NationStates Jolt Archive

At my school atleast..

In class there are kids who make asses out of themselves. The teachers always let the kid off with a warning and then the bell rings and we go off to another class, and repeat.

Warnings don't work, and the teachers never do anything affective.

This is why I think every class room should have suggestion boxes. To give the students a voice and let them state their opinions on how to solve the problem, and to suggest ideas to the teacher.

I don't know if that would be an insult to the teacher.. saying they're not doing a good job.. but it isn't fair that the kid gets to go unpunished while the rest of the class suffers.

I'm going to go off that topic now and randomly rant that I also find it bull shit that the kid who actually acts up and starts hell goes free while a kid who is late three times or more gets a detention and a bad record.

Take me for example, I'm quiet in class, I do my work, and
I get good grades.. yet I have a problem with being on time.. I get punished for being 2 fucking minutes late to homeroom. I've gotten ISS and a warning saying the next step is a $200 fine.

He acts up, prevents others from getting their work done and what does he get? Nothing. He gets nothing while I get the bad record and the stess.

Don't you think that's a weeeee bit bullshit?

Now don't go saying "Wait till he gets into the real world and sees how fucked he is.." because I don't agree. He should be the one that has the record, he's the one that should be getting fucked over now so he has the shitty future.

Sorry for turning that into a rant.

*tries to remember point*

Ah yes, do you think there should be student-only suggestion boxes in class rooms?

No. The system would be abused, teachers would never look at them, and classes would get more unruly in general as a result. Never let kids think they have any freedom at all, it's a dangerous thing... keep them in line like the SS.

They do. Nobody uses them. Nobody cares when they do.

The solution is to tie him naked to a tree before school(well before school so you aren't late).

Although the thought is a good one, teachers themselves would be left with the task of reading them, and would give up after a few weeks/months. Thus: good idea, bad in practice.

Solution : Wait behind and get your mates to help you 'solve' the problem. Removing the disruption at the source is almost always the best course of action.

my university has a suggestion box... right beside Tim Horton's. :) And if that's too inconvenient, there's an e-mail address, too. And every month they send out an e-mail with replies to the suggestions.

Incentives matter.

If the punishment for being an idiot isn't sufficiently unpleasant, it won't deter them.

my university has a suggestion box... right beside Tim Horton's. :) And if that's too inconvenient, there's an e-mail address, too. And every month they send out an e-mail with replies to the suggestions.

I loved it when my University got a Tim Horton's. Happened in my third year.

Nothing like fresh doughnuts to keep a student going.

I loved it when my University got a Tim Horton's. Happened in my third year.

Nothing like fresh doughnuts to keep a student going.

Hehe. and just in case you can't wait to get on campus to get your morning coffee, they built a Tim's a block away with a drive thru... :rolleyes:

It's no wonder my city's one of the fattest around... I think we have one doughnut shop for every 25 people. :p

depends what grade we're talking about. High school juniors and seniors, sure. Freshman and below? hell no.

Ah yes, do you think there should be student-only suggestion boxes in class rooms?

OK, I can say this as a teacher who strongly believes in involving her students in classroom governance: "Why are you suggesting this to us and not to your teachers/administrators?"

Step one: Think of an idea (you've already got this; proceed directly to step two).

Step two: Make a plan for implementing this idea, ensuring that it does not involve a teacher having to sift through piles of pieces of paper on his/her free time or during the time when he/she is supposed to be planning your educational experiences. Perhaps a student committee to review suggestions, make a note of trends, and report on the results to the teacher or something like that.

Step three: Present your plan to a relevent teacher/administrator.

Step four: BE WILLING TO ACCEPT CRITICISM. This means that perhaps the teacher will say "I don't think this will work because of blah blah blah." Teachers are busy, teachers are set in their ways... but at least you'll have tried. It also means you may have to re-work your plan.

Step five: Try to make it work.

Hehe. and just in case you can't wait to get on campus to get your morning coffee, they built a Tim's a block away with a drive thru... :rolleyes:

It's no wonder my city's one of the fattest around... I think we have one doughnut shop for every 25 people. :p

Ever since I moved to Vancouver, it's actually hard to find doughnuts.

Though there are 6 Starbucks locations within 800m of my office (and I'm not even downtown).

depends what grade we're talking about. High school juniors and seniors, sure. Freshman and below? hell no.
Why? Just curious.

The solution is to tie him naked to a tree before school(well before school so you aren't late).

I approve. :)

*pause* Wait, usually, I'M the one making an ass of myself!

Ah, hell. I approve anyway. :)

As you said to me, Shouldn't you be in school? Or are we too addicted to NS we both actually skip school to be on it? But yeah, that happens at my school too. I tell my teachers to stop being so lenient, but they don't listen. So I have to listen to a bunch of girly girls sitting next to me techincally SCREAMING in my ear, while they should be doing work, which prevents me from doing my work.

Why? Just curious.
maturity. elementary school (1-5 or 6th grades or age 6-11) are not old enough to be making anything worthwhile ("we want more cookies" and the like). 7 and 8 or 12 and 13 year olds are far too egocentric and are in the snotty bratty age. 9th graders lack the maturity, are still in a "middle school" mentality, and the best way to handle them is to not give them the chance to abuse the system. Start by having full control...later you can give some up. 10th grade is starting to get it. juniors and seniors are essentially adults and are capable of both rational logical thought, understand consequences, and have developed their maturity.