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Which party would or did you vote for?

I would vote Conservative.

Green party.

Birmingham Labour party were involved in fraud in the last council elections.
The Lib Dems were involved in fraud this time round.
And the Tories who are the senior partner in the Birmingham Tory-Lib Dem council coalition haven't helped the city much to say the least as I'm aware. Plus it would take a LOT to make me vote Tory in protest.

So greens it was.

Respect the secret ballot, you undemocratic...swine.

I would vote Conservative.

An Irish person that would vote for the Tories....

Huh. Now I've heard everything.

Respect the secret ballot, you undemocratic...swine.The secret ballot is only kept secret if the voter desires. If they wish they can boast who they voted for to their hearts content - just not in or around the polling station.

You bastard. How could you not include the greens who are the typical protest vote for your average labour voter. Scumbag!

edit: and how could you list the third party below both UKIP and the BNP? Scumbag! I want my time back!

The secret ballot is only kept secret if the voter desires. If they wish they can boast who they voted for to their hearts content - just not in or around the polling station.

I know.

An Irish person that would vote for the Tories....

Huh. Now I've heard everything.

Whys that? When the top 2 partys in Ireland are also Conservative partys?

I know.Good for you. Now who did you vote for? Remember, you can lie. ;)

Didn't vote. Wouldn't have made any difference - Labour will control my local council for years to come.

Whys that? When the top 2 partys in Ireland are also Conservative partys?No. the top 2 parties in Ireland are conservative party. There is only one Conservative party.

Good for you. Now who did you vote for? Remember, you can lie. ;)

I stole postal ballots and voted for the BNP.

Didn't vote. Wouldn't have made any difference - Labour will control my local council for years to come.
It would be tragic if there were thousands of other people in your town of the same opinion.

Vote Blue, Go Green

Green.

I stole postal ballots and voted for the BNP.You lie!

The Conservative and Unionist Party

I left the country.

It would be tragic if there were thousands of other people in your town of the same opinion.
Yes, it would. And in fact, I'd say there probably are. I'm not trying to defend myself, I know I should have voted. The simple fact of the matter is that I just couldn't be bothered. Labour do a decent job here, and the Lib Dems would probably do almost exactly the same if they ran the council (the Tories don't have a hope in hell...). Besides, the university term doesn't start until next week, so most students won't be back until the weekend. That's several thousand people who haven't voted.

I left the country.
A convenient excuse...:p

A convenient excuse...:pIt's not excuse at all. He could have gone to the nearest British embassy, which is probably an couple of hours on an aeroplane, and voted there.

It's not excuse at all. He could have gone to the nearest British embassy, which is probably an couple of hours on an aeroplane, and voted there.

Is there any point with local elections?

Spoil my ballot, unless there was a member of a genuine socialist party who i thought could represent me in some small way at a local level.

Is there any point with local elections?
Surely you mean 'Is there any point in local elections?'...

Surely you mean 'Is there any point in local elections?'...

Nah, I'm happy with what I said.

You bastard. How could you not include the greens who are the typical protest vote for your average labour voter. Scumbag!

i hope you're joking :D

since most of the protest votes against labour go to the Lib Dems, things like the terrorism laws and Iraq are the reason why all the old labour lefty voters have been jumping ship and the Lib Dems have had a slight surge in support

i hope you're joking :D

since most of the protest votes against labour go to the Lib Dems, things like the terrorism laws and Iraq are the reason why all the old labour lefty voters have been jumping ship and the Lib Dems have had a slight surge in supportIn general elections yes, but my experience with previous local elections (1), is that they voted green as it doesn't really matter who runs the council. It's like midterms in the US only far less important. Much less.

I haven't voted yet, and don't expect to wander back out to do so.

We elected all thre 'thirds' last time round all Labour. The third-placing Labour guy (up for re-election on his own this time) had 2.5 times as many votes as the 4th placed (Lib Dem) last time round.

The council is a Labour/Lib-Dem battleground, but I don't think my constituency will change.

I don't know the incumbant (up for re-election) from Adam, nor any of the others. Well, I know about the Respect Party candidate, but she's the only one who bothered putting literature through my door (several items, of various degrees of "glossiness". Looks like everyone else thinks it's a forgone conclusion. One way or another.

And when I went out for a walk earlier, I diverted away from my route past the polling station for some obscure reason and so never even 'went in for a lark'.

Not that I think it's pointles to vote, just that I think it's pointless for me to vote in this particular election.

It's not excuse at all. He could have gone to the nearest British embassy, which is probably an couple of hours on an aeroplane, and voted there.

For which ward?

In general elections yes, but my experience with previous local elections (1), is that they voted green as it doesn't really matter who runs the council. It's like midterms in the US only far less important. Much less.

i agree they aren't very important, all thats going to come out of it will be more/less calls for Blair to go, depending on how hard labour get hammered (if they get hammered at all, but thats unlikely since the ruling party always get slapped about a bit)

I had 3 votes and used all of them to vote Green.

For which ward?Oh shit, yeah. You're not living in the UK anymore... I was living still in the UK, just staying in another country so I could still vote... damn embassy didn't get back to me, so now I'll not be able to vote in a general election still I'm 25.

Green.

Wouldnt vote Tory ever....
New Labour? Neo-Thatcherite bastards. And then there is Tony Blair.
Lib Dems... middle of the road nobodies who cant decide whether they are centre left or right.
Respect... George Galloway. Nuff said.
so, Greens were what was left, and I generally support their stance, so they got my vote.

Now if Labour returned, I might vote for them, but in their new Labour guise I wouldnt dream of it.

were there local elections in scotland? i never got any info on it. usually i get sent something that tells me where and when to vote. i would have voted for scottish socialists because they've always been the only ones on the ballot card i've even had the remotest liking for. they're probably the most liberal and at the same time socialist (obviously).

were there local elections in scotland? i never got any info on it. usually i get sent something that tells me where and when to vote. i would have voted for scottish socialists because they've always been the only ones on the ballot card i've even had the remotest liking for. they're probably the most liberal and at the same time socialist (obviously).I think the Scottish Parliament elections have been done at the same time as council elections since devolution.

Oh shit, yeah. You're not living in the UK anymore... I was living still in the UK, just staying in another country so I could still vote... damn embassy didn't get back to me, so now I'll not be able to vote in a general election still I'm 25.

That sucks.

As I have chosen not to live in the UK I have never used my right to a postal vote, even for a general election. Why should I have any say in how a country I don't live in should be run. It is not my business.

(I didn't even vote at the last election - 1997 - when I lived there as I knew I would be leaving in a few months. And it meant that I did not have to choose between Blair, Major and Ashdown to lead the UK)

This was my first ever vote guys, (I turned 18 last September), and I got up earlier than usual so I could go vote before going to school, I was actually the first person off the list to turn up at the ward! Are y'all proud of me or what?

So yeah, it was fun, I don't know why people object to the actual act of getting off their asses to go to the polling stations, they are fairly well located and the walk will probably do y'all some good.

So I got my ballot, and there I was, faced with my first ever ballot. My first ever chance to decide my own government, on any level. And I thought, 'hey, I love freedom, I'll just vote for the Liberal Democrats,' and then I say the tory candidate underneath, his name was Kenneth Hodge, or something equally uninspiring, but then next to his name was this little phrase: "also commonly known as 'Kenno'."

Kenno!? A man with a nickname!? And quite a jovial and jaunty li'l nickname as well. I started thinking, 'tell you what, I trust a man with a nickname like that to run my affairs...'

I was really tempted. But then I remembered that I loved freedom, so I voted for Boringname Von Libdemstein, or whatever their name was. (I still love you Kenno).

If I could vote, I wouldn't know who to vote for!
The Labour Party is full of liars, incompetant MP's (Charles Clark) and hypocrites (John Prescot).
The Conservatives are full of liars and their leader thinks "green" issues are more important than crime! I'm too young to remember what exactly Thatcher did wrong so I won't comment on that!
The Liberals are, if you believe The Sun newspaper (which is don't!), the worst party in the world after The BNP because they want to raise taxes, or something like that....I'm not sure what to say about them.
I would never vote for a racist party like The BNP.
UKIP are a one issue party. I mean, can you tell me what else they would do if they were elected except (try) to pull out of the EU?
I'd probably end up wasting my vote on The Loony Party!:D

They're not UK local elections, they're Great Britain local elections.

No elections in NI. What are you electing people to, anyway?

What are you electing people to, anyway?

Local councils. The people who organise litter picks, park benches and other such trivial power-to-the-people type activities.

They're not UK local elections, they're Great Britain local elections.

Well not even that, as they are not happening in Scotland at the mo (I am Scottish, but go to Manchester Uni, so get a vote down here). Dont know about Wales though.

Local councils. The people who organise litter picks, park benches and other such trivial power-to-the-people type activities.
Ah ok.

God knows when we vote for ours. At the same time as a General Election I think.

Well not even that, as they are not happening in Scotland at the mo (I am Scottish, but go to Manchester Uni, so get a vote down here). Dont know about Wales though.
So, it's not UK local elections.

It's not GB local elections.

It's possibly England and Wales local elections.

But it might just be England.

So why the thread title?

were there local elections in scotland? i never got any info on it. usually i get sent something that tells me where and when to vote. i would have voted for scottish socialists because they've always been the only ones on the ballot card i've even had the remotest liking for. they're probably the most liberal and at the same time socialist (obviously).

The Scottish Socialist leaflet that came through my door last year had a picture of what one might term 'The Typical Thug'. Honestly, he looked like he was lifted straight from Eastenders or some such godforsaken soap opera.

The Scottish Socialist leaflet that came through my door last year had a picture of what one might term 'The Typical Thug'. Honestly, he looked like he was lifted straight from Eastenders or some such godforsaken soap opera.

Well, yes... the SSP do a have a slight image disadvatage with their MSPs. But then, it is nice to se more than the standard smart men in suits band having a voice in politics.

Well, yes... the SSP do a have a slight image disadvatage with their MSPs. But then, it is nice to se more than the standard smart men in suits band having a voice in politics.

Slight disadvantage? However, I agree that some variety is stimulating every now and again.

Well not even that, as they are not happening in Scotland at the mo (I am Scottish, but go to Manchester Uni, so get a vote down here). Dont know about Wales though.

Wait, you're Scottish, but since you're attending school in Manchester you can vote in Manchester elections?

Wait, you're Scottish, but since you're attending school in Manchester you can vote in Manchester elections?Your vote is based on where you live, not where you're from. Makes sense if you think about it.

Your vote is based on where you live, not where you're from. Makes sense if you think about it.

Our system is more concerned if you're a legal resident of the jurisdiction you're voting in and are paying taxes there. Most students who register to vote stay registered at their home address (especially those from out of state) and use absentee ballots. Which reminds me, I've moved recently and I need to go to the Secretary of State's office and register to vote here.

POLLS HAVE CLOSED: CURRENT RESULTS


LOCAL ELECTION RESULTS

Councillors Councils
PARTY +/- TOT +/- TOT
LAB 5 councils
CON 4 councils
LD 1 council
OTH 0
NOC 0

After 10 of 176 councils
NOC = No control

Enjoy your complimentary dose of bureaucracy Wallonochia!

(You will be charged £2 for the first minute and £1 for each subsequent minute or part thereof.)

Our system is more concerned if you're a legal resident of the jurisdiction you're voting in and are paying taxes there. Most students who register to vote stay registered at their home address (especially those from out of state) and use absentee ballots. Which reminds me, I've moved recently and I need to go to the Secretary of State's office and register to vote here.Our system?

In the UK as I remember all you need to is the right to abode or right to work in the country (can't remember which, probably work though) and be living at an address in that ward. You can be registered in more than one place, but should only vote once. My memory is veryu hazy on that. That can't be right.

But student's can register vote in the town of their university. It's not a problem at all.

I can vote in the Manchester local elections, local elections in Edinburgh, in the general election(though only once, either in Manchester or Edinburgh. Last year I voted in Manchester... because it was simpler than arranging a proxy ballot back home) and in the Scottish Parliament elections. Once I go back home afer the end of Uni, I will lose my entitlement to vote in Manchester.

*Prays fervently the BNP don't make any gains*

Hang on, it's not even all of England.

So it's not all of the UK

It's not even Great Britain

It's not even England and Wales (as so many things tend to be)

It's not even all of England

It's some councils in England.



The thread title is looking more erroneous by the minute.

I would vote for the loonies!

I actually agreed to their policies at the last Geeral election:(

ELECTION SCOREBOARD UPDATED

Councils
PARTY
CON 6
LAB 5
LD 1
OTH 0
NOC 0

After 12 of 176 councils
NOC = No control

I would vote for the loonies!

I actually agreed to their policies at the last Geeral election:(You're not talking about Labour or the Conservatives or the Lib Dems, when you say Loonies, are you? ;)

(I would seriously have voted for the OMRLP (http://www.omrlp.com/) if they'd ever appeared on my ballot sheets... The closet I can get to vote for mad people at the moment is the Respect Party.)

Councils/ Councillers
Conservative 28 / 423
Labour 15 / 324
Liberal Democrat 4 /198
Residents Association 0/9
British National Party 0 /7
UK Independence Party 0/ 1

They'll all be the first against the wall when the revolution comes :D

The Libs seem alright.

Updated Results:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/vote2006/locals/html/region_99999.stm

So Labour did pretty awfully in the end, losing control of 18 councils and over 250 seats.

What do people think of today's dramatic cabinet reshuffle? I'm a bit shocked to see Margaret Beckett at the Foreign Office, but I think the sacking of Clarke and the loss of Prescott's department is hilarious.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/vote2006/locals/html/region_99999.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4975938.stm

So Labour did pretty awfully in the end, losing control of 18 councils and over 250 seats.

What do people think of today's dramatic cabinet reshuffle? I'm a bit shocked to see Margaret Beckett at the Foreign Office, but I think the sacking of Clarke and the loss of Prescott's department is hilarious.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/vote2006/locals/html/region_99999.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4975938.stm


An abrasive thug at the Home Office? The farmer's wife from Chicken Run representing the UK abroad? An actual cretin in charge of our relations with Europe?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

At least Prescott will have more time to eat his big pies.

He should have stoos down when he had the chance, there will be no lasting (positive) Blair legacy now. I think he is going to cling on untill either the country or his party kicks him out.

No Greens in Southwark, so I voted Lib Dem.

The result that shocks me is Islington. For ages it's been held up as the prime example of how the left have abandoned Labour and turned to the likes of the Lib Dems. Voters there are the kind who despise encroachments on civil liberties. So, you'd think the Lib Dems would hold it with ease. And yet... they lost twelve seats to labour and the borough is now NOC. What the hell happened?

Oh, and Blunkett --> Clarke --> Reid: depressingly obvious. Illiberal thugs to a man.

No Greens in Newcastle, and I couldn't bring myself to vote for the Lib Dems. I refuse to vote for the lesser of three evils. It's nice to see Labour getting hammered, but the Tories gaining that many seats is not necessarily a good thing either.

None of the councils I care about have declared yet (except Birmingham). Stupid Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Newham, Leeds and Bradford.

I just wish that they wouldn't give the BNP six or seven mentions in the media for every one passing reference to, for example, the Greens, who, last I heard, actually gained one more seat than had the BNP.

Being presented with a choice between New Labour and the Conservatives, I chose to watch Home and Away, carry out some more planning towards leaving the country, and then I went back to bed.

My friend ran -in another ward- for the Lib Dems, but had his worst result in his three attempts so far. Beat the Greens, I suppose, but pushed into fourth place by Respect, of all possibilities.


...I told him to stick with NationStates.

Yeah, that's true. If the BNP have had a successful election then the Greens have had a stormer, especially given that they received no publicity in the run-up.

An aside: this is becoming a bit of an ACA gathering...

He should have stoos down when he had the chance, there will be no lasting (positive) Blair legacy now. I think he is going to cling on untill either the country or his party kicks him out.

I think he wants to stay until this time next year so he can say he was prime minister for a decade; he's that sort of c*nt.

Whether he'll make it is another matter.

I think he wants to stay until this time next year so he can say he was prime minister for a decade; he's that sort of c*nt.

Whether he'll make it is another matter.

Oh... that would mean my prediction of him leaving 2 years after the election would be right. But of course... we dont know if that is what will happen.

I had a choice between Tories and Labour.

I chose labour because they opposed the elected mayor in Crewe and Nantwich. However the tories won.

Fortunatly the elected mayor referendum lost. We stick with the current system.

I was a counter at the voting in the evening (took till 3am as we had to separate the referendum votes from the council votes.) Can I please ask you voters two things for next time:

1. IT IS ONLY NECCERSARY TO FOLD THE BALLOT ONCE. The number of times I had to undo three or four folds was annoying, and it stops them stacking neatly.

2. INVALIDATING YOUR BALLOT PAPER BY VOTING FOR EVERY CANDIDATE IS ANOYING. When you do this in a close vote it just means there are endless recount, and the counters get less sleep.

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I don't well UK parties; but I cannot vote for any of the big 3. Probably a democratic socialist/communist party if there is one, else the greens. I need a party that supports democracy, that is agaisnt the war and that opposes neoliberalism.

I don't well UK parties; but I cannot vote for any of the big 3. Probably a democratic socialist/communist party if there is one, else the greens. I need a party that supports democracy, that is agaisnt the war and that opposes neoliberalism.

Well, in Scotland there are the SSP (Scottish Socialist Party).

And then there is Respect, but thats just wrong because of George Galloway.

I don't well UK parties; but I cannot vote for any of the big 3. Probably a democratic socialist/communist party if there is one, else the greens. I need a party that supports democracy, that is agaisnt the war and that opposes neoliberalism.
The only parties of any scale adopting these positions are the Greens, Scottish Socialists, Plaid Cymru (Welsh Nationalists) and Respect. Actually, the BNP might qualify, too...

Actually, the BNP might qualify, too...

Erm... not sure if they qualify as democratic. 2 out of 3, yes, but not democratic. Wanting to repatriate all non-whites isnt democratic if you ask me.

And then there is Respect, but thats just wrong because of George Galloway.

Respect ? Who are they ?

The only parties of any scale adopting these positions are the Greens, Scottish Socialists, Plaid Cymru (Welsh Nationalists) and Respect. Actually, the BNP might qualify, too...

BNP ? Aren't they neofascists ? If so, there my complete opposite ;)

Erm... not sure if they qualify as democratic. 2 out of 3, yes, but not democratic. Wanting to repatriate all non-whites isnt democratic if you ask me.

Why not?

I disagree with repatriation etc. but if the majority vote for it it is a democratic action surely.

Respect ? Who are they ?
They is perhaps the wrong word. It is George Galloway's party. Y'know, the guy who pretended to be a cat on 'Celebrity' Big Brother.

They is perhaps the wrong word. It is George Galloway's party. Y'know, the guy who pretended to be a cat on 'Celebrity' Big Brother.

Ironically, if it wasn't for him, I could almost vote for them. Almost.

It's not actually his party, it's made up mostly of the Socialist Worker's Party and the Muslim Council of Britain (Summat like that) and there's no way he's chairman, or even on their Executive.

But i'm being pedantic, and that doesn't stop him being a complete wanker.

Erm... not sure if they qualify as democratic. 2 out of 3, yes, but not democratic. Wanting to repatriate all non-whites isnt democratic if you ask me.
Well, depends on how you define 'democratic'. A BNP government would be a sham democracy, but you could say the same about the status quo. It's just a matter of degree.

BNP ? Aren't they neofascists ? If so, there my complete opposite ;)

National Socialist, so yes. Left wing economically (perhaps the only in Britain) and very, very right wing everywhere else. They like to present themselves as a moderate patriotic not-actually-racist, but pretty much everyone important in the party has been filmed saying "I'd rather have my kid live in 1940's Germany than the UK now" or somethign like that.

I don't use the words "Nazi Scum" very often, but with the BNP, it's very much appropriate.

Well, depends on how you define 'democratic'. A BNP government would be a sham democracy, but you could say the same about the status quo. It's just a matter of degree.

Well, the UK now isn't much better. In fact, I barely count the UK as a democracy at all, and probably the least democratic democracy in the western world. However, he BNP enforcing legislation to repatriate immigrants based on a plurality (not a majority) would be no different to Labour passing legislation to enforce identity cards, based on a pluarity of the vote.

Left-wing economically and racist? I can't think of a worse party.

Left-wing economically and racist? I can't think of a worse party.

Right wing economically and racist.

Right wing economically and racist.

In what way are they right-wing economically? They believe in national ownership, import tariffs to protect domestic industry and a host of other protectionist policies.

Castilla la Vieja, they were saying that right-wing economics are worse than left.

Ha ha! Thank God, the Conservatives lost control of my local council! Well done, Harrogate!

Ha ha! Thank God, the Conservatives lost control of my local council! Well done, Harrogate!

Move man, move. Harrogate is the epitomy of all that is bad about the English miidle class suburban society. (Or it was when I lived in Leeds anyway)

National Socialist, so yes. Left wing economically (perhaps the only in Britain) and very, very right wing everywhere else.

National Socialists were socialists only in name... they were much more right wing, economically, than leftists. That's why they were supported by the "democratic" right (Hitler only came to power because of their support), and why most of big corporation owners supported and traded with the nazi.

So if the BNP really is close to the nazi party, they are right-wing in all scales. The worse possible.

I like harrogate. I live near several takeaways, a bakery, about 50m away from a cool corner shop and an off-licence. Heh, no moving :D

Ha ha! Thank God, the Conservatives lost control of my local council! Well done, Harrogate!

It's all about the No Overall Control!

Mine just went even more tory, but since I live in Humvee-driving Little-Englander Billericay, need I say more?

Ha ha! Thank God, the Conservatives lost control of my local council! Well done, Harrogate!

You lucky thing, now you can look forward to higher council tax rises and rip-ooff services.

Congratulations!

lol. At least harrogate has the sense to kick out three more Tories, giving the Lib Dems a little more breathing space.

Liberal Democrats: political cuddly soft toys. They fart rainbows and give out free sweets to everyone.

Conservatives: evil nasty spiky things from hell. Boo! Their entire leadership participated actively in the Spanish Inquisition, and poked tiny little puppies with sharp sticks.

I like harrogate. I live near several takeaways, a bakery, about 50m away from a cool corner shop and an off-licence. Heh, no moving :D

Oh the thrills and excitement of the local bakery and corner shop. But if you like it then I don't understand why you are pleased that the conservatives lost control there.

Oh the thrills and excitement of the local bakery and corner shop. But if you like it then I don't understand why you are pleased that the conservatives lost control there.

Because I'm a Lib Dem supporter.

National Socialists were socialists only in name... they were much more right wing, economically, than leftists. That's why they were supported by the "democratic" right (Hitler only came to power because of their support), and why most of big corporation owners supported and traded with the nazi.

So if the BNP really is close to the nazi party, they are right-wing in all scales. The worse possible.

They weren't economically right-wing at all. Big business supported them because they got protected markets and lucrative government contracts; this is a policy that benefits corporations, whereas a right-wing policy would benefits consumers by maximising choice and liberalising markets.

Because I'm a Lib Dem supporter.

A Harrogatian rebel then. :D

A Harrogatian rebel then. :D

lol :D

You lie!
Intriguingly, a rather dense person, who has been banned from the forum, did not realise I was joking. This person added me on MSN under the premise that I was a bigoted, white-supremacist. :p

National Socialists were socialists only in name... they were much more right wing, economically, than leftists. That's why they were supported by the "democratic" right (Hitler only came to power because of their support), and why most of big corporation owners supported and traded with the nazi.

So if the BNP really is close to the nazi party, they are right-wing in all scales. The worse possible.

Going back to my GCSE History, the Nazis very early on were very active and involved with the trade union movement, and were involved in informal agreements with the SPD. However, the 'left' movement within the Nazis, led by Ernst Röhm (Gay, actually) were buchered in the Night of the Long Knives, and left Hitler securely in charge.

The Nazis kept a tight grip over the Economy, and it was indeed planned, if I remember rightly. (Three year plans rign a few bells). They were the very antonym of socialist, but unfortunately the phrase 'National Socialist' is attached to their ideology and movement.

They weren't economically right-wing at all. Big business supported them because they got protected markets and lucrative government contracts; this is a policy that benefits corporations, whereas a right-wing policy would benefits consumers by maximising choice and liberalising markets.

Liberalising markets benefits corporations much more than customers, too. Without all the protection customers and small business have, they get very easily crushed by bug business. Liberalising doesn't increase choice, it reduces it. Just look nowadays how most important stuff are controlled by a few multinational corportations...

Being right-wing economically is supporting big business; doing it actively is just the extreme end of the "laissez faire" attitude which already helps them a lot. Being left-wing economically is supporting the workers, consumers and/or small business, and opposing the big corporations.