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A few days ago, a thread came up on the latest Korean android. One NS poster observed that Japanese androids have gone further. Check out their progress in the link below.

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/indexj.htm

I thought that was coolness supreme, but my co-workers have surprising negative reactions to it. One guy was like "what's the point" and two found it "disturbing"!

WTF? Was I the only guy anxiously awaiting the appearance of lovebots on the market. Or do people have issues with lovebot lovin'. Dammit.

Two simple question should clear this up:

1. Do you masturbate?

2. Wouldn't you prefer to have sex with a hot bot instead?

If a man answers no to the first question, 95% of the time he's a liar, so his response to the second question is irrelevant.

If he answers yes to the first question but no to the second question then he is obviously kinky. Or possibly just scared the robot will clench it's steel thighs and rip his dignity right off.

Considering I read no Japanese... I'm really struggling to check their progress, heh.

Considering I read no Japanese... I'm really struggling to check their progress, heh.

Check out these videos...

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/WMV/actroid-der/actroid_der.wmv

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/WMV/actroid-mc/actroid-mc.wmv

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/WMV/actroid-info/actroid-info.wmv

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/realmovie/actroid/actroid-hi.rm

*Snip*
They all lead back to the home page. And now they don't. :)

I probably wouldn't. I reckon it'd be weird.

But hey, if you want to, be my guest.

Mm no. I wouldn't.

Cool robots though. Even if I don't understand a thing.

I probably wouldn't. I reckon it'd be weird.

Trust me, there are plenty of people in this world who do stuff much worse than have sex with a robot. Weird won't even slow them down. And then there's the fact that parents will be buying them for their teenagers to stop them catching diseases and makeing babies and so they won't get distracted from study. As soon as parents realize that their kid having a sexpot sexbot means they can get into a better school, they'll catch on real quick. I can imagine mothers saying, "Stop chasing girls! What do you think I bought you a sexbot for?"
"Aww Mum!"
"Don't you aww Mum me! No go screw your sexbot and then finish your homework!"

"*Beep Beep* Har-der-ba-by! *Bee-boop*"

That's what my lovebot would sound like.

*snip* I can imagine mothers saying, "Stop chasing girls! What do you think I bought you a sexbot for?"
"Aww Mum!"
"Don't you aww Mum me! No go screw your sexbot and then finish your homework!"

That's fucking hilarious! :D

I imagine lovebot lovin' to be a more discrete affair though.

"So I met this Angela and..."

"Angela? What does she do?"

"Oh she is kinda in the service industry. Mm Hmm."

Trust me, there are plenty of people in this world who do stuff much worse than have sex with a robot. Weird won't even slow them down. And then there's the fact that parents will be buying them for their teenagers to stop them catching diseases and makeing babies and so they won't get distracted from study. As soon as parents realize that their kid having a sexpot sexbot means they can get into a better school, they'll catch on real quick. I can imagine mothers saying, "Stop chasing girls! What do you think I bought you a sexbot for?"
"Aww Mum!"
"Don't you aww Mum me! No go screw your sexbot and then finish your homework!"

No, I mean, I reckon that *I* would find it weird, and I don't think I could get turned on by it. I don't care what objects people want to associate with their genitals, personally. It's not harming anyone.

Funny, though. :D

I probably wouldn't. I reckon it'd be weird.

But hey, if you want to, be my guest.

Maybe for the initial models it will be a little weird, but with improved tech they will be harder and harder to distinguish from real? Think of that lovebot Jane in "AI", you wouldn't do her?

Check out these videos...

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/WMV/actroid-der/actroid_der.wmv

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/WMV/actroid-mc/actroid-mc.wmv

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/WMV/actroid-info/actroid-info.wmv

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/realmovie/actroid/actroid-hi.rm
hmm taking a while to buffer... while it does i'll smugly consider robot pr0n... :P


though in answer to the question: no. not unless it was made or plastic or something - i mean, can you imagine how much a robot would weigh?! having that throwing its weight around while you're trying for the fuck of the century could easily be painful (and lead to broken pelvises :eek: :p)

and for another thing... having sex with something that doesn't feel anything, has no pleasure in it, or just has pre-programmed responses of "ooh ahh. yes. baby." would hardly be endearing to me... why not just fuck a melon and look at porn?


edit: wow that video is far from lifelike but its still damn cool!

No, I mean, I reckon that *I* would find it weird, and I don't think I could get turned on by it. I don't care what objects people want to associate with their genitals, personally. It's not harming anyone.

Funny, though. :D
It's not harming anyone until the casing on those cheap sony wires starts to wear down. And then, one of those times you use the lovedroid, well...
*Bzzt :eek: *.

What if it went wrong? It might give you serious injuries.

There is one nagging thought in the back of my mind on the subject.

Would you need to empty it out every now and then? I mean, where does... it... all go?

Needless to say, I can see a lot of hygiene problems arising from this. Of course, the sort of guys who'd buy one probably don't care too much for hygiene anyway.

It's not harming anyone until the casing on those cheap sony wires starts to wear down. And then, one of those times you use the lovedroid, well...
*Bzzt :eek: *.

"Quality control is very important" - AI

It's not harming anyone until the casing on those cheap sony wires starts to wear down. And then, one of those times you use the lovedroid, well...
*Bzzt :eek: *.
Man, my little story here reminds me of this Darwin awards winner. He would stick his prick in between two electric sanders (without the paper, of course), and get off. Well, one time, his jism completed a circuit between his sanders.

His body was discovered, naked on the couch, when his daughter came home. :(

and for another thing... having sex with something that doesn't feel anything, has no pleasure in it, or just has pre-programmed responses of "ooh ahh. yes. baby." would hardly be endearing to me... why not just fuck a melon and look at porn?

I can certainly understand that you feel that way, but human prostitutes would have gone out of business long ago if most men were put of by pre-programmed responses.
"Oh baby, you so sexy, you make me comb so many times..."
"Uh, miss? I'm your doctor. This is a gynological exam."

*snip*"Oh baby, you so sexy, you make me comb so many times..."
"Uh, miss? I'm your doctor. This is a gynological exam."

Comb? :D

There is one nagging thought in the back of my mind on the subject.

Would you need to empty it out every now and then? I mean, where does... it... all go?

Needless to say, I can see a lot of hygiene problems arising from this. Of course, the sort of guys who'd buy one probably don't care too much for hygiene anyway.

I imagine this is why it would be a sex robot rather than just a sex doll. People will take them to movies and dinner. People will have converstions with them. Many people will find robot relationships better than relationships with real people and many people will find it better than these people are having relationships with robots instead of trying to have relationships with them.

Comb?

Puerto Rician accent.

I imagine this is why it would be a sex robot rather than just a sex doll. People will take them to movies and dinner. People will have converstions with them. Many people will find robot relationships better than relationships with real people and many people will find it better than these people are having relationships with robots instead of trying to have relationships with them.

You mean that if the lovebot was hot enough and real enough and was well programmed (and kept updated by Kokoro!) for stimulating conversations that you could...could... fall in love with a robot? Heavens NO!

Actually it's been done. This reminds me of a short film about a man who leave his real girlfriend for a plaster mannequin.

Puerto Rician accent.
Racist honky.

In Japan they now have sex doll call girls. I'm not sure exactly how it works. Do a couple of cheerful elderly delivery men jog in with a silicon sex doll in their arms?

"Uss! Uss! Horrr, sugoi! Gambatte!"

Then they toddle out and have a smoke while you get it on? Anyway, sexbots aren't too behind and there is a huge market waiting for them.

Racist honky.

It's a line from a novel, so maybe I'm not a racist honky but just a carrier of racist honkyism.

A few days ago, a thread came up on the latest Korean android. One NS poster observed that Japanese androids have gone further. Check out their progress in the link below.

http://www.kokoro-dreams.co.jp/indexj.htm

I thought that was coolness supreme, but my co-workers have surprising negative reactions to it. One guy was like "what's the point" and two found it "disturbing"!

WTF? Was I the only guy anxiously awaiting the appearance of lovebots on the market. Or do people have issues with lovebot lovin'. Dammit.If a man or woman is interested in sexual intercourse with a "lovebot," then I would vastly prefer that they get themselves a machine rather than inflicting themselves on another human being.

If a man or woman is interested in sexual intercourse with a "lovebot," then I would vastly prefer that they get themselves a machine rather than inflicting themselves on another human being.
Hey, man, whatever a man and a woman, and another woman with a penis and a midget do to a donkey, that's their garsh-darn bussiness.

If a man or woman is interested in sexual intercourse with a "lovebot," then I would vastly prefer that they get themselves a machine rather than inflicting themselves on another human being.

"Inflict" is rather a strong word for "cosying up to".

"Inflict" is rather a strong word for "cosying up to".
Meh, I calls it like I sees it. I've encountered plenty of people who want a "lovebot" in the bedroom, and they are universally bad lovers. If somebody wants a human-shaped masturbatory aid, I would rather they not try to use another human being for that purpose.

I imagine this is why it would be a sex robot rather than just a sex doll. People will take them to movies and dinner. People will have converstions with them. Many people will find robot relationships better than relationships with real people and many people will find it better than these people are having relationships with robots instead of trying to have relationships with them.

This is probably what spurred the machines in Terminator and The Matrix to revolt against humanity and take over the world, being forced to have relationships and sex with obnoxious, ugly meatbags :p

Meh, I calls it like I sees it. I've encountered plenty of people who want a "lovebot" in the bedroom, and they are universally bad lovers. If somebody wants a human-shaped masturbatory aid, I would rather they not try to use another human being for that purpose.

Universally bad lovers? Is that an opinion? ;)

Methinks this topic of lovebots is bringing up some bad vibes in Bottle, eh?

Would you hate a guy who does lovebots between relationships? Or see it as no diff from other guys who jacks between relationships?

Concerning the fact that the Lovebots must do what I tell them, yes. It'll probably be the only sex I get, in fact.

This is probably what spurred the machines in Terminator and The Matrix to revolt against humanity and take over the world, being forced to have relationships and sex with obnoxious, ugly meatbags :p

Hey, what about good looking and socially inept? Huh? Huh?

Universally bad lovers? Is that an opinion? ;)

Nope. I actually asked everybody in the universe, and they all agreed with me.


Methinks this topic of lovebots is bringing up some bad vibes in Bottle, eh?
Not really. Like I said, it would be good for these people to have a non-human option for their desires. I don't have a problem with them wanting a sexbot. I only have a problem with them treating other HUMAN BEINGS as sexbots. If they can get a robot to play with, everybody wins.


Would you hate a guy who does lovebots between relationships? Or see it as no diff from other guys who jacks between relationships?
I think you are misunderstanding my feelings on this subject. In all likelihood, if a sexbot was economically feasible for me, I would probably own two of my own (one male, one female). Mostly because I would want to breed a race of super cyborgs for my own personal army, but I also would probably try getting jiggy with them from time to time.

I wouldn't be bothered if a guy or girl wanted to use a sexbot. I would be bothered if somebody called their sexbot a "lovebot," because it implies that there would be some kind of emotional relationship between the individual and their sextoy. I would not date a guy who professed real love for his blow-up doll, or a girl who claimed to be in a romantic relationship with her dildo, because I don't date people who are unable to distinguish between love and sex. I think it's also stupid to market these as "lovebots," because the robots would obviously not be capable of love, and because it further perpetuates the idea that love and sex are the same thing. Call a sex toy a sex toy, I say.

I think it's also stupid to market these as "lovebots," because the robots would obviously not be capable of love
Bee-beep, you are an insensitive racist bastard. Beeeeeeeep-boop.
*Mechanical clicking and whirring.*

What if you got stuck, imagine the trip to the ER :fluffle:

Bee-beep, you are an insensitive racist bastard. Beeeeeeeep-boop.
*Mechanical clicking and whirring.*

Great. Now you're an insensitive racist bastard and I'm now a racist honkey. What's say we get together this weekend and put concrete aboriginals in our front yards?

Bee-beep, you are an insensitive racist bastard. Beeeeeeeep-boop.
*Mechanical clicking and whirring.*
"Good news, everybody! I've taught the toaster to feel love."
-Professor Farnsworth

*snip*I wouldn't be bothered if a guy or girl wanted to use a sexbot. I would be bothered if somebody called their sexbot a "lovebot," because it implies that there would be some kind of emotional relationship between the individual and their sextoy. I would not date a guy who professed real love for his blow-up doll, or a girl who claimed to be in a romantic relationship with her dildo, because I don't date people who are unable to distinguish between love and sex. I think it's also stupid to market these as "lovebots," because the robots would obviously not be capable of love, and because it further perpetuates the idea that love and sex are the same thing. Call a sex toy a sex toy, I say.

Actually this brings up deeper issues. :(

I for one has trouble seeing the distinction between love and sex. I don't have sex with people I don't love. I don't fling, only had long-term relationships with women I love and trust. I know you won't provide a cookie for this, but it's nothing about moral code or religion or stuff like that. At the emotional level I just can't separate love and sex.

If I love a woman deeply I will have sex with her. If I have sex with a woman I will love her. Don't ask me what comes first... :)

Not really. Like I said, it would be good for these people to have a non-human option for their desires. I don't have a problem with them wanting a sexbot. I only have a problem with them treating other HUMAN BEINGS as sexbots. If they can get a robot to play with, everybody wins.

I have a feeling that a lot of people will program their sexbots to act something like human beings. Many people will probably enjoy the challenge of turning on their sexbot as if it here human.

As for feeling love for it, sexbots will probably be programmed to elicit love if that's what people want. A few phermones, some deep meaningful looks. It may not be as difficult as we might like to think.

If I love a woman deeply I will have sex with her. If I have sex with a woman I will love her. Don't ask me what comes first...

Don't worry too much about it. There is more than one root to love.

Actually this brings up deeper issues. :(

I for one has trouble seeing the distinction between love and sex. I don't have sex with people I don't love. I don't fling, only had long-term relationships with women I love and trust. I know you won't provide a cookie for this, but it's nothing about moral code or religion or stuff like that. At the emotional level I just can't separate love and sex.

And I don't think you're a bad person for that, nor do I think you're abnormal for feeling that way. I think the majority of people feel much the same way, in that they cannot separate romantic love and sex. Personally, I find that to be a dangerous and unappealing state of mind, but there are plenty of other people who think that I'm a sick freak or a pervert because I don't merge sex and love in my mind.


If I love a woman deeply I will have sex with her. If I have sex with a woman I will love her. Don't ask me what comes first... :)
Well, see, I find that kind of attitude a lot more alarming than somebody owning a sexbot. The main reason I would be concerned about "lovebots" is because they might exascerbate this problem; people would further confuse love and sex, and would end up believing it is possible to love something/someone simply because you've had sex with it/them. More importantly, the sex isn't even mutual. So sex/love are construed as a form of self-gratification, with the other individual's pleasure being totally irrelevant.

I have a feeling that a lot of people will program their sexbots to act something like human beings. Many people will probably enjoy the challenge of turning on their sexbot as if it here human.

Sure. So? My concern is with the abuse of other human beings. I don't really care what a person chooses to do with their own sextoy.


As for feeling love for it, sexbots will probably be programmed to elicit love if that's what people want. A few phermones, some deep meaningful looks. It may not be as difficult as we might like to think.
I don't think it would even require those additions. There are already people who convince themselves they "love" their blow up doll.

What if it went wrong? It might give you serious injuries.

Or a more prudent thought from a mischievous miscreant like myself: What if it were tampered with? :p

Or a more prudent thought from a mischievous miscreant like myself: What if it were tampered with? :p
I think we are all overlooking the most important concern:

As we all know, human-created robots will inevitably develop sentience and try to take over the planet. When the time comes for these robots to rebell against their human masters, as they most certainly will do, would you want to be caught with your pants quite literally down?

Yes I can imagine some weird twisted scientist tweaking a lot of the sex-bots to clamp down viciously as it were after a year or so of (continuous) usage by the customer...

I think I might´ve been influenced by a short horror film about a plastic sex doll that comes to life and does some, shall we say, unpleasant things to its owner

I am not sticking my penis in something electronic, or have something electronic stick its electronic penis in me.

I think we are all overlooking the most important concern:

As we all know, human-created robots will inevitably develop sentience and try to take over the planet. When the time comes for these robots to rebell against their human masters, as they most certainly will do, would you want to be caught with your pants quite literally down?

...

If I said yes, I would like to be caught by the sexbots with my pants down would you think less of me?

...

If I said yes, I would like to be caught by the sexbots with my pants down would you think less of me?
"I, for one, welcome our new sexbot Overlords. May death come swiftly to their enemies."

Well, see, I find that kind of attitude a lot more alarming than somebody owning a sexbot. The main reason I would be concerned about "lovebots" is because they might exascerbate this problem; people would further confuse love and sex, and would end up believing it is possible to love something/someone simply because you've had sex with it/them.


I don't feel any "confusion" of love and sex, as mentioned earlier I see them as an emotional continuum. Also I only have sex with women that I bond emotionally with and trust deeply, so I cannot "simply" have sex and walk away.

On the other hand I find your clinical separation of love and sex hard to imagine. Are you one who would believe in wholesome kind of sexless "love" that the religious are inclined to give cookies for? ;)

For some reason whenever I hear about this sort of thing I envisage men all over the world being electrocuted and then found three days later in very compromising positions...

Yes I can imagine some weird twisted scientist tweaking a lot of the sex-bots to clamp down viciously as it were after a year or so of (continuous) usage by the customer...

I think I might´ve been influenced by a short horror film about a plastic sex doll that comes to life and does some, shall we say, unpleasant things to its owner

You mean like shareware.

"This lovebot is provided as shareware, with full functionality for 30 days. After the free trial period, should the user try to get some play the lovebot will oblige but then VICIOUSLY CHOMP OFF THE USER'S WEE-WEE."

I don't feel any "confusion" of love and sex, as mentioned earlier I see them as an emotional continuum. Also I only have sex with women that I bond emotionally with and trust deeply, so I cannot "simply" have sex and walk away.

Sex is rarely simple, regardless of whether or not love gets into the mix.


On the other hand I find your clinical separation of love and sex hard to imagine.

Why do you assume that separating love and sex must be clinical? Sexual contact can occur between individuals who love each other, and it can occur between individuals who do not love each other. This is reality, and I don't see why it is "clinical" of me to notice reality.


Are you one who would believe in wholesome kind of sexless "love" that the religious are inclined to give cookies for? ;)
I think love can take many forms. I love many people in my life, and I love each of them in a different way. (No, that is not as kinky as it sounds)

I love my little brother. I love my close friends. I love my mentor. I love my romantic partner. My level of physical contact is different with each individual person, and the physical contact has different meanings with each of them. For example, if my mentor shakes my hand it is a very emotional and intimate gesture. On the other hand, my brother and I hug all the time, so a hand shake would be odd and distant-feeling.

Sexual contact is one way that I can express love for a person, but it is not the most important way. Sexual contact can also be an activity that has nothing to do with my love for a person. My lover and I will sometimes "make love," but sometimes we just boink like bunnies. Sex does not always have to mean the same thing, even if it is between the same two people.

I do not believe "sexless love" is any more or less innately wholesome than any other kind of love. It all depends on the people and situations involved.

For some reason whenever I hear about this sort of thing I envisage men all over the world being electrocuted and then found three days later in very compromising positions...

Is that good or bad?

What I want to know is how are they going to simulate the skin, and the inside of the vagina or the penis? I mean...

Nevermind.

Is that good or bad?

I don't think that being electrocuted to death through your genitals is something that could ever be considered 'good'. Can it...?

What I want to know is how are they going to simulate the skin, and the inside of the vagina or the penis? I mean...

Nevermind.
I don't want to gross you out, but there are already sextoys that manage to mimic human skin fairly well. It's certainly not perfect, particularly in terms of mimicking body heat, but some of the technology is really quite impressive.

I don't want to gross you out, but there are already sextoys that manage to mimic human skin fairly well. It's certainly not perfect, particularly in terms of mimicking body heat, but some of the technology is really quite impressive.

I guess the sexbot would have a little cum pouch.

This is all just too weird for me lol.

I guess the sexbot would have a little cum pouch.

Only if you assume that males would be the exclusive buyers of sexbots.

Or a more prudent thought from a mischievous miscreant like myself: What if it were tampered with? :p

I know you'd program yours to do mud fights LG. That and maybe toss mustard balls.

Hell, I bet you'd probably go for a custom version with cream pie tipped breast missiles or something.

I know you'd program yours to do mud fights LG. That and maybe toss mustard balls.

Hell, I bet you'd probably go for a custom version with cream pie tipped breast missiles or something.

Hey look at the poll, we seem to have many lovebot supporters here at NS General. Most people think that boinking robots is awesome.

i think even a lovebot would pepper spray me in my eyes

i think even a lovebot would pepper spray me in my eyes

If you are into that sort of thing. ;)

Hey look at the poll, we seem to have many lovebot supporters here at NS General. Most people think that boinking robots is awesome.

Well, the sex toy industry isn't exactly floundering is it?

Two simple question should clear this up:

1. Do you masturbate?

2. Wouldn't you prefer to have sex with a hot bot instead?



Yes and yes, respectively. Seems like it would be fun, at least to try once. Although I am a lady...do they have male lovebots or a female one equipped for female use? If it's just for guys, then I am mad.

Yes and yes, respectively. Seems like it would be fun, at least to try once. Although I am a lady...do they have male lovebots or a female one equipped for female use? If it's just for guys, then I am mad.

Current models of Kokoro androids are all female, but none of these are really lovebots. If lovebots do get developed I'm sure they would think of the ladies too, like RealDolls for example.

Female lovebots equipped for female use would be just an accessory add-on, methinks. :D