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Catholics Excommunicate Chinese men

Whittier---
04-05-2006, 15:01
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060504/ap_on_re_as/vatican_china_7

I think they should be more active in who they excommunicate. Especially North and South American liberals.
Naliitr
04-05-2006, 15:03
I told you. I fucking told you. The crusade IS coming!
Compulsive Depression
04-05-2006, 15:07
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060504/ap_on_re_as/vatican_china_7

I think they should be more active in who they excommunicate. Especially North and South American liberals.
The only downside to never having been a Catholic is that I'll never be able to be excommunicated :(
Zielony
04-05-2006, 15:09
Well, it is an latae sententiae excommunication - the Vatican did'nt impose it, it is imposed automatically by the act of bishop consecration without Vatican's approbation.
Drunk commies deleted
04-05-2006, 15:29
I told you. I fucking told you. The crusade IS coming!
A crusade against China? For what? To liberate the Ho Lee land?
Kellarly
04-05-2006, 15:30
Meh, I've been excommunicated on Medieval: Total War and I kicked the Pope's arse then ;) Looks like it needs another kicking.
Naliitr
04-05-2006, 15:34
Meh, I've been excommunicated on Medieval: Total War and I kicked the Pope's arse then ;) Looks like it needs another kicking.
When ever I play Italy I always get rid of the Pope ASAP. Yet he comes back like, every 25 years. And if I get excommunicated, I start a massive anti-crusade towards Rome and that Papal States. I get rid of everyone in my way. France, Germany, Spain, Britian, Denmark, Poland, Russia, Byzantium, Egypt, Morroco, Turks, Argonese, Hungarians, Sicilians, Swiss, whom ever. I will get the Pope's ass on a silver platter.
Whittier---
04-05-2006, 15:38
I told you. I fucking told you. The crusade IS coming!
You do realize this is an inactive excommunication. They were auto excommunicated because of the law. The Pope didn't do it actively. I'm saying the Church should be more active in excommunicating heathens who claim to be catholics but are not practicing catholics or espouse religious doctrines that are contrary to Catholic doctrines.
Kellarly
04-05-2006, 15:39
Meh, he usually learns from me the importance of placing longbow units on a hill. Lots of longbow men. Just in front of some rather hard highlanders who hold a grudge...
Whittier---
04-05-2006, 15:40
Meh, I've been excommunicated on Medieval: Total War and I kicked the Pope's arse then ;) Looks like it needs another kicking.
Really? He declared 50 crusades against me, then I took the Papal States.

Problem was the fool kept coming back for more.
Laerod
04-05-2006, 15:41
You do realize this is an inactive excommunication. They were auto excommunicated because of the law. The Pope didn't do it actively. I'm saying the Church should be more active in excommunicating heathens who claim to be catholics but are not practicing catholics or espouse religious doctrines that are contrary to Catholic doctrines.That would drastically reduce the amount of followers of the Catholic Church, though. And a lot of those still pay church taxes. Highly unlikely that the Pope would risk that, especially since he's German.
Kellarly
04-05-2006, 15:42
Really? He declared 50 crusades against me, then I took the Papal States.

Problem was the fool kept coming back for more.


Meh, using the tactic mentioned above I marched to Italy, took Rome, pillaged and burned. Then waited for him to come back then introduced him to a whole army of chivalric knights... oh the destruction was lovely...
Whittier---
04-05-2006, 15:43
Meh, he usually learns from me the importance of placing longbow units on a hill. Lots of longbow men. Just in front of some rather hard highlanders who hold a grudge...
As soon as I got gunpowder I started using it against him. Everytime he showed back up, even after the gunpowder was discovered, he never had gunpowder units so mine kept mowing the lawn with him. The only reason he kept retaking the Papacy was because I had my troops off fighting Russia. And I'd have to to move them back to Italy to retake the peninsula, with Russia taking over my eastern lands in the meantime.
Kellarly
04-05-2006, 15:44
As soon as I got gunpowder I started using it against him. Everytime he showed back up, even after the gunpowder was discovered, he never had gunpowder units so mine kept mowing the lawn with him. The only reason he kept retaking the Papacy was because I had my troops off fighting Russia. And I'd have to to move them back to Italy to retake the peninsula, with Russia taking over my eastern lands in the meantime.

Yeah, he always turns up at the worst time. Still revenge is always sweet.
The Black Forrest
04-05-2006, 16:40
Well, it is an latae sententiae excommunication - the Vatican did'nt impose it, it is imposed automatically by the act of bishop consecration without Vatican's approbation.

Thank you.
The Black Forrest
04-05-2006, 16:42
I think they should be more active in who they excommunicate. Especially North and South American liberals.

Yup they should so the Americans will split off just like England.

Vatican needs to clean it's own house before they start "ethnic cleansing" other countries.
East Brittania
04-05-2006, 22:12
Meh, I've been excommunicated on Medieval: Total War and I kicked the Pope's arse then ;) Looks like it needs another kicking.

Why don't you be nice to the Papacy? Get to know the Pontiff and then use His Holiness to your advantage.
Keruvalia
04-05-2006, 22:15
Wait .... there's still a church out there that practices excommunication?

My god ... how primitive is that?!


Fuckin' Catholics.
East Brittania
04-05-2006, 22:20
Wait .... there's still a church out there that practices excommunication?

My god ... how primitive is that?!


Fuckin' Catholics.

Sorry, I can't resist this (appeals to my sarcastic sense of humour):

Wait...there're still countries out there that carry out capital sentencing?

Gosh...how primitive is that?!

Bloody humans.
Heikoku
05-05-2006, 00:11
If the excommunication of "south american leftists" was meant at me, I'm an occultist. The only one that can excommunicate me is... MYSELF. However, excommunicating people that break the 5th commandment could be an option, isn't it, mr. I-went-to-eyerak-to-kill-some-people?
Sdaeriji
05-05-2006, 00:41
If the excommunication of "south american leftists" was meant at me, I'm an occultist.

My, someone thinks very highly of themselves, don't they?
Heikoku
05-05-2006, 00:47
My, someone thinks very highly of themselves, don't they?

No, no, no. If anyone else but Whit had made this remark, I'd not think that at all. However the guy took a recent pounding at my hands in his "let's make Venezuela into a military dictatorship like the one we made in Chile" thread, and is still resentful of that.
Sdaeriji
05-05-2006, 01:25
No, no, no. If anyone else but Whit had made this remark, I'd not think that at all. However the guy took a recent pounding at my hands in his "let's make Venezuela into a military dictatorship like the one we made in Chile" thread, and is still resentful of that.

Still, I imagine he's talking about people like Chavez and Morales, not you.
Whittier---
05-05-2006, 01:27
Why don't you be nice to the Papacy? Get to know the Pontiff and then use His Holiness to your advantage.
The Pontiff speaks with forked tongue. He breaks his treaties.
Undelia
05-05-2006, 01:35
Yup they should so the Americans will split off just like England.

Vatican needs to clean it's own house before they start "ethnic cleansing" other countries.
Don't you mean "ethic cleansing"?

This is one of the reasons I hate the Catholic Church. It is an institution that specifically sets out to hinder free-thought.
Whittier---
05-05-2006, 01:37
Still, I imagine he's talking about people like Chavez and Morales, not you.
You sir are quite correct. I would also include Castro, FARC, all the terrorists and drug dealers and all members of paramilitary units that have engaging in the murder of thousands of thousands of innocent civilians.

Catholics can only excommunicate catholics. Mr. Let's Start A Fight Cause I'm Bored And Don't Have A Job has made a point of bringing up his anism, voodoo, occult whatever religion in every single thread he's been in.
Quite frankly I don't think anyone gives a damn that he's an occultist. This thread is about Catholics and excommunication, not occultists. If he wants to talk about occultism, he can start a seperate thread and not hijack yet another one of mine.

Now, I put that up to get opinions. Particularly from Catholics. I don't think any have posted in this thread yet.
Whittier---
05-05-2006, 01:40
Don't you mean "ethic cleansing"?

This is one of the reasons I hate the Catholic Church. It is an institution that specifically sets out to hinder free-thought.
This case its not the church hindering free thought, it's the Chinese government that ordained the bishops, and by carrying out orders of the government, the "bishops" ended up excommunicating themselves.

This is an example of the fact that China has no religious freedom. The government decides who is a bishop and who is a pastor, or a rabbi or an imam.
German Nightmare
05-05-2006, 01:48
A crusade against China? For what? To liberate the Ho Lee land?
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/atomrofl.gif
Good one!
Heikoku
05-05-2006, 01:50
Oh, I was pointing that out due to your tendancy to pick fights with whoever disagrees with you. But I do have a job, which doesn't involve raping innocents, so I guess you don't care about it, and which requires university formation, so I guess you wouldn't understand it anyways. And you're not here to get other's opinions. QED your "let's hinder free speech and rip the Constitution" ideas.

Anyways.

For a guy that has a psychotic fantasy in which the US is the only country that matters, you're awfully concerned with what happens in China.

Well, I'm done here. Flame me if you wish, I'm ignoring you now, as fun as it has been to argue with you.
Swilatia
05-05-2006, 01:55
Looks like we just need to wipe the catholic church off the face of the planet.











































But china does suck. Stupid commies.
Boofheads
05-05-2006, 02:38
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060504/ap_on_re_as/vatican_china_7

I think they should be more active in who they excommunicate. Especially North and South American liberals.


This post is a test to see if forum goers actually click the link and comprehend English. If not, expect some "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ANTI-CHINESE!" remarks.
(note, the excommunication had nothing to do with race)
Boofheads
05-05-2006, 02:42
Wait .... there's still a church out there that practices excommunication?

My god ... how primitive is that?!


Fuckin' Catholics.


Do you know what excommunication is and why it happens?
Whittier---
05-05-2006, 02:47
Oh, I was pointing that out due to your tendancy to pick fights with whoever disagrees with you. But I do have a job, which doesn't involve raping innocents, so I guess you don't care about it, and which requires university formation, so I guess you wouldn't understand it anyways. And you're not here to get other's opinions. QED your "let's hinder free speech and rip the Constitution" ideas.

Anyways.

For a guy that has a psychotic fantasy in which the US is the only country that matters, you're awfully concerned with what happens in China.

Well, I'm done here. Flame me if you wish, I'm ignoring you now, as fun as it has been to argue with you.
that's because what happens in China and in Venezuela and Iraq, and Mexico and other places, ultimately has an effect on freedom in the US of A. You can claim they don't, as some in the other thread claimed Venezuela had no effect on the US. Well, everyone said the same thing about Afghanistan upto the night before 911.
Whittier---
05-05-2006, 02:48
This post is a test to see if forum goers actually click the link and comprehend English. If not, expect some "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ANTI-CHINESE!" remarks.
(note, the excommunication had nothing to do with race)
I think you got it backwards. The chinese are anti religion.
Boonytopia
05-05-2006, 09:10
Excellent! Holy war within the Catholic Church!
The Cat-Tribe
05-05-2006, 09:56
You sir are quite correct. I would also include Castro, FARC, all the terrorists and drug dealers and all members of paramilitary units that have engaging in the murder of thousands of thousands of innocent civilians.

Catholics can only excommunicate catholics. Mr. Let's Start A Fight Cause I'm Bored And Don't Have A Job has made a point of bringing up his anism, voodoo, occult whatever religion in every single thread he's been in.
Quite frankly I don't think anyone gives a damn that he's an occultist. This thread is about Catholics and excommunication, not occultists. If he wants to talk about occultism, he can start a seperate thread and not hijack yet another one of mine.

Now, I put that up to get opinions. Particularly from Catholics. I don't think any have posted in this thread yet.

1. I'm not sure what is more idiotic than a non-Catholic calling for the Roman Catholic Church to excommunicate people. :headbang:

2. Castro was excommunicated already, bright eyes. On January 3rd, 1962.

3. You originally said that "North and South American liberals" should be excommunicated. You clearly know little of Catholic teachings (http://www.usccb.org/faithfulcitizenship/bishopStatement.html) regarding poverty, civil rights, immigration, the rights of workers, global solidarity, war, and other "liberal" positions. For example, should conservatives that disagree with the Church's support for affirmative action or that support the death penalty be excommunicated?
Non Aligned States
05-05-2006, 10:43
You do realize this is an inactive excommunication. They were auto excommunicated because of the law. The Pope didn't do it actively. I'm saying the Church should be more active in excommunicating heathens who claim to be catholics but are not practicing catholics or espouse religious doctrines that are contrary to Catholic doctrines.

Yeah. Like you. Mr "I prayed to god the sucker would suffer so that I could have time with his girlfriend"

Mr "I'm so much better than all of you people because I never had sex that I can say who and who isn't moral"

Mr "I hope someone assassinates Mr Chavez so we can install yet another pro-US dictator who'd gun down protestors"

Yup. That's Whittier alright. Mr "I make a mockery of Christianity but declare myself a paragon of it."

The likes of you should belong in the same group as Pat Robertson.
Heikoku
05-05-2006, 17:09
Yeah. Like you. Mr "I prayed to god the sucker would suffer so that I could have time with his girlfriend"

Mr "I'm so much better than all of you people because I never had sex that I can say who and who isn't moral"

Mr "I hope someone assassinates Mr Chavez so we can install yet another pro-US dictator who'd gun down protestors"

Yup. That's Whittier alright. Mr "I make a mockery of Christianity but declare myself a paragon of it."

The likes of you should belong in the same group as Pat Robertson.

I like you a bit more now, N.A.S. :D

You also missed the part in which he said he was gonna pray for an earthquake to hit Venezuela, as well as a flood. Y'know, due to his love of the innocent people there. :rolleyes:
Christ is Lord
05-05-2006, 17:22
The Catholic Church shows the hellbound nature inherent in itself.

When they burn, the Elect will laugh, and throw rocks and dirt at them from heaven!
Heikoku
05-05-2006, 17:28
The Catholic Church shows the hellbound nature inherent in itself.

When they burn, the Elect will laugh, and throw rocks and dirt at them from heaven!

Sure mr. Phelps, now take your medicine and go to bed...
Christ is Lord
05-05-2006, 17:36
Fine. Mock me. Just remember, without the Five Points, you'll burn too!
Psychotic Mongooses
05-05-2006, 17:41
Fine. Mock me. Just remember, without the Five Points, you'll burn too!

God you're a cute ickle troll aren't you?! *pets*

You are getting around today.
Non Aligned States
05-05-2006, 18:38
You also missed the part in which he said he was gonna pray for an earthquake to hit Venezuela, as well as a flood. Y'know, due to his love of the innocent people there. :rolleyes:

Well, I'm only human, so I can only post stuff I've read about. Now if I was omniscient, I'd post Whittier's baby pictures and stuff like that or whatever it would take to forever humiliate him from the net.

Or just disable his internet account :P
Whittier---
05-05-2006, 18:38
1. I'm not sure what is more idiotic than a non-Catholic calling for the Roman Catholic Church to excommunicate people. :headbang:

2. Castro was excommunicated already, bright eyes. On January 3rd, 1962.

3. You originally said that "North and South American liberals" should be excommunicated. You clearly know little of Catholic teachings (http://www.usccb.org/faithfulcitizenship/bishopStatement.html) regarding poverty, civil rights, immigration, the rights of workers, global solidarity, war, and other "liberal" positions. For example, should conservatives that disagree with the Church's support for affirmative action or that support the death penalty be excommunicated?
2. And where did I say that he hadn't been? Do you have eye problems? I said he was one the kinds of people that should be excommunicated.
3.Further, some American bishops have already begun excommunicating American liberals. Because those liberals have adopted positions that contrary to the church's. For example abortion. American Catholicism has become different from the Catholicism of Rome.
Psychotic Mongooses
05-05-2006, 18:41
3.Further, some American bishops have already begun excommunicating American liberals. Because those liberals have adopted positions that contrary to the church's. For example abortion.

Link?
Non Aligned States
05-05-2006, 18:42
Link?

Don't hold your breath waiting.
Whittier---
05-05-2006, 18:43
The Catholic Church shows the hellbound nature inherent in itself.

When they burn, the Elect will laugh, and throw rocks and dirt at them from heaven!
I second that.
Psychotic Mongooses
05-05-2006, 18:47
Don't hold your breath waiting.

*holds breath*
Until I go zis colour ---> :eek:
Red Masses
05-05-2006, 18:59
I second that.

Because delighting in the misfortunes of others is what Jesus was all about.
Heikoku
05-05-2006, 19:02
Fine. Mock me. Just remember, without the Five Points, you'll burn too!

No. I won't. But I'd rather not waste my time tossing pearl before swine here. Now, kindly crawl back to the cave you came from and shove your beliefs up your astra. :p

Yep. Your astra. Y'know, the car. What, thought I was gonna tell you to shove it where?
Heikoku
05-05-2006, 19:21
Because delighting in the misfortunes of others is what Jesus was all about.

Oh, don't say anything to him! He's a nice, merciful christian... that is, if one thought Christ was a psychopath, which I don't. :p
TJHairball
05-05-2006, 19:46
I am reading this thread.

I am not finding civil discussion. I am finding flaming and flamebait, trolling and derailing, personal attacks and what-not.

I am locking this thread.