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Well, we've all seen the big debate threads about homosexuality. So now I want to see, who here actually IS homosexual?

Not me.

Is this an offer. ;)

You do know that by making the poll secret, we won't actually know who is homosexual?

Heterosexual.

I'm not.

My wife once joked how would I know and our gay friends laughed and said there is no doubt he is hetro.

nope

You do know that by making the poll secret, we won't actually know who is homosexual?
And? Some people are insecure in thier homosexuality. I am simply giving them privacy.

No, I'm hetero.

Is this an offer. ;)
No n00b, it is not.

And? Some people are insecure in thier homosexuality. I am simply giving them privacy.

But then how would you know? I notice people vote in polls but don't make a post.

*waves hello to fass*

*Deep breath*

.........I dunno....

Thread is another perfect waste of bandwidth.

Thread is another perfect waste of bandwidth.

You want to know what's a waste of bandwidth? The FCC website...that's a waste of bandwidth right there.

I am. Weeee. :D

Oh good...not a public poll.

WHICH ONE DID I PICK!?!?!

Oh good...not a public poll.

WHICH ONE DID I PICK!?!?!

Option C? :D

99% straight...i had a homosexual encounter once...-shakes head- boy, high school sure was an intresting time.

Totally gay. I probably score something around 11 on the Kinsey scale.

Most people don't realise I am, because I don't fit into their stereotypes, but I live my orientation openly and don't hesitate to tell the truth about it whenever I'm asked.

Totally gay. I probably score something around 11 on the Kinsey scale.

Most people don't realise I am, because I don't fit into their stereotypes, but I live my orientation openly and don't hesitate to tell the truth about it whenever I'm asked.
I couldn't have guessed. Always thought you were straight, myself. ;)

As for moi... triasexual. Why isn't there an option for that? Ritlina! :mad:

Im straight all the way. But if I were gay, i'd be open about it.

Sexuality is a spectrum...I fall more on the straight side, but that doesn't mean much to me.

And? Some people are insecure in thier homosexuality. I am simply giving them privacy.

It seems like a not so clever thing to do if your objective is "to see who here actually IS homosexual."

I am gay.

I do not "queen" out, and I am generally open about my orientation.

But, I due to the weird dynamics of being an actor in Hollywood, it can be an open secret, but if I ever confirm it in the press (if that ever happened), the oddest thing would happen. Certain roles would "dry up" for me.

JC

if i was gay, i wood have committed suicide by now :D

Bisexuality is a cop-out. Pick a team and stay on it.

And? Some people are insecure in thier homosexuality. I am simply giving them privacy.In that case, you didn't need to do a poll. Roughly 10% of both genders are bi. Roughly 10% of both genders are homosexual. The remainder are just boring.

Bisexuality is a cop-out. Pick a team and stay on it.

Why?

Am I gay?

no.

Why?

Because it's an excuse for guys to go "I had sex with a guy, BUT I'M NOT GAY" and girls to go "I had sex with a girl, BUT I'M NOT A LESBIAN."

you can be bi without liking men and women exactly equally. In which case you would not be "half" homosexual. :rolleyes:

Because it's an excuse for guys to go "I had sex with a guy, BUT I'M NOT GAY" and girls to go "I had sex with a girl, BUT I'M NOT A LESBIAN."Yes. We all know that homosexuality & bisexuality doesn't exist, and that heterosexuality is a conscious choice, made by heathens who wants God to throw lightning & floods att poor, black neighbourhoods in major American cities...

We're all bastarrds, let's carve ourselves into steaks & burn us!

Because it's an excuse for guys to go "I had sex with a guy, BUT I'M NOT GAY" and girls to go "I had sex with a girl, BUT I'M NOT A LESBIAN."

Which doesn't answer the question. Why should someone only have sex with members of one sex if he or she wishes to do otherwise?

Yes. We all know that homosexuality & bisexuality doesn't exist, and that heterosexuality is a conscious choice, made by heathens who wants God to throw lightning & floods att poor, black neighbourhoods in major American cities...

We're all bastarrds, let's carve ourselves into steaks & burn us!

Yeah, and you're a master of generalisation. I don't remember saying anything negative about homosexuality, and it just so happens that I was even discussing this bisexuality last week with my best friend, who is *gasp* gay, and we both agreed that it's just a total cop-out. It's the vogue thing to be, especially amongst the EAS (East Asian Studies) kids at my college. I think, if anything, it displays discomfort over one's sexual orientation rather than a choice or genetics. It's just a safe answer rather than forcing oneself to adhere, which goes along with the vogue thing--omfg, we don't conform~! We're not mainstream, just like all of these other people that we're emulating~!

I'm bi, and I love it.

I can sleep with anything :)

Mmm. Card-carrying, wife-beater wearing (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/ooberflube/application/956adada.jpg) lesbian. Then again, I'm wearing a bra, and most people would argue that's a case against me.

But trust me - I know my own gayness :D

I love how all of these threads get ugly. I'm pretty chill about the whole issue. I go to a private, religious high school, and I'm pretty much everyone's token lesbian because I'm not afraid to be out. They haven't staged an intervention yet, and with a month to go until I graduate, I think I'm safe. But I don't bother arguing (I will debate, if they agree to actually consider what I'm saying) with Christians about my homosexuality, either. I'm a Christian. I was raised Lutheran. I was never molested as a child, and I have a normal relationship with my parents. I know my God loves me and made me as I am. End of story :)

It's just a safe answer rather than forcing oneself to adhere

If you have to force yourself to adhere, why adhere?

Yeah, and you're a master of generalisation. I don't remember saying anything negative about homosexuality, and it just so happens that I was even discussing this bisexuality last week with my best friend, who is *gasp* gay, and we both agreed that it's just a total cop-out. It's the vogue thing to be, especially amongst the EAS (East Asian Studies) kids at my college. I think, if anything, it displays discomfort over one's sexual orientation rather than a choice or genetics. It's just a safe answer rather than forcing oneself to adhere, which goes along with the vogue thing--omfg, we don't conform~! We're not mainstream, just like all of these other people that we're emulating~!

I am bisexual. I like both guys and girls. I am direct proof that bisexual people exist. Open your mind, man.

Yeah, and you're a master of generalisation. I don't remember saying anything negative about homosexuality, and it just so happens that I was even discussing this bisexuality last week with my best friend, who is *gasp* gay, and we both agreed that it's just a total cop-out. It's the vogue thing to be, especially amongst the EAS (East Asian Studies) kids at my college. I think, if anything, it displays discomfort over one's sexual orientation rather than a choice or genetics. It's just a safe answer rather than forcing oneself to adhere, which goes along with the vogue thing--omfg, we don't conform~! We're not mainstream, just like all of these other people that we're emulating~!Know what? I'm pretty sure I can find someone that'll agree with me that some behaviour that bothers me, is simply something people do on purpose because they're either stupid, scared or both.

Mainstream pop-music springs to mind. Surely no one can actually like listening to that crap?!

...

The point is, just because it bothers you, you don't understand it, or some may emulate it in order to fit in with their peers, doesn't mean that the phenomena doesn't exist in its own right.

You & your gay friend's critique of bisexuality sounds exactly like the average US rightwing Christian's critique of homosexuality.

Really. Get over yourself. Whomever those kids chose to fuck, it isn't your problem. No one's forcing you to watch or participate.

Yeah, and you're a master of generalisation. I don't remember saying anything negative about homosexuality, and it just so happens that I was even discussing this bisexuality last week with my best friend, who is *gasp* gay, and we both agreed that it's just a total cop-out. It's the vogue thing to be, especially amongst the EAS (East Asian Studies) kids at my college. I think, if anything, it displays discomfort over one's sexual orientation rather than a choice or genetics. It's just a safe answer rather than forcing oneself to adhere, which goes along with the vogue thing--omfg, we don't conform~! We're not mainstream, just like all of these other people that we're emulating~!

Through my own experiences and that of my friends, I've learned that more often than not being bisexual is a transition stage. You're really not sure what you want (or who), but I don't think it's a cop out. Sure, I think it's crap when 15 year olds get drunk at parties and kiss other girls, then claim they're bi. But I also think that someone can, if only for a time, really like both girls and guys. I was bisexual for a year or so until I really discovered that I'm a lesbian. I liked and played around with both genders until I really settled down with who I was and what my preferences were.

I am not, except with Commie Catholics.:eek: I lie

I liked and played around with both genders until I really settled down with who I was and what my preferences were.

The thing is, some people, like myself, "settled down" into bisexuality. I'm 100% comfortable liking both, and went through my own period of confusion before that. I'm engaged to a girl, and plan to spend my life with her. Liking guys is just an extra thing we have in common. :cool:

It's a shame shes not the same way... :p

I am... but is that really an issue.. i mean why are we worried about whether we are out or not on an internet forum.. i mean it is not like we really know you people...

Nope. Never was, never hope tp be.

I am... but is that really an issue.. i mean why are we worried about whether we are out or not on an internet forum.. i mean it is not like we really know you people...

It's nice to be exposed to different kinds of people, as well as see that you aren't all alone in the world.

I'm not gay, but my boyfriend is. ;)

Seriously ... if I were 100% breeder, I'd have to kill myself. What a disgusting lifestyle choice. Hetero indeed. Bleh. Nasty fuckers. Should be shipped off to an island all by yourselves.

I'm not gay, but my boyfriend is. ;)

Seriously ... if I were 100% breeder, I'd have to kill myself. What a disgusting lifestyle choice. Hetero indeed. Bleh. Nasty fuckers. Should be shipped off to an island all by yourselves.
May the Lord be with you.






.. and also with you!

Because it's an excuse for guys to go "I had sex with a guy, BUT I'M NOT GAY" and girls to go "I had sex with a girl, BUT I'M NOT A LESBIAN."
Apart from, you know, the people who are acually bisexual.

You're confusing people who say it to try and be "cool" with people who say it because they are actually bisexual.

No.
It's just a passing fad with the new millenium, soon after this whole liberation wave blows over they will revert back to their secret lifestyles, the good ol' days.

Uh huh.

I'm not, but....does it really matter if I am anyway? I could be a bright blue alien hermaphrodite and none of you would know....

Well, we've all seen the big debate threads about homosexuality. So now I want to see, who here actually IS homosexual?
Bisexuals are not "half homosexual" or "half heterosexual." We are 100% bisexual.

I'm engaged to a girl, and plan to spend my life with her. Liking guys is just an extra thing we have in common. :cool:

It's a shame shes not the same way... :p
Yeah, I'm in a relationship with a really swell hetero boy. Wouldn't trade him for the world, but sometimes I wish...well, never mind exactly what I wish...;)

Queer as a three dollar bill. Got nothin against bisexuals, infact I think it's kind of hot, even if I'm personally not into women.

Asexual :p

Well, we've all seen the big debate threads about homosexuality. So now I want to see, who here actually IS homosexual?

You know what's so wrong about homosexuality, if there are two men, who has the vagina?

You know what's so wrong about homosexuality, if there are two men, who has the vagina?
You know what's wrong with homophobia? If there is one dude who is totally ignorant of the mechanics of sexplay, how will he ever get anywhere near a vagina?

Heterosexual. Almost disgustingly so! :D

God help me, I just love women so! Heh! :D

Nope. I've got to admit that I'm loving the ladies on this end.

Nope. I've got to admit that I'm loving the ladies on this end.
Whoa there, this is a family site! Don't go around talking about loving ladies on your end!

Nope. I've got to admit that I'm loving the ladies on this end.
So...does this make you a straight man or a gay woman?

I'm not gay, but at my school you wouldn't get through the year if you were a homophobe. I do have a friend that did lead a queer on once (accidently), that was quite funny. He even admits that he's virtually gay but he just doesn't like men.

You know what's wrong with homophobia? If there is one dude who is totally ignorant of the mechanics of sexplay, how will he ever get anywhere near a vagina?


If you purchase a sense of humor I'll throw in a personality for free.

So...does this make you a straight man or a gay woman?
Straight man.

Homosexual here. Maybe I should make a gay region... but I guess the population wouldn't ever rise.

I'm not, but....does it really matter if I am anyway? I could be a bright blue alien hermaphrodite and none of you would know....
I'd know, if only because of the camera placed in your computer.

Yes, I'm talking to you. And take off that mask, we both know you're not a Terran.

And eating the cat won't help allay your frustration at being found out. :rolleyes: ;)

If you purchase a sense of humor I'll throw in a personality for free.
I'm sorry, I cannot give you a cookie for that witty barb, because I am forbidden to feed the trolls. :(

I'd know, if only because of the camera placed in your computer.

Yes, I'm talking to you. And take off that mask, we both know you're not a Terran.

And eating the cat won't help allay your frustration at being found out. :rolleyes: ;)


YOU CAN SEE ME?!

*runs to put clothes back on*

YOU CAN SEE ME?!

*runs to put clothes back on*
I can see every computer user in the world, silly. What did you think?

That's how I found out Kanabia was actually a weasel who dictates all of his posts to his psychotic secretary... and Pure Metal is a puppet of Myrth... and The UN abassadorship is really Michael Savage... and the things I could tell you about Eutrusca or Dobbsworld, by Mod! ;)

Sure ain't, sorry.

I can see every computer user in the world, silly. What did you think?

That's how I found out Kanabia was actually a weasel who dictates all of his posts to his psychotic secretary... and Pure Metal is a puppet of Myrth... and The UN abassadorship is really Michael Savage... and the things I could tell you about Eutrusca or Dobbsworld, by Mod! ;)
What can you tell them about me?

Heterosexual. Almost disgustingly so! :D

God help me, I just love women so! Heh! :D
You are a dirty old man Eutrusuca.

What can you tell them about me?
Besides what they already know... not much.

You know what's so wrong about homosexuality, if there are two men, who has the vagina?
Psst there are female homosexuals too ... they both have one then

Homosexual here. Maybe I should make a gay region... but I guess the population wouldn't ever rise.
Region or nation? There is a region called "gay".

Psst there are female homosexuals too ... they both have one then
Wait, are you suggesting that there are women who ENJOY sexual activity? Or women who are capable of living WITHOUT A PENIS-BEARER?

Surely you jest.

Wait, are you suggesting that there are women who ENJOY sexual activity? Or women who are capable of living WITHOUT A PENIS-BEARER?

Surely you jest.
:eek: I dont jest and dont call me Surely (sorry bad airplane joke):fluffle:

:eek: I dont jest and dont call me Surely (sorry bad airplane joke):fluffle:
OMG yay for Airplane.

That movie is old enough now that there are far too many people who haven't seen it. Kids today have no respect for the classics.

Bisexuality is a cop-out. Pick a team and stay on it.


it isnt at all, im bi and i generally do find both guys and gals sexually amusing :D

it makes sex more interesting.

I'm not. So what does that make me?

I'm not. So what does that make me?
I was under the impression that you styled yourself as "biasexual", or one less than me.

I was under the impression that you styled yourself as "biasexual", or one less than me.

Heh, yeah. Something like that.

Psst there are female homosexuals too ... they both have one then

:eek:


Next you'll be telling me there are men that want to be women and women who want to be men!

You are a dirty old man Eutrusuca.
Well, I use to be a "dirty young man," but eventually my uber-sexiness allowed me to reach a point where I was older, so draw your own conclusions. :D

Draw your own conclusions? You're that creepy guy down the street who offers the girls candy while keeping one hand in your pocket ain't ya?!

Draw your own conclusions? You're that creepy guy down the street who offers the girls candy while keeping one hand in your pocket ain't ya?!
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Yeah, and you're a master of generalisation. I don't remember saying anything negative about homosexuality, and it just so happens that I was even discussing this bisexuality last week with my best friend, who is *gasp* gay, and we both agreed that it's just a total cop-out. It's the vogue thing to be, especially amongst the EAS (East Asian Studies) kids at my college. I think, if anything, it displays discomfort over one's sexual orientation rather than a choice or genetics. It's just a safe answer rather than forcing oneself to adhere, which goes along with the vogue thing--omfg, we don't conform~! We're not mainstream, just like all of these other people that we're emulating~!

I'm Bisexual myself. But even I try to shirk away from that title just because there's so many idiot fucking kids latching onto it dispite the fact they are Seriously not turned on by members of their own sex.

However I am often physically turned on by members of my own gender but then I am turned on by a lot more women than blokes. I vastly prefer the fairer sex.

I couldn't give two flying fucks where the mainstream or the alternatives want to or don't want to or pretend to want to stick their dicks. I know what gets a fucking boner out of me and that's all I have to say about that. It doesn't make me remarkable. It doesn't make me unique. It doesn't add diversity and fucking sparkle to whatever clique or posse I run with. It's just a way of discribing what I do and want to get upto in bed

Bisexuals are shallow.
It's obvious they are only attracted to the sexual aspect of a relationship.
Hormones don't allow you to love two genders equally.
They're users.

I myself am BI, but I lean twords men.

I personaly live with my BF of 7 years now, left my ex-wife for him. I can still find women atractive but realy only on a sexual level. On a relatlionship/emotional level I realy only identify with guys.

Bisexuals are shallow.
It's obvious they are only attracted to the sexual aspect of a relationship.
Hormones don't allow you to love two genders equally.
They're users.


So you're a PHD in human sexuality now? Curious.


I do so loathe closet cases who think they know everything. Tell me truely, which gender do you think of at night when you touch yourself?

So you're a PHD in human sexuality now? Curious.


I do so loathe closet cases who think they know everything. Tell me truely, which gender do you think of at night when you touch yourself?

What a pathetic point.
I don't touch myself at night, only the thirteen year old wet-dreamers are still in that state, such as yourself.

But yes, I find women more physically, verbally and mentally attractive than men.
You can't love two genders the exact same, you can love two genders but it is obvious while with one of them you would be thinking of the one you loved most.

But with that, the bisexual would still sleep with the man/woman even though loving the opposite gender moreso thus he/she is a user of sex.

Bisexual doesn't mean you're doing them both at the same time ya twit.

What a pathetic point.
I don't touch myself at night, only the thirteen year old wet-dreamers are still in that state, such as yourself.

But yes, I find women more physically, verbally and mentally attractive than men.
You can't love two genders the exact same, you can love two genders but it is obvious while with one of them you would be thinking of the one you loved most.

But with that, the bisexual would still sleep with the man/woman even though loving the opposite gender moreso thus he/she is a user of sex.
Unlike some shallow people I love the people not the gender they happen to be.

What a pathetic point.
I don't touch myself at night, only the thirteen year old wet-dreamers are still in that state, such as yourself.

But yes, I find women more physically, verbally and mentally attractive than men.
You can't love two genders the exact same, you can love two genders but it is obvious while with one of them you would be thinking of the one you loved most.

But with that, the bisexual would still sleep with the man/woman even though loving the opposite gender moreso thus he/she is a user of sex.



I dissagree there, I know of 2 couples off the top of my head that are true bi. One is 2 women one guy, and the other is 2 guys one woman. In both cases there is no real preference for eather gender.

Im not gay but I think the gays have given are vocab a bit of a boost

I HAVE NOT used these in offencif ways but are slang words

Queer
Fag
Faggot
Queerbo
Arse bandit(sorry)
Gay(in this form)
Panzy(yes this is what it means)
Homo(duh)

Bisexual doesn't mean you're doing them both at the same time ya twit.

No shit Sherlock Holmes, what a brilliant discovery on your behalf.
Bisexual means you love both genders equally, now I know some ignorant people will say this is possible but it is simply not.

You can love both genders, you can have a girlfriend and have platonic love for your male friends however you can't have equal platonic love for both genders, there will be one you love more thus the one you like less, you are obviously using because it isn't right to be with someone you don't love.

Bisexuals are shallow.
It's obvious they are only attracted to the sexual aspect of a relationship.
Hormones don't allow you to love two genders equally.
They're users.
Bullshit ... I have dated both genders (not at the same time) in long term relationships. It was not about the sex, I just fell in love with the people regardless of gender.

No shit Sherlock Holmes, what a brilliant discovery on your behalf.
Bisexual means you love both genders equally, now I know some ignorant people will say this is possible but it is simply not.

You can love both genders, you can have a girlfriend and have platonic love for your male friends however you can't have equal platonic love for both genders, there will be one you love more thus the one you like less, you are obviously using because it isn't right to be with someone you don't love.
I have loved members of both genders.

Bisexual doesn't mean you're doing them both at the same time ya twit.

But it can :D

Bullshit ... I have dated both genders (not at the same time) in long term relationships. It was not about the sex, I just fell in love with the people regardless of gender.


Here here well said!

I have loved members of both genders.

That isn't what I'm saying.
You can love both genders but you obviously find one gender more appealing, wether it be men or women, there is no way you can love both genders which are so distant the exact same. You either love men more or you love women more and by being with the other you are proving you aren't being loyal to them as you should only be with someone you love the most.

Bisexual doesn't mean you're doing them both at the same time ya twit.Nah, that's just a Liberal lie. Everyone knows bisexuals only have orgeys, rape defenseless sheep & steal from the church box :rolleyes:

I don't touch myself at night, only the thirteen year old wet-dreamers are still in that state, such as yourself.Odd.. And here I thought most people masturbated quite frequently.

You can't love two genders the exact same, you can love two genders but it is obvious while with one of them you would be thinking of the one you loved most.I personally aren't attracted to identical things in men & women. If I were, I'd consider myself attracted to genderless people, rather than to both sexes. I have a feeling most bisexuals share that view.

But with that, the bisexual would still sleep with the man/woman even though loving the opposite gender moreso thus he/she is a user of sex.You just jumped from (completely baselessly, but somewhat accurately) guessing that bisexuals don't love the same things in both genders, to concluding that bisexuals are more taken by one gender, to concluding that bisexuals can't fall in love with anything other than their dream-lover.

Mate.. I'll bet you the f'in Eiffel Tower that you don't fit your own criteria. Why the hell would you make such a load of bollox assumptions?

Oh sweet bloodyminded ignorant prejudice...

You bet I am and I wouldn't like it any other way! ;)

That isn't what I'm saying.
You can love both genders but you obviously find one gender more appealing, wether it be men or women, there is no way you can love both genders which are so distant the exact same. You either love men more or you love women more and by being with the other you are proving you aren't being loyal to them as you should only be with someone you love the most.
I have never been able to tell which gender I care more for ... if you have some magic way please let me know

Because from all I can tell it is all about the person not the gender

That isn't what I'm saying.
You can love both genders but you obviously find one gender more appealing, wether it be men or women, there is no way you can love both genders which are so distant the exact same. You either love men more or you love women more and by being with the other you are proving you aren't being loyal to them as you should only be with someone you love the most.


read my post above. This is clearly somethign you are just not seeing from the right angle.

It is posible, quite posible to love both genders the same, in fact it happens all the time. Also, I think you labor under the shadow of thinking all relationships must be mongomous to equate to love. This is just not the case eather. It is very posible to be polyamours and still love each person in the relationship the same.

Bisexual means you love both genders equally, now I know some ignorant people will say this is possible but it is simply not.I bow before your unequivocal proof.

I have never been able to tell which gender I care more for ... if you have some magic way please let me know

Because from all I can tell it is all about the person not the gender

If you love both genders the exact same then it would be impossible to ever become married, unless you pulled some stunt only allowed on international waters. Heterosexuals only marry the opposite sex, Homosexuals only marry the same sex..

So be logic a Bisexual would marry both sexes? The fuck?
Which reverts back to my point about bisexuality only being about sex and not about a meaningful relationship.

That isn't what I'm saying.
You can love both genders but you obviously find one gender more appealing, wether it be men or women, there is no way you can love both genders which are so distant the exact same. You either love men more or you love women more and by being with the other you are proving you aren't being loyal to them as you should only be with someone you love the most.That's insane!

Do you yourself love an entire gender?!

Whatever floats your boat. I fall in love with individuals, not 50-100% of the human population.

To answer the first question, yes I am "queer"... I didn't answer your question exactly because I'd like to make a few clarifications. I'm a 19 year old male college student who has attraction to both men and women. The frequency with which I'm attracted to men over women is about 1000:1. Basically I have a much higher chance of being attracted to guys than girls, but the attraction itself is the same. I get a boner just as easily with a girl I'm into as with a guy I'm into, I'm just more FREQUENTLY attracted to guys. I'm being hyperbolic (using exaggeration for effect) when I say 1000:1 but I AM trying to get a point across. When I came out as gay it was really confusing for me whenever the rare occurance of actually finding a girl attractive came about. I thought for a while that I was confused about actually liking girls HAHAHAHA. Reverse closeted -ness in essence lol. Some of you keep arguing that bisexuals don't exist. Technically, despite that I hate labels because they can be as confining as they are defining, I'm bisexual, having attraction to both genders to whatever degree. Yeah, I'm sure there are SOME people that SAY they're bisexual because at least still having some attraction to the opposite sex is better than being completely "hopeless" and not liking them at all.. but I"ll also say there are people that legitimately like both sexes... genders... whatever you want to call it... That's my point of view.:D

If you love both genders the exact same then it would be impossible to ever become married, unless you pulled some stunt only allowed on international waters. Heterosexuals only marry the opposite sex, Homosexuals only marry the same sex..

So be logic a Bisexual would marry both sexes? The fuck?
Which reverts back to my point about bisexuality only being about sex and not about a meaningful relationship.
WTF? No bisexual does not mean you want to marry BOTH

It means you would not mind marrying EITHER.

Seriously how old are you?

Please at least TRY to use some logic?

If you love both genders the exact same then it would be impossible to ever become married, unless you pulled some stunt only allowed on international waters. Heterosexuals only marry the opposite sex, Homosexuals only marry the same sex..

So be logic a Bisexual would marry both sexes? The fuck?
Which reverts back to my point about bisexuality only being about sex and not about a meaningful relationship.Ok.. Let's see here..

WHY would a homosexual not marry someone of the opposite sex?
WHY would a heterosexual not marry someone of the same sex?

Do you think is has something to do with.. Hmm.. Love?

WTF? No bisexual does not mean you want to marry BOTH

It means you would not mind marrying EITHER.

Seriously how old are you?

Please at least TRY to use some logic?

If a bisexual marries a man he is a homosexual.
If he marries a woman he is a heterosexual.

So if he still has feelings for the other it proves my point that bisexuality is only about sex because obviously he favoured one gender to marry that particular one.

Thus explaining your fucking stupidity.

Really guys, this is just a message board, a place to chill out and maybe have a decent conversation. Unless you have a PhD in any subject relating to the genetics of human sexuality, you cannot know with 100% certainty that true bisexuality does not exist. Heck, the experts are still baffled.

Yes, there are a lot of people who say they are bisexual. Some are in a transition period into their true sexuality, others are saying it to appear more sensitive to their conquests, while others may genuinely have no preference for one sex over the other. I would call that rare, but likely.

I know what trips my trigger as a gay man, and that's good enough for me. That is, until I have a partner...and then I want to know what trips his trigger intellectually, emotionally and sexually.

That is the beauty of human sexuality, it ranges the wide spectrum.

Ultimately, I believe in love...it makes me old-fashioned and perhaps a tad naive, but there you have it.

JC

If a bisexual marries a man he is a homosexual.
If he marries a woman he is a heterosexual.

So if he still has feelings for the other it proves my point that bisexuality is only about sex because obviously he favoured one gender to marry that particular one.

Thus explaining your fucking stupidity.
Sexuality is about attraction not about who you marry

Somehow committing to one individual does not change my sexual preferences. If you can’t understand that it is not my stupidity that you aught to be worried about

Ok.. Let's see here..

WHY would a homosexual not marry someone of the opposite sex?
WHY would a heterosexual not marry someone of the same sex?

Do you think is has something to do with.. Hmm.. Love?

EXACTLY!
You are contradicting yourself so terribly it is laughable.
My point was that a homosexual would obviously only marry someone of the same sex because he LOVES them.
A heterosexual would only marry someone of the opposite sex because he LOVES them.

If a homosexual married someone of the opposite sex it wouldn't be for LOVE it would be for SEX.

If a heterosexual married someone of the same sex it wouldn't be for LOVE it would be for SEX.


Thank you for proving my point correct.

If a bisexual marries a man he is a homosexual.
If he marries a woman he is a heterosexual.Ok.. Is this like saying "If a heterosexual marries the opposite sex, then s/he becomes the opposite sex?"

Are you sure you don't mean that married people magically become asexual?So if he still has feelings for the other it proves my point that bisexuality is only about sex because obviously he favoured one gender to marry that particular one.Nope. Proves the same as some hetero or homo guy proves, when he's unfaithful.Thus explaining your fucking stupidity.Indeed :rolleyes:

My point was that a homosexual would obviously only marry someone of the same sex because he LOVES them.
A heterosexual would only marry someone of the opposite sex because he LOVES them.

If a homosexual married someone of the opposite sex it wouldn't be for LOVE it would be for SEX.
And not for reasons of social pressure?

:eek:


Next you'll be telling me there are men that want to be women and women who want to be men!
Nah, that's just disgusting.

EXACTLY!
You are contradicting yourself so terribly it is laughable.
My point was that a homosexual would obviously only marry someone of the same sex because he LOVES them.
A heterosexual would only marry someone of the opposite sex because he LOVES them.

If a homosexual married someone of the opposite sex it wouldn't be for LOVE it would be for SEX.

If a heterosexual married someone of the same sex it wouldn't be for LOVE it would be for SEX.


Thank you for proving my point correct.So if I marry my girlfriend tomorrow, she divorces me in a year, and I fall in love with a guy & re-marry in 2 years, I'm suddenly no longer a bisexual.. Not to mention that I'm incapable of falling in love?

You're... Amazing..

If a bisexual marries a man he is a homosexual.
If he marries a woman he is a heterosexual.

So if he still has feelings for the other it proves my point that bisexuality is only about sex because obviously he favoured one gender to marry that particular one.

Thus explaining your fucking stupidity.

No, no, no! People don't marry other people just because they like their gender. They generally do it because they're in love with the person. If a bisexual man (Alex) marries a woman (Sandy), it's because he fell in love with Sandy. If Alex and Sandy had never met in that line at the bank, it's quite possible that Alex could have fallen in love with Michael. Just because Alex falls in love with Sandy does not mean that he is not bisexual, or that he is only interested in men for sex. It means that he has found what he needs in Sandy, and Sandy happens to be female.

Mmm. Card-carrying, wife-beater wearing (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/ooberflube/application/956adada.jpg) lesbian. Then again, I'm wearing a bra, and most people would argue that's a case against me.

But trust me - I know my own gayness :D

I love how all of these threads get ugly. I'm pretty chill about the whole issue. I go to a private, religious high school, and I'm pretty much everyone's token lesbian because I'm not afraid to be out. They haven't staged an intervention yet, and with a month to go until I graduate, I think I'm safe. But I don't bother arguing (I will debate, if they agree to actually consider what I'm saying) with Christians about my homosexuality, either. I'm a Christian. I was raised Lutheran. I was never molested as a child, and I have a normal relationship with my parents. I know my God loves me and made me as I am. End of story :)

Your parents still speek to you? I'm not out or anything well not to my parents or firends so not really anybody, and I'm not even sure I am gay. My parents are very strick Christians and would kick me out of the house if they even suspected i was gay so i do everything i can to make it not apparent. I don't really know any other gay people cuz of my parents so i don't really know anything about them or even about myself but maybe one day i will figure out if i'm gay or not

Your parents still speek to you? I'm not out or anything well not to my parents or firends so not really anybody, and I'm not even sure I am gay. My parents are very strick Christians and would kick me out of the house if they even suspected i was gay so i do everything i can to make it not apparent. I don't really know any other gay people cuz of my parents so i don't really know anything about them or even about myself but maybe one day i will figure out if i'm gay or not
My parents are the same way ... trust me I understand

I feel bad for people with parents like that. I knew my mom wouldn't care the slightest, but my dad is different. I won't be telling him for a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time.

I feel bad for people with parents like that. I knew my mom wouldn't care the slightest, but my dad is different. I won't be telling him for a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time.
Well thats what happens when you get hardcore catholic parents

Hell they blamed me for what the priest did to me for years...

Sometimes stupid people abound

I feel bad for people with parents like that. I knew my mom wouldn't care the slightest, but my dad is different. I won't be telling him for a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time.To be honest, I have no idea how my dad would react if I were gay. My mom wouldn't mind (though that doesn't necessarily mean she wouldn't care... I'd probably be more afraid of telling her because of all the questions she might riddle me with...)

My sympathy to anyone with parents that wouldn't tolerate that :(

My mom freaked me out by saying "I already know."

It was particularly odd to me because I'm not the least bit obvious. I'm as they say "straight acting" (:rolleyes:) so for her to know already (and know for quite some time before me even!) is weird.

My mom freaked me out by saying "I already know."

It was particularly odd to me because I'm not the least bit obvious. I'm as they say "straight acting" (:rolleyes:) so for her to know already (and know for quite some time before me even!) is weird.
Yeah ... my parents go with the average steriotypes ... they figure because I still farm with them ... love offroading and trucks and all that jazz that I must be strait lol

How did y'all know you were gay. like in the small amout of freedom i do get from my parents i've fooled around with a female friend, a bit but i've never even kissed a guy so i have no idea. But i do tend to look at girls more then guys.

ya my mom did the I already know thing to an extent. She went behind my back and told my youth paster i was questioning things and so now he watches me all the time and i am never aloud to be alone with female friends at all. I'm watched all the time now and if i have firends over it must be more then two and there must be one guy in the group and we can never be out of her sight.

I've always known in the long run. It wasn't official until I hit puberty and stuff started to react. :p

Yeah ... my parents go with the average steriotypes ... they figure because I still farm with them ... love offroading and trucks and all that jazz that I must be strait lol

Gotta love those stereotypes. :mp5:

Seriously, for anyone who's thinking of coming out, I'd suggest coming out to a friend first (preferably, someone who you know doesn't think AIDS is God's revenge). Alternatively, there's always the internet (if parents aren't always checking up on what websites you visit). A lot of the time, it really helps to just have someone to talk to.

How did y'all know you were gay. like in the small amout of freedom i do get from my parents i've fooled around with a female friend, a bit but i've never even kissed a guy so i have no idea. But i do tend to look at girls more then guys.

ya my mom did the I already know thing to an extent. She went behind my back and told my youth paster i was questioning things and so now he watches me all the time and i am never aloud to be alone with female friends at all. I'm watched all the time now and if i have firends over it must be more then two and there must be one guy in the group and we can never be out of her sight.

I was in my early 20s before I admitted to myself that I was gay. Before that I was desperately trying to be even remotely attracted to women. Finally said fuck it. I may be the slightest bit bisexual, but so far haven't found a woman I was at all interested in.

My advice on sexuality, don't rush it, you'll figure it out eventually. As for coming out to anyone, it's none of their fuckin business. If you insist upon doing so, wait til you're financially independant of your parents before you do. To avoid any complications.

Alternatively, there's always the internet (if parents aren't always checking up on what websites you visit). A lot of the time, it really helps to just have someone to talk to.

Yeah, the first time I ever told anybody about my feelings was on the internet...there's that added anonymity which helps you feel safer in telling people things. Then I talked about it a bit with people online, before telling two very close friends. Both were fine, and now I'm just working up to telling my family.

Not that I know off, I've never felt attracted to another man before, nor do I enjoy looking at a man's body, it doesn't digsut me, I just don't really care

Because it's an excuse for guys to go "I had sex with a guy, BUT I'M NOT GAY" and girls to go "I had sex with a girl, BUT I'M NOT A LESBIAN."


omg - you are really that clueless??

I'm bi because I'm attracted to both sexes. Ditto goes for my wife. We don't do it for a chance to tell anyone anything about our sexual orientation. We just like to have fun.

Wow, good thread. I've been off the forums for about a year, but this is just too interesting. I agree with Khadgar; just do what feels natural to you. I played it straight until I was 19, when I realized that it just wasn't working for me. I was fortunate in that my family was very accepting of it, and so were most of my friends, but no matter how people react you have to do what feels natural for you.

WTF? No bisexual does not mean you want to marry BOTH

It means you would not mind marrying EITHER.

Seriously how old are you?

Please at least TRY to use some logic?


Actually I am bisexual only for the sex, but do not want to marry a man and I've never wanted to actually have a romantic relationship with a man. I suppose it is possible, and perhaps conditioning has somethign to do with it for all I know.

I was in my early 20s before I admitted to myself that I was gay. Before that I was desperately trying to be even remotely attracted to women. Finally said fuck it. I may be the slightest bit bisexual, but so far haven't found a woman I was at all interested in.

My advice on sexuality, don't rush it, you'll figure it out eventually. As for coming out to anyone, it's none of their fuckin business. If you insist upon doing so, wait til you're financially independant of your parents before you do. To avoid any complications.

oh i could care less if my family ever knew i was gay. There oppion isn't that i'mportant to me at all and i doubt they will ever know cuz they already dissagree with the gay lifestyle. Though i'd like to tell some of my firneds just becasue i feel like they don't know the real me but i wont do that till next year when i'm finaly off to collage just incase they tell my parents. But i'm not financially dependant on my parents in the least i have a full scholership and have a bunch saved so i'm okay as far as that goes.

Because it's an excuse for guys to go "I had sex with a guy, BUT I'M NOT GAY" and girls to go "I had sex with a girl, BUT I'M NOT A LESBIAN."

hey thats not fair, its not true

why is open minded not at option? im gonna have to go for bi now. thing is, i dont mind either sex as long as i like them. so no i wudnt back out or anything. im openly bi. but dont tell my father that. hes a homophobe.

No.
And I almost never debate about the subject.

i dont understand this post, its just creating rifts with the players, mods i plead u, close this post down!:fluffle:

i dont understand this post, its just creating rifts with the players, mods i plead u, close this post down!:fluffle:

You are obviously a n00bert.

Every thread on NS General is a potential rift creator.

its not the same though and NO this is just a new account, im actually a v. annoyin one called Muftwafa. :p so there u must b a hermaphrodite.:upyours:

its not the same though and NO this is just a new account, im actually a v. annoyin one called Muftwafa. :p so there u must b a hermaphrodite.:upyours:
12?

12?
wot the hell? 12? im not 12!!! and no my post isnt 2 as i explained

look if you lot want to discuss ur bf's and gf's or both or neither neuturs, ill leave and let u tear each other apart!:rolleyes:

wot the hell? 12? im not 12!!! and no my post isnt 2 as i explained
OK, OK, I realise 12 was too high an estimation. Sorry.

its not the same though and NO this is just a new account, im actually a v. annoyin one called Muftwafa. :p so there u must b a hermaphrodite.:upyours:

HOw is it not the same? We here on NSG love to share controversial things and debate our opposing points of view. This more often than not pits people against each other.

And I WISH I was a hermaphrodite. They really turn me on.

And I WISH I was a hermaphrodite. They really turn me on.The right bits for all occations.. I s'pose there's something to be said for that.

God forgive me, but yes I am.

God forgive me, but yes I am.


Ok, since you asked... I forgive you.

And I WISH I was a hermaphrodite. They really turn me on.

Yeah I think LIFE had a documentary on a hermaphrodite male named 'Bear' he weighed like 250 lbs. had a vagina and a penis and was involved in various gay pornographies. How is this erotic.

Yeah I think LIFE had a documentary on a hermaphrodite male named 'Bear' he weighed like 250 lbs. had a vagina and a penis and was involved in various gay pornographies. How is this erotic.
Because not all hermaphrodites look like bear

I dated one a few years back ... he was hot.

Yeah I think LIFE had a documentary on a hermaphrodite male named 'Bear' he weighed like 250 lbs. had a vagina and a penis and was involved in various gay pornographies. How is this erotic.


It isn't but if I were a hermaphrodite I would be hot and it would therefore be very erotic.

It isn't but if I were a hermaphrodite I would be hot and it would therefore be very erotic.
I bet it would be!

Because not all hermaphrodites look like bear

I dated one a few years back ... he was hot.

It's rather sad that that actually had to be said.

You dated a hermaphrodite? you lucky bastard!

Is this just 11 pages of I'm gay/not/bi/drunk?

Bisexuals are shallow.
It's obvious they are only attracted to the sexual aspect of a relationship.
Hormones don't allow you to love two genders equally.
They're users.

I see. And you know all of this how, exactly?

I bet it would be!


at least I would turn myself on :p

It's rather sad that that actually had to be said.

You dated a hermaphrodite? you lucky bastard!

This topic is getting a little too disgusting.

at least I would turn myself on :p
Who needs more than that?

It's rather sad that that actually had to be said.

You dated a hermaphrodite? you lucky bastard!
Yup ... He leaned more twards masculine but I was fine with that (attitude and dress that is ... he was one of the rare gems that had fully developed organs of both rather then ambigious)

This topic is getting a little too disgusting.

Well you know what they say... if you can't take the heat, shame on you, fool me twice, get out of the kitchen

Who needs more than that?

Well I wouldnt be aadverse to my partner gettign turned on by me either :cool:

This topic is getting a little too disgusting.
I find the topic less so then your viewpoint

Well you know what they say... if you can't take the heat, shame on you, fool me twice, get out of the kitchen

Ironic you should say anything about a kitchen.

Well I wouldnt be aadverse to my partner gettign turned on by me either :cool:
Pfft, other people are overrated.

If you love both genders the exact same then it would be impossible to ever become married, unless you pulled some stunt only allowed on international waters. Heterosexuals only marry the opposite sex, Homosexuals only marry the same sex..

So be logic a Bisexual would marry both sexes? The fuck?
Which reverts back to my point about bisexuality only being about sex and not about a meaningful relationship.

No. A heterosexual does not marry "the opposite sex," he or she marries a member of the opposite sex. A homosexual does not marry "the same sex," he or she marries a member of the same sex. A bisexual does not marry "both sexes," he or she marries a member of either sex.

No. A heterosexual does not marry "the opposite sex," he or she marries a member of the opposite sex. A homosexual does not marry "the same sex," he or she marries a member of the same sex. A bisexual does not marry "both sexes," he or she marries a member of either sex.
From his performance so far I doubt he will catch the subtle but important difference

Yup ... He leaned more twards masculine but I was fine with that (attitude and dress that is ... he was one of the rare gems that had fully developed organs of both rather then ambigious)


Wow, I've never actually met one (as far as I know), but have always had questions I wanted to ask them about growing up like that, and what experiences they have gone thru because of their differences. I'm sure the answers would vary from person to person, especially since there are so many variables that can be different among them. I'd also want to check out the goods :D

So basically a bisexual is just a confused homosexual who has to torture girls emotionally by not admitting his sexual preference for men?
Terrible people.

Ironic you should say anything about a kitchen.

How so?

Pfft, other people are overrated.


My wife isn't overrated! :p

Wow, I've never actually met one (as far as I know), but have always had questions I wanted to ask them about growing up like that, and what experiences they have gone thru because of their differences. I'm sure the answers would vary from person to person, especially since there are so many variables that can be different among them. I'd also want to check out the goods :D
Yeah from his experiences I would not want to live his life even with the shit I had to put up with being abused

Sexuality is a spectrum...I fall more on the straight side, but that doesn't mean much to me.Keeping your options open,are you?

So basically a bisexual is just a confused homosexual who has to torture girls emotionally by not admitting his sexual preference for men?
Terrible people.


My wife has known all along my preference for men AND women in the sack and loves it because she is the same way. Please try to keep up.

From his performance so far I doubt he will catch the subtle but important difference

Yes I understand the concept of individuality fully.
However, I also understand the concept of true love, not sexual infatuation which you call love.

Yeah from his experiences I would not want to live his life even with the shit I had to put up with being abused

Oh? that bad? :(

So basically a bisexual is just a confused homosexual who has to torture girls emotionally by not admitting his sexual preference for men?
Terrible people.

Do you enjoy making stuff up as you go along?

My wife has known all along my preference for men AND women in the sack and loves it because she is the same way. Please try to keep up.

So then it's either:
A) You just love men for one-night-stands
B) You love men truthfully and can never be truly in love because it is impossible for a woman to fit the bill of man and woman at the same fucking time.

Yes I understand the concept of individuality fully.
However, I also understand the concept of true love, not sexual infatuation which you call love.


Well then one day I hope you find love. I know it looks hopeless because so many people have a hard time stomaching your views, but keep that chin up.

BTW I never saw Upward say that sexual infatuation was his idea of love. COuld you point that post out? THought not. Have a nice troll, see you next tiem you puke out another batch of verbal diarreah.

Yes I understand the concept of individuality fully.
However, I also understand the concept of true love, not sexual infatuation which you call love.
Apparently not because thus far you explain love as being towards a gender rather then an individual

I happen to be able to fall in love with an INDIVIDUAL from either sex

Its not about sexual gratification its about love

So then it's either:
A) You just love men for one-night-stands
B) You love men truthfully and can never be truly in love because it is impossible for a woman to fit the bill of man and woman at the same fucking time.

Or:

C) You are capable of loving both men and women truthfully, and happened to fall in love with a woman.

Where did you get your detailed knowledge of bisexuality? If I happen not to exist, it would be nice to know for sure.

So then it's either:
A) You just love men for one-night-stands
B) You love men truthfully and can never be truly in love because it is impossible for a woman to fit the bill of man and woman at the same fucking time.
They don’t have to fit the bill of both … either one is good enough for me as long as they are a person I can love

So then it's either:
A) You just love men for one-night-stands
B) You love men truthfully and can never be truly in love because it is impossible for a woman to fit the bill of man and woman at the same fucking time.

Nice to know that the world is so black and white.

I love all people and yes I do like men just for sex. And my wife whom I love very much is fine with it. Sex does not equal love little one. I love someone for who they are, not what they have between their legs. Lust and love are two different things, which you seemed to try to imply earlier although very awkwardly. Just because you cannot conceive of someone separating love and sex, doesnt mean it isnt possible.

Well then one day I hope you find love. I know it looks hopeless because so many people have a hard time stomaching your views, but keep that chin up.

BTW I never saw Upward say that sexual infatuation was his idea of love. COuld you point that post out? THought not. Have a nice troll, see you next tiem you puke out another bout of verbal diarreah.
I think he thinks I do one night stands… my last three relationships have broke the year mark with the last two breaking the two year mark

I think he thinks I do one night stands… my last three relationships have broke the year mark with the last two breaking the two year mark


that's cuz yer so lovable - awwwwwwwwwww :fluffle:

that's cuz yer so lovable - awwwwwwwwwww :fluffle:
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What I never got is as much crap as we get from suposedly strait people like him/her it still hurts with how much we take from the homosexual community sometimes

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What I never got is as much crap as we get from suposedly strait people like him/her it still hurts with how much we take from the homosexual community sometimes


I don't get it either - it does seem though that bisexuality is becommign more and more accepted these days though. Or perhaps I amjust seeing what I want to believe.

I don't get it either - it does seem though that bisexuality is becommign more and more accepted these days though. Or perhaps I amjust seeing what I want to believe.

I don't really get it either. It was never much of an issue with me. When I first found myself attracted to a girl, I thought to myself, "Am I a lesbian?.....Nope, still definitely attracted to guys......Bisexual then, I suppose."

I'm pretty much an absolute monogamist though, so now that I'm getting married, looks like my opportunities to date girls are over. =)

I don't really get it either. It was never much of an issue with me. When I first found myself attracted to a girl, I thought to myself, "Am I a lesbian?.....Nope, still definitely attracted to guys......Bisexual then, I suppose."

I'm pretty much an absolute monogamist though, so now that I'm getting married, looks like my opportunities to date girls are over. =)
Oh well all good video opertunities must come to an end :p :fluffle:

I am heterosexual.

In that case, you didn't need to do a poll. Roughly 10% of both genders are bi. Roughly 10% of both genders are homosexual. The remainder are just boring.
If 10% of both genders are bi and gay, then why are there many more female bisexuals than males? Why are there more homosexual men than women?

If 10% of both genders are bi and gay, then why are there many more female bisexuals than males? Why are there more homosexual men than women?
While I have seen the prevalence of female bisexuals I have never seen any data to show that there are less female homosexuals before

If 10% of both genders are bi and gay, then why are there many more female bisexuals than males? Why are there more homosexual men than women?

I think the issue with not having as many bi guys as girls is that, in our society, a bi girl is "hot" while a bi guy is considered immasculine and a closet homosexual.

If 10% of both genders are bi and gay, then why are there many more female bisexuals than males? Why are there more homosexual men than women?Because there's great disparity between what people will admit when anonymity is guaranteed, and when they have to deal with the consequences.

I think the issue with not having as many bi guys as girls is that, in our society, a bi girl is "hot" while a bi guy is considered immasculine and a closet homosexual.
I agree. I think that it's because those in society who are doing the "considering" are straight men.

I agree. I think that it's because those in society who are doing the "considering" are straight men.

why can straight guys not understand and accept the fact that men can be gay and bi and still b good ppl. one of my friends is gay and every straight "man" out there looks at him as though his outta this world

why can straight guys not understand and accept the fact that men can be gay and bi and still b good ppl. one of my friends is gay and every straight "man" out there looks at him as though his outta this world

The people that criticize other people based on their sexuality are likely insecure about their own sexuality, and are trying to cover it up. Ignore them. I know people that are homosexual and bi, and it doesn't bother me.

It isn't but if I were a hermaphrodite I would be hot and it would therefore be very erotic.
Don't be silly, all those who don't conform to our usual stereotype* are degenerates.

(*XY = penis = male = a man, no matter what.
XX - vagina = female = a nice, submissive female, no matter what.
No others exist)

I'm mostly straight. If Kiera Knightley ever switched teams, though...

Don't be silly, all those who don't conform to our usual stereotype* are degenerates.

(*XY = penis = male = a man, no matter what.
XX - vagina = female = a nice, submissive female, no matter what.
No others exist)

I bet you are Albert Einstein in disguise.

Do not discuss Genetics if you don't know anything about the subject.

*There are several atypical gender identities, that is, gender identities that do not correspond to the much more common ones, male and female. Gender identities are, primarily, determined by whether the individuals in question consider themselves to be boys, girls, men, women, or something else.

The sex of an individual is generally determined by examining one's external genitalia. Most of the time this method is adequate, but sometimes the differentiation of one's external genitalia have been influenced by abnormal hormone levels while still in the womb, or some other changes have occurred that create incongruencies among chromosomal factors, internal genitalia, and/or external genitalia. In such cases, the sex of the individual may be ambiguous. When hormonal abnormalities influence pre-natal formation of the body of an individual whose chromosomal nature (XY) would ordinarily produce a person with male genitalia, that person will may be born with female external genitalia. Similarly a chromosomally female (XX) fetus can be masculined and may be born with external genitalia that appear to be male. Sometimes hormonal influences are of an intermediate strength and the body of the individual is ambiguous. It may be impossible to determine by examination of external features whether the baby in question is an XX female who has been masculinized to some extent, or an XY male who has been feminized to some extent. There are also individuals who have other chromosomal combinations (XXY, XYY, etc.) as well as individuals whose bodies may contain approximately equal numbers of XX cells and XY cells and who may have both male genitalia and female genitalia. Arbitrarily designating these individuals as boys, girls, men, or women would serve to deceive all people involved concerning the realities of gender identity and gender role of these people.

In addition to the physical ambiguities and combinations, there are also mental characteristics that appear to be strongly influenced by hormone levels at certain critical times in fetal development. This phenomenon is very clearly understood in the case of cattle because a fairly frequent mishap in gestation produces a freemartin (unconventional heifer), a cow that is female in respect of its genitalia but one that behaves sexually like a bull.

Post-natal conditioning may also strongly influence the self image by which a person categorizes and understands himself or herself.

If someone's chromosomal status is XX, if that person's period in the womb is normal and as a baby has normal female genitalia, and if that person is raised as are other female children in that culture, then that individual will almost certainly say that she is a girl, and later she will say that she is a woman. To that extent that nothing puts her strongly at odds with her society, she will probably take up an ordinary gender role rather than doing something unusual like becoming a knight in armor.

If someone's chromosomal status is XY, if that person's gestation is normal and the genitalia are typical of males, and if that person is raised as are other male children in that culture, then that individual will almost certainly say that he is a boy, and later he will say that he is a man. If nothing puts him strongly at odds with his society, the chances are that he will follow the pursuits that are common among other men in his culture rather than, e.g., try to function as an escort for lonely heterosexual males.

But what will be the gender identity of someone who does not fulfill these ordinary expectations? Chromosomal differences may have profound behavioral or reproductive consequences. Hormonal differences during gestation may have effects on external genitalia, sexual motivation, or other behavioral characteristics. Post-natal conditioning may have easily recognizable effects on the behavior and motivations of individuals.

The gender identity that each individual possesses is unique. Individuals act out their gender identities as gender roles. Other people then observe their gender role – dress, behavior, and other such indications –, and infer the gender identity and the sex of these individuals. If everything were as simple as language paints it, then there would be only XX and XY individuals, XX individuals would all call themselves girls and then women and mean exactly the same thing in every case, and they would take up a standard gender role from which other people could unfailingly infer their gender identity and their sex. Similarly, XY individuals would be unambiguously male in all the external signals they give off, and other people in the society could infallibly infer their gender identities and sex from those public signals. Reality, however, is far from being that simple.

Despite this, statistically speaking, one would find an overwhelming majority of those individuals with XX identifying themselves with the feminine gender roles and those XY individuals with the male, regardless of the sexual orientation of the subjects.

*Courtesy of my old Biology 340 Professor, taken verbatim from his lecture at FSU.

Atypical gender identity is not controversial in any manner and any good Google search will find hundreds of thousands of hits on the subject.

And? Some people are insecure in thier homosexuality. I am simply giving them privacy.
It might appear that some people are looking to use your thread to hook up. :D

I'm mostly straight. If Kiera Knightley ever switched teams, though...
That's the spirit. :D

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Strait.




What an interesting, informative post. I amaze myself with my use of the English Language. Or, in other words, I'M SO BORED!!

Sorta wondering, when have people "discovered" what their sexuality is? I never really thought about it and just found myself attracted to females when I hit puberty. I assume its the same for homosexuals, but I never thought about it till now.

I can sleep with anything :)
Wouldn't that make you Czardas?

Strait.
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What an interesting, informative post. I amaze myself with my use of the English Language.
:D

:D

I was hoping someone would catch that. Now I can say that I meant to do it and raise my post count. Yay!

edit: And you listened to my sig and :) ed. Its time to make that "yay" into a Yay!

I'm straight, while still able to appreciate attractiveness in both sexes. Doesn't mean I want to fuck or even kiss a male, just that I can notice how others could be attracted.

I bet you are Albert Einstein in disguise.

Do not discuss Genetics if you don't know anything about the subject.

For the record, I'm fairly certain that Nadkor knows all of this, and that the post you referred to was sarcasm, but thank you for compiling it all.

I was hoping someone would catch that. Now I can say that I meant to do it and raise my post count. Yay!

edit: And you listened to my sig and :) ed. Its time to make that "yay" into a Yay!
Yay! I'm useful!

Yay! People are paying attention to me!

No. I'm not homosexual.

For the record, I'm fairly certain that Nadkor knows all of this, and that the post you referred to was sarcasm, but thank you for compiling it all.

Then I stand corrected...one of my weaknesses is detecting subtle sarcasm in posts on the internet. Obvious sarcasm I get.

It might be due to the fact that I am older and was not raised on computers, but it is more likely that I am simply obtuse on occasion.

Bearing that in mind, I apologize.

Yay! People are paying attention to me!

I'll pay attention to you anyway you want.:fluffle:

Ha. I make myself laugh.

For the record, I'm fairly certain that Nadkor knows all of this, and that the post you referred to was sarcasm, but thank you for compiling it all.
Yea, 'twas sarcasm, but that was a good post, I may have to refer to it in future when somebody says seriously that XY only = male etc.

Then I stand corrected...one of my weaknesses is detecting subtle sarcasm in posts on the internet. Obvious sarcasm I get.

It might be due to the fact that I am older and was not raised on computers, but it is more likely that I am simply obtuse on occasion.

Bearing that in mind, I apologize.
No need to apologise, it was an interesting post :)

<chuckle> I have to admit wading through that material was terribly hard for me, after all I am a performing artist not a biologist or geneticist. But it provided a nice bonus for me in my real life understanding of my sexuality. I have come to the conclusion that my taking the hard road at university and not taking cake walk courses was a good thing.

It also provided a nice founding for my understanding of how a person may be born physically into the wrong gender and want to go through gender reassignment surgery (Which is no picnic, according to a couple of friends of mine who went through the surgery and hormonal regimens).

It also provided a nice founding for my understanding of how a person may be born physically into the wrong gender and want to go through gender reassignment surgery (Which is no picnic, according to a couple of friends of mine who went through the surgery and hormonal regimens).
Well, I've all that to look forward too. Yay...

I'll pay attention to you anyway you want.:fluffle:

Ha. I make myself laugh.
Okay, just consider rose-coloured shades for that.

Gayer than Christmas here.

No.

My flame burns brightly.

A surprisingly large number of people say they dont know. thats a bit odd, even if lots of them are just taking the piss. I seriously dont get people who dont realize they are gay. I mean, when I walk down the street I see dozens of women that I want to screw, and the men are of no interest to me. Now if I saw a guy and thought "yep, I'd really like him to suck my cock" then I'd probly realize I was gay. If people would just pay attention...

A surprisingly large number of people say they dont know. thats a bit odd, even if lots of them are just taking the piss. I seriously dont get people who dont realize they are gay. I mean, when I walk down the street I see dozens of women that I want to screw, and the men are of no interest to me. Now if I saw a guy and thought "yep, I'd really like him to suck my cock" then I'd probly realize I was gay. If people would just pay attention...

people dont always think about it, some care more about work and money and sports and never really stop to think who they like, i was like that until about the start of this year i guess

A surprisingly large number of people say they dont know. thats a bit odd, even if lots of them are just taking the piss. I seriously dont get people who dont realize they are gay. I mean, when I walk down the street I see dozens of women that I want to screw, and the men are of no interest to me. Now if I saw a guy and thought "yep, I'd really like him to suck my cock" then I'd probly realize I was gay. If people would just pay attention...

Well, I hit that option by accident, so you can remove one from the "I don't know" and put it in the "bisexual". =)

Although, I'm not a 50/50 bisexual either, so I really fall somewhere between options.

Im straight, never crossed my mind to go with a guy, i wonder if im missing out though. :confused:

How unusual. On the other recent polls I've seen there were way more bisexuals on NS than homosexuals. This poll says there are more homosexuals.

You'd think it would be easier for bisexuals to spread our semi-pestilential state, wouldn't you? Gays can't even breed properly. They have to rely on injecting people with gay when they aren't looking.

You'd think it would be easier for bisexuals to spread our semi-pestilential state, wouldn't you? Gays can't even breed properly. They have to rely on injecting people with gay when they aren't looking.

Unfortunately, there is no proven method that lets people inject others with "gay".

How unusual. On the other recent polls I've seen there were way more bisexuals on NS than homosexuals. This poll says there are more homosexuals.


We converted them all. :D

As for the how could you not know guy, it's pretty easy, if you're trying specifically not to think about it, it's fairly easy not to know. Oh and a guy blowing you isn't gay per se, atleast not from your point of view. Now if you walk down the street and you check a guy's package out and think "God I'd love to get my hands on that", prolly gay. Atleast Bi.

Oh, really? Think, man, think!

Gays are all rapists, and a fair amount fiddle kiddies, as we well know. Now it becomes easy, even the least biblically-educated person can see it now. The method.

Oh, really? Think, man, think!

Gays are all rapists, and a fair amount fiddle kiddies, as we well know. Now it becomes easy, even the least biblically-educated person can see it now. The method.

"Gay" is not a disease. I can't go rape someone and spread my heterosexuality to them, now, can I?

Yes, you can! DUH!

Christ (is Lord), didn't you ever go to sunday school? I bet you aren't even Elect.

Yes, you can! DUH!

Christ (is Lord), didn't you ever go to sunday school? I bet you aren't even Elect.

I went to Sunday School. It was basically a bunch of people trying to brainwash kids so they would return as adults and dump their spare change into a shiny tin.

Heretic! HERETIC!

Christ will personally make you stub your toe on the way down to the sulphurous fiery pits!

Heretic! HERETIC!

Christ will personally make you stub your toe on the way down to the sulphurous fiery pits!

Not before I try to kick him in the crotch. :D

The Lord has a crotch like a great crotch, and a boot like a great boot, and verily it shall stomp on those who are not elect, and they shall stub their toes on skirting boards like great skirting boards, and make pelvic thrust motions like great pelvic thrust motions as they jump around in eternal agony.

(St. Paulie's Gospel, 11:10-11)

The Lord has a crotch like a great crotch, and a boot like a great boot, and verily it shall stomp on those who are not elect, and they shall stub their toes on skirting boards like great skirting boards, and make pelvic thrust motions like great pelvic thrust motions as they jump around in eternal agony.

(St. Paulie's Gospel, 11:10-11)
You know, I really don't appreciate being made to snort soda out through my nose. My sinuses are going to be hurting all afternoon.

The Lord has a crotch like a great crotch, and a boot like a great boot, and verily it shall stomp on those who are not elect, and they shall stub their toes on skirting boards like great skirting boards, and make pelvic thrust motions like great pelvic thrust motions as they jump around in eternal agony.

(St. Paulie's Gospel, 11:10-11)

Are you referring to Elvis?

Ain't nuttin' but a...ah, forget it. :)

Verily, the Lord has punished you for some spiritual impurity. Have you looked at your cousin with impure thoughts? Stay strong, stay strong.

Legendary Rock Stars, you shall never enter his eternal paradise. Barred from HIS Holy monster-truck rally, and the glorious eternal mass.