NationStates Jolt Archive


SIGH! Muslims and Christian fundamenalists going at it again.

Eutrusca
09-05-2006, 22:07
COMMENTARY: A war of words, or something more serious?


Palestinian Religious Leader
Blasts Christian Zionists (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200605/INT20060509d.html)


By Julie Stahl
CNSNews.com Jerusalem Bureau Chief
May 09, 2006

Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) - A supreme judge of the Palestinian shari'a court system says Christian Zionists have adopted "Satan as God" and are trying to destroy Islam and Muslims.

In an article posted on the official Palestinian Authority website of the shari'a courts, Hamed R.B. Al-Tamimi blasted the Christian Zionist movement because, he charged, it "supports the Zionist enemy [Israel] and unconditionally opposes Islam and the Muslims."

(A translation of the article was provided by the Palestinian Media Watch, an independent media watchdog.)

Christian Zionists belong to Catholic, Protestant and Evangelical churches throughout the world and are among Israel's most faithful supporters.

They believe that the modern State of Israel is a fulfillment of biblical promises and prophecies that the Jewish people would return to the land they consider to be their eternal, divine inheritance.

In the United States, many Christian Zionists are politically conservative Evangelical Christians.

"Their association and their organizations, headed by The International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem, carry out their criminal activities against the Palestinian issue and the Palestinian people," Al-Tamimi said in the article.

Al-Tamimi, appointed to his post by P.A. Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah faction, also accused Christian Zionists of leading the push to create the State of Israel. And he said they are spearheading current British and U.S. policies toward the P.A., Iraq, Afghanistan and other Arab and Muslim countries.

"They [Christian Zionists] are a group who adopted Satan as God who drives their crazy nature. They have praised depravity and cursed virtue, they have turned the moral scale upside down," he said.

The ICEJ, which represents millions of Christians worldwide, issued a low-key response to the article, saying it had borne the brunt of similar "baseless and embittered criticisms" in the past from both official and unofficial Palestinian sources.

"We prefer to ignore them and continue undeterred with our biblical mandate to 'comfort' the Jewish people," said David Parsons, ICEJ media director.

"The ICEJ maintains that Christians can promote peace in the Holy Land by supporting Israel's right to live in peace and security" so Israel can "peacefully negotiate with her Palestinian and Arab neighbors all the difficult issues facing the region," Parsons said in a statement.

While the ICEJ sympathizes with the plight of the Palestinians, he said, "This should not lead anyone to take strident anti-Israel or anti-Semitic positions."

Hamas, Fatah share the same religious ideology

Itamar Marcus, director of Palestinian Media Watch, said this is not the first time that P.A. officials have blasted Christian Zionists. He noted that Al-Tamimi has the support of Abbas' Fatah faction.

Marcus noted that the religious ideology of Hamas and the PLO (Fatah) is the one and the same: They are all "planning to destroy us," he said.

It was the Fatah-led P.A. that published Palestinian textbooks and ran Palestinian television shows full of hatred for Israel, Marcus said.

Marcus said he fears that if the Hamas government falls and Abbas' Fatah faction sweeps back into power, the international community will be so glad to be rid of Hamas that it might give Abbas everything he asks for. "That's the real danger," he said.
The Black Forrest
09-05-2006, 22:33
COMMENTARY: A war of words, or something more serious?


Just a wacknut spouting off.

If you ever read about the Church of the Holy Sepulcher being attacked then.....
Eutrusca
09-05-2006, 22:36
If you ever read about the Church of the Holy Sepulcher being attacked then.....
I wouldn't be surprised.
Kamsaki
09-05-2006, 22:36
In all fairness to them, Zionists are indeed trying to destroy them, and everyone else, for that matter, by pushing the prophecies of the end times into fulfilment. They're a messed up lot. Then again, it's not like the Palistianian Islamists are much better.
Eutrusca
09-05-2006, 22:42
In all fairness to them, Zionists are indeed trying to destroy them, and everyone else, for that matter, by pushing the prophecies of the end times into fulfilment. They're a messed up lot. Then again, it's not like the Palistianian Islamists are much better.
Any documentation of this?
Bolol
09-05-2006, 22:49
It may just be that I'm not feeling particularly well right now...But I'm tired of these goddamn pretentious, arrogant shitmongers.

If I hear one more motherfucker spout off about the "Zionist Conspiracy", or the "Great Satan" or the "Heathens" or any other ethnically and religiously motivated statement...God, damn it!
Kamsaki
09-05-2006, 23:03
Any documentation of this?
A couple of these.

http://christianactionforisrael.org/czionism.html
http://www.israelmybeloved.com/channel/history_prophecy

Plus, of course, the neutral observer:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_isra.htm
Ifreann
09-05-2006, 23:06
Meh, as long as both religions exist their respective fundamentalists will go on about how the others are all teh evil. The solution is to gather up all the fundamentlaists and extremists and drop them in the ocean. This will make a fundie island, where the ones who survived can bitch among themselves about who's worshipping the right god, and the rest of the world can go in in peace.
The Black Forrest
09-05-2006, 23:09
In all fairness to them, Zionists are indeed trying to destroy them, and everyone else, for that matter, by pushing the prophecies of the end times into fulfilment. They're a messed up lot. Then again, it's not like the Palistianian Islamists are much better.

You might want to drop the "everyone else," You know that isn't true.....
Kamsaki
09-05-2006, 23:10
You might want to drop the "everyone else," You know that isn't true.....
Well, yeah, okay. The Christians and Jews are fine. It's everyone else that are the "everyone else" in this case.

... Which was far more convoluted than it needed to be. >_>
Eutrusca
09-05-2006, 23:11
It may just be that I'm not feeling particularly well right now...But I'm tired of these goddamn pretentious, arrogant shitmongers.

If I hear one more motherfucker spout off about the "Zionist Conspiracy", or the "Great Satan" or the "Heathens" or any other ethnically and religiously motivated statement...God, damn it!
LOL! Jeeze, man. Calm down a'fore ya break sumfin! :p
Freising
09-05-2006, 23:18
Zionists are Jewish.
Ifreann
09-05-2006, 23:19
Zionists are Jewish.
And the Poster's Award for outstanding achievement in the field of Stating The Obvious goes to..........
Freising
09-05-2006, 23:23
And the Poster's Award for outstanding achievement in the field of Stating The Obvious goes to..........

Well, read the article, it says "Christian Zionists." that's like saying extreme Jewish Christians. Doesn't make any sense.
Kamsaki
09-05-2006, 23:42
Well, read the article, it says "Christian Zionists." that's like saying extreme Jewish Christians. Doesn't make any sense.
There is a movement calling themselves Christian Zionists. Check out my links earlier to learn a little about them.
Bolol
10-05-2006, 01:07
LOL! Jeeze, man. Calm down a'fore ya break sumfin! :p

No way man, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore! The fuckers must PAY! Scloobles!

*passes out*