror. Sheesh, resourcefulness, people - resourcefulness.

Stalltalk is a completely valid form of communication.

You have walked into public toilets.

Best test for being a MAN?

look between your legs, if you don't have anything hanging down in front, then you're not a man. :D
[awaiting poll]

I meant a way you can test over teh intarwebs.

Best test for being male would be the testes test..

Anyway, don't talk to me when I'm in the toilet, or I'll have to kill you at the earliest convenient moment (i.e. when I get out).

I meant a way you can test over teh intarwebs.
OMtehGz0rx!!!1!11!!1

BEE TAH M0Rz Cl3Z0rZ!

I meant a way you can test over teh intarwebs.You can't reliably test whether someone is male over the internet.
Not unless you apply a webcam.

I meant a way you can test over teh intarwebs.
you use the web while on the toilet?!? :eek:

Gee and I though me having a TV in my bathroom was bad...

What is the concept of being a man really?!

It is basically saying: how stereo typical adult male are you? Those criterion you first mentioned embody that more than anything else.

Use a MANOMETER, that always works.

OMtehGz0rx!!!1!11!!1

BEE TAH M0Rz Cl3Z0rZ!
Please report your spam to moderation, I can't be bothered.

It is basically saying: how stereo typical adult male are you? Those criterion you first mentioned embody that more than anything else.
That's why I said they were bad criteria!

One shouldn't talk to a fellow in a public convience even if you know the chap , the fellkow should understand perrhaps just a quick doff of the hat if the both of you are entering and leaving at the same time

Please report your spam to moderation, I can't be bothered.

Then be more clear in your question. There are no bathrooms, stalls, or shit lined toilets on the internet.

ahh yes. although there arent all that many women masquerading as men online.

i devised a test for the chat program i was in where id as the "girl" what kind of tampon she uses. few males can answer that question to a womans satisfaction on the spur of the moment.

id say "never" but i assume that its OK to talk once you are both washing your hands at the sink.

As long as you're looking straight ahead.

I've only talked to people on the toilet when they spoke to me first.

Best test of being a man?

Well, there are a couple... first, look for a penis. Second, a quick DNA test. But failing all that (and in consideration of the transgendered) one might better simply ask "Are you a man?"

As to the bathroom thing, I am a woman, and don't often find myself in the men's room.

Then be more clear in your question. There are no bathrooms, stalls, or shit lined toilets on the internet.Although there is a lot of crap..

Although there is a lot of crap..

True True. Although the crap on the internet is much...crappier... than crap in REAL LIFE.

I will only talk to someone while they are using the bathroom under two pretenses:

1) I am drunk.

2) They are a friend and I say something for the sake of irony.

Otherwise, it is only while meeting going in and out or while washing hands.

I'd say never. Your occupied with more immediate concerns. Before and after you enter the room yes, never inside.

And of course you must respect the empty urinal rule. Never must two guys stand in side-by-side urinals if there is any other option. Hell even if there ain't.

ahh yes. although there arent all that many women masquerading as men online.
Obviously the test is no use if you lie. This is just a bit of fun, like the "Gender Test" they used to have on thespark.com or an answer to that thread Eutrusca posted ages ago about the criteria of manliness.

id say "never" but i assume that its OK to talk once you are both washing your hands at the sink.
Hahahaha!

OK, gotta go edit the first post again to try to make people understand, grumble. This was supposed to be a light-hearted topic, but people are making it such work.

How does talking to an aquaintance in/on the toilet make you less of a man? It doesn't, in my opinion.

The concept of being a true man is no different than that of being a true women, if those stereotypical criteria don't apply (and whether or not you have a penis). For I don't see why a camp male is less of a man than a non camp man.

How does talking to an aquaintance in/on the toilet make you less of a man? It doesn't, in my opinion.

The concept of being a true man is no different than that of being a true women, if those stereotypical criteria don't apply (and whether or not you have a penis). For I don't see why a camp male is less of a man than a non camp man.
Where did I say anything about campness? You can talk to your friend in the least camp voice in the world and it would still be wrong.

My thread is being hijacked by serious discussion :eek:

As to the bathroom thing, I am a woman, and don't often find myself in the men's room.

Just as well, the toilets are filthy, urinals would probably be challenging and no real man would talk to you in there anyway.

I decided that if it would save a life I might converse in there. Also I might bellow "get out of the waaay" before actually entering a public lavatory if I had a bad case of Montezumas revenge and was barely holding back the tide.

So tempting to spam my own thread. No-one understood what it was about or anything. And what's up with the votes? I can tell you from experience, men do not talk to friends in the toilets "any time". Occasionally, you can hear one moron who seems not to know the rules, but that's rare.

The best "Man" test.

1. Do you have a penis?

How does talking to an aquaintance in/on the toilet make you less of a man? It doesn't, in my opinion.

The concept of being a true man is no different than that of being a true women, if those stereotypical criteria don't apply (and whether or not you have a penis). For I don't see why a camp male is less of a man than a non camp man.


Being unable to see a difference doesnt mean there is no difference.

Congratulations on being blind to the differences between camp men non camp men true men and true women. These days that is very commendable I suppose. Probably also opens up dating options for you as well.

The best "Man" test.

1. Do you have a penis?

The best "Intelligence" test.

Can you read the first post before replying?

Being unable to see a difference doesnt mean there is no difference.

Congratulations on being blind to the differences between camp men non camp men true men and true women. These days that is very commendable I suppose. Probably also opens up dating options for you as well.

What I was getting at was that being a real women is no less than being a real man, but I see now that is not relevant to this thread / I am taking it too seriously and in the wrong direction. My bad, I realise/conceed that yes, there are defining features the are unique to men / women.

Any time. Pissing and talking is not advanced multitasking.

Obviously the test is no use if you lie. This is just a bit of fun, like the "Gender Test" they used to have on thespark.com or an answer to that thread Eutrusca posted ages ago about the criteria of manliness.


Hahahaha!

OK, gotta go edit the first post again to try to make people understand, grumble. This was supposed to be a light-hearted topic, but people are making it such work.
gee i thought that i did answer your question in the mode you wanted.

did you laugh because no man washes his hands?

The only thing I learned from the poll is that only guys are worried about whether to talk or not in public restrooms. Why is that?

As for women:

First of all, if you're in a women's restroom, you're not going to see each other with your panties down because we've got stalls. So there's no difficulty about where to look.

Second, maybe I was raised by wolves in NYC, but it's been my experience that women chat in the bathroom all the time. Certainly with friends -- I've kept up active conversations while we were both peeing, each in our separate stalls. And sometimes we even chat with strangers, if something comes up that's worth comment, like begging a spare tampon or complimenting a good manicure or something.

i find it socially acceptable to have "sword" fights with your urine stream

its fun

Give out your credit card information or your drivers license #. I'm sure resourceful people will be able to figure out your gender.

-snip-

that may be true, but if there is one thing i realized when away at a place where guys had to take showers with other guys and females had to take showers with other girls is that a guy is more open to that concept then females are.

the females in the group waited and took their showrs 1 by 1 and made the guys who were ready in 15 minutes wait for 3 hours untill they were ready

and even then some wore bathing suits in the shower

Damnit, I wanted to answer "OMG Monkeys", but I thought I should say what I would actually do, ie. I am a rl female, and I would only talk if they weren't in a stall. :p

that may be true, but if there is one thing i realized when away at a place where guys had to take showers with other guys and females had to take showers with other girls is that a guy is more open to that concept then females are.

the females in the group waited and took their showrs 1 by 1 and made the guys who were ready in 15 minutes wait for 3 hours untill they were ready

and even then some wore bathing suits in the shower
There's two reasons for that:

1) Women are used to having privacy because we're not normally made to drop our pants in a common room to pee; and

2) Women are vicious bitches who make horrible remarks about each other's thighs.

EDIT: About those bathing suits -- where were these showers, on a highway median? If not, I just guess some ladies are prudish to the point of paranoia.

Any time. Pissing and talking is not advanced multitasking.

Are you sure about that? :D

There's two reasons for that:

1) Women are used to having privacy because we're not normally made to drop our pants in a common room to pee; and

2) Women are vicious bitches who make horrible remarks about each other's thighs.

EDIT: About those bathing suits -- where were these showers, on a highway median? If not, I just guess some ladies are prudish to the point of paranoia.

yeah i guess if a guy ever made a comment about another guys thighs (or something in that general region) would probably just set himself up for alot worse comments being made about him

Other/WTF/This poll sucks...
The topic title doesn't help the poll or the original post

If two men are peeing they may talk
If two mean are waiting they may talk
If two men are washing their hands they may talk
If one is doing one thing and the other another they may not talk.

You can't reliably test whether someone is male over the internet.
Not unless you apply a webcam.
But they didn't say 'male', then said 'man'.

Having a penis doesn't decide if you are a man. It only decides whether you are a male or not.

Male = your sex
Man = your self-identity, most poeple base this on their sex but not all.

But they didn't say 'male', then said 'man'.According to the dictionary both terms may be used to refer to the same thing. Let's leave it at that.

And then theres the chromosomal abnormablities, that mean you have the equipment but not the hormones...