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Another feat of daring stupidity on the part of the Bush administration. I wonder how long it'll take to fire the guy who did this one...

Presidential Papers Found In Trash (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/10/politics/main1605056.shtml)

I lolled

President Bush is a threat to National Security, we must send him to Gitmo!

I think there were a few words missing from this line: "Hopkins is an ex-con working in sanitation, and said he felt it was his civic duty to tell somebody about what he'd found, he told WUSA-TV"

I feel it should probably have read "Hopkins is an ex-con working in sanitation, and said he felt it was his civic duty to tell somebody about what he'd found, so to make sure he got some money out of it he told WUSA-TV"

Another feat of daring stupidity on the part of the Bush administration. I wonder how long it'll take to fire the guy who did this one...

Presidential Papers Found In Trash (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/10/politics/main1605056.shtml)
They'll fire the sanitation worker and give the person who put those docs in the trash the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

seriously what could have been on there that is so confidential. we all know that after he is fed and wiped he goes to sesame place daily, and in FL he'd just be in disney land on the tea cup ride.

Another feat of daring stupidity on the part of the Bush administration. I wonder how long it'll take to fire the guy who did this one...

Presidential Papers Found In Trash (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/10/politics/main1605056.shtml)

And while it is marked "official," the Secret Service says the document is not classified, Leshan reports

Nothing to see here. It isn't classified data. No laws were actually broken. We can go back to our lives.

And while it is marked "official," the Secret Service says the document is not classified, Leshan reports

Nothing to see here. It isn't classified data. No laws were actually broken. We can go back to our lives.

So you have nothing to say about the fact that government papers were found in a garbage can? How they got there would be an important question - and why they were put there. Also, which incompetent indiot did it.

Don't tell me, the President authorised it I expect, so it'll be okay...

And while it is marked "official," the Secret Service says the document is not classified, Leshan reports

Nothing to see here. It isn't classified data. No laws were actually broken. We can go back to our lives.

You don't see this as a major breach in security given it gave details of the exact arrival and departure time for Air Force One, listed every passenger on board each aircraft and this was before the trip occured?!

You don't see this as a major breach in security given it gave details of the exact arrival and departure time for Air Force One, listed every passenger on board each aircraft and this was before the trip occured?!

Why of course not. The Secret Service said they weren't. They couldn't possibly be covering their arses and make it look less embarrasing than it was...

President Bush is a threat to National Security, we must send him to Gitmo!

alright i think this meets the standards for token random anti bush comment

alright i think this meets the standards for token random anti bush comment

and you obivously don't know a JOKE when you see one. You can't take me seriously all the time here.

I know, it's easy to blame the Bush administration for incompentence...

But what if this was an act of treason? What if one of the staffers was paid to leave these documents on the floor in hoping somebody with an evil motive picked it up and attempted to assassinate the President?

I think there's something more sinister about it then just forgetting to put it in the burn bag.

I think there's a traitor in the White House.

I know, it's easy to blame the Bush administration for incompentence...

But what if this was an act of treason? What if one of the staffers was paid to leave these documents on the floor in hoping somebody with an evil motive picked it up and attempted to assassinate the President?

I think there's something more sinister about it then just forgetting to put it in the burn bag.

I think there's a traitor in the White House.
Cheney.

*nods*

And while it is marked "official," the Secret Service says the document is not classified, Leshan reports

Nothing to see here. It isn't classified data. No laws were actually broken. We can go back to our lives.

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and you obivously don't know a JOKE when you see one. You can't take me seriously all the time here.

you can never teel what some one on NS general is going to say about Bush. and most of the time it isnt sarcastic/joking

This is clearly part of a huge conspiracy. I just can't decide which one, the aliens or the Illuminati.

This is clearly part of a huge conspiracy. I just can't decide which one, the aliens or the Illuminati.

im voting on the mountain dwarves

You don't see this as a major breach in security given it gave details of the exact arrival and departure time for Air Force One, listed every passenger on board each aircraft and this was before the trip occured?!

If it was classified information then I would grant you the point. However, it wasn't classified data. It was an official notice but not classified. *shrugs* no security laws as far as I know where breached so meh.

This is clearly part of a huge conspiracy. I just can't decide which one, the aliens or the Illuminati.

How could it be the Illuminati when Bush is part of it?

Start searching for Gov't conspiracies, and you'll find the Bush family is a big part of most of them. Not bad for a guy who got C's and D's in school.

im voting on the mountain dwarves


Mountain dwarves and elves im siding with.

Those papers should have been recycled.

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Those papers should have been recycled.
You two win the thread.


This is almost as good as the time some ministers aide in England managed to leave a laptop full of important info in a pub.

Didn't Clinton's people once lose track of the "football" containing the nuclear launch-codes?

Why of course not. The Secret Service said they weren't. They couldn't possibly be covering their arses and make it look less embarrasing than it was...

Of course not. To cover their own ass someone in this administration would have to be able to find it with both hands and a flashlight.

Didn't Clinton's people once lose track of the "football" containing the nuclear launch-codes?
You're thinking of that episode of that really horrible piece of shit time travel show 7 Days.

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Unless that was based on a real incident, which wouldn't surprise me...

If it was classified information then I would grant you the point. However, it wasn't classified data. It was an official notice but not classified. *shrugs* no security laws as far as I know where breached so meh.

Yet it doesn't matter that official documents were found in a publically-accessible bin? Hell, it doesn't matter if it was the CIA Cafeteria Menu, it's still a bloody problem.

Yet it doesn't matter that official documents were found in a publically-accessible bin? Hell, it doesn't matter if it was the CIA Cafeteria Menu, it's still a bloody problem.
Of course it is, Skinny. But you see, this is Corneliu. He's a conservative American that is still loyal to Bush, so whatever the Bush administration says, he believes. :rolleyes:

I don't think it was a plant though. Probably just an accident. An accident of the kind that should not happen.

Apparently they need to borrow some paper shredders from the UN.

Of course it is, Skinny. But you see, this is Corneliu. He's a conservative American that is still loyal to Bush, so whatever the Bush administration says, he believes. :rolleyes

Eh, sometimes I think Corny is actually a bot somewhere pre-programmed with the auto-fellate behavioural program.

Doesn't he have a group to do that with now? ;)

Anyways,
*ahem*
BUMPITYBUMPITYBUMPITY
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Outstanding thread. Not just OP, but the *great* smartassedness by both wings.

You're thinking of that episode of that really horrible piece of shit time travel show 7 Days.

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Unless that was based on a real incident, which wouldn't surprise me...
Man, I totally forgot about that show!
But it actually did happen.
Booyah (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/328442.stm)
Stupidity is a bipartisan affair.

Man, I totally forgot about that show!
That's on every morning on cable, the Spike Network.
They had an episode on HAARP on Monday, which definitely garners my attention, for reasons i've posted before.

Nothing to see here.
Never is, considering where some people stick their heads on a regular basis. Too dark - the sun don't shine there much, or something like that.

I know, it's easy to blame the Bush administration for incompentence...

But what if this was an act of treason? What if one of the staffers was paid to leave these documents on the floor in hoping somebody with an evil motive picked it up and attempted to assassinate the President?

I think there's something more sinister about it then just forgetting to put it in the burn bag.

I think there's a traitor in the White House.
Sandy Berger returns from the ... erm, Presidential Medal of Freedom?

:eek:
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*cue MI:I and II music*

President Bush is a threat to National Security, we must send him to Gitmo!
Hear hear.

Nothing to see here. It isn't classified data. No laws were actually broken. We can go back to our lives.
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The level of stupidity and incompetence of the entire Bush administration never ceases to amaze me. Who knows what other sensitive documents have been left out for the trashman in the past. :upyours: IMPEACH BUSH NOW.:upyours:

You two win the thread.


This is almost as good as the time some ministers aide in England managed to leave a laptop full of important info in a pub.

But at least they had the decency to leave it in a pub - because that presumably means they were completely wankered when they did, which is an acceptable excuse. Especially for British politicians.

'Course, if they tried it now they'd probably have to resign - can't have drinkers in place of power can we? :D

The level of stupidity and incompetence of the entire Bush administration never ceases to amaze me. Who knows what other sensitive documents have been left out for the trashman in the past. :upyours: IMPEACH BUSH NOW.:upyours:

HAHA! Oh brother. Bush has done nothing impeachable and has not broken any laws. Nothing to impeach him on.

HAHA! Oh brother. Bush has done nothing impeachable and has not broken any laws. Nothing to impeach him on.

But you still find it okay that official, presidential papers were found in a bin in a public place and it is unknown who did it? It doesn't matter what they were, they were still official papers, and yet you don't seem to find anything wrong with this?

But you still find it okay that official, presidential papers were found in a bin in a public place and it is unknown who did it? It doesn't matter what they were, they were still official papers, and yet you don't seem to find anything wrong with this?

You are indeed right. I don't. If they were labeled Confidential then I would have a problem with it but since it wasn't classified, nope. No problem at all.

IMPEACH BUSH NOW.:upyours:
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I think there were a few words missing from this line: "Hopkins is an ex-con working in sanitation, and said he felt it was his civic duty to tell somebody about what he'd found, he told WUSA-TV"

I feel it should probably have read "Hopkins is an ex-con working in sanitation, and said he felt it was his civic duty to tell somebody about what he'd found, so to make sure he got some money out of it he told WUSA-TV"

Exactly. If he actually felt it was his civic duty, he'd have told the WHITE HOUSE, not the reporters.

You are indeed right. I don't. If they were labeled Confidential then I would have a problem with it but since it wasn't classified, nope. No problem at all.

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They're still fucking official papers. It doesn't matter that they're not 'Confidential'. They're still bloody government papers left in a bin in a public place. I can't believe you don't have a problem at all to this.

Exactly. If he actually felt it was his civic duty, he'd have told the WHITE HOUSE, not the reporters.

What, so they can cover up their cock-up?

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They're still fucking official papers. It doesn't matter that they're not 'Confidential'. They're still bloody government papers left in a bin in a public place. I can't believe you don't have a problem at all to this.

Well that is your perogative. I do not have a problem with this whatsoever. It wasn't classified and wether or not it was official papers makes no difference.

To me, one of the most deplorable angles of the story is the fascination with the fact that the "finder" is an ex-con. In the US, once one has served his punishment, aren't we to believe that he deserves a second chance? Why is it important that he is an ex-con? Certainly, I can understand how the info applies if he has been found (or suspected of) doing something illegal. But when the actions in question were honorable? What significance is his former criminal history? Why mention it?

Well that is your perogative. I do not have a problem with this whatsoever. It wasn't classified and wether or not it was official papers makes no difference.

It's like hitting a brick wall. Look, they could have been the CIA Cafeteria Menu, but they are still official government papers. Placed in a public place where anyone could (And did) find them. And hell, they weren't menu's; they were details of the President's trip, Classified or not. Don't you find it more than a tad worrying that official papers, no matter how unconfidential, found their way into a public area and were picked up by Joe Public? Not to mention who actually did it, and how they could have been even more important files.

It's like hitting a brick wall. Look, they could have been the CIA Cafeteria Menu, but they are still official government papers. Placed in a public place where anyone could (And did) find them. And hell, they weren't menu's; they were details of the President's trip, Classified or not. Don't you find it more than a tad worrying that official papers, no matter how unconfidential, found their way into a public area and were picked up by Joe Public? Not to mention who actually did it, and how they could have been even more important files.

To answer your question, no, I do not find it more than a tad worrying that official papers, not matter how unconfidential were made public.

*shrugs* Since no laws were broken, I do not care.

To answer your question, no, I do not find it more than a tad worrying that official papers, not matter how unconfidential were made public.

*shrugs* Since no laws were broken, I do not care.

Yes, no laws were broken. The point is, they could have been confidential. The fact that any official government papers made it to the public via someone within the government putting them in a bin is surely worrying, since they could have actually been confidential?

HAHA! Oh brother. Bush has done nothing impeachable and has not broken any laws. Nothing to impeach him on.
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I guess then you need to ask which incompetent bufoons applied an inappropriate security rating... :p

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Hey, I nearly got that in a US Bookshop!

Yes, no laws were broken. The point is, they could have been confidential.

could've yea. And it actually should have been. But the point is, they weren't. Since they weren't classified we have the right to know.

The fact that any official government papers made it to the public via someone within the government putting them in a bin is surely worrying, since they could have actually been confidential?

*shrugs* I do not care. really don't. I cannot believe that this is getting as much play as it is. Alwell.

could've yea. And it actually should have been. But the point is, they weren't. Since they weren't classified we have the right to know.



*shrugs* I do not care. really don't. I cannot believe that this is getting as much play as it is. Alwell.

Hmm even if it was Clinton?

If you can afford it, feel free to order this booklet:
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So where's the booklet?

Hmm even if it was Clinton?

Even if it was him.

Corneliu - albeit in his usual tedious, Bush-licking, witless manner has actually made a rather good point about the freedom of information.

Good thing a patriot found them. If Osama's friends got their hands on that, who knows what would happen?

Corneliu - albeit in his usual tedious, Bush-licking, witless manner has actually made a rather good point about the freedom of information.

There's releasing them via the 'net and offices, and then leaving them in bins. I know which one I prefer...

There's releasing them via the 'net and offices, and then leaving them in bins. I know which one I prefer...

Indeed - rummaging in bins is so much more fun.

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Indeed - rummaging in bins is so much more fun.

[/stinky anarcho-f00l]

So, the Bush administration is just cutting out the middleman and dumping them into the public arena?

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