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From what I’ve heard described of the modern day Emerald Isle, it sounds like a painfully uncomfortable place to live.
Is this in any way accurate?

Republic or Northern?

Republic or Northern?
The Republic. I'd have said Ulster otherwise.

The Republic. I'd have said Ulster otherwise.
Well, some of Ulster is in the Republic...

From what I’ve heard described of the modern day Emerald Isle, it sounds like a painfully uncomfortable place to live.
Is this in any way accurate?

*snorts*

Em, why perchance?

You're are right. With all the violence that is going on over absolutely pointless religious issues....its like a civil war...but doesn't recieve the full attention of it.

I'm still wondering what this thread was about....

I'm still wondering what this thread was about....

Me too. Has Undelia heard rumour of some cushion famine which has been hushed up at the highest levels of the Dáil?

my image of ireland (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/infiniterevolution/NewBitmapImage.jpg) :p

As my old mammy always says there is no war in ireland......(meaning northern ireland is a different country and should not be dumped in with the rest of the island).....

As my old mammy always says there is no war in ireland......(meaning northern ireland is a different country and should not be dumped in with the rest of the island).....

So the 33 people killed by the bombs in Dublin and Monagahan were technically victims of a bloody peace?

So the 33 people killed by the bombs in Dublin and Monagahan were technically victims of a bloody peace?.....
And when exactly did that happen?...today, yeserday, last week...i'm sure the original post was about Ireland today...or am I misunderstanding the term Modern day..?

.....
And when exactly did that happen?...today, yeserday, last week...i'm sure the original post was about Ireland today...or am I misunderstanding the term Modern day..?

'74, and I'm refering to your mother's homespun (ahem) 'wisdom', not the OP.

'74.
Kinda proves my point, as '74 is over three decades ago, it's hardly modern day is it?

My image of Ireland is pretty much like this:
http://www.geraldbrimacombe.com/UK%20-Ireland/Ireland%20-%20Ballinskelligs%20Bay%20-%20Ring%20of%20Kerry.jpg

Lots of green and prettiness. :D

Kinda proves my point, as '74 is over three decades ago, it's hardly modern day is it?

Yes, it is. We people of Ireland have long memories: we are still pissed off about the sieges of Drogheda and Derry, nevermind the C20th.

Yes, it is. We people of Ireland have long memories: we are still pissed off about the sieges of Drogheda and Derry, nevermind the C20th.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were n'gaelige as well...it just pisses me off when outsiders lump the lunarcy of the north with the rest of uswithout actually going to ireland to find out....
E.G. on a st. patricks day parade in new york.....my mother was asked to join the leish contingent....several of the americans noting her accent asked if she had been to the old country....yes says she, I was there only two weeks ago.....gosh says they, you must be very brave...what with the war going on there....???

Not at all. I liked what I saw for the most part. It's a different flow and attitude then the US. However, it's not a place to avoid. Well maybe Waterford. That place was nothing.

Me too. Has Undelia heard rumour of some cushion famine which has been hushed up at the highest levels of the Dáil?

OMG! :eek:

Maybe would could have some sort of home decorating charity drive for you. ;)

This is my image of Ireland. :)

http://www.tipos.com.br/media/11/20030928-Guinness1.jpg

From what I’ve heard described of the modern day Emerald Isle, it sounds like a painfully uncomfortable place to live.
Is this in any way accurate?

Painfully uncomfortable in what way?
It can be a pain in the ass that the busses are never on time, but then that may have to do with the fact that they don't seem to have fixed times, either.

:confused:

I don't see how it could be considered painful. Most of Ireland - Northern and the Republic - isn't really that different from any other European country as far as I can see (aside from the bloody weather). Essentially the same rights as anywhere else in Europe*.

There's still some sore wounds after the Troubles, but we live in relative peace - and the North has one of the lowest crime rates in western Europe, not to mention one of the most successful education systems in the world.

* Aside from abortion - that's unfortunately illegal across the whole of Ireland. However, since 1992 in the RoI, it has been perfectly constitutionally legal to travel elsewhere for this service. As part of the UK, I would imagine this has been legal in NI since 1967 when abortion was legalised in Great Britain.

My mum always gave me the impression that Ireland is full of friendly people. Pfft!

A bit dull; too bloody religious; slightly hostile, though perhaps this is primarily towards the wandering Englishman; although, having said that, I (to my great surprise :) ) did not see one ugly person while there, so that's, you know, nice. Well, one or two of the American tourists being aside, anyway.

Anyway, when you travel with someone who is quite unable to resist the urge to break-out into, it's a long way.... when it plainly isn't, I suppose you have to except some low-key inhospitality.

I don't really have a point, here, nah.

I don't really have a point, here, nah.
That's ok... you never do, anyway... :p

This is my view of Ireland:
Leprechauns, shamrock, Guinness, horses running through council estates, toothless simpletons, people with eyebrows on their cheeks, badly tarmacced drives – in this country, men in platform shoes being arrested for bombings, lots of rocks, and Beamish.

Dere's more to Oireland dan dis.

...... hold on . ive lived in Ireland all my life.... and prbly will continue to (sigh) but eh.......... what ?...eh...did you say religious war???.... as far as religion goes here its like joking about another one... or your own. hell we rip the piss out of every religion.. and we prosicute our own, and call most priests pedophiles... the only religious hostility is from narrow minded ignorant racists,,, who can be found any where on earth,,, but theres hardly any of them here..

war in ireland.... .. wtf... that really baffels me.. its not liek its a back water place...well except the country , but thats all full of scobies anyway ;) ..

religious war, hehehe lord , good laugh. irelands incredably none violent.. the norths pretty damn peacful. as far as ANY violence goes, its between drugs related gang shootings.( in the south).. but that seems to have died down.. . no one here gives a S**t about religion.. (well a few... but they sicken me) or the north, most decent thinking people (who can count**) know that we cant afford the north.. or even want it. to much hassel. were happy as we are... ohhhh i hope im going out for some guinness to night. someone else is buying :D ( i never used to drink that stuff, yay miller!! but eh.. its really really good lol)

the North has one of the lowest crime rates in western Europe,

Lowest in the developed world, according to the UN. (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2091-1785801,00.html)

I like the way they surveyed and posted the results of every place around but not the results of the Republic...

I'm still wondering as to the reason for the starting of this thread... :D Meh.

I like the way they surveyed and posted the results of every place around but not the results of the Republic...

I'm still wondering as to the reason for the starting of this thread... :D Meh.
I suppose its a nice change from bashing America or France. Anyway as for the original post, most people who have not visited Ireland tend to have either an over romantic view or are of the view that its all about the north.To be honest its pretty like any other european country except for our well touted 'craic'..

i don't know whether it's overly enthusiastic tourism adverts or literal 'grass is greener' syndrome, but when i picture Ireland I imagine grass such a bright vivid shade of green you'd have to wear some sort of tinted goggles to avoid blindness. Sort of like the Emerald city of Oz.

I like the way they surveyed and posted the results of every place around but not the results of the Republic...

I'm still wondering as to the reason for the starting of this thread... :D Meh.
So am I. Ok, who kidnapped the OP? No you can keep him, just ask why he started the thread.

http://www.geraldbrimacombe.com/UK%20-Ireland/Ireland%20-%20Ballinskelligs%20Bay%20-%20Ring%20of%20Kerry.jpg

So much green! My eyes hurt!

As I am from the north of Ireland, can I just say that it is no way near as bad as everyone seems to think. There hasnt been a real bomb scare for ages and other than the riots durring the autumn there hasnt been too much rioting either. To be honest the main problem is the parimilatary control of the estates and the continuing sectarism. To all those who say that the problems in the North have nothing to do with the South, we were one country till the world war 2, the problems about Northern Ireland exsisted long before that.

From what I’ve heard described of the modern day Emerald Isle, it sounds like a painfully uncomfortable place to live.
Is this in any way accurate?

Well, if you actually were more specific you might get an answer.

we were one country till the world war 2,
Have you told history? I think it might have got that one wrong...

Im from belfast myself (but would consider myself irish).

Down south (i.e.: Dublin land) is just the North dressed up in fancy clothing.

Don't beleive me? Look at what happened to the Orangemen that marched in Dublin for a "Good-will" type thing.

But, its not as bad as everyone thinks it is.

Down south (i.e.: Dublin land)

AKA: 'Mexico'.

From what I’ve heard described of the modern day Emerald Isle, it sounds like a painfully uncomfortable place to live.
Is this in any way accurate?
No, it's pretty good. What have you heard?

I've always thought of Ireland as a place of gorgeous cliffs, rolling green hills, red-haired people with funny accents, and all the booze a man could ever ask for. In other words, heaven.

My image of Ireland is pretty much like this:
http://www.geraldbrimacombe.com/UK%20-Ireland/Ireland%20-%20Ballinskelligs%20Bay%20-%20Ring%20of%20Kerry.jpg

Lots of green and prettiness. :D
If so, then this is what Canada is aboot:

http://www76.pair.com/keithlim/postcards/mountie.jpg

i don't know whether it's overly enthusiastic tourism adverts or literal 'grass is greener' syndrome, but when i picture Ireland I imagine grass such a bright vivid shade of green you'd have to wear some sort of tinted goggles to avoid blindness. Sort of like the Emerald city of Oz.
On average Ireland is a bit greener than most places, due to the low population density and high rainfall.

Don't beleive me? Look at what happened to the Orangemen that marched in Dublin for a "Good-will" type thing.

But, its not as bad as everyone thinks it is.
The number of people who attacked the Gardaí Orangemen in Dublin was extremely small group of traitors. The majority were scangers taking advantage of the opportunity to loot.

This is my view of Ireland:
Leprechauns, shamrock, Guinness, horses running through council estates, toothless simpletons, people with eyebrows on their cheeks, badly tarmacced drives – in this country, men in platform shoes being arrested for bombings, lots of rocks, and Beamish.

Dere's more to Oireland dan dis.
Alan partrige. Classic:D

That's ok... you never do, anyway... :p

Heh, oi!

I'd get up and... shake an angry fist at you, but I might spill my pint.

Also, Murphys is concentrated evil, and must surely come out the back of something half-living. Guinness I have no particular problem with, but, for some reason, it really irks me that about two thirds of the world writes it, "Guiness". It's written on the pump it was pulled from, on the glass you're drinking from, you haven't had that much, get it right, darn it! Although most people are, in this thread, so, again, no point... damn it! [shakes fi... aw, crap, not the keyboard]

I see we have yet to hear what prompted this thread....

One of my friends told me that when they where in the US someone asked her "did you lose anyone in the famine?"

Another American asked my brother "where did you learn your english?" He said, he was in Canada for a year. :D


Apart from healthcare problems and high prices and a probable housing bubble there's nothing unconfortable about the ROI.
The only thing that I think could have prompted this thread is Irish people are execellent at complaining and use this skill frequently.

One of my friends told me that when they where in the US someone asked her "did you lose anyone in the famine?"

Not as stupid a question as it first appears: after all, in my family the potato famine was only four generations ago.

Strange, 3 pages in and the thread STILL hasn't been explained. Imagine that? :confused:

Strange, 3 pages in and the thread STILL hasn't been explained. Imagine that? :confused:
It's because it isn't about America or religion, so people are confused. We;ll get it eventually, we just need to keep posting.

Me too. Has Undelia heard rumour of some cushion famine which has been hushed up at the highest levels of the Dáil?

The start of the 2006 potato famine?

It's because it isn't about America or religion, so people are confused. We;ll get it eventually, we just need to keep posting.

You actually have a very good point, someone tried to make it about religion and that fell through. Now it's just penumbral specter of a NS General thread...

From what I’ve heard described of the modern day Emerald Isle, it sounds like a painfully uncomfortable place to live.
Is this in any way accurate?

Funny, I've heard it's a rather comfortable place to live. Ireland is one of the few countries in Western Europe I haven't been to, but I'd really like to some time.

You actually have a very good point, someone tried to make it about religion and that fell through. Now it's just penumbral specter of a NS General thread...
Ireland haunts NS.....

If this keeps up, we'll either have to give up, or do something traditional like turn on each other.

If this keeps up, we'll either have to give up, or do something traditional like turn on each other.
Shut up, I hate you, and everyone who shares your point of view! I hope you implode into a black hole and the suck the world into oblivion, then you won't be so gay.






Like that?

Just like New Zealand except they have sexy accents for mine.

No, thats what we do amongst the rest of them. Something typical we'd do amongst our own...clan warfare...United Loyalists v Affiliated Loyalists...Official Republicans vs Temporary seconded republicans. "x may be bad but its not half as bad as Moy Ross". Refuse to recognise the moderators.

And cattle maimin'...always good to get a bit of fresh country air in the lungs...

Strange, 3 pages in and the thread STILL hasn't been explained. Imagine that? :confused:

Maybe it was meant to be about Iceland, but the OP's finger slipped?

Bastards. They win the Cod War and now they think they can push us around.

Iceland= lots of Ice

Ireland= lots of.... Ire's?

Iceland= lots of Ice

Ireland= lots of.... Ire's?

Ire: Violent or unrestrained anger.

Got that right.

oblivion,

Oooh, I loved the Elder Scrolls IV :p

Iceland= lots of Ice

No.

Iceland = Lots of volcanoes.

Besides the glaciars and winter, Iceland is fairly green compared to Greenland.

We Danish vikings were incredibly silly when we named our 'colonies'.


Ireland

So green, it makes your eyes hurt. It sounds like a nice place to be, but so does everywhere else *shrug*

There's nothing especially uncomfortable about the place, north or south. Sure, it has its problems, but where doesn't?

There's nothing especially uncomfortable about the place, north or south.

Aside from getting impaled on the Botanic Gardens railings, obviously.

Aside from getting impaled on the Botanic Gardens railings, obviously.
Haha, yeah, I read about that. Just...weird.

WHAT THE FUCK!!! I live in Dublin, in Rathmines, and the only pieces of violence I've come across recently was some little thug took a swing at me (but he was unarmed. other countries he might not have been) and the riots about a month ago. Which no-one really gave a shit about. Ireland as a whole, the island, has been mostly peaceful since 1923 or so. The north has been peaceful since the 90s... Christ... Where did this idea come from? Dublin is a nice, not to big but interesting city full of lovely people, mostly. And that applies to the island as a whole. (Dublin holds roughly a third of the Republics population. 1.3 million out of 3.5.)

(Dublin holds roughly a third of the Republics population. 1.3 million out of 3.5.)
I thought the latest figure of the republics population was 4.1million?

No, thats the Island as a whole, or so I've been told. Belfast has about .9 million, I think...

of course, the census was only a little while ago, so the new numbers aren't out yet...

Aside from getting impaled on the Botanic Gardens railings, obviously.:D

Belfast has about .9 million, I think...According to the 2001 Census (http://www.nicensus2001.gov.uk/), there are 277,391 living within the confines of Belfast City Council. The figure for greater Belfast (including the council areas of Newtownabbey, Carrickfergus, Lisburn and Castlereagh) was 570,227.

oh... i thought it was much bigger. thats only as big as Cork, isn't it? certainly the first number...

:D

According to the 2001 Census (http://www.nicensus2001.gov.uk/), there are 277,391 living within the confines of Belfast City Council. The figure for greater Belfast (including the council areas of Newtownabbey, Carrickfergus, Lisburn and Castlereagh) was 570,227.
According to the Wiki page (with a link for a source) it's now about 670,000 or something like that.

No, thats the Island as a whole, or so I've been told. Belfast has about .9 million, I think...
4.1million was last year's estimate.

In 2002 the census said the population was 3.9million.
http://www.cso.ie/statistics/Population1901-2002.htm

According to the Wiki page (with a link for a source) it's now about 670,000 or something like that.It also gives different 2001 Census figures than the ones I just dug out from the Census site, but then the Census site is not the most user-friendly I've ever come across. Well, we have a rough idea at least!

The Republic. I'd have said Ulster otherwise.
That made me very mad. I live in Ulster and in the Republic. Call it the North or the Six Counties, but never, never, EVER Ulster.
(Love Ulster is one of the most oxymoronic names I've ever heard. They should be 'Love Ulster as long as it's Protestant and Loyalist')
New Lofeta, those folk on the march were deliberately trying to provoke trouble. I can see exactly why there were riots (and it's true that most of the people there were just out for a bit of a riot, not political reasons.) Those riots were not that bad, to be honest. Apart from O'Connell Street (what do you expect if you leave rioting materials to hand?) and the poor bastard I saw get kicked to the ground for having dreadlocks (some girl threw a can at the cops, and he got targetted...)
i thought the whole island was about six million, four and a half down here and one and a half up North.