NationStates Jolt Archive


Cheezy, but very interresting

B0zzy
12-05-2006, 04:33
A kick ass marine serves it up! Hoo-rah!

http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/THISWILLMAKEYOUPROUD.HTML
That's what doesn't seem to be making the evening news. Accounts of American valor are dismissed by the press as propaganda, yet accounts of American difficulties are heralded as objectivity. It makes you wonder if the role of the media is to inform, or to depress ? to report or to deride. To tell the truth, or to feed us lies.

To spare you the trouble I have already checked;
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/chontosh.asp
Santa Barbara
12-05-2006, 04:43
Is this the part where I'm supposed to get all gushy, or rant against the biased anti-American liberal media? I always forget which one is the correct military-ball-licking response.
Demented Hamsters
12-05-2006, 04:45
Christ, it that still doing the rounds?
Eut's posted that 1/2 a dozen times at least, and I think Corny has as well.
"You won't hear about this". Funny that. I've read about it dozens of times, not only in the papers but also by smug right-wingers who feel the need to go on and on about it, thinking it somehow validates the war and fulfills their paranoid delusions that the (blatant conservative-leaning) media hates them.
Demented Hamsters
12-05-2006, 04:48
Is this the part where I'm supposed to get all gushy, or rant against the biased anti-American liberal media? I always forget which one is the correct military-ball-licking response.
I think wrapping yourself in the US flag, burning the New York Times and shouting "Hoo-rah!" at bewildered passer-bys is the appropriate response.
Kyronea
12-05-2006, 04:56
Oh for the love of...

All of you quit being idiots. The media is a privately owned industry, and as such it serves to self itself, so it shows what sells. It is not "liberal" or "conservative." It just is.

Furthermore, I applaud acts of valor by our military. I am a realistic pacifist(meaning I prefer peace and will pursue it as far as possible, but will recognize when force is necessary) and have immense respect for our military, or at least most of it. I do not rail against the military as a whole when a portion of its shames itself(such as with the Abu Ghraib scandel) because that is being as idiotic as painting the media as liberal trash or what have you.

That said, we don't need to point them out every single time they occur, because of the very reaction that they tend to recieve from some rather close-minded people, as demonstrated here.
Undelia
12-05-2006, 05:00
Nationalistic, jingo bullshit written by a murderer. Nice.
Donkey Kongo
12-05-2006, 05:02
How does this make you proud? :confused: Our government has trained a person to kill other people so well that he can do this, and it's a good thing?
NERVUN
12-05-2006, 05:46
Just for fun, I ran a search on Lexis-Nexis, the news databank. There were 35 seperate TV news reports on various afilliate stations (I saw Fox, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, and PBS). There were stories from all of the major wire services (Though I admit I didn't check and see if they were used in any of the major papers), and about 8 hits that either re-printed, or re-referenced the posted article and did not actually report on the event.

Hmm... sounds like coverage to me, but then again I'm sure I suffer from liberal bias and all that.
Non Aligned States
12-05-2006, 06:51
Why are you posting up stuff that is nearly 2 years old? And even more than that, why is it trying to compare that to stuff that happened a year after that? It's like saying because Enron had such a good deal going for it's customers before the accountancy scandal that came out that Enron suffers from a lack of media coverage on it's performance.

Geez. 4th dimensional limitations people. Next we'll be seeing comparisons from Bob in 1882 for heroism and the lack of media coverage on him today....
Gravlen
12-05-2006, 12:37
So... You're trying to say that nothing noteworthy positive has happened in Iraq since march 25, 2003?


And a genuine hero.
The secretary of the Navy said so yesterday.
:rolleyes:
Non Aligned States
12-05-2006, 12:42
So... You're trying to say that nothing noteworthy positive has happened in Iraq since march 25, 2003?


Assuming this reply is meant for me, I'd say the noteworthy stuff is not about heroism anymore but rather the bit regarding rebuilding. If he did what Eut normally does which is get contemporary stuff, that'd be fine, but this is gravedigging.

If you must link about stuff regarding heroism and the lack of media coverage, which wasn't the case here and was a blatant lie (the media did cover it), at least talk about stuff that happens here and now. Not two years back.

Look at the date of the article. 2003. You're quote is meaningless.
Gravlen
12-05-2006, 13:03
Assuming this reply is meant for me, I'd say the noteworthy stuff is not about heroism anymore but rather the bit regarding rebuilding. If he did what Eut normally does which is get contemporary stuff, that'd be fine, but this is gravedigging.

If you must link about stuff regarding heroism and the lack of media coverage, which wasn't the case here and was a blatant lie (the media did cover it), at least talk about stuff that happens here and now. Not two years back.

Look at the date of the article. 2003. You're quote is meaningless.

Nah, the reply wasn't directed at you.
I agree, this is old stuff, and it has been covered in the news so this is a useless thread.