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From the recent thread about Colbert's comments on President Bush, I got the impression that the general opinion is that Colbert is the funniest guy on TV, outside of Jon Stewart.

I completely disagree, I do like the Daily Show, and I like Jon Stewart, but I think Colbert surpasses Stewart by a mile. Even when Colbert was a correspondent on the Daily Show, I thought his segments were the highlights.

Now I find myself skipping the Daily Show while I never miss the Colbert Report. I think that Stewart does take himself a little to seriously now, and while he is funny and sarcastic, he is not the unapologetic smartass that Colbert is.

So who is with me? Who else thinks Colbert outshines Stewart?

The poll is public so I can see who has good taste and who has better taste.

From the recent thread about Colbert's comments on President Bush, I got the impression that the general opinion is that Colbert is the funniest guy on TV, outside of Jon Stewart.

I completely disagree, I do like the Daily Show, and I like Jon Stewart, but I think Colbert surpasses Stewart by a mile. Even when Colbert was a correspondent on the Daily Show, I thought his segments were the highlights.

Now I find myself skipping the Daily Show while I never miss the Colbert Report. I think that Stewart does take himself a little to seriously now, and while he is funny and sarcastic, he is not the unapologetic smartass that Colbert is.

So who is with me? Who else thinks Colbert outshines Stewart?

The poll is public so I can see who has good taste and who has better taste.
The fact that Colbert's show revolves around one joke is starting to get old. Colbert also takes the same joke too far sometimes. Though I liked him playing the asian man who likes tea.

Stewart is funny, but he does not make the same kind of random jokes that Colbert does. Colbert i think is a bit funnier, even though i think they are both hilarious.

Its funny how Colbert is in love with himself. Thats just makes his show that much better...

Stewart is funny, but he does not make the same kind of random jokes that Colbert does. Colbert is think is a bit funnier, even though i think they are both hilarious.

Its funny how Colbert is in love with himself. Thats just makes his show that much better...
He is in love with himself because Bill O'Rielly is in love with himself.

He is in love with himself because Bill O'Rielly is in love with himself.

he wishes he had the amount of truthiness that Colbert has...

he wishes he had the amount of truthiness that Colbert has...
That is a good point. Colbert has made truthiness a werd.

The fact that Colbert's show revolves around one joke is starting to get old. Colbert also takes the same joke too far sometimes. Though I liked him playing the asian man who likes tea.

That is a character, not a joke, and I think it opens up more jokes than the straight man that Stewart portrays, especially when they do interviews or bring in David Cross to be that over-the-top liberal.

That is a good point. Colbert has made truthiness a werd.

dont forget that Stephen Colbert had a baby eagle named after him...:p

That is a character, not a joke, and I think it opens up more jokes than the straight man that Stewart portrays, especially when they do interviews or bring in David Cross to be that over-the-top liberal.
Are you saying Stewart is a homosexual?

I like Stewart better. Colbert's show is great, but I think Jon Stewart is just slightly better.

I think the difference is that Stewart (my preference, but only by a slim margin) goes after the media primarily and is political second--that gives him broader range. Colbert is trapped a bit by the fact that he's exaggerating people who are already caricatures--there aren't as many places to go with that, though I have to say that he's absolutely aced that cahracter.

And man, is he brave.

I'm a fan of Stephen Colbert and have thought that he was hilarious in everythign I have seen him in (Strangers with Candy being my favorite of all), and always looked forward to his segments on the Daily Show, but I still find Stewart better.

I haven't gotten to see much of the Colbert Report because I don't have cable right now but I'm sure I would watch that and the Daily Show religiously if I did.

Colbert ... I am a fan of that deadpan delivery style and he does that to a T.

Colbert is awesome.
Stewart is a close, close 2nd.
The thing is, Colbert is a 'character' (I think......) so he can do a whole whack of crazy shit that Stewart can't pull off. And Colbert can do ridiculous segements, Stewart is kinda restricted to serious(?) stories.

Who's the oddball who voted O'Reilley?

Who's the oddball who voted O'Reilley?

probably Bill O'Reilly himself...

Colbert is awesome.
Stewart is a close, close 2nd.
The thing is, Colbert is a 'character' (I think......) so he can do a whole whack of crazy shit that Stewart can't pull off. And Colbert can do ridiculous segements, Stewart is kinda restricted to serious(?) stories.

Who's the oddball who voted O'Reilley?
Serious? This Week in God is serious? What Are We Doing to Pigs is serious? The Less You Know is Serious? Interviewing a bunch of college students who would bounch Jessica Simpson's ass is serious?

That is a good point. Colbert has made truthiness a werd.No, truthiness was a word before Colbert started using it. Check the OED, it's been around for over two hundred years.

The funny thing is that he thought he was making it up.

Talk about great timing (http://movies.crooksandliars.com/60-Minutes-Colbe.mov). Colbert on 60 Minutes, video from Croks and Liars.

You people love me. :D

No, truthiness was a word before Colbert started using it. Check the OED, it's been around for over two hundred years.

The funny thing is that he thought he was making it up.
I know it was a word BC, but it is a totally different word now.

I must admit that I enjoy Stewart more. He is absolutely perfect in his role as the host of the Daily Show...

And by the way, you can find clips of the Daily Show here (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml)...

I haven't gotten to see much of the Colbert Report because I don't have cable right now but I'm sure I would watch that and the Daily Show religiously if I did.
And by the way, you can find clips of the Colbert Report here (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml)...

:D

I know it was a word BC, but it is a totally different word now.How so?

It's the same word, with the same meaning. He just uses it with a heavy dose of irony... but he does that with virtually every word he touches!!

Stewart. His interviews rule. I don't know why some of these people go on his show.

Are you saying Stewart is a homosexual?

Haha, no:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_act

Stewart. His interviews rule. I don't know why some of these people go on his show.
I don't know why people do Colbert interviews. They are total gong shows.

Talk about great timing (http://movies.crooksandliars.com/60-Minutes-Colbe.mov). Colbert on 60 Minutes, video from Croks and Liars.

You people love me. :D


Sweet! That was great and I DO love you : <3

I don't know why people do Colbert interviews. They are total gong shows.
In the old days on the Daily Show, it was because they didn't know who he was, and he submarined them. Now, I think it's because he's hot and they figure a weird interview still gets them face time with a desirable demographic. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgYZ11pIGU4&search=colbert%20pnac). Bill Kristol of PNAC fame found that out the hard way.

I don't know why people do Colbert interviews. They are total gong shows.
Colbert tends to joke, though, while Stewart gets serious.

Haha, no:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_act
Wow, Stewart is one straight man.

Serious? This Week in God is serious? What Are We Doing to Pigs is serious? The Less You Know is Serious? Interviewing a bunch of college students who would bounch Jessica Simpson's ass is serious?

Those are the correspondents doing that, that is where Stewart's straight man act comes in.

Stewart isn't limited to a character, so he has more versatility. Colbert may be a bit limited by his character, but he utilizes it so well that it doesn't even seem like a restriction.

It's a very close race, but I think Colbert takes it by a hair. He's got the balls to bring his unrelenting character to the president, not 10 feet away. His congressional interviews are always great, complete with Hannityesque loaded questions. When he's interviewing a liberal, he can go after them directly, after the right indirectly, and the "O'Reillys" through his "self" depreciative cracks. When he's actually interviewing a conservative, his triple revesed psychology swipes hit his guest hard, ie. "Are you against gays getting driver's liscenses as well?" That takes balls. And that's The Word.

I think both of them are pretty funny, but O’Reiley is better so I voted for him.

Have any of you ever even listened to the man? He’s a genius, and he manufactures all his merchandise in the US.

I think the difference is that Stewart (my preference, but only by a slim margin) goes after the media primarily and is political second--that gives him broader range. Colbert is trapped a bit by the fact that he's exaggerating people who are already caricatures--there aren't as many places to go with that, though I have to say that he's absolutely aced that cahracter.

And man, is he brave.

When Stewart did lampoon the media, it was a better show, but now he seems to be more of a sarcastic political commentator now.

"Have you ever seen a naked woman, Senator?"

"Yes."

"Ok, what was the movie?"

Colbert is a legend.

I watch the Daily Show when I can on E4 here in the UK, but thats not too often, still though, makes me laugh every time, although both of them, IMHO have a little way to go before they reach the heights of Bremner, Bird and Fortune. :)

I think both of them are pretty funny, but O’Reiley is better so I voted for him.

Have any of you ever even listened to the man? He’s a genius, and he manufactures all his merchandise in the US.
He would be a genius if he was doing this for comedy. Intent in this case seperates genius from idiocy

He would be a genius if he was doing this for comedy. Intent in this case seperates genius from idiocy
He is not an idiot. He's a great man looking out for the foks.

He is not an idiot. He's a great man looking out for the foks.


You mean the fok ups?


Did anyone see last nights Family Guy? I loved that line about the Republicans - that they seek to help those that already have the means to help themselves. teehee

He is not an idiot. He's a great man looking out for the foks.
Lol yeah right, that man would not look out for his own grandmother unless someone payed him to do it

I Love how Stewart will rub his eyes after tell the shocking part of the news story. When he adjusts his tie is snazzy but it just doesn't beat him rubbing his eyes in disbeleif.

who are any of these people?

i never really liked stewart

colbert is hilarious. everything he does on his show is atleast a chuckle

I've never been much of a 'ranker,' never seemed to be much of a point. I like Stewart, I like Colbert, I don't know that there is value in 'deciding' who I like more. They have a different schtick, both of which I find funny and they're on the same channel, so I can watch both.

So, now that I've crawled up my own ass...

I've liked Stewart since way back, when he was hosting short lived shows. I saw him do an interview with a spacy Jennifer Tilly that was hillarious-I saw him on a syndicated talk show do one of the best fake-out sequences ever.

I've only come across Colbert in Strangers with Candy where he was funny as hell and then The Daily Show where he had a nice dead pan. I always thought he was sticking around to take over the show if Stewart ever moved into a network show (something I hope never happens, while it would be great for his paycheck I think it would end up being stiffling. Maybe Bill Mahr can talk him out of it.)

It is interesting that the blogs are the only ones reacting to this. Though I am taking the blogs word for it, which...well, you know...

It is interesting that the blogs are the only ones reacting to this. Though I am taking the blogs word for it, which...well, you know...
That's because he bitched the press around a good bit as well--they deserved it, no question, but they decide what's news, and having a comic dickslap you about the job you did before the Iraq war isn't news to them, I guess.

I think if they both had a clone baby together, it would be awesome.

It would be 9 feet tall and named Gorlak 7, and he would lead earth on the greatest crusade of space dominization.

So basically, I like them both equally...

Stewart, hands down. While Colbert faux-right-wing schtick is hilarious, I find his routines getting a bit stale.

I still think The DailyShow/Colbert Report is the smartest hour on TV.

That's because he bitched the press around a good bit as well--they deserved it, no question, but they decide what's news, and having a comic dickslap you about the job you did before the Iraq war isn't news to them, I guess.
After I wrote that I went to check, I only saw something in the Chicago Tribune that was, at best, assinine...

Stephen Colbert of Comedy Central had a difficult act to follow, coming after the president and Bridges. He was very hard on the president, with back-handed compliments like "The greatest thing about this man is he's steady. You know where he stands. He believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what happened Tuesday."

I sensed a lot of uneasiness in the audience during Colbert's routine. It would make Republican partisans uneasy for obvious reasons.

But I also had the sense that Colbert's toughness on Bush made people squirm because it raised that age-old question that goes back to the republic's start. How do you criticize the president without disrespecting the presidency?

Then there's the human dimension. Here's a comedian dissing a man non-stop in front of the subject's wife. The president kept a smile on his face, mostly, but he had to at times be seething. It must've been like the Coretta Scott King funeral all over again.

Too bad the impersonator had already left the stage. It would have been good to hear the president's "true" thoughts during the Colbert performance.

That's all I really found, though to be fair I didn't look to hard. I guess it would be pretty hard to write, "Last night, our industry got its ass handed to it by a comedian..."

Though this was from a link from your Crooks and Liars link from someone who works at an ABC affiliate-
Steven Colbert gave us all in the press a Jonathan Swift kick in the pants, and he did it playing the fool. He depantsed the whole lot, it was a "Come to Jesus" moment as a lot of Southerners like to say. And I just have to extend my admiration his direction for the courage it took. Bravo. Applause. And some gratitude, too.
From here (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-durang/ignoring-colbert-part-tw_b_20130.html)

So I wonder what the impact will be. Will it be Stewart on Crossfire asking them to 'stop destroying America?' Or a drop in the pale? Sadly, I'm betting on the pale...

Nothing's going to change in the mass media--the people who make the decisions are too high up and too rich to worry about what a cable loudmouth says about their workers to care.

From the recent thread about Colbert's comments on President Bush, I got the impression that the general opinion is that Colbert is the funniest guy on TV, outside of Jon Stewart.

I completely disagree, I do like the Daily Show, and I like Jon Stewart, but I think Colbert surpasses Stewart by a mile. Even when Colbert was a correspondent on the Daily Show, I thought his segments were the highlights.

Now I find myself skipping the Daily Show while I never miss the Colbert Report. I think that Stewart does take himself a little to seriously now, and while he is funny and sarcastic, he is not the unapologetic smartass that Colbert is.

So who is with me? Who else thinks Colbert outshines Stewart?

The poll is public so I can see who has good taste and who has better taste.
Hey, i had to vote the lesser of three evils. ;)
Now, for control, where's the "Myrth" option?

In the old days on the Daily Show, it was because they didn't know who he was, and he submarined them. Now, I think it's because he's hot and they figure a weird interview still gets them face time with a desirable demographic. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgYZ11pIGU4&search=colbert%20pnac). Bill Kristol of PNAC fame found that out the hard way.
THAT WAS IT!
He OWNED him! GLORIOUSLY, HalleLUjah!


And, yes, i'll admit ... i love you as much as i can love a relatively complete stranger of the same sex on a relatively anonymous internet forum.
Thanks for the linkie. I was going off about that one on a couple of other threads.

I know it was a word BC, but it is a totally different word now.
BC?
Oh mods he'd love it if someone sent this link to him.

I've liked Stewart since way back, when he was hosting short lived shows. I saw him do an interview with a spacy Jennifer Tilly that was hillarious-I saw him on a syndicated talk show do one of the best fake-out sequences ever.

Word. *bows*

"I'm the KING OF THE BEES! I'm the KING OF THE BEES!"
I recount that one every time ample opportunity presents itself, like now.

BC?
Oh mods he'd love it if someone sent this link to him.
I could get on Tip of the Hat, Wag of the Finger.

Word. *bows*

"I'm the KING OF THE BEES! I'm the KING OF THE BEES!"
I recount that one every time ample opportunity presents itself, like now.
Damn, dude. I have to return that bow...

I could get on Tip of the Hat, Fag of the Finger.A better shot would be his "Dead to Me" board. I'd go for that. I gotta think of a good way to nudge out the bears.


If he actually marketed Scorn, i'd definitely augment my social life so other people would have to smell me into conversations about him. *nods*

Damn, dude. I have to return that bow...:)
Etched. ABSOLUTELY etched into my memory, evermore. That whole show was cool. How long did that run again?
I remember that and the "family member bunkmate" one - of course they used that a lot on the commercials.

A better shot would be his "Dead to Me" board. I'd go for that. I gotta think of a good way to nudge out the bears.


If he actually marketed Scorn, i'd definitely augment my social life so other people would have to smell me into conversations about him. *nods*
Did I type Fag of the Finger instead of Wag of the Finger? lol

Did I type Fag of the Finger instead of Wag of the Finger? lol
Yeah, i noticed :)
I wasn't quite sure what you meant with that, but time has this way of tending to its shepards.

I like them both equally, for different reasons.

From the recent thread about Colbert's comments on President Bush, I got the impression that the general opinion is that Colbert is the funniest guy on TV, outside of Jon Stewart.

I completely disagree, I do like the Daily Show, and I like Jon Stewart, but I think Colbert surpasses Stewart by a mile. Even when Colbert was a correspondent on the Daily Show, I thought his segments were the highlights.

Now I find myself skipping the Daily Show while I never miss the Colbert Report. I think that Stewart does take himself a little to seriously now, and while he is funny and sarcastic, he is not the unapologetic smartass that Colbert is.

So who is with me? Who else thinks Colbert outshines Stewart?

The poll is public so I can see who has good taste and who has better taste.

It's getting hard for me to choose. At first, I felt like Colbert was a one-trick pony. It was a really really good trick, but I felt like Stewart had a little more range to him. I also read the address Stewart gave at the William and Mary commencement, and that made me add an extra candle to my John Stewart shrine.

But I've really been loving the Colbert Report, and my esteem for Colbert has been growing. And then he goes and does something that I think took a ton of guts: he wasn't just "playing to the back of the house," he was playing to a house that wasn't even in the house! He was prepared to go in an deliver a WONDERFUL comic routine, knowing full well that pretty much nobody there would laugh at it. He knew that the people who would laugh were at home, watching CSPAN or whatever. He knew that he was going to piss off the fucking president, and, no matter how low your opinion of Bush, that takes some guts.

Fuck, I can't choose. Couldn't we just create some kind of Stewart-Colbert hybrid?

It's getting hard for me to choose. At first, I felt like Colbert was a one-trick pony. It was a really really good trick, but I felt like Stewart had a little more range to him. I also read the address Stewart gave at the William and Mary commencement, and that made me add an extra candle to my John Stewart shrine.

But I've really been loving the Colbert Report, and my esteem for Colbert has been growing. And then he goes and does something that I think took a ton of guts: he wasn't just "playing to the back of the house," he was playing to a house that wasn't even in the house! He was prepared to go in an deliver a WONDERFUL comic routine, knowing full well that pretty much nobody there would laugh at it. He knew that the people who would laugh were at home, watching CSPAN or whatever. He knew that he was going to piss off the fucking president, and, no matter how low your opinion of Bush, that takes some guts.

Fuck, I can't choose. Couldn't we just create some kind of Stewart-Colbert hybrid?
Not just the President--Leno did that when Clinton was Pres--Colbert went after the people who invited him, the Washington Press Corps. This was comparable to Stewart going on Crossfire and telling Carlson and Carville that they were hurting America, only more so. I still put Stewart up top, because I think he has greater range, but Colbert is really fucking good at what he does.

Not just the President--Leno did that when Clinton was Pres--Colbert went after the people who invited him, the Washington Press Corps. This was comparable to Stewart going on Crossfire and telling Carlson and Carville that they were hurting America, only more so. I still put Stewart up top, because I think he has greater range, but Colbert is really fucking good at what he does.
Ooooh, but I had temporarily forgotten Stewart's Crossfire smackdown...

I cannot give my love only to one man! My heart is being ripped in two!

Ooooh, but I had temporarily forgotten Stewart's Crossfire smackdown...

I cannot give my love only to one man! My heart is being ripped in two!
Well, you could have them both, but that would make you an unholy prevert, unworthy of ever entering into the love of Thelard (that's "the Lord," Jimmy Swaggart style).

Well, you could have them both, but that would make you an unholy prevert, unworthy of ever entering into the love of Thelard (that's "the Lord," Jimmy Swaggart style).
Hmm, eternal paradise, or a Colbert-Stewart-Bottle extravaganza...

No contest. :)