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Cindy Shehan is urging Canada to get out of Afghanistan. She seems to think that the US shouldn't be in Afghanistan either. Now I can understand if Canada wants out, but the US must stay and make sure that our enemies don't regain power.

According to Cindy, if a nation attacks you through it's terrorist proxy army you should just let them do whatever they want without any military consequences. Self-defense is immoral. What a fucking fruitcake.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060505.SHEEHAN05/TPStory/National

As I had said before, the Canadians can keep her. If worce comes to worce, they could pawn her off to Britian.

As I had said before, the Canadians can keep her. If worce comes to worce, they could pawn her off to Britian.

Hey! Don't throw all your activists on us. We've got enough activists as it is, without your Americans putting all of yours in our country.

Yeah, pawn her off to Britain or something.

As I had said before, the Canadians can keep her. If worce comes to worce, they could pawn her off to Britian.
This is revenge for when we shipped you Celine Dion, isn't it?

Hey! Don't throw all your activists on us. We've got enough activists as it is, without your Americans putting all of yours in our country.

Yeah, pawn her off to Britain or something.

Hey, don't look at us! We are still hurting from when you pawned Celine Dion off on us!

Hey, don't look at us! We are still hurting from when you pawned Celine Dion off on us!
I beat you to it! BWAHAHAHAHAHA:D

You know, if people would stop making such a big deal about her- you would realise- NO ONE CARES WHAT SHE SAYS.

This is revenge for when we shipped you Celine Dion, isn't it?

Looks like you beat me to it, but.....yes.

Hey, don't look at us! We are still hurting from when you pawned Celine Dion off on us!
You guys wanted it. We all know it. Secretly, you are all in love with her, even though none of you would ever admit it...well, some would admit it, actually.

You know, if people would stop making such a big deal about her- you would realise- NO ONE CARES WHAT SHE SAYS.
Nobody but ageing hippies and ignorant kids care about what she says anyway. This is the only thread I've ever made about her and only because she seems to think that our nation shouldn't defend it's citizens. That level of idiocy draws me like a moth to a severely retarded flame.

but the US must stay and make sure that our enemies don't regain power.

too late

Hey! Don't throw all your activists on us. We've got enough activists as it is, without your Americans putting all of yours in our country.

Yeah, pawn her off to Britain or something.

You give us to her and we'll retaliate in kind!



We'll give you Nick Griffin.

she seems to think that our nation shouldn't defend it's citizens.

defense requires the permanent occupation of countries on the other side of the planet?

You give us to her and we'll retaliate in kind!



We'll give you Nick Griffin.

Good god! Who in the hell is Nick Griffin?! :eek:

You give us to her and we'll retaliate in kind!



We'll give you Nick Griffin.
That's not retaliation. He'd fit right in.

Good god! Who in the hell is Nick Griffin?! :eek:

Leader of the BNP.

defense requires the permanent occupation of countries on the other side of the planet?
Who said we need to be there permanently?

That's not retaliation. He'd fit right in.

Yeah, who'd notice one more extremist?


Okay, okay. We'll retaliate with Noel Edmonds!

Who said we need to be there permanently?

Who said Iraq was actually a threat to the US?

That level of idiocy draws me like a moth to a severely retarded flame.
Since when can a flame be retarded?

Who said Iraq was actually a threat to the US?
We're talking of Afghanistan here, not Iraq.

Who said Iraq was actually a threat to the US?

Why are you bringing Iraq into a conversation about Afghanistan?


Iraq and Afghanistan are two very different issues. I've always been against going into Iraq. There was no good reason for it. As for Afghanistan, I was all in favor of just destroying the country to punish them and set an example for other potential enemies, but since our government has decided to "reform" them, we've got to stay until it's a modern, liberal, peaceful nation.

Yeah, who'd notice one more extremist?


Okay, okay. We'll retaliate with Noel Edmonds!
:eek:

Who's that?

Yeah, who'd notice one more extremist?


Okay, okay. We'll retaliate with Noel Edmonds!

Again, who is that? Next time you think of people to retaliate with, put a little description with them.

Since when can a flame be retarded?
Douse Cindy Shehan with gasoline and set her on fire and you'll see.

Since when can a flame be retarded?

Did he mean... "A severely retarded moth to a flame"? Well, it could work both ways I suppose.

Why are you bringing Iraq into a conversation about Afghanistan?


Iraq and Afghanistan are two very different issues. I've always been against going into Iraq. There was no good reason for it. As for Afghanistan, I was all in favor of just destroying the country to punish them and set an example for other potential enemies, but since our government has decided to "reform" them, we've got to stay until it's a modern, liberal, peaceful nation.

Apologies. I've been reading too many threads on Iraq. I must have mentally replaced it with Afghanistan. I withdraw the comment.

:eek:

Who's that?

Crap. I can't think of anyone famous enough that matches that woman.


Noel Edmond: Cheesy presenter of an annoying saturday-night quiz game called Deal Or No Deal.

Crap. I can't think of anyone famous enough that matches that woman.


Noel Edmond: Cheesy presenter of an annoying saturday-night quiz game called Deal Or No Deal.

Tony Blair? The Americans probably won't care though.

Tony Blair? The Americans probably won't care though.

Okay. One you'll all get. John Prescott. Like Clinotn, but without even a tyrace of winning personality and with absolutely no sex appeal. We'll even add in Charles Clarke for free.

Douse Cindy Shehan with gasoline and set her on fire and you'll see.
:eek:


*Falls off to the floor, laughing*

Okay. One you'll all get. John Prescott. Like Clinotn, but without even a tyrace of winning personality and with absolutely no sex appeal. We'll even add in Charles Clarke for free.
Now you're getting somewhere.

Who said we need to be there permanently?

so your disagreement with her is that you think 5 years isn't long enough for u.s. to occupy a country, while she think that the u.s. occupation has gone on too long already. what exactly is the crazy part?

Okay. One you'll all get. John Prescott. Like Clinotn, but without even a tyrace of winning personality and with absolutely no sex appeal. We'll even add in Charles Clarke for free.
:eek:

They ARE for the Americans, right?

Does anybody else think that Sheehan's son would be pretty pissed off at what is mother is doing if he knew?

:eek:

They ARE for the Americans, right?

That's ok, we can just throw em into California with all the other retards.

On second thought, we can send you Fred Phelps in return. Every country needs a insane homophobe churchleader...and we have three.

And Kievan-Prussia, if my mother turned my death into a political bashfest like she has, I would be pissed.

You know, if people would stop making such a big deal about her- you would realise- NO ONE CARES WHAT SHE SAYS.

It's like in 1984. If a lone individual travels out into the woods where noone will hear him and scribbles on a piece of paper "down with big brother," and then burns it, well that person is still seen as a dire threat to Ingsoc.

That's ok, we can just throw em into California with all the other retards.

And Kievan-Prussia, if my mother turned my death into a political bashfest like she has, I would be pissed.

Better that it be turned into the political cock-sucking that Jessica Lynch's "rescue," was?

so your disagreement with her is that you think 5 years isn't long enough for u.s. to occupy a country, while she think that the u.s. occupation has gone on too long already. what exactly is the crazy part?
My disagreement with her is that she doesn't believe it's morally acceptable to destroy our nation's enemies. She seems to think that Al Qaeda and their Taliban allies should be forgiven for attacking the USA and allowed to retake Afghanistan. I think those who attack the USA should be eliminated.

Does anybody else think that Sheehan's son would be pretty pissed off at what is mother is doing if he knew?
He's in a better place now. Anywhere is better if it's far away from her.

Cindy Shehan tries to spread her particular brand of crazy to canucks.

They can have her.

My disagreement with her is that she doesn't believe it's morally acceptable to destroy our nation's enemies. She seems to think that Al Qaeda and their Taliban allies should be forgiven for attacking the USA and allowed to retake Afghanistan.

and what do you base this on? her claim that the occupation isn't accomplishing much other than lining the pockets of war profitteers and allowing the drug lords and taliban to rule the country anyway, all without actually rebuilding much of anything?

Okay. One you'll all get. John Prescott. Like Clinotn, but without even a tyrace of winning personality and with absolutely no sex appeal. We'll even add in Charles Clarke for free.

That sounds like Hillary Clinton. No thanks... I shudder just looking at her.

and what do you base this on? her claim that the occupation isn't accomplishing much other than lining the pockets of war profitteers and allowing the drug lords and taliban to rule the country anyway, all without actually rebuilding much of anything?
Her claim that we should just pack up and go home with Al Qaeda and taliban forces waiting in the countryside to take over again. She wants us to basically hand Afghanistan back to those who attacked us instead of making it a place where they cannot opperate or eradicating them. She wants to surrender to the enemy who attacked us rather than working toward victory. In short, she's embraced victimhood and slave mentality. "Please don't hit me any more master. I've learned that it's futile to fight back" should be her slogan.

Cindy Shehan is urging Canada to get out of Afghanistan. She seems to think that the US shouldn't be in Afghanistan either. Now I can understand if Canada wants out, but the US must stay and make sure that our enemies don't regain power.

According to Cindy, if a nation attacks you through it's terrorist proxy army you should just let them do whatever they want without any military consequences. Self-defense is immoral. What a fucking fruitcake.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060505.SHEEHAN05/TPStory/National
You have certainly not read the same article that you posted? You have definitely embellished her words and totally twisted the context of the story.

and what do you base this on? her claim that the occupation isn't accomplishing much other than lining the pockets of war profitteers and allowing the drug lords and taliban to rule the country anyway, all without actually rebuilding much of anything?


Damnit, Free Soviets! There is a time and place for the truth, and this isn't it!
How dare you try to derail this thread in such a way, you crazy sexy bastard?

Damnit, Free Soviets! There is a time and place for the truth, and this isn't it!
How dare you try to derail this thread in such a way, you crazy sexy bastard?
Refused Party Program and Free Soviets sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g.

*runs away in fear of beatings*

*runs away in fear of beatings*

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.
gah. Please stop beating me. I'll stop chanting, I promise!

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At least they found Osama's niece!! :)

what the fuck, canuck?

hey, that rhymed! *dances*

http://pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/images/wafuhgif.gif

At least they found Osama's niece!! :)
I'm glad that pic doesn't work. She looks like Osama with a shave. I'd rather fuck a camel.

EDIT: Damn, picture started working. Excuse me while I go wash out my eyes.

what the fuck, canuck?

hey, that rhymed! *dances*
Wat' you talkin' about Ladame du spam?
Da niece of the Al-Queda imam?

Also rhymes.....*tries to dance.....*trips.....*falls

I'm glad that pic doesn't work. She looks like Osama with a shave. I'd rather fuck a camel.

EDIT: Damn, picture started working. Excuse me while I go wash out my eyes.
Come on man.....what is wrong with ya?

http://www.gg2.net/upload/dufour11032006.jpg

Besides, I heard that camels bite.....

What would her son think of her? What a loaded, cowardly line of questioning. You can't debate her points so you attack her with presumed words of dead loved ones.

And besides that, there are plenty of Soldiers who think these wars are full of shit.

The point is that the US should leave these countries and let the people there govern them how they want. We have no moral authority to stand on over there, even before all the prisoner abuse scandals. We terrorist-trained Osama and the Taliban in the 80s to fight the Soviets. We never cared who they were killing or oppressing as long as they followed our orders. The same goes with Iraq, the two countries are exactly similar.

And claims that we will not be there forever are misleading at best. There have been several claims of the US building several large permanent military bases. Also if you look into our past, we never leave. We have a military presence all over the world to ensure our corporations can take what they want.

Cindy Shehan is urging Canada to get out of Afghanistan. She seems to think that the US shouldn't be in Afghanistan either. Now I can understand if Canada wants out, but the US must stay and make sure that our enemies don't regain power.

According to Cindy, if a nation attacks you through it's terrorist proxy army you should just let them do whatever they want without any military consequences. Self-defense is immoral. What a fucking fruitcake.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060505.SHEEHAN05/TPStory/National
800 Canadians died in those attacks as well.

defense requires the permanent occupation of countries on the other side of the planet?
Since Afghanistan already has its own government, the occupation doesn't look all that permanent. If the Taliban and similar elements would stop trying to take power back, the US probably would leave.

Iraq and Afghanistan are two very different issues. I've always been against going into Iraq. There was no good reason for it. As for Afghanistan, I was all in favor of just destroying the country to punish them and set an example for other potential enemies, but since our government has decided to "reform" them, we've got to stay until it's a modern, liberal, peaceful nation.
"Just destroying a country" is always a stupid idea. It just breeds a nation of extremists who hate you, so 15 years later you have a repeat of 9/11. You've got to destroy the country, and educate its population in why they should never want to attack you.

Okay. One you'll all get. John Prescott. Like Clinotn, but without even a tyrace of winning personality and with absolutely no sex appeal.
Not quite, he's more like Clinton with less smile and more punching.

so your disagreement with her is that you think 5 years isn't long enough for u.s. to occupy a country, while she think that the u.s. occupation has gone on too long already. what exactly is the crazy part?
If the US had been running an effective occupation of Afghanistan instead of wasting their troops on Iraq, they would probably no longer need to be there.

It's like in 1984. If a lone individual travels out into the woods where noone will hear him and scribbles on a piece of paper "down with big brother," and then burns it, well that person is still seen as a dire threat to Ingsoc.
You're paranoid. That doesn't seem to apply to those of us who bash the US government online every day. The members of this forum do not get hunted down for being dire threats to the nation.

Come on man.....what is wrong with ya?

http://www.gg2.net/upload/dufour11032006.jpg

Besides, I heard that camels bite.....
Look at her face. I know it's hard with the soft-focus lense they have to use on her so as not to blind the viewing public, but she looks like a guy in the face. I stand by my "rather fuck a camel" response.

What would her son think of her? What a loaded, cowardly line of questioning. You can't debate her points so you attack her with presumed words of dead loved ones.

And besides that, there are plenty of Soldiers who think these wars are full of shit.

The point is that the US should leave these countries and let the people there govern them how they want. We have no moral authority to stand on over there, even before all the prisoner abuse scandals. We terrorist-trained Osama and the Taliban in the 80s to fight the Soviets. We never cared who they were killing or oppressing as long as they followed our orders. The same goes with Iraq, the two countries are exactly similar.
And claims that we will not be there forever are misleading at best. There have been several claims of the US building several large permanent military bases. Also if you look into our past, we never leave. We have a military presence all over the world to ensure our corporations can take what they want.
The bolded part of your post shows that you know nothing of the two countries.

1) We didn't train Iraq to fight the soviets. In fact, Saddam's army used Soviet weapons.

2) The countries are absolutely not similar.

a) Iraq was secluar. That's why we should have left it alone. Afghanistan was home to a repressive theocracy that used Al Qaeda as it's proxy army.

b) Iraq is an arab nation, Afghanistan isn't. Different culture.

c) Afghanistan's terrorist proxy army attacked us. Iraq would have been thrilled to work with us.

Our military doesn't really work to expand overseas corporate interests anymore. It did in the past, look at Guatemala and Hawaii, but we don't fight fruit wars anymore.