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with all this talk about wars and weither or not the general public has an unrealistic view about them... I thought of this query.

Suppose the leaders of each nation, UN member as well as Non UN Member came to you to create a new system that would abolish tradtional warfare. no more soldiers being sent out to die, no more weapons of any sort.

what system would you come up with?

For instance,

Bill Cosby once pondered, what if every war was determined by a Coin Toss...

the Movie Robojox and countries resolving War Starting Disputes in an arena similar to Single Gladitorial Combat.

the anime series Duel had the enemy announcing where and when they will invade so that the defenders can evacuate the local populace and battle would commence with specialzed units until one side conceeds or serious injury occurs.

Star Trek:TOS had an episode where battles were waged within computers and casualties would then report to "extermination centers"

what replacement to large battlefields and harmfull weapons would you come up with, or would you keep the current state of Warfare?

When two nations go to war. Their leaders should fight it instead of the people. There would be no more wars! It would be funny to see Bush and Saddam fighting each other. Not like any of the world leaders would want to do any fighting themselves. It would ensure peace.

Keep current warfare, but arm soldiers with lemon meringue pie and replace bombs with jello.

When two nations go to war. Their leaders should fight it instead of the people. There would be no more wars! It would be funny to see Bush and Saddam fighting each other. Not like any of the world leaders would want to do any fighting themselves. It would ensure peace.
ahh.. but traditional fighting or perhaps boxing or wrestling... in mud... or jello...

ugh... better wait till we get some decent looking leaders then.

The leaders of the countries involved play a game of Worms. The Geneva convention can dictate the rules.

I know! Instead of war, let's have peace.

I know! Instead of war, let's have peace.
but how would international disputes be settled?

but how would international disputes be settled?

Politicians would have to discuss things and come to a compromise.

Decrease government's power. The less they control, the less they have to get in a dispute over.

Politicians would have to discuss things and come to a compromise.
and when compromise cannot be reached?

in other words, while peace would be desireable, war sometimes is inevitable, when that time comes, how would you wage "war." Pies at 10 paces? first TKO (Technical Knock Out?), who can spam the other first? how?

but how would international disputes be settled?

Two man sack races on consecutive Sundays until the winner is crowned.

and when compromise cannot be reached?

Then other politicians are brought in, perhaps firing the existing ones for being unable to do their job.

in other words, while peace would be desireable, war sometimes is inevitable,

Well, if war is inevitable, then there is inevitably no 'alternative' to war.

Football. Each country has a football team. Which ever team wins the game wins the war.

Drinking contest, arm wrestling(both of these between leaders), or armies equipped with high tech laser tag guns.

Replace the guns with paintball guns :D

Network Quake. each side sends in a squad in a deathmatch and last man standing wins.

and all this will take place on neutral territory and hardware must be equal.

NSGen. The leaders of the countries debate the issue on General until they can't take any more.

NSGen. The leaders of the countries debate the issue on General until they can't take any more.
Ohh... the mods would have a feild day with that... :D

Saddam: 3-Day Forumban for Treatening
Bin Lauden: 3-Day Forumban for Multiple attempts to hijack this thread
GW Bush: Unofficial Warning: get spellchecker your posts are too hard to read.

Ohh... the mods would have a feild day with that... :D

Saddam: 3-Day Forumban for Treatening
Bin Lauden: 3-Day Forumban for Multiple attempts to hijack this thread
GW Bush: Unofficial Warning: get spellchecker your posts are too hard to read.
I think that the fact that people have such difficulty being civil towards those of different opinions here makes all the wars in the world less surprising occurrences.

I think that the fact that people have such difficulty being civil towards those of different opinions here makes all the wars in the world less surprising occurrences.
I agree with that senitment. once the blood gets boiling on some issues... control is lost.

The Olympics.

These suggestions are all well and good, but none of them are realistic. Unless you seriously want to try and convince every single human being on the face of this planet and then have them convince their children of it, and their children, and THEIR children...it just doesn't work.

These suggestions are all well and good, but none of them are realistic. Unless you seriously want to try and convince every single human being on the face of this planet and then have them convince their children of it, and their children, and THEIR children...it just doesn't work.
Meh. People say that all of the time. I will admit however that this would be harder to push through than freedom of religion, good personal hygine and that the world is - in fact - round to the average European Medieval folk.

These suggestions are all well and good, but none of them are realistic. Unless you seriously want to try and convince every single human being on the face of this planet and then have them convince their children of it, and their children, and THEIR children...it just doesn't work.
alot of dreams are unrealistic to start with. and alot of things acceptable nowdays needed time to be planted into the minds of people.

Alternative Fuels
Alternative Music
Alternative Medicines
why not an Alternative to War?

Alternative Fuels
Alternative Music
Alternative Medicines
why not an Alternative to War?
Alternative methods of warfare is more analagous. And is something that actually happens.

alot of dreams are unrealistic to start with. and alot of things acceptable nowdays needed time to be planted into the minds of people.

Alternative Fuels
Alternative Music
Alternative Medicines
why not an Alternative to War?
It goes against our instinctual nature, which does still rule us to an extent. It is our nature to lash out, to react with violence. They say that hate, cruelty, violence, and all that jazz is inhuman...no, it's kindness and ITS relatives that are inhuman.

It goes against our instinctual nature, which does still rule us to an extent. It is our nature to lash out, to react with violence. They say that hate, cruelty, violence, and all that jazz is inhuman...no, it's kindness and ITS relatives that are inhuman.
but we also channel that violence into other areas like sports and music. thus can that violence be rechanneled into an activity that also be used to replace war.

like say... Football. or paitball.. you can still be agressive but minimize the loss of life.

War is a fact of life and will never go away. If, however, some sport were to (hypothetically) replace it, that sport would probably be hockey.

Oh, and alternative medicine is crap.

Alternative methods of warfare is more analagous. And is something that actually happens.
which is why I did not say methods of war, but the actual fighting and killing that is part of war.

These suggestions are all well and good, but none of them are realistic. Unless you seriously want to try and convince every single human being on the face of this planet and then have them convince their children of it, and their children, and THEIR children...it just doesn't work.

Hey, somehow somebody managed to convince almost every single humnan being on the face of this planet that the ultimate way of solving disagreements is by hitting each other with blunt instruments or ramming them with sharpened sticks. If they can pull off that trick, then we should be able to pull off this one.

but we also channel that violence into other areas like sports and music. thus can that violence be rechanneled into an activity that also be used to replace war.

like say... Football. or paitball.. you can still be agressive but minimize the loss of life.
I won't argue against that. But can you really, truly convince the entire world to follow this? I don't think you can.

I won't argue against that. But can you really, truly convince the entire world to follow this? I don't think you can.
one can always try.

and whomever succeeds will probably get a Nobel Peace Prize. :D

one can always try.

and whomever succeeds will probably get a Nobel Peace Prize. :D
Aye. Good luck with that, if you yourself attempt it. I wish you luck in that endeavor. I would love for it to happen, for there to be no more real war. I'm just not certain it's possible.