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Why is it that most personal ads, the girl is seeking a "professional" male? #1, what is a professional? Someone who works at a profession makes sense to me. But what they really mean is white collar work like management, doctor, lawyer, ect.

Why all the appeal for white collar? Whats wrong with people who do skilled trades? Dont like driving your car, living in your condo, with its running water and working electricty?

Am I not good relationship material on the sole basis that I'm in the armed forces and a security guard? The fact I protect people for a (alibeit low) wage makes me no good?

I just dont get it, what is the huge appeal of the white collar worker? I'v nothing against them either, but I dont see them as being better the blue collar or any other facet of the world of work. I'd glady date a white collar female as fast as one whos in skilled trades, as fast as ones who a paratrooper in 3rd bat of PPCLI. So long as I liked her on a personal and emotional level.

Why is it that most personal ads, the girl is seeking a "professional" male? #1, what is a professional? Someone who works at a profession makes sense to me. But what they really mean is white collar work like management, doctor, lawyer, ect.

Why all the appeal for white collar? Whats wrong with people who do skilled trades? Dont like driving your car, living in your condo, with its running water and working electricty?

Am I not good relationship material on the sole basis that I'm in the armed forces and a security guard? The fact I protect people for a (alibeit low) wage makes me no good?Basically, in their minds, yes. Also, you're perhaps more likely to work more hours, which means you'd spend fewer hours together.

Money. And there's nothing wrong with that. Women have an innate attraction to males that they think can take care of them and their offspring. It's just the way they're built. Kinda like how we always want them to have a nice ass.

Money. And there's nothing wrong with that. Women have an innate attraction to males that they think can take care of them and their offspring. It's just the way they're built. Kinda like how we always want them to have a nice ass.

But they always want us to have a nice ass too. They're just heaping on all sorts of extra prerequisites for no real reason. And it's nothing to do with offspring. Women are very capable of ignoring the biological urge to take care of offspring.

But they always want us to have a nice ass too. They're just heaping on all sorts of extra prerequisites for no real reason. And it's nothing to do with offspring. Women are very capable of ignoring the biological urge to take care of offspring.True, but you have to admit that men are far more appearance-centered than women are.

True, but you have to admit that men are far more appearance-centered than women are.

But women are far more picky about the fashion style that men choose to dress in then what men are about women.

True, but you have to admit that men are far more appearance-centered than women are.

I disagree with that stereotype.

I guess there is a certain appeal behind being able to truthfully say "don't worry ma'am, I'm a professional!".

But women are far more picky about the fashion style that men choose to dress in then what men are about women.But women are expected to wear make-up.

I disagree with that stereotype.It may not apply to you, but it does apply to men in general.

I disagree with that stereotype.

I don't. There's sound biological reasons for it. Still, women still do care. (Trust me, I'm a single teenager-I've got an intense interest in what women care about.)
But in response to Psychotic Dan: I agree that it's about the money. The perception is that people working with their hands make less than those working with their minds.

It may not apply to you, but it does apply to men in general.

No, it doesn't apply to *women* in general.

Women are just as attracted to attractiveness as men are.

True, but you have to admit that men are far more appearance-centered than women are.
Hardly. Guys have far lower aesthetic standards than girls. Half the girls in any given bar only have to ask to get laid. The reverse is not true.

I think the "professional" is a very loose requirement - it basically means the guy has to be employed and holding down a steady job. I doubt it really matters whether he's an R&D hotshot with a higher degree or a guy who does roof tiling. So long as he has a strong work ethic.

Of course, then come the complaints that his working hours are too long, etc. :rolleyes:

People who take out personal ads are clearly desperate(why else would they basically beg total strangers to go out with them?), so why do they ask for perfect people? Silliness really.

But they always want us to have a nice ass too. They're just heaping on all sorts of extra prerequisites for no real reason. And it's nothing to do with offspring. Women are very capable of ignoring the biological urge to take care of offspring.
There are easily testable and visible trends in what women like.

Fact: men and women that are very attractive tend to date men and women that are very attractive. This isn't without exception, but Angelina's with Brad.

Fact: When you're not that good looking a guy and you make middle class wages the likelyhood that you're gonna get some hot ass wife is slim to none. On teh other hand, if you're not very good looking and you make $500,000/year, you'll probably do alright.

That's just the way it is. Fortunately, I'm really hot and the chicks dig me. I also make good money though I'm not rich. :)

I also have a really nice penis and the women really like it! :)

I don't. There's sound biological reasons for it. Still, women still do care. (Trust me, I'm a single teenager-I've got an intense interest in what women care about.)
But in response to Psychotic Dan: I agree that it's about the money. The perception is that people working with their hands make less than those working with their minds.
It's not a perception, it's true. For the most part, if you're working with your education or knowledge you make more than if you are working with your hands.

There are easily testable and visible trends in what women like.

Fact: men and women that are very attractive tend to date men and women that are very attractive. This isn't without exception, but Angelina's with Brad.

Fact: When you're not that good looking a guy and you make middle class wages the likelyhood that you're gonna get some hot ass wife is slim to none. On teh other hand, if you're not very good looking and you make $500,000/year, you'll probably do alright.

True, but then you're talking about marriage and wives and all that. I'm talking sex! Women will be sexually attracted to those they consider good looking. Salary in such a case is irrelevant, an unknown most of the time.

Fortunately, I'm really hot and the chicks dig me. I also make good money though I'm not rich. :)

I also have a really nice penis and the women really like it! :)

Please, man. Put that away. There are children present!

People who take out personal ads are clearly desperate(why else would they basically beg total strangers to go out with them?), so why do they ask for perfect people? Silliness really.
It's not necessarily desperation. In today's world it is hard to ever meet people that you can date. There are rules at most jobs against dating people that you work with and when you're out of shcool your social scene shrinks a lot. I have never met anyone online, but I am lucky to work in the industry I do because I come into contact with people all the time. I have friends, though, that don't.

True, but then you're talking about marriage and wives and all that. I'm talking sex! Women will be sexually attracted to those they consider good looking. Salary in such a case is irrelevant, an unknown most of the time.That's true, but knowing you can take care of yourself and all that makes you more attractive to women even in that scenario. I'm absolutely sure that Brad Pitt, though he probably did get laid, didn't do nearly as well dressed as a chicken outside the chicken restaurant he used to have to advertise for before he became a star than he does now. I mean, now he's getting Angelina Jolie pregnant. Who wouldn't volunteer for that job?



Please, man. Put that away. There are children present!
Sorry. :( I's my favorite part of me, though. :(

take care of your self in what way? Tradesmen have enough money to live, and can take care of them selves in a physical way, they can fix their own stuff.

I can take care of my self too. I make enough to live on, and I also know how to take care of my self when it comes to more serious threats...

Hell, its me and my co-workers who keep all the white collars and the giorls who lov them safe (be it us soliders who keep them from having to wear to viels and burqa's or us security guards and law enforcement who come to your aid when 4 thugs ask you for your wallet and car keys)

Why is it that most personal ads, the girl is seeking a "professional" male? #1, what is a professional? Someone who works at a profession makes sense to me. But what they really mean is white collar work like management, doctor, lawyer, ect.

Why all the appeal for white collar? Whats wrong with people who do skilled trades? Dont like driving your car, living in your condo, with its running water and working electricty?

Am I not good relationship material on the sole basis that I'm in the armed forces and a security guard? The fact I protect people for a (alibeit low) wage makes me no good?

I just dont get it, what is the huge appeal of the white collar worker? I'v nothing against them either, but I dont see them as being better the blue collar or any other facet of the world of work. I'd glady date a white collar female as fast as one whos in skilled trades, as fast as ones who a paratrooper in 3rd bat of PPCLI. So long as I liked her on a personal and emotional level.


Well, it denotes a few things:

- a fair amount of education
- a fair amount of money without having to work very long hours
- better benefits
- less dangerous job, meaning they're less likely to be a young widow
- plus, it's really more of a culture/values thing than anything
- I wouldn't date somebody in the military, but that's just me

True, but then you're talking about marriage and wives and all that. I'm talking sex! Women will be sexually attracted to those they consider good looking. Salary in such a case is irrelevant, an unknown most of the time.

Why would a woman put out a personals ad for a random sexual encounter? We can get that if we just walk into a bar and ask a cute guy if he wants some sex. Personal ads are more about finding somebody to have a relationship with in general, unless they state otherwise. If a girl puts out an ad saying she just wants a casual sexual relationship, she must be pretty damned ugly.

Two points:

1. "Professional" has some meaning of which I am unaware, because it gets used in places where, to my mind, it doesn't make any sense. Like in employment agreements with standards of behaviour - "employee must project a professional image" - what the hell does that mean?

2. White collar men have soft hands. Chicks dig a gentle touch.

take care of your self in what way? Tradesmen have enough money to live, and can take care of them selves in a physical way, they can fix their own stuff.

I can take care of my self too. I make enough to live on, and I also know how to take care of my self when it comes to more serious threats...

Hell, its me and my co-workers who keep all the white collars and the giorls who lov them safe (be it us soliders who keep them from having to wear to viels and burqa's or us security guards and law enforcement who come to your aid when 4 thugs ask you for your wallet and car keys)
The more money you earn, the more capable you are of handling changing economics. If you make 6 figures and you lose your job you can, if you were smart, pay teh bills for a while while you look for a new job, for example. That's just the way it is. I used to work as a landscaper. Now I work as a video compressionist. I make twice the money and I work for a gigantic corporation that is not going anywhere in the forseeable future. I woman looking for a life partner is going to find that more attractive than a person who works as a landscaper because I'll likely always be working and I'll likely make more and more money as I move up the corporate ladder.

Of course with Peak Oil here this is all hypothetical. Who knows what the fuck kind of world we'll be living in in ten years.

Why is it that most personal ads, the girl is seeking a "professional" male? #1, what is a professional? Someone who works at a profession makes sense to me. But what they really mean is white collar work like management, doctor, lawyer, ect.

Why all the appeal for white collar? Whats wrong with people who do skilled trades? Dont like driving your car, living in your condo, with its running water and working electricty?

Am I not good relationship material on the sole basis that I'm in the armed forces and a security guard? The fact I protect people for a (alibeit low) wage makes me no good?

I just dont get it, what is the huge appeal of the white collar worker? I'v nothing against them either, but I dont see them as being better the blue collar or any other facet of the world of work. I'd glady date a white collar female as fast as one whos in skilled trades, as fast as ones who a paratrooper in 3rd bat of PPCLI. So long as I liked her on a personal and emotional level.

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Women tend to marry (and therefore date) up. It has always been that way and probably always will be. Get over it. You'll notice that men disproportionatly ask for slender women - like that has anything more to do with it.

if you are reading the personal ads looking for someone to date, stop it.

personal ads are just listings of people who want to date and have been unsuccessful in the normal course of events in finding someone to date. the ads are meaningless. its the equivalent of picking a name out of a hat.

if you are reading the personal ads for entertainment and it is depressing you, stop it.

they are poorly written by people who dont know what they want and who dont tell the truth about what they are. men want someone slender and attractive when they will in fact date any passable woman who is fit enough to get into his car by herself. women want someone honest and successful but they will go out with anyone who answers the ad and sounds pleasant on the phone. no sense getting all depressed over stupid people trying to trick other stupid people into dating them.

if you are worried that youll never get a date if you arent "professional", stop it.

is your plumber married? is your car mechanic married? is every military man old enough to be married married? YES. or they are dating, or they are between wives. sure there are some women who would never STOOP to dating a blue collar worker. so what? what would you want a woman like that for anyway? there are plenty of nice, good looking, non psychotic available women who would love to date a good man with steady employment. date those women and stop worrying about the women you dont date.

I'm not depressed, it more a question of interest. I wouldn't want to date a girl who finds the ideals of a white collar life her ideal. Its not for me. I'm too into adventure, physical exercise and other things of that nature to want to be with someone who expects me to wear white dockers and come home with them clean. ;)
Actually I think I got it figured out. Most people are dim witted and rather shallow (Tho I find the average NSer smarter and less shallow then the general population...so I bet the lot of ya will get what i mean)