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He has gone lower than I ever thought possible--29% (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2006/05/11/bushs-approval-ratings/) approval rating.
President Bush’s job-approval rating has fallen to its lowest mark of his presidency, according to a new Harris Interactive poll. Of 1,003 U.S. adults surveyed in a telephone poll, 29% think Mr. Bush is doing an “excellent or pretty good” job as president, down from 35% in April and significantly lower than 43% in January.

Roughly one-quarter of U.S. adults say “things in the country are going in the right direction,” while 69% say “things have pretty seriously gotten off on the wrong track.” This trend has declined every month since January, when 33% said the nation was heading in the right direction. Iraq remains a key concern for the general public, as 28% of Americans said they consider Iraq to be one of the top two most important issues the government should address, up from 23% in April. The immigration debate also prompted 16% of Americans to consider it a top issue, down from 19% last month, but still sharply higher from 4% in March.
He's really threatening Nixon now. Jeez.

He's really threatening Nixon now. Jeez.

I think hes beaten Nixon. At least Nixon had the sense to resign. My real question would be why more Americans arent calling for his impeachment. I say IMPEACH BUSH NOW.

He should be at -10%, at least.

Well, he's caught up to his father now. Let's see if he can do him one worse and drop to 19%!

Cosidering that around a third of Americans are die-hard conservatives, this implies that even they're starting to depair of him.
Can't wait for the Fox propoganda machine to roll into action for damage control (like they did for poor Rummy cause he was heckled and caught out lying this week)

Cosidering that around a third of Americans are die-hard conservatives, this implies that even they're starting to depair of him.
Can't wait for the Fox propoganda machine to roll into action for damage control (like they did for poor Rummy cause he was heckled and caught out lying this week)
Yeah, I thought he'd hit a floor a couple of weeks ago.

I wonder if this latest domestic spying scandal is having an effect yet. Probably a little soon.

Who cares about ratings when your already on your way out of office and you already tricked a nation and did your damage. Why should he care hes set for life!

Wow, he’s actually dropped below congress’s approval rating.

Who cares about ratings when your already on your way out of office and you already tricked a nation and did your damage. Why should he care hes set for life!
Is this the only schtick you've got? I hope not, because it was old before you started it.

He should be at -10%, at least.
Come to think of it, I do owe some negativity.

"Oh we merry men give no thought to the depths to which we plunge, for we are merry men and have no room for such thoughts!"

...yeah, that came outta nowhere.

Anyway, I suspect his approval rating will drop to ~16% by November.

i don't know why, but pollingreport.com didn't include that poll and the Rasmussen poll that has him at 40%. It has the recent polls going as low as 31% and as high as 38%.

i don't know why, but pollingreport.com didn't include that poll and the Rasmussen poll that has him at 40%. It has the recent polls going as low as 31% and as high as 38%.
Just came out tonight for tomorrow's paper. I imagine it'll be there on their next update.

He should be at -10%, at least.

is it still the case that the margin of error on his approval from blacks means that it's possible that he's in the negative with them?

Maybe this should be a separate thread. But tonight they said he has been monitoring the phone calls of millions of Americans. Legally of course.

I'm surprised he made it this long, he seems to have tried to do every negative thing done by any other president and trump it.

29%. Just plain wow. Nice to see the proganda can't distract the people all the time.

Is it any small wonder considering this guy NEVER withdraws an appointee. I would daresay he can nominate a mad rapist and when it comes out that the appointee is a mad rapist the White House will say "We're full steam ahead on this nomination."

Talk about a guy who can never admit he's wrong about anything.

Is it any small wonder considering this guy NEVER withdraws an appointee.

Harriet Miers.

Maybe this should be a separate thread. But tonight they said he has been monitoring the phone calls of millions of Americans. Legally of course.
I was the first guy to post about that AT&T business (not that it ends there). It's not really news, unfortunately.

29%. Just plain wow. Nice to see the proganda can't distract the people all the time.
Just so there's context ....

"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." - Shrubya, at the Athena Performing Arts Center at Greece Athena Middle and High School Tuesday, May 24, 2005 in Rochester, NY

Is it any small wonder considering this guy NEVER withdraws an appointee. I would daresay he can nominate a mad rapist and when it comes out that the appointee is a mad rapist the White House will say "We're full steam ahead on this nomination."

Talk about a guy who can never admit he's wrong about anything.

The "Decider"?

I wonder if he's ever dealt with personal failure - i'm sure there's a context somewh- ah, yes ...

"I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it…I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet….I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't — you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one." —George W. Bush, after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004

People are opening their eyes. It's a beautiful thing.

So finally his approval rating is starting to match his IQ! :D

People are opening their eyes. It's a beautiful thing.
...and next comes Oedipus...

...Or you may find yourself with a quite complex complex,
And you may end up like Oedipus...

The real question is will it matter? He has already served two terms, will it affect the republicans in the next election, or will it just pass with Bush's reign?

The real question is will it matter? He has already served two terms, will it affect the republicans in the next election, or will it just pass with Bush's reign?
That taint is a stain that's sinew-deep with them.

That taint is a stain that's sinew-deep with them.

As opposed to Bush Sr., Reagan, or Nixion?

As opposed to Bush Sr., Reagan, or Nixion?
When i say "them", i mean "them".
Further, the stain doth spreadeth ever further.
Perhaps you heard yesterday's announcement by Senor SmirkingChimpf*ck that his brother "JEB" (not his real name) would be a good candidate ... :eek:
Talk about f*cking desperate. Keep the whole klan (yes i mean KLAN) from ever having to get a real job.
Just wait for Neil's comeback. :(

I still can't believe that even 1% of the population still supports this dipshit.

Wait. I can, actually, because I have to live around the people who do. Yip-dee-fucking-doo.

I always thought 30% was the asymptote of his approval rating...but it's not.

Before this goes any further, I want to know who the 30% hold-outs are.

Maybe this so-called result of 30% pro-Bush is just really good ole Corny + some hanging chads....


UPDATE. Oh, we have discovered a 1% of the population who wants Al Qaeda to win. And they are indeed happy with the great job Dubya is doing of making political and violent islam seem reasonable...

*Singing*
Let's Impeach the President...
*/singing*

I'm actually surprised he has stayed above 30% for this long. I know a signifigant number of conservatives who have gotten mad at Bush for some of his descisions, or, in the case of some of the real neo-cons... for being too liberal. I'm thinking he is going for the record of the lowest approval rating ever. Anyone know what that is?

Right now...half the country is thinking "Yah...we told you so."

Right now...half the country is thinking "Yah...we told you so."


You got that wrong. One of those odd things about the human memory - by now, at least 60% of the people would swear they always opposed the lying retarded son of a Barbara...

You got that wrong. One of those odd things about the human memory - by now, at least 60% of the people would swear they always opposed the lying retarded son of a Barbara...


Well, actually thats probably accurate, thats the thing about them dirty Republicans...they always show up to vote.
The other side.....ehh...not so much.

Well, actually thats probably accurate, thats the thing about them dirty Republicans...they always show up to vote.
The other side.....ehh...not so much.

You do realise that your average Republican is by now also affected by cognitive dissociation?

You do realise that your average Republican is by now also affected by cognitive dissociation?


If, by that, you mean "Like rats from a sinking ship", then I suppose I agree.

If, by that, you mean "Like rats from a sinking ship", then I suppose I agree.

That is exactly what I meant, my friend.
That ship is sinking faster than the Titanic.
:fluffle:
Within 10 years, no one will admitting to having supported that tosser.

That is exactly what I meant, my friend.
That ship is sinking faster than the Titanic.
:fluffle:
Within 10 years, no one will admitting to having supported that tosser.


Im hoping they install him directly in the American dictionary under :

Wanker; See: Bush, George W.

His approval rating should be lower. say, 0%

Did he beat a nun with a tyre iron? Or was it a war widow?

He has gone lower than I ever thought possible--29% (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2006/05/11/bushs-approval-ratings/) approval rating.

He's really threatening Nixon now. Jeez.
And yet, to hear the media tell it, anybody who criticizes Bush is "out of the mainstream" or "shrill" or "a Bush-hater." Anybody who objects to the war is a traitor and an America-hater. Meanwhile, Bush conservatives are the "mainstream" and represent America.

29%? That high? I smell inflated ratings.

Harriet Miers.

Didn't she withdraw her name, herself?

And yet, to hear the media tell it, anybody who criticizes Bush is "out of the mainstream" or "shrill" or "a Bush-hater." Anybody who objects to the war is a traitor and an America-hater. Meanwhile, Bush conservatives are the "mainstream" and represent America.
Yep--that's the "liberal media" for you.

It's important that we make sure that the 30% that support Bush dont make up a larger number of the small percentage that vote in this country, go and vote.

The midterm elections are going to be interesting.

I think his family is done with politics forever. This guy has destroyed the name Bush. Good riddance and sorry 'bout that Jeb.

I think his family is done with politics forever. This guy has destroyed the name Bush. Good riddance and sorry 'bout that Jeb.

You mean "A thousand points of light" didn't do that already?

To shrubs credit; I don't think people voted for him because of daddy.....

Let's hope so, Jeb was a major player in the savings and loan scandal that cost many Americans their life savings.

On CNN yesterday they had a story about how Bush jokes on late night TV have gone from 40 a month in January to over 100 a month now. They also said that the subject of the jokes was predominantly his lack of intelligence. The guy is litterally turning into a laughing stock in his own country. I really try not to be an "I told you so" kinda guy, but I just want to shake people that I argued with during the last election and say, "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!"

Let's hope so, Jeb was a major player in the savings and loan scandal that cost many Americans their life savings.

Jeb also was going to have the state troopers (or was it marshalls?) go in and take the Schiavo woman. Somebody ratted him out and a Judge stopped him at the last second.

On CNN yesterday they had a story about how Bush jokes on late night TV have gone from 40 a month in January to over 100 a month now. They also said that the subject of the jokes was predominantly his lack of intelligence. The guy is litterally turning into a laughing stock in his own country. I really try not to be an "I told you so" kinda guy, but I just want to shake people that I argued with during the last election and say, "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!"


What's interesting is that his wife is out there stumping for candidates. People still like her.....

You mean "A thousand points of light" didn't do that already?

To shrubs credit; I don't think people voted for him because of daddy.....
I think name recognition is powerful, but you're probably right in that there were a lot of other reasons people voted for him like, "he's folksy." But his father also didn't cause the kind of damage to America and the world that this Bush did. I think this guy's gonna go down as the worst president ever and the name recognition now will kill any chance of a Bush ever being elected to anything othre than a local office again.

What's interesting is that his wife is out there stumping for candidates. People still like her.....
Yeah and she's pretty stupid, too. I guess on her it's kinda "cute," though.

I think name recognition is powerful, but you're probably right in that there were a lot of other reasons people voted for him like, "he's folksy." But his father also didn't cause the kind of damage to America and the world that this Bush did. I think this guy's gonna go down as the worst president ever and the name recognition now will kill any chance of a Bush ever being elected to anything othre than a local office again.

True. Poppy Bush also understood not to stay in Iraq when there wasn't a decent plan for the peace.....

It's hard work getting so many people to hate you. Sometimes I have to interrupt my 12 month vacation to start a war. Nukular. Nukular. Sorry, I just love that word. It just rolls off the tongue: nu-kyu-lar. Like terr-rr-rrists.

For a Republican to get under a third takes real moxie!

True. Poppy Bush also understood not to stay in Iraq when there wasn't a decent plan for the peace.....
There's talk that in private his dad actually yells at him for destroying the country.

I think name recognition is powerful, but you're probably right in that there were a lot of other reasons people voted for him like, "he's folksy." But his father also didn't cause the kind of damage to America and the world that this Bush did. I think this guy's gonna go down as the worst president ever and the name recognition now will kill any chance of a Bush ever being elected to anything othre than a local office again.

Even local office would be dangerous, remember that Jeb was governor on Florida, when they "miscounted" the 200 elections.

Even local office would be dangerous, remember that Jeb was governor on Florida, when they "miscounted" the 200 elections.
That's not a local office. That's a state governorship. I think the best any Bush can get now is like, County Selectsman, or something. Maybe District Surveyor.

"Hi! I'm jeramiah Bush and I'm running to represent you as your County Auditory Selectsman! Can I count on your vote?" :)

"Aren't you that G.W. guy's nephew or something?" :mad:

Right now...half the country is thinking "Yah...we told you so."

yep, the half that voted for Bush, because as much as you might hate him he was running against Kerry, and you would want KErry in office? thats sure to be a winnning idea...

Harriet Miers.

NO, she withdrew, sent him a letter officially withdrawing herself. Try again.

yep, the half that voted for Bush, because as much as you might hate him he was running against Kerry, and you would want KErry in office? thats sure to be a winnning idea...
If you gave a retarded monkey a lobotomy it woudl do a better job than Bush. Kerry would have been an infinately better choice then Bush for no reason other than we would have had gridlock in government because the legislature would have been Republican and the Executive would have been Democratic. Gridlock would have been a much better situation to be in than to let this idot do the damage that he has done.

NO, she withdrew, sent him a letter officially withdrawing herself. Try again.
Have other US presidents recently (after, say, 1970) withdrawn any of their nomnations? Just curious...

Have other US presidents recently (after, say, 1970) withdrawn any of their nomnations? Just curious...
I'm not positive about this, but I think Reagan withdrew Bork.

I'm not positive about this, but I think Reagan withdrew Bork.
No, Bork was voted down by the full Senate.

No, Bork was voted down by the full Senate.
Oh.

In anycase, the real question here is why people who are so grossly incompetent get nominated by this moron.

yep, the half that voted for Bush, because as much as you might hate him he was running against Kerry, and you would want KErry in office? thats sure to be a winnning idea...

Well, let's see. . .

Would the Kerry administration be talking about nuking Iran right now?

Would the Kerry administration waste a year campaigning for Social Security Privatization which, wouldncha know, also doesn't do anything to make Social Security solvent?

Would the Kerry administration have retained Donald Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney?

Would the Kerry administration have put Paul Wolfowitz in charge of the World Bank?

Seriously, dude, I didn't particularly like Kerry, and to be honest, he's pretty much convinced me that the Democrats are not going to break from nominating milketoasts who have no backbone for the forseeable future. But milketoast that he is, he is not the greater of two evils. He is a guy who, at the least, would have enough respect for the concept of a Republic not to pretend that he is the law. He is a guy smart enough to realize that the solution to a losing hand in Iraq is not to double down on Iran. He is, in short, a guy smart enough to know reality when it's sodomizing his country with a proverbial plunger. That makes him better than Bush by a long, long shot.

For my part, I'm still kind of wondering just how low Bush has to go before we can say what should be obvious: ITMFA!

yep, the half that voted for Bush, because as much as you might hate him he was running against Kerry, and you would want KErry in office? thats sure to be a winnning idea...

Oh so the logic is "Anybody but Kerry" Hmm where have I heard that before?

Look how well that paid off.

We probably have an administration that will beat the Grant Administration for corruption.

NO, she withdrew, sent him a letter officially withdrawing herself. Try again.

Technically you are correct.

However, she could have been asked to do that.....

ITMFA!
:confused:

I'm not savy. :(

Seeing all this reminded me of Menkin.

"The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

:confused:

I'm not savy. :(

Impeach the M*$%@rf#*%&r Already!

Impeach the M*$%@rf#*%&r Already!
Impeach... for what?

Have other US presidents recently (after, say, 1970) withdrawn any of their nomnations? Just curious...

Recent nominations withdrawn by Presidents include:

George Herbert Walker Bush -41st President

Linda Chavez- Secretary of Labor

William Jefferson Clinton- 42nd President

Zoe Baird- Attorney General of the United States
Kimba Wood- Attorney General of the United States
Anthony Lake- Director of Central Intelligence
Lani Guanier- Department of Justice- Chief Civil Rights Division

These were all withdrawn by the President in question, not a voluntary withdrawal or request of the candidate to be withdrawn.

President Nixon had three failures on the US Supreme Court front.

Abe Fortas to Chief Justice of the United States (1969) who subsequently resigned as Associate Justice due to an irregular financial relationship and failure to disclose said relationship.

G. Harold Carswell for Associate Justice of the United States, rejected by the United States Senate as not being qualified for the post among other reasons.

Clement Haynesworth for Associate Justice of the United States, rejected by the United States Senate as unfit for the post.

Mr. Nixon also announced his intention to nominate Hershel Friday and Mildred Lillie, but they were ranked as UNQUALIFIED by the American Bar Association. He subsequently filled these posts with Harry Blackmun and William Rehnquist.

Ronald Wilson Reagan- 40th President

Douglas H. Ginsburg for Associate Justice of the United States withdrew because of marijuana use in his past and controversial view on Constitutional interpretation. (Withdrawn)

Robert H. Bork for Associate Justice of the United States was rejected by the United States Senate for extreme political views and controversial Constitutional writings (He was an Originalist).

Anthony Kennedy was successfully appointed to fill the seat Ginsburg would have taken.

Mr. Bush has never withdrawn a nominee of his own accord. In fact, his Administration ended the practice of the White House submitting judicial nominees to the ABA before announcing the intention to nominate. They also regularly ignore the ratings of the ABA when they are unfavorable, but trumpet the Well-Qualified nominees as having received the ABA's highest rating.

This list I have compiled is not exhaustive, but represent a cross section.

Recent nominations withdrawn by Presidents include:

George Herbert Walker Bush -41st President

Linda Chavez- Secretary of Labor
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That's a mistake -- Chavez was nominated by Dubya in 2001 and not by his father. Has he withdrawn the nomination of Chavez, then?

That's a mistake -- Chavez was nominated by Dubya in 2001 and not by his father. Has he withdrawn the nomination of Chavez, then?

Ms. Chavez decided to step aside after facing criticism, but I do stand corrected that she was Mr. Bush 43's nominee, not Mr. Bush 41's nominee. I also stand corrected that this was not a Presidential withdrawal, but voluntary. I should have looked deeper.

Impeach... for what?

Nixon was impeached for pretty much the same thing as the Abramoff scandal.

Everything the republicans wanted to impeach Clinton for, Bush has done as well, how many lies have we caught him in (not about sex scandals obviously)

Impeach the M*$%@rf#*%&r Already!

Why bother, he's a lame duck president. The only thing that might well reinvigorate the Republican party and his presidency is a good old impeachment scrap - which the democrats would probably lose anyway.

...

William Jefferson Clinton- 42nd President

Zoe Baird- Attorney General of the United States
Kimba Wood- Attorney General of the United States
Anthony Lake- Director of Central Intelligence
Lani Guanier- Department of Justice- Chief Civil Rights Division

These were all withdrawn by the President in question, not a voluntary withdrawal or request of the candidate to be withdrawn.

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Baird: withdraws herself:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEEDB1E30F931A15752C0A965958260&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fC%2fChild%20Care

Lake: withdraws himself
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/fedagencies/march97/letter_3-18.html

I gather that Lani Guinier was withdrawn by Clinton, and I cannot find anything regarding Wood. Still it seems that it is rare for president to admit his mistakes in nominating someone.

Why bother, he's a lame duck president. The only thing that might well reinvigorate the Republican party and his presidency is a good old impeachment scrap - which the democrats would probably lose anyway.

Well, as Republicans are fond of saying, in this society we have rules, and when you break the rules, you suffer the consequences.

If for no other reason than to set a precedent for history's sake and to stand for the integrity of the rule of law in the Republic, he should be impeached. Better that the world should perish than injustice prevail.

Well, as Republicans are fond of saying, in this society we have rules, and when you break the rules, you suffer the consequences.

If for no other reason than to set a precedent for history's sake and to stand for the integrity of the rule of law in the Republic, he should be impeached. Better that the world should perish than injustice prevail.
I would like him to be impeached because he deserves it for violating his oath of office to uphold the Constitution, but the fact is impeachment is mostly just a ceremonial wrist-slap. What I really want is him and his entire cabinet out of my frigging government, and I want to see the next president launch a full and independent investigation, and I want to see Bush, Cheney, and several others frigging arrested, tried and convicted for having broken the law of the US and international law. And then I'd like to see them all put into the general population at Attica. But that last bit is just because I really, really don't like them.

I love to see Bush's numbers collapsing. I feel vicariously vindicated by it. But I don't have confidence in Americans anymore. I'm not sure these numbers will translate to voting the bastards out and taking back Congress in November. The results of the mid-term elections will tell us more about how bad the rot is in the US than any poll numbers will.

Forget impeachment, Bush should go the way of Kennedy (im not insulting Kennedy, just using a popular situation). And if you still don't know what I'm talking about.... Kill that motherF**ker!!!!

Forget impeachment, Bush should go the way of Kennedy (im not insulting Kennedy, just using a popular situation). And if you still don't know what I'm talking about.... Kill that motherF**ker!!!!

Why? You just show your worth to be the same as his.

He is done. He will be gone and he will have a bad place in the history books.