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Guns are boring

Insensate Minds II
13-05-2006, 13:17
Is anyone else sick and tired of seeing guns in films? With all the close-up shots and slow motion scenes of people blasting away. Why glamorize such an evil piece of technology?

And if the film is set before guns were invented they normaly replace it with some kind of fictional fast fireing crossbow or something stupid like that. Whatever happened to script writing?
Kanabia
13-05-2006, 13:18
Yeah, there's not enough movies with katanas.Ugh.
Bodies Without Organs
13-05-2006, 13:22
Yeah, there's not enough movies with katanas.Ugh.

Or trenchcoats. Or vampires wearing fetish gear.
Neuvo Rica
13-05-2006, 13:25
Or Comedy Anvils
Intestinal fluids
13-05-2006, 13:26
Why glamorize such an evil piece of technology?



Zip up your fly..your agenda is showing. A piece of forged metal isnt evil unless your name is Stephen King.
Ifreann
13-05-2006, 13:27
Or trenchcoats. Or vampires wearing fetish gear.
There needs to be a film where people use trenchcoats as weapons somehow.
You just aren't looking hard enough
Brains in Tanks
13-05-2006, 13:31
A piece of forged metal isnt evil unless your name is Stephen King.

Well yes, I can't really argue with that. But if did set out to rate pieces of metal on how evil they were, I I'd say a handgun was more evil than a biscuit tin. Unless of course we were talking about the necrobiscuitinicom.
Jeruselem
13-05-2006, 13:34
We need more movies with lots of sharp pointy sticks!
Questers
13-05-2006, 13:38
No, I like my guns. For example, Matrix Reloaded had huge melee fight scenes. BORING. I don't give a crap about punching and stuff. I want to see gunfights, damnit!
Intestinal fluids
13-05-2006, 13:38
Well yes, I can't really argue with that. But if did set out to rate pieces of metal on how evil they were, I I'd say a handgun was more evil than a biscuit tin.

Wewll if we are going to run around rating deadly metals then why not rant about excessive showings of cars in movies. I guarentee MANY more are killed annualy in US by automobiles then by guns. Not only by collisions but look at the secondary damage cars do. Strip mining for the metals, huge amounts of enviornmental damage to create fuels, smog and pollution in the manufacturing process let alone the vehicles exhaust etc. Plus i ASSURE you there are MANY MANY MANY times more cars shown in movies then guns are. How DARE they glamorize such evil inventions.
Keruvalia
13-05-2006, 13:39
Weapons needed more in film:

10] Big Rocks
9] Cheese
8] Morning Breath
7] Hippos
6] Lowry's Seasoned Salt
5] Dog Doo on a Stick
4] :fluffle:
3] Faun Magic
2] A Mother's Love
1] Orgasmotrons
GreaterPacificNations
13-05-2006, 13:41
Is anyone else sick and tired of seeing guns in films? With all the close-up shots and slow motion scenes of people blasting away. Why glamorize such an evil piece of technology?

And if the film is set before guns were invented they normaly replace it with some kind of fictional fast fireing crossbow or something stupid like that. Whatever happened to script writing?
Yeah, mostly agree, though I love the way they did guns in 'Lord of War'. Some really slick cinemato graphy there. The scene with the AK47, when he does the little speel on it. Or the scene where the A K47is firing, and as it reload itself, in time with the hammer, you could hear the cash-register *di ngs*. Yeah, great movie...
Peisandros
13-05-2006, 13:44
What the fuck? That post.. What the.. ?


Anyway, in Face Off, the guns were awesome. Made that movie fuckin' great.
GreaterPacificNations
13-05-2006, 13:48
What the fuck? That post.. What the.. ?


Anyway, in Face Off, the guns were awesome. Made that movie fuckin' great.
My post? 
Peisandros
13-05-2006, 13:50
My post? 
Your spaces. Strange. Never seen that before on General..
Ifreann
13-05-2006, 13:50
Weapons needed more in film:

10] Big Rocks
9] Cheese
8] Morning Breath
7] Hippos
6] Lowry's Seasoned Salt
5] Dog Doo on a Stick
4] :fluffle:
3] Faun Magic
2] A Mother's Love
1] Orgasmotrons
Rocks fall. They all die.
Boonytopia
13-05-2006, 13:53
Heavy metals are very dangerous to humans, but you don't see them in movies at all. I say "more mercury in films". That's what I want anyway.
Boonytopia
13-05-2006, 13:54
Weapons needed more in film:

10] Big Rocks
9] Cheese
8] Morning Breath
7] Hippos
6] Lowry's Seasoned Salt
5] Dog Doo on a Stick
4] :fluffle:
3] Faun Magic
2] A Mother's Love
1] Orgasmotrons

Dog shit on a stick is good too.
Ifreann
13-05-2006, 13:54
Heavy metals are very dangerous to humans, but you don't see them in movies at all. I say "more mercury in films". That's what I want anyway.
And obesity kills loads of people. Why don't people fight each other with obesity?
Boonytopia
13-05-2006, 13:57
And obesity kills loads of people. Why don't people fight each other with obesity?

Or heart disease? Really, there are lots of deadly weapons that have been grossly under-represented. Hollywood, hang your collective heads in shame.
GreaterPacificNations
13-05-2006, 13:58
Your spaces. Strange. Never seen that before on General..
But you can read it? Good。 My Chinese input is doing weird things with the english function。 Maybe i f I change back to。。。English everything will be fine! :D
Thursays Child
13-05-2006, 13:59
Windows. Defenestration is a pretty mean way to go, especially if still conscious. Not to mention the possibility of bystander deaths.
Independent Browncoats
13-05-2006, 14:00
Could someone explain how an inanimate object is evil?



I call bullshit on the original post.
Murlac
13-05-2006, 14:01
sorry to put this closer to topic, but...

essentially most films are about drama, and a main provider of drama in any medium of storytelling is conflict. guns are merely an extension of conflict and a means to solve it. whilst their are a vast amount of films out there with focuses on "combative" conflict (particularly summer blockbusters) there are also huge quantities of films where guns dont even come in to it, conflicts of emotions and relationships, but these are often also present in "gun films", lord of war for instance, is not really a tale about guns, its a tale about morality, and its a stunning film that drives a message home.

to finish, as in the fifties the films that most demonstrated societies concerns were the "B" movies with their metaphorical tales of communism and nuclear war being solved via the heroic application of science and other such things, modern films may well be expressing a fear of violence and crime that people often feel the law is helpless against, how many films have the "hero" approach the law only to be denied a solution to his problem? the violence a hero uses may well be a demonstration of societies frustrations at crumbling legal and governmental systems.

Darkside
Peisandros
13-05-2006, 14:05
But you can read it? Good。 My Chinese input is doing weird things with the english function。 Maybe i f I change back to。。。English everything will be fine! :D
Lol.. It's all good-just strange.

Oh, and I don't think guns are boring just yet. Probably will be soon though.
Keruvalia
13-05-2006, 14:07
Could someone explain how an inanimate object is evil?


Henry Kissinger.
Ifreann
13-05-2006, 14:22
Windows. Defenestration is a pretty mean way to go, especially if still conscious. Not to mention the possibility of bystander deaths.
But people go through windows all the time in Hollywood. I say windows should start jumping onto people in movies.
Brains in Tanks
13-05-2006, 14:29
Could someone explain how an inanimate object is evil?

Can you explain how an animate object can be evil? Was Hitler evil, or did he just perform evil acts?

Maybe this should be a thread of its own - When I'm able to discuss the difference coherently.
Gravlen
13-05-2006, 14:37
Is anyone else sick and tired of seeing guns in films? With all the close-up shots and slow motion scenes of people blasting away. Why glamorize such an evil piece of technology?

And if the film is set before guns were invented they normaly replace it with some kind of fictional fast fireing crossbow or something stupid like that. Whatever happened to script writing?
I don't agree and I agree.

Close-up, slow-motion, bullet-dodge etc. can be cool if done the right way. (Replacement killers, Face Off, and Equilibrium :cool: for example )

But you're right, what the hell were they thinking in Van Helsing? An automatic crossbow firing 40,000 bolts per second!? God, that movie sucked! :mad:
Skibereen
13-05-2006, 14:59
Weapons needed more in film:

8] Morning Breath



That is just wrong, to popularize the use such cruel and EFFECTIVE weapon.
Keruvalia
13-05-2006, 15:05
That is just wrong, to popularize the use such cruel and EFFECTIVE weapon.

Damn the Geneva Convention!
Tonoria
13-05-2006, 15:06
As a martial artist, I wholeaheartedly agree. We need more movies with manrikigusaris (often called Ninja Chains, or "Gogo Chains"). Or even better, tonfas.
Drunk commies deleted
13-05-2006, 15:16
The screenwriters need to get really creative and use imaginitive weapons like swords that magically shoot out bears armed with swords that shoot out chuck norris. Now that would be a kick-ass weapon.
Kzord
13-05-2006, 15:33
You know what really makes watching a movie enjoyable? Only watching the kind you like and ignoring the rest. I, for example, rather than complaining about movies intended for teenage girls, simply don't watch them. A similar technique could be used if you don't like films with gun fights.
Kzord
13-05-2006, 15:38
The screenwriters need to get really creative and use imaginitive weapons like swords that magically shoot out bears armed with swords that shoot out chuck norris. Now that would be a kick-ass weapon.

"Then the pirate got out his musket. Well, it was actually more of a laser. Well, a laser sword, with guns on it, that shot other swords."
Bolol
13-05-2006, 15:44
I wouldn't call this (http://users.adelphia.net/~mansonmurders/wpe20.jpg) boring.
Somearea
13-05-2006, 15:55
Why glamorize such an evil piece of technology?

It's evil I tell you, EVIL! :eek:

An inanimate object doesn't have goodness or evilness. :rolleyes:

Guns are bad...drugs are bad...SUVs are bad...blah blah blah...Fooking moralizers... :(
INO Valley
13-05-2006, 16:10
evil piece of technology?
I'd like you to think long and hard about what an incredibly stupid thing you just said.
Ifreann
13-05-2006, 16:16
I wouldn't call this (http://users.adelphia.net/~mansonmurders/wpe20.jpg) boring.
I would.
Santa Barbara
13-05-2006, 16:48
Wewll if we are going to run around rating deadly metals then why not rant about excessive showings of cars in movies. I guarentee MANY more are killed annualy in US by automobiles then by guns. Not only by collisions but look at the secondary damage cars do. Strip mining for the metals, huge amounts of enviornmental damage to create fuels, smog and pollution in the manufacturing process let alone the vehicles exhaust etc. Plus i ASSURE you there are MANY MANY MANY times more cars shown in movies then guns are. How DARE they glamorize such evil inventions.

Yea brothers. Technology is Satan's whore!

Let us return to the moral days of Amish filmmaking!
Bodies Without Organs
13-05-2006, 18:20
guns are merely an extension of conflict and a means to solve it.

When was the last time a gun solved a conflict?
Kellarly
13-05-2006, 18:22
Yeah, there's not enough movies with katanas.Ugh.

Screw Katanas, they're over rated.

And here come the Katana fan boys talking about how they can cut through lamp posts with one they bought off ebay for $50...
Kzord
13-05-2006, 18:23
When was the last time a gun solved a conflict?
Probably seconds ago. E.g. person A attacks person B. Person B shoots person A dead. Conflict over. No?
Bodies Without Organs
13-05-2006, 18:26
Probably seconds ago. E.g. person A attacks person B. Person B shoots person A dead. Conflict over. No?

Person A2 who is person A's brother vows vengeance. Conflict not over.
Ifreann
13-05-2006, 18:27
Probably seconds ago. E.g. person A attacks person B. Person B shoots person A dead. Conflict over. No?
Person A's family sue person B. Person B ends up homeless in the gutter. Now the conflict is over.
Drunk commies deleted
13-05-2006, 18:30
Come on now people, if guns didn't resolve anything why do police and soldiers have them? Hell, criminals often use guns to great effect in resolving issues. Many of the victims' bodies are disposed of and never seen again. Many of the murders are never solved. The situation that led to it, however, is resolved.
Eutrusca
13-05-2006, 18:30
"Guns are boring"

No. What's "boring" is this thread.
Kzord
13-05-2006, 18:31
Person A2 who is person A's brother vows vengeance. Conflict not over.
Yeah, cause I said that B left evidence. I also explictly mentioned that another person's attack didn't count as a separate conflict. Good job I said those things, otherwise you'd look rather silly now.
Bodies Without Organs
13-05-2006, 18:33
I also explictly mentioned that another person's attack didn't count as a separate conflict.

So, the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland, for example, were just a mass rash of separate conflicts?
Kzord
13-05-2006, 18:38
So, the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland, for example, were just a mass rash of separate conflicts?
Of course. It's not like planned attacks executed by groups and all using religious differences as a base are in any way different to a group of several unrelated muggings. It's not like the former is clearly one conflict, and the latter several.
Insensate Minds II
13-05-2006, 19:29
"Guns are boring"

No. What's "boring" is this thread.

Don't write in it then.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-05-2006, 19:50
As a martial artist, I wholeaheartedly agree. We need more movies with manrikigusaris (often called Ninja Chains, or "Gogo Chains"). Or even better, tonfas.
As someone who is tired of seeing Japanese weapons spewed hell all over the place in movies that are Euro-American in almost every other respect (yeah, that's right Matrix Trilogy and Kill Bill: fuck you), I'd rather see a come back on the part of whips.
Can we not all agree that Indiana Jones was fucking awesome? I think we can, and we can bring whips out of my bedroom and back into the movie theatre.
Dinaverg
13-05-2006, 20:05
The screenwriters need to get really creative and use imaginitive weapons like swords that magically shoot out bears armed with swords that shoot out chuck norris. Now that would be a kick-ass weapon.

Speaking of, behold the awesome-ness of www.stanford.edu/~scodary/tkam

In fact, I think Kzord has the right idea. :D
Kzord
13-05-2006, 20:09
Speaking of behold the awesome-ness of www.stanford.edu/~scodary/tkam

In fact, I think Kzord has the right idea. :D

Speaking of flash animations involving battles: http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/showdown
JuNii
13-05-2006, 20:20
Weapons needed more in film:
4] :fluffle:

oh yeah.. I can imagine that dialoge...

"ok, we'll enter the bank waiving our :fluffle: around so that they'll know we mean busniess"
"What about the cops?"
"what, we got better :fluffle: then they do... and if push comes to shove, we grab a girl and hold her hostage with our :fluffle: "
"Don't forget to take the Guard's :fluffle: , don't want him being a hero now, do we."
JuNii
13-05-2006, 20:23
"Guns are boring"

No. What's "boring" is this thread.
but they are boring. after all, they just sit there. doing nothing.

now when you add the idiot attachment... then it gets amusing, dangerous but amusing.

the Skilled hand attachment is exciting and very much fun to watch.

of course, that's assuming that the gun also has the 'Bullet' assessories as well.

but by itself, yes, guns are very, very boring.
Dinaverg
13-05-2006, 20:24
oh yeah.. I can imagine that dialoge...

"ok, we'll enter the bank waiving our :fluffle: around so that they'll know we mean busniess"
"What about the cops?"
"what, we got better :fluffle: then they do... and if push comes to shove, we grab a girl and hold her hostage with our :fluffle: "
"Don't forget to take the Guard's :fluffle: , don't want him being a hero now, do we."

Hmmm....That sounds familiar...:p



P.S. Maybe porn like that?