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Do you think Bush is dooming us all (like I do) or do you think he is helping this country like the presidents before him??????

I want your opion

Poll options are a bit limited

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5909524293293275515&q=George+W.+Bush

Out of your options, the first one, though it seems a little over the top.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5549932049668656463&q=George+W.+Bush

Our country? It's your damn country, and it's still doomed.

He's an awful president, although I wouldn't go so far as to accuse him of dooming the world and everyone in it...

Do you think Bush is dooming us all (like I do) or do you think he is helping this country like the presidents before him??????

I want your opion
He is not only the best ewessayan prez ever, he is the bestst president in the wrold!

And aside from making polls on an internet forum, what are you going to do about it?

Voicing your opinions in a dank little corner of the universe is only effective if it leads to a broad-reaching revolution.

But that would require another war.

George W. Bush seems like the kind of guy I would like to sit on a porch and shoot the breeze with, but not the kind of guy I want as my president.

anarchy

Can't have an opinion of him till he leaves office...other than that, I think he's pretty average.

Can't have an opinion of him till he leaves office...other than that, I think he's pretty average.
Why not?

Why not?
Perhaps a highly respectable lack of professional bias?

George W. Bush seems like the kind of guy I would like to sit on a porch and shoot the breeze with, but not the kind of guy I want as my president.

I wouldn't want to talk with him. What would we talk about?
Sports? Beer? Women? Snorting coke?

All superficial and pointless things that I could get from a far more intelligent and contemplative friend.

I wouldn't want to talk with him. What would we talk about?
Sports? Beer? Women? Snorting coke?

All superficial and pointless things that I could get from a far more intelligent and contemplative friend.
Utterly agreed.
*nods*

Why not?

Because his term isn't over yet; it's equally as possible that Bush's policies could be incredibly successful and farsighted, or could be incredibly damaging and myopic. Although I disagree with him (quite voiciferously at times) on certain policies, issues and actions, I reserve final judgement on both the disputed policies and Bush until I see their final outcome, and that's not usually known until at least after he leaves office.

Didn't we just have a Bush thread a couple of days ago? Oy, the repetitive-ness of NS is really starting to set in.

He's the biggest asshat of a president the USA have had so far.

Do you think Bush is dooming us all (like I do) or do you think he is helping this country like the presidents before him??????

I want your opion
My opinion? Oh Bush? Hmm. Nice guy in person, but too prone to retain cronies as high-level political appointees, and too prone to listen to them about matters of state. In waaaay over his head.

Didn't we just have a Bush thread a couple of days ago? Oy, the repetitive-ness of NS is really starting to set in.
Awww! Poor baby! :D

Originally, my opinion of him was tops, then it SLOWLY but surely went down, and right now, I'm a little upset with him to tell ya the truth. He's WAY to soft on the illegals. He needs to crack down MUCH more on terrorists, and invade Iran. Other then that he's so-so.

Didn't we just have a Bush thread a couple of days ago? Oy, the repetitive-ness of NS is really starting to set in.
The kind of thing that usually inspires people to 'jack them ... ;)

Didn't we just have a Bush thread a couple of days ago? Oy, the repetitive-ness of NS is really starting to set in.
n00b:p

Our country? It's your damn country, and it's still doomed.
What he said.

Bush is doing the world a favor, obviously. He's pointing out to the world just how outmoded and inneffective Neo-conservative policies are.

He doesn't seem like someone I'd get along too well with. He's just not to bright, and his speech impediment would annoy the hell out of me.

Originally, my opinion of him was tops, then it SLOWLY but surely went down, and right now, I'm a little upset with him to tell ya the truth. He's WAY to soft on the illegals. He needs to crack down MUCH more on terrorists, and invade Iran. Other then that he's so-so.

Wow.


Just...wow.

Bush is doing the world a favor, obviously. He's pointing out to the world just how outmoded and inneffective Neo-conservative policies are.

He doesn't seem like someone I'd get along too well with. He's just not to bright, and his speech impediment would annoy the hell out of me.
Perhaps conversation wouldn't work, indeed, but maybe riding bikes or Segways with him? Finished off with a pretzel or two? That'd be worth it. *nods emphatically*

Bush is doing the world a favor, obviously. He's pointing out to the world just how outmoded and inneffective Neo-conservative policies are.

He doesn't seem like someone I'd get along too well with. He's just not to bright, and his speech impediment would annoy the hell out of me.


Agreed, nonetheless, this "pointing out" is coming at a high price, like anything he does.


/Zing.

I wouldn't want to talk with him. What would we talk about?
Sports? Beer? Women? Snorting coke?

International politics of course... ;)

All superficial and pointless things that I could get from a far more intelligent and contemplative friend.

Interesting. Do you often discuss superficial and pointless things with your intelligent and contemplative friends? Because I generally save the superficial and pointless discussions for my stupid friends, and keep the meaningful stuff for my intelligent and contemplative friends.

That poll is as good as asking someone:

"President George W. Bush - great president or the greatest president?"*

If he would only screw up his own country, bad enough - but he's taking it out on the world and that sucks big time.

*Yes, I took that from the Colbert Rebort. So what?

The kind of thing that usually inspires people to 'jack them ... ;)
well, if other people are up for it. :p

well, if other people are up for it. :p
You imply complicitude and subterfuge. We're just simple, mod-abidin' folk here. ;)
Where the hades is Sarkhaan, anyway? He can't be THAT hungover!

Oh, i should answer the OP.
I'm thinking of making a "Greatest sH*ts" en masse post of Bush appreciation, but it'll take a while, since i don't save too many of my own posts. I do save a lot of others' posts though.

I think of George Bush as a faulted caricature of a further faulted caricature, as one with too little brains and sense to match other peoples' esteem of his judgment, too much charisma to match his actual faculty, too little dexterity to match his actual constitution, and too little honor and nobility to match the grievous access he's been granted by name and proxy.

<snip>
I think of George Bush as a faulted caricature of a further faulted caricature, as one with too little brains and sense to match other peoples' esteem of his judgment, too much charisma to match his actual faculty, to little dexterity to match his actual constitution, and too little honor and nobility to match the grievous access he's been granted by name and proxy.
Poetic. :)



I guess I should answer the OP, too. Hardly seems worthwhile. Is there anyone on NS who doesn't know what I think of GWB? I can't decide whether he's a crook or a lunatic or crooked lunatic. All I know is (quoting myself), "I can't stand that miserable son of a bitch."

Originally, my opinion of him was tops, then it SLOWLY but surely went down, and right now, I'm a little upset with him to tell ya the truth. He's WAY to soft on the illegals. He needs to crack down MUCH more on terrorists, and invade Iran. Other then that he's so-so.

Invading Iran = WWIII = good-bye world = all of us DEAD.

Oh, and my opinion of Bush? He is without a doubt one of the worst U.S. Presidents ever. Hell, he's one of the worst politicians ever, period. He has the intelligence of a goddamn toilet seat.

I love when people demonize other people for their political rhetoric...unless you happen to know Bush personally, to say he's a crooked wretch?

Say you disagree with him, say he's doing terrible things, but keep your hate for his politics.

Heaven forbid we allow ourselves to admit that good people do bad things, and vice versa.

Note Napolean.

I love when people demonize other people for their political rhetoric...unless you happen to know Bush personally, to say he's a crooked wretch?

Say you disagree with him, say he's doing terrible things, but keep your hate for his politics.

Heaven forbid we allow ourselves to admit that good people do bad things, and vice versa.

Note Napolean.
Napoleon was a bastard. Bush is incompetent. Cheney is corrupt. I base these conclusions on their career records.

When I say "I can't stand that miserable son of a bitch," it's because I say that about everyone who lies, cheats, steals his way to the top and then can't do the job but won't give it up, and about everyone who sacrifices other people's lives for the sake of his own ambitions.

Napoleon was a bastard. Bush is incompetent. Cheney is corrupt. I base these conclusions on their career records.

When I say "I can't stand that miserable son of a bitch," it's because I say that about everyone who lies, cheats, steals his way to the top and then can't do the job but won't give it up, and about everyone who sacrifices other people's lives for the sake of his own ambitions.

Ah, people who prove my point.

Napoleon was a bastard, but he got his job done, and he did it well. Who's to say that Bush isn't a good person who's just terrible at being the president, and perhaps getting the worst possible advice from every trusted colleague around him?

Everyone who lies, cheats, and steals his way to the top includes everybody in every history book, ever.

If you're going to tell me about sacrificing other people's lives for the sake of ambition, talk to me about every great endeavor mankind has undertaken in all of history. Every facet of your education, every car you've ridden in, every building you've stepped in, every bit of food you've eaten was brought to you on the backs of a thousand sacrificed lives.

Somebody's ambition.

If they're miserable sons of bitches for sacrificing those lives, what are you for forgetting that sacrifice?

Poetic. :)

*blushes*
Thank you. *bows*
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*snipperooni*

As Dilbert so eloquently put it,
"The 'N's don't justify the 'neans'.
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Ah, the weekly Bush thread. If only it was about the African Bush, and not president Bush this time...

i think bush is like one of those tragic figures in tragic operas.

i don't mean that makes him a good president, he's a disasterous crap of a president. what makes him such a tragic figure isn't just what is being done in his name and not without his consent, though i'm not so sure he really understands half of it, but that's just it.

he's little more then a figure head and poster boy, warming the big chair and playing president and he knows it. while being the toy and puppet of forces of evil he pretends to control. knowing also that everyone who isn't a bigger idiot then he is can see this as plain as fresh elephant tracks in old snow.

and yes the policy decisions he signs off on are probably among the biggest tragidies to befal the human species in its entire history.

the living american hamlet, or something of the sort.

=^^=
.../\...

Either he's a complete idiot or a genius from a very clever place, Cambridge, maybe, or Oxford.

:p i saw his plane land in enid, oklahoma yesterday. i was getting ready for the
tri-state band competition.:D

Either he's a complete idiot or a genius from a very clever place, Cambridge, maybe, or Oxford.

he came from TEXAS!!!!

Ah, people who prove my point.

Napoleon was a bastard, but he got his job done, and he did it well. Who's to say that Bush isn't a good person who's just terrible at being the president, and perhaps getting the worst possible advice from every trusted colleague around him?
You said we should assume these people are nice and good. Being competent doesn't make Napoleon a nice person. You agree he was a bastard. Ergo, it is legitimate to say he was a bastard. Thank you for proving my point.

Everyone who lies, cheats, and steals his way to the top includes everybody in every history book, ever.
No, it doesn't. It doesn't include Washington, Ghandi, MLK, King Charles VI of France, or King Charles V of Bohemia, just to name a few off the top of my head, as well as 1000s of scientists and doctors, and 100s of military commanders and ordinary soldiers. History is a lot of people who reach the top of lots of things, including public-esteem-after-the-fact, even if they weren't trying to. This particular attempt to dismiss me is silly.

If you're going to tell me about sacrificing other people's lives for the sake of ambition, talk to me about every great endeavor mankind has undertaken in all of history.
Is this the "the other kids do it too, so why can't I?" argument? It doesn't fly in the playground, and I don't buy it coming from the Whitehouse, either. The fact that there are many miserable sons of bitches in history does not in any way mean that Bush is not a miserable son of a bitch.

Every facet of your education, every car you've ridden in, every building you've stepped in, every bit of food you've eaten was brought to you on the backs of a thousand sacrificed lives.
I ate half a pineapple last week, so that makes it okay for Bush to put 100,000s of US soldiers in harm's way for a political agenda? This is beyond silly. Don't insult yourself by writing such nonsense.

Somebody's ambition.
Yes.

If they're miserable sons of bitches for sacrificing those lives, what are you for forgetting that sacrifice?
How does condemning the man responsible for wasting those lives mean I'm forgetting them? As far as I'm concerned Iraq is an illegal war, and, if this were a perfect world, that would make Bush a murderer of every US soldier killed there. That's my opinion.

he came from TEXAS!!!!
He's from Connecticut -- with a boyhood summer place in Maine. He picked up that Texas accent later.

he came from TEXAS!!!!

Makes the idiocy option much more likely does it not?

he came from TEXAS!!!!
You mean Connecticut?

You mean Connecticut?

We could say that he comes from a derivative of the universal set and have an end of it.

I voted he's dooming the world, I really don't like him and how he became president is very shady, with all that problems that happen with the election at that time. Also I belive he is dangerous, how he's confronting Iran at the momment, about their nuclear reseach.

I voted he's dooming the world, I really don't like him and how he became president is very shady, with all that problems that happen with the election at that time. Also I belive he is dangerous, how he's confronting Iran at the momment, about their nuclear reseach.

Sorry, confronting? That could be taken to mean that he was doing a brave and honourable deed. Deliberately provoking is more the ticket.

Sorry, confronting? That could be taken to mean that he was doing a brave and honourable deed. Deliberately provoking is more the ticket.

Provoking yes, thats what I meant.

We could say that he comes from a derivative of the universal set and have an end of it.
"The set which, in a certain context, contains everything of interest."
And Connecticut would be included in that, how?

"The set which, in a certain context, contains everything of interest."
And Connecticut would be included in that, how?

And in other contexts contains all other sets (everything) and is itself a constituent part of a higher set. Confusing, eh?

And in other contexts contains all other sets (everything) and is itself a constituent part of a higher set. Confusing, eh?
I just don't know if Connecticut should be included in that. It's really not all that interesting.

anarchy

You like anarchy, but I prefer my running water, electrcity, and phone lines.

Either he's a complete idiot or a genius from a very clever place, Cambridge, maybe, or Oxford.

Actually, he attended Yale with a tougher course load than John Kerry and a higher GPA than Kerry as well.

For the President to be dumb... that accusation often comes from people with little to no education (communications degress do not count) such as actors in Hollywood, people on the radio, and college students who think they're getting an education.

He's from Connecticut -- with a boyhood summer place in Maine. He picked up that Texas accent later.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10913734&postcount=49


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Actually, he attended Yale with a tougher course load than John Kerry and a higher GPA than Kerry as well.

For the President to be dumb... that accusation often comes from people with little to no education (communications degress do not count) such as actors in Hollywood, people on the radio, and college students who think they're getting an education.
Hey, stick around sweetie. People like you make a special dynamic for NS. I'm sure you have plenty to back this whopper up.

Actually, he attended Yale with a tougher course load than John Kerry and a higher GPA than Kerry as well.

For the President to be dumb... that accusation often comes from people with little to no education (communications degress do not count) such as actors in Hollywood, people on the radio, and college students who think they're getting an education.

Prove this.

His grades made Harvard Law say no to him. His father went to Yale, so it's obvious he pulled strings to get his dumbass son in.

... that accusation often comes from people with little to no education...

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