NationStates Jolt Archive


Racism in your area?

Kyronea
12-05-2006, 03:26
I am curious as to who here has experienced racism in their local area. I experienced it indirectly earlier today. While working at Wendy's, a customer berated Afruja--an Indian(as in, India)--who was running the register, calling her a dirty Mexican(because apparently he was too stupid to realize from her complexion and name she was not Hispanic) because he couldn't understand what she said due to her accent. I immediately leapt to her defense, though that was rather unnecessary, as the manager asked him to leave the restaurant. He shouted something about illegal Mexicans and how we'd lost a customer. Well, sir, fuck you: I wouldn't want your money anyway.

So, anyone else have any similar experiences with such idiots?
Kulikovo
12-05-2006, 03:37
Yep, my school has a large hick population.
The Phalange
12-05-2006, 03:43
I have an extremely racist uncle (on my dad's side of the family) who lives about five or six hours away (thank God!). I haven't seen him in at least thirteen years, and I never interact with anyone on my dad's side of the family (dad included), so I don't think the bastard counts.

In my area, I had a friend once who admitted he was racist- and immediately ceased being my friend.

Another time, I was talking to a (now ex-)friend on the phone, complaining about my then-neighbors, who were arrested for drug use. He asked, "Were they black?" Bigot.

And in sixth grade, my arch-enemy asked if I was in a gang. I said, "No, why?" His response, "Because you hang out with so many black people."

Fucking scum! :mad:
Kyronea
12-05-2006, 03:48
I have an extremely racist uncle (on my dad's side of the family) who lives about five or six hours away (thank God!). I haven't seen him in at least thirteen years, and I never interact with anyone on my dad's side of the family (dad included), so I don't think the bastard counts.

In my area, I had a friend once who admitted he was racist- and immediately ceased being my friend.

Another time, I was talking to a (now ex-)friend on the phone, complaining about my then-neighbors, who were arrested for drug use. He asked, "Were they black?" Bigot.

And in sixth grade, my arch-enemy asked if I was in a gang. I said, "No, why?" His response, "Because you hang out with so many black people."

Fucking scum! :mad:
I know. When are people going to realize that we're all human and that race is just another cosmetic difference that doesn't matter worth a damn, like hair color? A cousin of mine married a black woman several years back. Most of my family--all of them southern U.S. relatives--were in uproar over it, which really pissed me off because it didn't make any sense. So he married a black woman; so what? Why should that matter at all? Albert EINSTEIN I can't STAND these assholes.
The Phalange
12-05-2006, 03:51
I see nothing wrong with interracial relationships. Many people I know are in such relationships; I have been in several, myself.

Race/ethnicty is totally irrelevant. I wish everyone in the world was colorblind, race-wise at least. :(
Posi
12-05-2006, 03:57
There are alot of recist joke said, but we think only one person might actually believe some of that crap.
LaLaland0
12-05-2006, 04:01
Yep, my school has a large hick population.
I'm not saying that the country-folk don't have a larger tendency towards racism, they do, but calling them hicks probably doesn't help the situation.
Kyronea
12-05-2006, 04:04
I'm not saying that the country-folk don't have a larger tendency towards racism, they do, but calling them hicks probably doesn't help the situation.
It doesn't. Unfortunately, my experience with my relatives--and their...associates...seems to almost confirm that stereotype. I am not one to give in to stereotypes. They are hateful and wrong, yet this is one that seems rather close. Of course, most likely I simply don't have enough information to analyze the situation properly, which is why I'm hesitant to actually say either way.
B0zzy
12-05-2006, 04:16
I worked at a pizza restaurant ten years ago in California where I was the only white guy - but I wasn't the minority since I don't think any two employees were from the same heritage. Most had heavy accents. I can recall one night one handed me the phone and some redneck said "Finally, someone who speaks 'Merican" I said "If you want one of those you'll have to wait - the cherokee kid is making a delivery right now" and hung up on the dick.

For the most part CA wasn't too bad. Florida is very different - it is much more prevalent but much much more subtle. I never will forget the first time a black customer asked me if I was "willing to do business with a man of color". (My answer was "The only color I care about is the color of your money- unless you're green too") That was a long time ago though. It seems to be getting better, but I still sense more - maybe it's just because I'm older and wiser than I was when I lived in CA.

I've been to many charity events in FL and notice that some are nearly all white and some are nearly all black. At the risk of sounding biased - I've had considerably more fun with the second group.
Kyronea
12-05-2006, 04:23
I worked at a pizza restaurant ten years ago in California where I was the only white guy - but I wasn't the minority since I don't think any two employees were from the same heritage. Most had heavy accents. I can recall one night one handed me the phone and some redneck said "Finally, someone who speaks 'Merican" I said "If you want one of those you'll have to wait - the cherokee kid is making a delivery right now" and hung up on the dick.

For the most part CA wasn't too bad. Florida is very different - it is much more prevalent but much much more subtle. I never will forget the first time a black customer asked me if I was "willing to do business with a man of color". (My answer was "The only color I care about is the color of your money?") That was a long time ago though. It seems to be getting better, but I still sense more - maybe it' sjust because I'm older and wiser than I was in CA>

I've been to many charity events in FL and notice that some are nearly all white and some are nearly all black. At the risk of sounding biased - I've had considerably more fun with the second group.

You'd think in this day and age when information is so readily available and we're able to prove so easily how racial differences are minor at worst(limited mainly to simple minor variations in how susceptible one is to diseases and whatnot), but no, no, the racists just use that technology to continue spreading their hate. It's dispicable.
Zogia
12-05-2006, 04:39
My step-mom is racist, but at least the group she hates most, Cubians, she is a part of!
The Panda Hat
12-05-2006, 04:43
I go to school in Kent County, Maryland, which I'm pretty sure was the last county in America to integrate their schools. In this town, you either have to deal with racist hicks with confederate flags on the bumpers of their pickups or gangs that will beat college kids up for $5.

They tend to stay on their own little turfs though, and the borders between them are safe enough.
Most Great Britannia
12-05-2006, 04:45
I am curious as to who here has experienced racism in their local area. I experienced it indirectly earlier today. While working at Wendy's, a customer berated Afruja--an Indian(as in, India)--who was running the register, calling her a dirty Mexican(because apparently he was too stupid to realize from her complexion and name she was not Hispanic) because he couldn't understand what she said due to her accent. I immediately leapt to her defense, though that was rather unnecessary, as the manager asked him to leave the restaurant. He shouted something about illegal Mexicans and how we'd lost a customer. Well, sir, fuck you: I wouldn't want your money anyway.

So, anyone else have any similar experiences with such idiots?

Tons of racism and other "isms" in Rhode Island. It is against Whites, Christians, males, etc. Can't we just treat eachother with dignity? Why must people (mainly white peopleO discriminate against other white people and claim it is payback from slavery and all that? My ancestors fought to stop slavery, and were not racist...yet because I am a white Chrisitian male I must be discriminated so, especially all those bonus points you get for being a minority, female, or whatever when applying for university.
Kiryu-shi
12-05-2006, 04:50
In my neighborhood, the race/class distinctions are so present, it seems just by living here and belonging to a certain group means you are indirectly racist. On the East side of the one main street, there are many white liberal yuppies living in beautiful million $ plus houses, while on the other side are Puerto Rican and black families living in run-down slum apartments paid for by the welfare program. There aren't real tensions, cause both sides of the neighborhood are mostly laid-back, but the system seems to be very racist.

Edit: Rereading what I wrote, I feel like I have more to add. Typically poor black women in my neighborhood hate with a passion, white women, and the entire Jewish population (because they are taking over the world). The yuppies are racist because they believe that they are so much better than the poor blacks and hispanics, and it is their duty to "enlighten" them. The sad part is the small children play alongside each other everyday, the colors of their skin don't seem to matter when they are under 10 years old. But as they get older, the people slowly get more and more segregated and ignorant about the each other. And in sixteen years of living right in between, but not a part of either group, it dosn't seem to be changing.
Most Great Britannia
12-05-2006, 04:58
Funny, but my town is 97% white upper middle class, yet my best friend is black, what are the odds of that? lol Though he isn't an African American, he is from Nigera. I find that liberal towns like mine are VERY "race-aware" they ALWAYS bring up the issue and can't just let things be. They are so ignorant though, I got called a racist because I won't call black people "African American." What if they are Australian aboriginal or from Southern India? Black is not racist people....Also I noticed that when black people start acting intelligent, other black people bring them down and call them "oreo" and other names, utter b/s is what that is.

EDIT
I forgot to add, I also cannot stand people who say only White people can be racist, and that people of other races are not as racist against eachother as white people, in fact I've seen more racism against whites then by them. To claim only whites are racist is in itself is racism.
Kyronea
12-05-2006, 05:00
It just doesn't make sense! It's ridiculous, really. Yet it continues to thrive despite our best attempts to rid our world of this shame.
New Genoa
12-05-2006, 05:01
I have one or two racist friends, but it doesn't bother me at all.
Demented Hamsters
12-05-2006, 05:03
Race/ethnicty is totally irrelevant. I wish everyone in the world was colorblind, race-wise at least. :(
More than that, ideally we would have a large pot suitable for melting things. Voluminous to accomodate the entire Earth and it's human population. A large wooden spoon would also be necessary, in order to adequately mix it for a century at least.
The end result would be tawny coloured homo sapiens.

A dream I think we could all wish for.
Most Great Britannia
12-05-2006, 05:03
I have one or two racist friends, but it doesn't bother me at all.

It wouldn't bother me either. If I was good friends with someone, I wouldn't just abandon then if they claimed to have "racist thoughts." I don't discriminate against people because of their political ideology :p ;) lol
Most Great Britannia
12-05-2006, 05:06
More than that, ideally we would have a large pot suitable for melting things. Voluminous to accomodate the entire Earth and it's human population. A large wooden spoon would also be necessary, in order to adequately mix it for a century at least.
The end result would be tawny coloured homo sapiens.

A dream I think we could all wish for.

um no, I don't want races to disappear. 2 of my cousins are marrying people of different races, I don't have a problem with that, but I do not want to see my race disappear.

And America is no longer a melting pot. Most Hispanic immigrants be they illegal (which compromise 75% of them) or legal do not integrate, rendering America as more of a tossed salad than a melting pot.
Kyronea
12-05-2006, 05:07
More than that, ideally we would have a large pot suitable for melting things. Voluminous to accomodate the entire Earth and it's human population. A large wooden spoon would also be necessary, in order to adequately mix it for a century at least.
The end result would be tawny coloured homo sapiens.

A dream I think we could all wish for.
So long as we keep red hair around. That's the ONLY thing I lament out of this eventuality, is the loss of red hair.
JuNii
12-05-2006, 05:08
not to me but my friend had an experience. she (Japanese) started a friendly conversation with a Caucasian Mainlander (Haole here in Hawaii) and she was so shocked and surprised that a Japanese girl "talked" to her. She later told my Friend that she now knew what it was like to be in a "Minority" in a class full of Asians and Pacific Islanders. :p
New Genoa
12-05-2006, 05:08
It wouldn't bother me either. If I was good friends with someone, I wouldn't just abandon then if they claimed to have "racist thoughts." I don't discriminate against people because of their political ideology :p ;) lol

Plus, it's not like their super right wing either. Quite the contrary. I can make basically any sick, twisted offensive joke I'd like, whether it be racist, sexist, atheistic, or just fucked up in the head joke.:D

I don't have a problem with racism; I have a problem with nationalism (white, black, puerto rican, mexican, you name it) because it's so damn annoying.
Kiryu-shi
12-05-2006, 05:12
Come to think of it, I am racist. In my neighborhood, especially if I walk a few blocks over, I am very aware of a certain demographic of people: young black men, aged 15-25. Gangs and shootings exist, and I do judge the likelyhood of someone being in a gang in part by the color of their skin. I don't know if this is because I am so used to seeing this character (the black gangsta) in the media, or if its because it seems to be true. I am the child of an interracial marriage, and am in an interracial relationship, but I know that I make judgements based on skin color. I wish I didn't, and if I think about it I can override the instinct, but...

Racism sucks.
Most Great Britannia
12-05-2006, 05:15
Plus, it's not like their super right wing either. Quite the contrary. I can make basically any sick, twisted offensive joke I'd like, whether it be racist, sexist, atheistic, or just fucked up in the head joke.:D

I don't have a problem with racism; I have a problem with nationalism (white, black, puerto rican, mexican, you name it) because it's so damn annoying.

Personally I define racism as discriminating against people because of their race, and denying blatant fact about race...I don't really like that, and I don't mind being called a racist because it has lost its meaning through over-use. Calling someone racist who calls "native americans" American Indians is not racist (especially considering that is what most Indians prefer as it comes from the bastarization of 2 spanish words meaning "in with God" and because I am about 2% American Indian)...

I don't mind nationalism. I am not aware of a white nation. How can white be nationalism? There is not nation called "white" lol. I think we are too low on nationalism in America, though at least in my town where at one point to my disappointment there were more homosexual (rainbow) flags then American flags, though luckily it changed....
Most Great Britannia
12-05-2006, 05:19
Come to think of it, I am racist. In my neighborhood, especially if I walk a few blocks over, I am very aware of a certain demographic of people: young black men, aged 15-25. Gangs and shootings exist, and I do judge the likelyhood of someone being in a gang in part by the color of their skin. I don't know if this is because I am so used to seeing this character (the black gangsta) in the media, or if its because it seems to be true. I am the child of an interracial marriage, and am in an interracial relationship, but I know that I make judgements based on skin color. I wish I didn't, and if I think about it I can override the instinct, but...

Racism sucks.

That isn't really racism, 50% of the crimes in America are comitted by black people when they conly constitute 12% of the population, blacks commit far more crimes agaisnt white people and vice versa. Racism would if a black person walked into the room and you instantly decided he was a gang member solely because of his skin colour (not his clothes, demanor (spelling) or any of that...Well I should get to bed before I fall asleep across the computre....


EDIT I just noticed I used "he" up there, I assumed your gang member was male because men on average commit more crimes, so was it a sexist remark I made? no. Would it be racist to think that blacks commit more crimes in the US? No, it is fact, same with males, to deny it is more of a racist issue, but to make a blanket statement and say "all males are criminals" is sexist and "all blacks are theifs" would be racist...
Posi
12-05-2006, 05:20
I don't mind nationalism. I am not aware of a white nation. How can white be nationalism? There is not nation called "white" lol. I think we are too low on nationalism in America, though at least in my town where at one point to my disappointment there were more homosexual (rainbow) flags then American flags, though luckily it changed....
Racial Nationalism is the uniting of people of the same race in the same way that nationalism unites people of the same nation. It's goal is give power to members of that race, often at the expense of other races. It is extemely bigoted and exclusive of people outside their race.
Kyronea
12-05-2006, 05:25
Racial Nationalism is the uniting of people of the same race in the same way that nationalism unites people of the same nation. It's goal is give power to members of that race, often at the expense of other races. It is extemely bigoted and exclusive of people outside their race.
Aye.

...Posi, what's the source of that Pat Robertson quote? That's just too ridiculous for words.
Kiryu-shi
12-05-2006, 05:31
That isn't really racism, 50% of the crimes in America are comitted by black people when they conly constitute 12% of the population, blacks commit far more crimes agaisnt white people and vice versa. Racism would if a black person walked into the room and you instantly decided he was a gang member solely because of his skin colour (not his clothes, demanor (spelling) or any of that...Well I should get to bed before I fall asleep across the computre....


EDIT I just noticed I used "he" up there, I assumed your gang member was male because men on average commit more crimes, so was it a sexist remark I made? no. Would it be racist to think that blacks commit more crimes in the US? No, it is fact, same with males, to deny it is more of a racist issue, but to make a blanket statement and say "all males are criminals" is sexist and "all blacks are theifs" would be racist...

In my opinion, judging a person on their race is racist. Maybe I'm racist because because of common sense and facts. In a perfect world, there wouldn't be any facts that would lead me to be racist. But I guess I just think that judging someone on their race is racist, whether it is justified or not. Maybe I should be racist because of how society is...

I don't know where I'm going with this idea, but I still believe I am racist. And I'm guessing, according to my (very probably flawed) definition of racism, everyone is a little bit racist. ("Avenue Q" reference)
Posi
12-05-2006, 05:32
Aye.

...Posi, what's the source of that Pat Robertson quote? That's just too ridiculous for words.
I stole it from Monkeypimp. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10942923&postcount=2):)
Khalhazarus
12-05-2006, 05:34
Once my mum was talking to her father. I dont remember what they were talking about, but suddenly he says "You know, things ran much smoother when aparthied was instated." (He had lived in South Africa). This obviously gave me a really warm feeling inside, especially seeing as how im mixed black.

Another time we were reading the newspaper in Oregon (where he lives now). It was talking about how there were increased crime rates in Oregon, and he claimed that it was all the illegals coming from over the border. Now, maybe Im wrong, but people with last names like "Allen", "Johnson", etc. generally dont seem to be illegals.

I know Im supposed to love him cause hes family, but sometimes...
Undelia
12-05-2006, 05:34
Not as much racism here as I’m sure most of you would expect in a small southern Texas city. I’ve never encountered any sort of anti-black prejudice, but you do get the occasional hick blaming illegals for problems and such. Oh yeah, an Indian friend of mine was once told to “go back to Saudi Arabia.” The asshat who said that was mocked for his ignorance for weeks.
Kiryu-shi
12-05-2006, 05:42
Not as much racism here as I’m sure most of you would expect in a small southern Texas city.

I think racism comes with ignorance rather than location. God knows New York, famously liberal (I think), can be extremely racist. Although I've hardly ever been out of NY, so I can't be really sure how racist other places are, racism is pretty big here.
Dutchdj
12-05-2006, 05:59
I Admit I do have Some kind of racism, It's not to all kinds of "other" ethnics, but to just one or two groups of people migrated to my country. It's a fact in the Netherlands that there are some groups of here that cause a lot of criminality, (about 20 % of the national, while the % living here is just 4 or 5 %). The racism is also based on private facts with those groups, that I didn't have to deal with other groups.

Awaiting Reactions,

Dutchdj
Daistallia 2104
12-05-2006, 06:01
I am curious as to who here has experienced racism in their local area. I experienced it indirectly earlier today. While working at Wendy's, a customer berated Afruja--an Indian(as in, India)--who was running the register, calling her a dirty Mexican(because apparently he was too stupid to realize from her complexion and name she was not Hispanic) because he couldn't understand what she said due to her accent. I immediately leapt to her defense, though that was rather unnecessary, as the manager asked him to leave the restaurant. He shouted something about illegal Mexicans and how we'd lost a customer. Well, sir, fuck you: I wouldn't want your money anyway.

So, anyone else have any similar experiences with such idiots?

I've seen both sides of the coin here.

I've been the target of racism on occassion. Mostly it's in the form of just plain ignorance and stereotyping - from the "you can use chopsticks and speak three words of Japanese? AMAZING!" sort to the "all foreign men are ugly losers who are only here to have sex with beautiful Japanese girls."

But I've also been denied entry or service at businesses who say "no foreigners!"

And it's worse for other ethnicities, especially Asians and Africans.

Here's a good collection of some typical "no foreigners allowed" signs:
http://www.debito.org/roguesgallery.html


OTOH, I know plenty of people who're quite racist against Japanese. :(

And I've had a nice share of people who've been totally open and non-prejudiced at all.


not to me but my friend had an experience. she (Japanese) started a friendly conversation with a Caucasian Mainlander (Haole here in Hawaii) and she was so shocked and surprised that a Japanese girl "talked" to her. She later told my Friend that she now knew what it was like to be in a "Minority" in a class full of Asians and Pacific Islanders. :p

:D I can definately say I've been there.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 06:05
I live in Alabama, hick central. 99% of people here are white and about 40% hate me because I'm black. I've been beaten up by the KKK on three separate occasions.
JuNii
12-05-2006, 06:10
I've seen both sides of the coin here.

I've been the target of racism on occassion. Mostly it's in the form of just plain ignorance and stereotyping - from the "you can use chopsticks and speak three words of Japanese? AMAZING!" sort to the "all foreign men are ugly losers who are only here to have sex with beautiful Japanese girls."

But I've also been denied entry or service at businesses who say "no foreigners!"

And it's worse for other ethnicities, especially Asians and Africans.

Here's a good collection of some typical "no foreigners allowed" signs:
http://www.debito.org/roguesgallery.html


OTOH, I know plenty of people who're quite racist against Japanese. :(

And I've had a nice share of people who've been totally open and non-prejudiced at all.




:D I can definately say I've been there.
Some definately non-asian friends of mine went to Japan for a trip. talking blonde hair, tall, no way to be taken as a Japanese or even Asian. one night they entered a small resturant... talking the better ones... a real hole in the wall. well priced and great food. the patron (who didn't speak any english) started panicing when this group of Gaijins walked in. she motioned them to sit down and was fretting about how to communicate the menu (since it was written on the wall.) they immediatly proceeded to order in perfect Japanese much to her shock. then when the orders came, they proceded to give the lady a heart attack as they used the hashi (chopsticks) and, as they were leaving they could hear the woman loudly telling her husband in an amazed voice that they even drank the Miso Soup.
:D
Magdha
12-05-2006, 06:25
I live in Alabama, hick central. 99% of people here are white and about 40% hate me because I'm black. I've been beaten up by the KKK on three separate occasions.

Shit. I'm sorry to hear that. :(
NERVUN
12-05-2006, 06:29
Some definately non-asian friends of mine went to Japan for a trip. talking blonde hair, tall, no way to be taken as a Japanese or even Asian. one night they entered a small resturant... talking the better ones... a real hole in the wall. well priced and great food. the patron (who didn't speak any english) started panicing when this group of Gaijins walked in. she motioned them to sit down and was fretting about how to communicate the menu (since it was written on the wall.) they immediatly proceeded to order in perfect Japanese much to her shock. then when the orders came, they proceded to give the lady a heart attack as they used the hashi (chopsticks) and, as they were leaving they could hear the woman loudly telling her husband in an amazed voice that they even drank the Miso Soup.
:D
Been there, done that, numerous times.

I've been very lucky in that were I live, I really don't notice anything at all. Maybe because Nagano hosted the Olympics and having the world's undivided attention for that long got the gaijin shock out of its system. The only time I am really stared at, in Nagano, is encountering little kids, but to be fair, they stare at everything anyway.

Now, outside of Nagano I have gotten stared at, glared at, moved away from and emptied out a hotel bath all because I happened to go in to get a warm soak in the morning before breakfast (So much for Aichi-ken living up to its name).

Best experiance was freaking a guy out in Shinjuku Station who heard me speak in English behind him and compleatly freaked. He literally ran away from me, in TOKYO!

That's why the next person who mentions anything racist when I go home is going to get a very long, very loud lecture.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 06:31
Shit. I'm sorry to hear that. :(
Yeah, I'm outta here once I've got enough money.
Magdha
12-05-2006, 06:35
Yeah, I'm outta here once I've got enough money.

Come to Minnesota. We hate Klansmen here. A few years back, they come to St. Paul, and several got beaten up. :p
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 06:39
Come to Minnesota. We hate Klansmen here. A few years back, they come to St. Paul, and several got beaten up. :p
I'll keep that in mind. I'm just sick of having to keep repainting my house. That and constantly getting pulled over. Fucking racist cops.
Undelia
12-05-2006, 06:39
I think racism comes with ignorance rather than location. God knows New York, famously liberal (I think), can be extremely racist. Although I've hardly ever been out of NY, so I can't be really sure how racist other places are, racism is pretty big here.
True. In this part of the country, most families have lived here for generations, all kinds of families, black, Hispanic, white. Lately we’ve been getting more immigration from Asia, and it really isn’t phasing us, because we’re used to our neighbors speaking another language at home and sometimes in public.
The Chinese Republics
12-05-2006, 06:45
I live in Alabama, hick central. 99% of people here are white and about 40% hate me because I'm black. I've been beaten up by the KKK on three separate occasions.I felt sorry for you dude.

Here's mine, over 50% at my school are Indians (as if First Nations), 40% whites, and 10% Asians. Around 5% of the white guys hate me, all of them lived 10Km from where I am. Damn retarded trailer trash pot smoking rednecks. Also there are so many Indians vs. Indians and Whites vs. Indians fights at the city skate board park, crazy.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 06:47
I felt sorry for you dude.

Here's mine, over 50% at my school are Indians (as if First Nations), 40% whites, and 10% Asians. Around 5% of the white guys hate me, all of them lived 10Km from where I am. Damn retarded trailer trash pot smoking rednecks. Also there are so many Indians vs. Indians and Whites vs. Indians fights at the city skate board park, crazy.
I'm a girl.
Undelia
12-05-2006, 06:47
Here's mine, over 50% at my school are Indians (as if First Nations), 40% whites, and 10% Asians. Around 5% of the white guys hate me, all of them lived 10Km from where I am. Damn retarded trailer trash pot smoking rednecks. Also there are so many Indians vs. Indians and Whites vs. Indians fights at the city skate board park, crazy.
Hey!
There is nothing wrong with smoking pot!;)
INO Valley
12-05-2006, 06:52
Yep, my school has a large hick population.
Replace "Racism" in the original question with "gang activity", and replace "hick" in your answer with "black", and then think about what you said.



I see nothing wrong with interracial relationships. Many people I know are in such relationships; I have been in several, myself.

Race/ethnicty is totally irrelevant. I wish everyone in the world was colorblind, race-wise at least. :(
Well, we're getting there. I saw a study the other week that indicated opposition to interracial marriage in the United States had declined from almost 50% of the population in 1986, to less than 20% in 2003. I'd bet that in a few decades, anti-miscegenation will be about as popular in the United States as Communism is.


I forgot to add, I also cannot stand people who say only White people can be racist, and that people of other races are not as racist against eachother as white people, in fact I've seen more racism against whites then by them. To claim only whites are racist is in itself is racism.
I recall a survey from not long ago, examining race relations in the United States. One of the questions asked was about self-identification of racist beliefs or impulses on the part of those being surveyed.

40% of blacks in the surveyed reported some level of racial bias on their own part, as compared to just 33% of whites surveyed.

Once my mum was talking to her father. I dont remember what they were talking about, but suddenly he says "You know, things ran much smoother when aparthied was instated." (He had lived in South Africa). This obviously gave me a really warm feeling inside, especially seeing as how im mixed black.

Well, from what I know (and I've never lived in South Africa), that's...well, true. It's an unfortunate and an ugly truth to be sure, but South Africa had far less crime, for instance, and, from what I know, a more efficient government and bureaucracy during the aparthied years.

Now, needless to say, those facts in no way justify the atrocities committed by South Africa's aparthied-era government. My point is simply that we should not ignore the truth simply to slander a particular group -- even if, as in this case, said group's actions were nothing short of morally abhorrent.


Another time we were reading the newspaper in Oregon (where he lives now). It was talking about how there were increased crime rates in Oregon, and he claimed that it was all the illegals coming from over the border. Now, maybe Im wrong, but people with last names like "Allen", "Johnson", etc. generally dont seem to be illegals.
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Well, Oregon's population is 8.7% foreign born, 8% Hispanic, 5.5% Mexican, and approximately 2.5% illegal immigrant. That doesn't mean, of course, that the illegal immigrants are (overly) responsible for said increase in the crime rate, but they could certainly be a contributing factor.


But I've also been denied entry or service at businesses who say "no foreigners!"

And it's worse for other ethnicities, especially Asians and Africans.

Here's a good collection of some typical "no foreigners allowed" signs:
http://www.debito.org/roguesgallery.html
Wow! I had understood that the Japanese are generally rather hostile (though generally a relatively passive manner) towards foreigners, but I had no idea that it was so blatant.
The Chinese Republics
12-05-2006, 06:59
Hey!
There is nothing wrong with smoking pot!;)

I have nothing wrong with pot smokers either, it's just these group of idiots who pissed me off so bad. Once I heard they mixed weed, shrooms, and crystal meth together and smoked them, then they came to school and fucked up my car the next day. BAH!!!!
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 07:04
I've had to repaint my house five times because people keep spray painting things like "gET ouT NigEr". I would very much like to, believe me.
Posi
12-05-2006, 07:07
I've had to repaint my house five times because people keep spray painting things like "gET ouT NigEr"
Next time you should paint a response along the lines of "I plan to, but having to repaint my house every couple weeks is means it is going to take me longer to save up the money I need to leave."

However, they might not appreciate the smart-assery.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 07:10
Next time you should paint a response along the lines of "I plan to, but having to repaint my house every couple weeks is means it is going to take me longer to save up the money I need to leave."

However, they might not appreciate the smart-assery.
:D That made me laugh, even though it isn't remotely funny. But yeah, they're kinda shooting themselves in the foot there, delaying my departure.
Posi
12-05-2006, 07:12
:D That made me laugh, even though it isn't remotely funny. But yeah, they're kinda shooting themselves in the foot there, delaying my departure.
Well, that is Posi for ya, making people laugh with unfunny jokes.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 07:17
Well, that is Posi for ya, making people laugh with unfunny jokes.
There's this one cop who keeps following me around and pulling me over and giving me parking tickets. It's extremely annoying.:headbang:
Posi
12-05-2006, 07:19
There's this one cop who keeps following me around and pulling me over and giving me parking tickets. It's extremely annoying.:headbang:
Hmmm, I do not know of a witty way to get the cop to hate you even more.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 07:22
Hmmm, I do not know of a witty way to get the cop to hate you even more.
Brake suddenly when he's sitting on my tail? I doubt my car will sustain much damage. That little wind-up toy he drives, however...
Posi
12-05-2006, 07:27
Brake suddenly when he's sitting on my tail? I doubt my car will sustain much damage. That little wind-up toy he drives, however...
That would be funny, but not in a clever way.

Next time she pulls you over, give her a ticket for Driving Without the Influence of Funk (DWIF).
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 07:29
That would be funny, but not in a clever way.

Next time she pulls you over, give her a ticket for Driving Without the Influence of Funk (DWIF).
What???
Posi
12-05-2006, 07:31
What???
Give the cop a ticket next time she pulls you over.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 07:34
Give the cop a ticket next time she pulls you over.
Okay, I get it now. I'm not sure where you got this idea that the cop is female, though.
Posi
12-05-2006, 07:35
Okay, I get it now. I'm not sure where you got this idea that the cop is female, though.
Neither do I.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 07:41
Neither do I.
Driving Without Influence of Funk sounds kinda stupid, though. I mean, funk??? But it's still a good idea.
Ravvyland
12-05-2006, 07:42
I'm a girl.

Am I the only that caught this?

And you've been beaten up by the KKK and people vandalize your property? :eek: I don't know what to say to that at all.

Living in Canada, I've really never encountered racism. There's some narrow-mindedness, but Canada's pretty much a big melting pot, which is great. All sorts of different cultures, different races. 2 official languages. National health care. It's grand.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 07:43
I live near San Francisco, so there really isn't much racism here, although there was an incident a few years back in which many of the lawns on some street somewhere were marked (maybe burned into them?) with swastikas and some very offensive messages toward African-Americans. The whole region (in which there are seven and a half million people) was in such an uproar that, not only did the media run the story and its follow-ups for several weeks, but the FBI actually launched an investigation (Good for them.). As for me, there was an incident once in the sixth grade in which a student (who I guess was trying to make friends with me) sang to me his "funny poem" about various enemies in the middle east. I must say, I didn't really enjoy the ending ("We're gonna kill you just like an f---ing Jew."), especially considering that, not only am I Jewish, but most of my extended family was murded in the Holocaust. There was also another incident a year later, but that person probably only said his rather terribly pro-Nazi comment to upset me. (And, I, being at the time a somewhat immature middle schooler, kicked him- twice.)
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 07:44
Am I the only that caught this?
Living in Canada, I've really never encountered racism. There's some narrow-mindedness, but Canada's pretty much a big melting pot, which is great. All sorts of different cultures, different races. 2 official languages. National health care. It's grand.

Oh, rub it in...
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 07:48
Canada soudns great. Once I get out of this place, I'm there.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 07:48
So, anyway, I have a question. The media makes things out to look like there's still a lot of racism, descrimination, and general inequality against African-Americans. Now, I know that there will always be people who are racist and that there are some areas of the country in which these things still occur, but on the general national scale, is it actually common?
Posi
12-05-2006, 07:50
Am I the only that caught this?

And you've been beaten up by the KKK and people vandalize your property? :eek: I don't know what to say to that at all.

Living in Canada, I've really never encountered racism. There's some narrow-mindedness, but Canada's pretty much a big melting pot, which is great. All sorts of different cultures, different races. 2 official languages. National health care. It's grand.
We are not a melting-pot. Melting-pot suggests that we pressure imigrants to assilimate, like the Borg. IIRC, we are cultural mosaic.

Oh, and I caught it. I just didn't think people though highly enough of the KKK to think that they would exclude women.
The Phalange
12-05-2006, 07:52
In Minnesota, racism is extremely rare.
Ravvyland
12-05-2006, 07:53
We are not a melting-pot. Melting-pot suggests that we pressure imigrants to assilimate, like the Borg. IIRC, we are cultural mosaic.

Hmm. Melting pot was described in my Canadian Geography class in my last year of high school as being a good thing, as being the way I described it -- a positive. A cultural diversity and acceptance thing.

But if that term isn't the right one, then I won't use it. My point is, Canada is a good place when it comes to race and culture. It's quite diverse and I've really never encountered any racism in my life.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 07:55
My point is, Canada is a good place when it comes to race and culture. It's quite diverse and I've really never encountered any racism in my life.

You'd really like San Francisco, then.
Posi
12-05-2006, 07:57
Hmm. Melting pot was described in my Canadian Geography class in my last year of high school as being a good thing, as being the way I described it -- a positive. A cultural diversity and acceptance thing.

But if that term isn't the right one, then I won't use it. My point is, Canada is a good place when it comes to race and culture. It's quite diverse and I've really never encountered any racism in my life.
I generally think of a melting pot as the decent second choice. You accept others, but require them to make allot of changes to fit in. It still beats the hell out of segration, slavery, and out right banning of foriegners.
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:00
Canada soudns great. Once I get out of this place, I'm there.
Research you province first. Each one has a few unique ups and downs to it. BTW, The wait-list to get into Canada is quite long. It may be shorter because you are American, but I would look into how long it would take to obtain citizenship as soon as you are sure you want to come to Canada.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:00
I generally think of a melting pot as the decent second choice. You accept others, but require them to make allot of changes to fit in. It still beats the hell out of segration, slavery, and out right banning of foriegners.
The way I see it, every place is a melting pot. It's just that some pots have different metals in them. If Canada's pot, for example has equal parts of gold, silver, platinum, iron, lead, etc. in it, then your end result will be a new and very interesting metal.
Alabama's pot, however, has a big lump of iron and a few ounces of gold. The result will be pretty much the same as pure iron.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:00
The last news I've heard of the South was from the 1970s. At that time, it was reportedly so racist that it literally disgusted the people who told me about it. Is it still like that? Has the situation improved there? Are most Southerners actually tolerant? Is racism still a problem in the South. (I'm asking so many questions, I ought to have a big light over you and ask if Jimmy is "resting with the fishes.")
BLACKGRUE
12-05-2006, 08:01
I havn't experienced local racism directly however I do live near several synogouges defaced by local nazi groups... And I do some volenteer work for The Holocaust History Project (http://www.holocaust-history.org/) which has been victem of a number of hate-crimes including Arson and an ongoing denial of service attack.

Also, I myself have recieved personal death threats from Nazis, a pair of homophobes, and from a certain rabid Star Wars fan whom I will not name. I will talk of any incident if anyone asks.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:02
The last news I've heard of the South was from the 1970s. At that time, it was reportedly so racist that it literally disgusted the people who told me about it. Is it still like that? Has the situation improved there? Are most Southerners actually tolerant? Is racism still a problem in the South. (I'm asking so many questions, I ought to have a big light over you and ask if Jimmy is "resting with the fishes.")
Yes, it's still very racist, although probably less so than in the 70s. Currently, about 40% hate me on a racial basis. a couple decades ago, it would probably be more like 70%. And I don't know nothin' about Jimmy.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:04
I havn't experienced local racism directly however I do live near several synogouges defaced by local nazi groups... And I do some volenteer work for The Holocaust History Project (http://www.holocaust-history.org/) which has been victem of a number of hate-crimes including Arson and an ongoing denial of service attack.

Also, I myself have recieved personal death threats from Nazis, a pair of homophobes, and from a certain rabid Star Wars fan whom I will not name. I will talk of any incident if anyone asks.


In what state, region, or country do you live? (You don't have to say if you don't want to.)
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:04
I havn't experienced local racism directly however I do live near several synogouges defaced by local nazi groups... And I do some volenteer work for The Holocaust History Project (http://www.holocaust-history.org/) which has been victem of a number of hate-crimes including Arson and an ongoing denial of service attack.

Also, I myself have recieved personal death threats from Nazis, a pair of homophobes, and from a certain rabid Star Wars fan whom I will not name. I will talk of any incident if anyone asks.
I'd like to hear about the Star Wars fan and the homophobes. I hate them almost as much as racists. I wonder how many notches my social status will go down if people find out i'm a lesbian?
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:07
Yes, it's still very racist, although probably less so than in the 70s. Currently, about 40% hate me on a racial basis. a couple decades ago, it would probably be more like 70%. And I don't know nothin' about Jimmy.


Thanks for the response. I do still have one question, though. Is racism (especially against African-Americans) still a widespread problem across the United States?
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:08
I'd like to hear about the Star Wars fan and the homophobes. I hate them almost as much as racists. I wonder how many notches my social status will go down if people find out i'm a lesbian?

Yes, I have to say, I'm interested in the Star Wars incident too. Now, I was accidnetally attacked by a closet door (my fault), but a Star Wars fan... that's new for me.
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:09
The way I see it, every place is a melting pot. It's just that some pots have different metals in them. If Canada's pot, for example has equal parts of gold, silver, platinum, iron, lead, etc. in it, then your end result will be a new and very interesting metal.
Alabama's pot, however, has a big lump of iron and a few ounces of gold. The result will be pretty much the same as pure iron.
Well, when you melt a bunch of metals in a pot, the end result is a very unified, semetrical metal that takes the qualities from all the metals that make it up. Segregation, you would have a bunch of metals, but the iron is all confined to one spot, and gold domminates a different region. I suppose a cultural mosaic would have an overall unified appearance, but you can distinctly see parts of the various componant metals throughout the metal.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:09
Thanks for the response. I do still have one question, though. Is racism (especially against African-Americans) still a widespread problem across the United States?
Don't know. I've never been out of Alabama.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:10
Well, when you melt a bunch of metals in a pot, the end result is a very unified, semetrical metal that takes the qualities from all the metals that make it up. Segregation, you would have a bunch of metals, but the iron is all confined to one spot, and gold domminates a different region. I suppose a cultural mosaic would have an overall unified appearance, but you can distinctly see parts of the various componant metals throughout the metal.
Yeah, that does sound better. Touche, or however you spell that.
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:11
I'd like to hear about the Star Wars fan and the homophobes. I hate them almost as much as racists. I wonder how many notches my social status will go down if people find out i'm a lesbian?
On this forum, it will only go up. Some will demand proof, but they just want to see a pic of you macking on a chick.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:11
Don't know. I've never been out of Alabama.

Ah, well, thanks anyway. Anybody else know? (if racism is still a widespread problem across the United States)
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:12
Yeah, that does sound better. Touche, or however you spell that.
I think it has an accent on the e, however most people couldn't care less about you dropping it.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:14
I think it has an accent on the e, however most people couldn't care less about you dropping it.
:D I don't think my keyboard has an accent.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:16
:D I don't think my keyboard has an accent.

I don't think anyone's keyboard does. (Although, if you find one, do tell us where it is. (That sounded aufully pathetic, didn't it?))
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:16
:D I don't think my keyboard has an accent.
There is some weird keyboard shortcut. It involves you to hold ctrl then press a series of numbers. It is really more trouble than it is worth.
Ravvyland
12-05-2006, 08:17
:D I don't think my keyboard has an accent.

On mine if you hold Alt and hit the number pad "0, 2, 2, 3" and release, it makes an accent. é .. like that. There ya go. :P I figured it out by somokin' a lotta pot. J/k. :cool:

*post count +1*
The Phalange
12-05-2006, 08:18
Ah, well, thanks anyway. Anybody else know? (if racism is still a widespread problem across the United States)

It depends on the state.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:18
We seem to have lost track of the topic. I think there was one in there somewhere, but we've lost it. (And judging by several of the more recent postings, that's not all we've lost.)
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:20
It depends on the state.

Oh, thanks. So you're saying it is in a lot of places? (even outside the South?) Do you have any specific examples?
Peisandros
12-05-2006, 08:20
There are a few people around my age at school who seem to despise Samoans and Maori people. I don't interact with them. They're just extremely stupid.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:20
More in-keeping with the topic, one of the only points of view I share with my fellow Alabamans is hatred of Condaleeza Rice, although for different reasons. Damn bitch is trying to disband the UNCF.
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:20
We seem to have lost track of the topic. I think there was one in there somewhere, but we've lost it. (And judging by several of the more recent postings, that's not all we've lost.)
The topic is about people experiencing racism. I think we are quite on topic for page 7.
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:24
More in-keeping with the topic, one of the only points of view I share with my fellow Alabamans is hatred of Condaleeza Rice, although for different reasons. Damn bitch is trying to disband the UNCF.

I hate to be ignorant, but that's what comes of receiving a Californian education. Is UNCF the same thing as UNICEF?
Congressional Dimwits
12-05-2006, 08:25
I hate to be ignorant, but that's what comes of receiving a Californian education.

If ignorance is bliss, then I ought to be the happiest person in the world.
The Phalange
12-05-2006, 08:31
Oh, thanks. So you're saying it is in a lot of places? (even outside the South?) Do you have any specific examples?

Generally, the further south you go, the more racism you encounter. In the more liberal states, like Minnesota, racism is rare. Sadly, of course, racism exists in every state- it's blatant and common in some, and rare and obscure in others.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:34
I hate to be ignorant, but that's what comes of receiving a Californian education. Is UNCF the same thing as UNICEF?
No, completely different. United Negro College Fund. It's what paid her way through college and allowed her to go into politics.
Saint Ash
12-05-2006, 08:47
I dislike the majority of pakistanis who live in my town, because when I was younger groups of older pakistanis used to pick fights with me and my friends at the local cinema/bowiling ally because we were white.
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:47
No, completely different. United Negro College Fund. It's what paid her way through college and allowed her to go into politics.
That Whore.
Judge Learned Hand
12-05-2006, 08:47
I am curious as to who here has experienced racism in their local area. I experienced it indirectly earlier today. While working at Wendy's, a customer berated Afruja--an Indian(as in, India)--who was running the register, calling her a dirty Mexican(because apparently he was too stupid to realize from her complexion and name she was not Hispanic) because he couldn't understand what she said due to her accent. I immediately leapt to her defense, though that was rather unnecessary, as the manager asked him to leave the restaurant. He shouted something about illegal Mexicans and how we'd lost a customer. Well, sir, fuck you: I wouldn't want your money anyway.

So, anyone else have any similar experiences with such idiots?

Yeah here at good old Mizzou the Legion of Black Collegiates demanded and won the right to be recognized as the "offical black goverment of MU" they are a seperate student association that exercises a seperate but equal power as our regular Stuco within their jurisdiction. So now I have to pay student goverment dues to an organization I am prohibited from participating in because of my race (caucasian).

There's still plentyof racism to go around.:headbang:
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:51
That Whore.
Most black people lean towards left wing, so if we can't go to college, there's a lot of competition wiped out.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:52
Yeah here at good old Mizzou the Legion of Black Collegiates demanded and won the right to be recognized as the "offical black goverment of MU" they are a seperate student association that exercises a seperate but equal power as our regular Stuco within their jurisdiction. So now I have to pay student goverment dues to an organization I am prohibited from participating in because of my race (caucasian).

There's still plentyof racism to go around.:headbang:
That does seem unfair.
Judge Learned Hand
12-05-2006, 08:54
Not to mention being one huge step backwards for civil rights. They basically intentionally segregated themselves. It would be funny if it wasn't sad. I mean I even agreed with their reasoning, "People of color are not represented enough in the regular Student Association" but the answer to that is not "form your own goverment" its run more candidates the next year.

Oh well, segregation today, tommorrow and forever...I guess...
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:55
Most black people lean towards left wing, so if we can't go to college, there's a lot of competition wiped out.
That is about as bad as that senator who had the largest private donation during is campain in history, then proceeded to ban exessively large private donations in his district.
Judge Learned Hand
12-05-2006, 08:55
Was the private donation from a group that advocates banning private donations?

That would be perfect...
Posi
12-05-2006, 08:56
Was the private donation from a group that advocates banning private donations?

That would be perfect...
I dunno. I agree with the policy just he achieved it through some of the douchiest means possible.
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 08:58
Not to mention being one huge step backwards for civil rights. They basically intentionally segregated themselves. It would be funny if it wasn't sad. I mean I even agreed with their reasoning, "People of color are not represented enough in the regular Student Association" but the answer to that is not "form your own goverment" its run more candidates the next year.

Oh well, segregation today, tommorrow and forever...I guess...
You don't give us enough say in your system, so we're gonna extricate ourselves from your system entirely!
Judge Learned Hand
12-05-2006, 09:00
I mean its cool if that's how you feel but for a group that cites Martin Luther King Jr. as an inspiration I think its a little weird. Wouldn't it be better to stay, fight, and win a place within the preexisting system thus proving that you are in fact a human being no different from other human beings and just as deserving of fair and honest treatment?

Or is that just me?
An-Skrit
12-05-2006, 09:03
I mean its cool if that's how you feel but for a group that cites Martin Luther King Jr. as an inspiration I think its a little weird. Wouldn't it be better to stay, fight, and win a place within the preexisting system thus proving that you are in fact a human being no different from other human beings and just as deserving of fair and honest treatment?

Or is that just me?
No, I ahree. How are you going to prove you're just as fast as someone if you're running a different race?
Petingradatron
12-05-2006, 09:07
Living in Southern Virginia I've seen my fair share of rascist fuck-shits, but one time saw a group of intoxicated rednecks literally hunt (they collected flashlights and torches, then started planning on combing the woods) for my african-american friend. Because he touched thier truck. Needless to say we dragged our asses out of their (some of us hidden away) but let's just say I won't be attending any redneck parties again.
Anthil
12-05-2006, 10:57
:confused:
Yesterday an ultra right wing skinhead idiot shot a mother and her little daughter in Antwerp, Belgium, apparently for racist reasons. Still the next municipal elections are once more expected to become an ultra right wing success - and I'm talking 35% here. I wonder if just maybe quite a number of those who vote fascist applaud the killing.
Glitziness
12-05-2006, 10:58
My area is so predominantly white, and so predominantly middle-upper class conservative that, while I'm sure a large amount of racism exists, I haven't actually encountered much because it's hidden and easily so.

One of my friends, from America (US and South), has been told to "go back to her own country" by a select few and I've heard them say this when they see her. They've also threatened her in gangs. However I don't think the direct cause of this was racism, but a dislike of her personally - she's quite outspoken and loud and quite a few people see her as arrogant. Her sister, who is fully South American, hasn't encountered anything AFAIK. I think these certain people were just using her race in their aggression towards her, though there's obviously some racism in there.

The few people of ethnic minorities (about 5 out of 240) in my year at school all happen to be fairly popular in general, though all except one speak English fluently with an English accent and all except one were born and raised in England/US which is a large factor I'm sure.
BLACKGRUE
12-05-2006, 11:06
In what state, region, or country do you live? (You don't have to say if you don't want to.)

Aurora colorado USA earth.

Anyone wanting to find my address just has to look up my mother's name on usenet and you'll find it along with the death threats.

And no, I can't do nothing about it. The only people with the authority to do jack shit is the FBI... last time I talked to the FBI all I got was 4 hours of "THIS GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS".

Oh and the time I tried petitioning a US District court supposedly "Well versed in technology law" as the judge's secretary told me... I got a rather suprising statement, (and I qoute) "There is no such thing as usenet. The internet comprises only the Web, E-mail and instant messeging."
BLACKGRUE
12-05-2006, 11:09
I'd like to hear about the Star Wars fan and the homophobes. I hate them almost as much as racists. I wonder how many notches my social status will go down if people find out i'm a lesbian?

The homophobes heard I was transsexual and shouted "YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!" at me and threatened to (And I quote) "Speed your way there"

As for the star wars fan, he's the reason I left Alt.startrek.vs.starwars I suggested that the borg had a planet killing weapon in nanites and he called me stupid and suggested he (again I'm quoting, but this is inappropriate for some viewers so I'm whiting it out unless you highlight it) " Stab me with a large knife and use the wound as a vagina. "
Laerod
12-05-2006, 11:14
So, anyone else have any similar experiences with such idiots?Not personally, but I hear a Spanish guy got beaten up by Neo-Nazis in town last week. I don't doubt it; I'm white enough and my German is fluent, and that helps me avoid such situtations, but I can recognize a lot of Neo-Nazis on the street here just by looking at them.
The Blue Camel
12-05-2006, 11:23
Racism isn't just colour exclusive. I'm English, my partner German. When I go home there are often sly comments made about my partners nationality by my family. Generally the older members keep quite, it's their kids who will go up to my partner and tell him he is a nazi. A good friend of mine married a German and moved back to England his family are always referring to his wife and his son as nazi's, particularly his son who is referred to as the nazi ba**rd. My partner also once told me of an occasion when he had asked a guy for a light for his cigarette, the guy refused, he was French and made a point of telling him he was refusing because my partner was German.
Ok so there is a lot of bad history between our countries, but times have changed and we have moved on. All this ignorance has to stop.
Cataduanes
12-05-2006, 13:33
I know the feeling, i am born and raised in london to a german father who had the kindness to give a german name, geez the amount of shit i had to put up with!!

In my local area the blacks and whites (largely 2nd gen Irish) get along fine, its the Muslims that seem to get the most abuse, while the recent Polish influx into london seems to be provoking a dislike of eastern europeans from black and white alike.
Romanar
12-05-2006, 13:35
I live in the inner city, where there are quite a few races mixed together, and also people of limited education. It's not bad, certainly not anything like Alabama, but every so often, I hear someone make a racist remark.

And about a year ago, not far from my house, a black man got shot by some bozo who didn't want "n*gg*rs" in "his" neighborhood. Luckily, that is rare.
The Immortal Demon
12-05-2006, 13:50
This is to the Wendy's worker. It not racism. Its not her fault she couldnt understand the lady. If shes going to be in this country she should learn a little better on how to speak the language. I do agree that the lady did lose her temper but you cant hold that agaisnt everybody. Im sure your not perfect and have done the same thing.(not necessearaly a racist remark)


So i only have to say one thing.

" AMERICA FOR AMERICANS!" Slogan for the KKK
Pyotr
12-05-2006, 14:03
My High School has loads of racism I hear racist remarks everyday almost every class actually and there are even biological racists (through natural selection we, the white man have emerged superior):upyours: although most of the remarks aren't directed towards black people most of it is against Asians, Arabs, and Indians(as in india) one kid in my school from Pakistan had a drink thrown on him by a white student they never caught him
i wish i could:sniper:
Ilie
12-05-2006, 14:09
I actually do alright in Columbia, Maryland, as it is a planned community made specifically to espouse diversity. It's been said that the founder, James Rouse, wanted someplace for interracial couples to go and feel safe and raise their children in a diverse community. I think the first overt racism I was aware of was when I went to college, and somebody called me a dirty Jew. I just laughed...I thought they were joking. (It was weird.)
Bottle
12-05-2006, 14:12
I am curious as to who here has experienced racism in their local area. I experienced it indirectly earlier today. While working at Wendy's, a customer berated Afruja--an Indian(as in, India)--who was running the register, calling her a dirty Mexican(because apparently he was too stupid to realize from her complexion and name she was not Hispanic) because he couldn't understand what she said due to her accent. I immediately leapt to her defense, though that was rather unnecessary, as the manager asked him to leave the restaurant. He shouted something about illegal Mexicans and how we'd lost a customer. Well, sir, fuck you: I wouldn't want your money anyway.

So, anyone else have any similar experiences with such idiots?
Um, clearly you all have not gotten the memo: racism is totally gone. Completely. It went away as soon as we freed the slaves. I know, because this white guy on TV told me so.
Dzanissimo
12-05-2006, 14:14
Does staring on black people count?

If yes, then a lot of racism. If not, then there is no racism. Too few people from other races here.
Wingarde
12-05-2006, 14:16
Racism here in Argentina is relatively low, nowhere near to the levels of other countries such as the US. There's maybe an occasional joke every now and then, but it's obviously not taken seriously.
Pyotr
12-05-2006, 14:19
I know the feeling, i am born and raised in london to a german father who had the kindness to give a german name, geez the amount of shit i had to put up with!!

In my local area the blacks and whites (largely 2nd gen Irish) get along fine, its the Muslims that seem to get the most abuse, while the recent Polish influx into london seems to be provoking a dislike of eastern europeans from black and white alike.
Yea i've heard numerous times from my white colleagues that the only way to bring peace to the middle east and America is to wipe islam off the face of the earth. Isn't that what Osama Bin Laden was accusing us of in the first place?
The german thing is idiotic too, WWII was over 60 years ago get over it
Mintego
12-05-2006, 14:39
Yep, my school has a large hick population.

Thats just as racist to say. Callng people hicks.
Bottle
12-05-2006, 14:42
Thats just as racist to say. Callng people hicks.
"Hick" isn't necessarily racist, because it can apply to persons of many different races. You could certainly argue that it is an offensive term if you like, but I don't think you can call it "racist."

Now, "cracker-ass hick" would be racist. Or "honkey hicks." Or "hicks of Caucazoid ancestry."
Supreme God Marconi
12-05-2006, 14:58
i actully experience racism in my girlfriends city in CT, i was driving along and on the street there were 3 skin heads "white power, white america" holding up signs saying "Close the Borders" and "send all these imigrants back to where they belong" one of them saw me and scream this is white america send all you mexicans back to mexico. mind you im dominican born and raised in Brooklyn.

when are people going to realize that race and color is not an issue and shouldnt be an issue, its all cosmetic. its like if people with black hair hated every one that has blonde hair, makes no sense.

i didnt read all 9 pages because im at work so idk if this has been said but what i did read just talked about how white people are racist, but dont forget every race, culture, even religion is racist in some way or form to another, and it only takes that one bad apple to ruin them all.
Laerod
12-05-2006, 15:01
i actully experience racism in my girlfriends city in CT, i was driving along and on the street there were 3 skin heads "white power, white america" holding up signs saying "Close the Borders" and "send all these imigrants back to where they belong" one of them saw me and scream this is white america send all you mexicans back to mexico. mind you im dominican born and raised in Brooklyn.I'm pretty sure he had no native American blood in him and would have to go too, if all immigrants and their descendants were kicked out.
Most Great Britannia
12-05-2006, 21:57
Once my mum was talking to her father. I dont remember what they were talking about, but suddenly he says "You know, things ran much smoother when aparthied was instated." (He had lived in South Africa). This obviously gave me a really warm feeling inside, especially seeing as how im mixed black.

Well S Africa did run smoother under aparthied than it does now, crime has sky-rocketed, whites are being killed merely because they are white, not too good. Though it was not always this way. When it first ended, Nelson Mandela (spelling) was an awsome leader, the economy did not collapse under him, things went on as before. However, the South africans have voted in a nut-case that is like-minded to Robert Mugabe and he has been ruining poor South Africa.
INO Valley
12-05-2006, 22:24
Generally, the further south you go, the more racism you encounter. In the more liberal states, like Minnesota, racism is rare. Sadly, of course, racism exists in every state- it's blatant and common in some, and rare and obscure in others.
I would question whether that is on account of political leanings, or simply demographics. The Southern United States has a very large black population (and, in several states, large Hispanic populations), whereas Minnesota's is quite small (3.5% black and 2.9% Hispanic, compared to roughly 13% and 14% nationwide; the state is 88.2% white). One would expect less racism in New Hampshire or Wyoming than in Michigan or New York, if for no other reason than the fact that New Hampshire and Wyoming have largely racially homogenous populations; there is simply less "opportunity" for racist behaviour, and urban areas in these states lack the large, mostly black or Hispanic gangs and slum areas that, say, Florida and California have, and thus less stimulus for the development of racist attitudes (as a person living in, say, Los Angeles, might develop, from seeing heavy involvement of racial minorities in drug trafficking, gang acitivity and other illegal behaviour, and then broadly applying those sterotypes).

But I'm a Canadian living in a province that's about 95% white; most of the blacks I know are university students from Africa -- take everything here with a grain of salt.
Most Great Britannia
12-05-2006, 22:29
Generally, the further south you go, the more racism you encounter. In the more liberal states, like Minnesota, racism is rare. Sadly, of course, racism exists in every state- it's blatant and common in some, and rare and obscure in others.

We have racism here in RI, it is racism against white people. I could get into college easier because I have a little American Indian in me, and am half Syrian, but I don't agree with that. I think, no, I know affirimitive action is also racist.
Barbaric Tribes
12-05-2006, 22:53
Hillbilly's!!!!!!!!!! Everywhere!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Liberated New Ireland
12-05-2006, 22:55
Nelson Mandela (spelling) was an awsome leader.
Was Mandela killed or just voted out?