NationStates Jolt Archive

There's very little better in the world to guage the thoughts and feelings of the American people than by the entertainment they choose to attend.

This weekend saw the following top grossing films at the cinema:

1. RV
2. United 93
3. Stick It
4. Silent Hill
5. Scary Movie 4

That's right. The Sony Pictures sappy family romp, RV (Starring Robin Williams) grossed $5,000,000 more at the box office than the 9/11 freedom lovers's fuck-fest known as United 93.

While Stick It, the film that gives us the barely disguised way of watching under-aged girls shower together, came in 3rd, it was by a margin of a paltry $350,000 below United 93 - which means it would have won the 2000 election.

So, there it is. We're over it. We don't care anymore. Awesome.

I can't believe that piece of crap movie is #1

I can't afford to go to the movies right now but I'm not so sure I can stomach United 93 at this time - I've read reviews about it and it sounds like a must see, just not until I am ready to see it. Perhaps there are a lot of USians that feel the same way I do - or perhaps your point stands that people generally dont care. Probably a mix of the two though.

I can't believe that piece of crap movie is #1

I can't afford to go to the movies right now but I'm not so sure I can stomach United 93 at this time - I've read reviews about it and it sounds like a must see, just not until I am ready to see it. Perhaps there are a lot of USians that feel the same way I do - or perhaps your point stands that people generally dont care. Probably a mix of the two though.


I care now as much as I ever did. Many of us know the ending and its still too much to bear. Chuck Norris doesnt kick islamo-fascist ass and save the day.
There was a TV movie on it not too long ago as well. Generally,people go to the movies as entertainment-a release, a thrill, a laugh. This movie will be more like an extremely unfortunate documentary.

I still care and everyone I know still cares.

Yeah, I've stopped going to movies in the theater. Prices are way too high for them, IMO. Better to rip them off my school's network! :D

About United 93, just saw the A&E version of it yesterday. All I have to say is....wow. Tearjerker. I think its too soon to be having a movie about that. Hell, its only been 5 years!

As fun as hyperbole is, I was wondering Keruvalia, do you happen to have on hand the demographics of a typical movie goer? Since you're generalizing.... wouldn't it be helpful so we understand what exactly we're talking about?

Now I'm going to guess that this past week the typical movie goer was a teenaged male. Now is the moral, social and political consciousness of a nation best represented by the entertainment choices of this group within the population?

I seem to remember, thinking back, that as a teenage boy I'd had an affinity for the female form. A fault I've not yet disabused myself of, I must confess. So perhaps we can be forgiven.

I've seen 93. Pretty intense. It ends just seconds after the plane turns upsidedown.

I care now as much as I ever did. Many of us know the ending and its still too much to bear. Chuck Norris doesnt kick islamo-fascist ass and save the day.
There was a TV movie on it not too long ago as well. Generally,people go to the movies as entertainment-a release, a thrill, a laugh. This movie will be more like an extremely unfortunate documentary.

I still care and everyone I know still cares.


Which is what I suspect is the truth for many if not most of us - US citizen or not.

Now I'm going to guess that this past week the typical movie goer was a teenaged male. Now is the moral, social and political consciousness of a nation best represented by the entertainment choices of this group within the population?

You think millions of teenage males went to see "RV"?

Meh, I won't see it. I refuse to see anything that will remind me of that day. I wince whenever I look up at a digital clock and it says 9:11. Movies are supposed to be fun, and that won't be fun.

You think millions of teenage males went to see "RV"?


nah- I took my kids to see it and it was all parents with kids.

It was Robin Williams playing Steve Martin. As soon as gas prices come down some,I'll be taking the family on a trip with a motorhome.

Aside from that urge, I got a decent nap,since I cant eat popcorn anymore.

You think millions of high-as-hell teenage males went to see "RV"?

Fixed. And, to answer, probably.

the 9/11 freedom lovers's fuck-fest known as United 93.

They made a movie about the planes?! Ugh, what a tasteless way to exploit the attacks, and I've seen Bush cavorting at ground zero!

They made a movie about the planes?! Ugh, what a tasteless way to exploit the attacks, and I've seem Bush cavorting at ground zero!

Supposedly they got the permission from the families to do the movie.

Supposedly they got the permission from the families to do the movie.

I wonder how much that permission cost, or was in any way needed or heeded... and imagine if Bush had done the same!

They made a movie about the planes?! Ugh, what a tasteless way to exploit the attacks, and I've seem Bush cavorting at ground zero!


yes, and many of the actors were people playing themselves (some general and a flight controller guy or something). I believe this movie was done with the blessings of the victims families. And it was just about that single plane. There are, I think, two other movies coming out that cover the same thing (one by Oliver Stone) that are being made.

I wonder how much that permission cost, or was in any way needed or heeded... and imagine if Bush had done the same!

*Doesnt know*

*Doesnt care*

If people dont like the movie, boycott it or protest it.

But most people just have to realize, its just Hollywood being Hollywood...and we all know how THAT is.

I wonder how much that permission cost, or was in any way needed or heeded... and imagine if Bush had done the same!
It cost about three fiddy.

yes, and many of the actors were people playing themselves (some general and a flight controller guy or something).

Yeah, you know, except those people that died.

Ugh, I am quite disgusted, almost as much as when the Germans tried to capitalise off of the sinking of the Estonia.

*Doesnt know*

*Doesnt care*

If people dont like the movie, boycott it or protest it.

But most people just have to realize, its just Hollywood being Hollywood...and we all know how THAT is.

Money-grubbing capitalists?

Yeah, you know, except those people that died.

Ugh, I am quite disgusted, almost as much as when the Germans tried to capitalise off of the sinking of the Estonia.

Yes, I'm pretty sure that the people who died didn't play themselves in the film.

Money-grubbing capitalists?

I was thinking more along the lines of Hypocritical-Leftist-Idiotic-money-grubbers.

But maybe thats just me.

I was thinking more along the lines of Hypocritical-Leftist-Idiotic-money-grubbers.

But maybe thats just me.

It's always just you.

From the reviews I have heard/read, this movie is supposedly more like a documentary in that it tries to stay loyal to the actual events that occured - which happen near real-time in the film.

I don't agree with exploiting tragedy for money, but I have no problem with loyal recreations of historical events (trajic or not), because it can help us understand what really happened. I read the transcripts from the flight and it wasn't very clear.

Still I am not ready to see the movie yet.

It's always just you.

Except when half the country agrees with me.

Except when half the country agrees with me.
Which country?

Except when half the country agrees with me.


Are you talking about this movie or some ambiguous topic?

Robin Williams is badass. I would see RV if it was just him in an actual RV going about his daily life, but in an RV. It's like: *snort coke* *rant about everything to himself for about six hours straight* *breathe* *snort coke again*.

I went and saw RV in the theater on opening day, and I thought it was pretty funny. Maybe it's just me, though.

As far as United 93, I don't think I'm going to end up seeing it. Not because I disagree with the movie being made, but because I don't like to watch powerful movies like that in the theater. To those that disagree with the movie being made, let me ask you this: Did you like "Saving Private Ryan"? Did you enjoy "Pearl Harbor"?

I went and saw RV in the theater on opening day, and I thought it was pretty funny. Maybe it's just me, though.

As far as United 93, I don't think I'm going to end up seeing it. Not because I disagree with the movie being made, but because I don't like to watch powerful movies like that in the theater. To those that disagree with the movie being made, let me ask you this: Did you like "Saving Private Ryan"? Did you enjoy "Pearl Harbor"?
No, and No. I did notwatch either movie :cool:

Did you like "Saving Private Ryan"? Did you enjoy "Pearl Harbor"?

No. Saving Private Ryan and Pearl Harbour were self-aggrandising US circle-jerks with plot issues.

OK, that's not completely fair. Pearl Harbour had no plot.

From the reviews I have heard/read, this movie is supposedly more like a documentary in that it tries to stay loyal to the actual events that occured - which happen near real-time in the film.

I don't agree with exploiting tragedy for money, but I have no problem with loyal recreations of historical events (trajic or not), because it can help us understand what really happened. I read the transcripts from the flight and it wasn't very clear.

Still I am not ready to see the movie yet.

Why would anybody really want to see the movie though? Is it entertaining? Does it tell us something about it we already didn't know?

It doesn't interest me in the slightest. I saw Downfall again the other night- that was not 'entertaining' in the traditional sense, but was very enlightening and a strong film without being moralistic.

Can the same be said about U93? *shrug*

Meh, I won't see it. I refuse to see anything that will remind me of that day. I wince whenever I look up at a digital clock and it says 9:11. Movies are supposed to be fun, and that won't be fun.


I probalby won't see United 93 either, not because of any emotional impact, but because I have had it with 9/11. Every time you turn on the TV, theres some documentary, news program, commentator, talking about it ad nauseam. I have 9/11 burn out, I'm sick of it. :headbang:

Silent Hill was so good it should be higher than number 4.

I went and saw RV in the theater on opening day, and I thought it was pretty funny. Maybe it's just me, though.

As far as United 93, I don't think I'm going to end up seeing it. Not because I disagree with the movie being made, but because I don't like to watch powerful movies like that in the theater. To those that disagree with the movie being made, let me ask you this: Did you like "Saving Private Ryan"? Did you enjoy "Pearl Harbor"?
I don't think even the people involve in making Pearl Harbor enjoyed Pearl Harbor...

From the reviews I have heard/read, this movie is supposedly more like a documentary in that it tries to stay loyal to the actual events that occured - which happen near real-time in the film.

I don't agree with exploiting tragedy for money, but I have no problem with loyal recreations of historical events (trajic or not), because it can help us understand what really happened. I read the transcripts from the flight and it wasn't very clear.

Still I am not ready to see the movie yet.


What REALLY happened? No matter what the transcripts say, NO ONE will ever know what really happened on that airplane, or where it was headed. Its all based on conjecture. No one knows exactly how many terrorists were on board, or if they were headed back to New York or the Capitol. No one will know if the passengers actually brought the plane down, or if the hijackers did so intentionally. All we have are a few short phone calls and the FAA tracking of the plane.

Silent Hill was so good it should be higher than number 4.

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Meh, VG cats is much funnier anyway. :)

I don't think even the people involve in making Pearl Harbor enjoyed Pearl Harbor...

I agree that was a totally crappy movie, no comparison.

Warning: Any movie with the names Jerry Bruckheimer or Michael Bay attached to them are guaranteed to be crap.

Why would anybody really want to see the movie though? Is it entertaining? Does it tell us something about it we already didn't know?

It doesn't interest me in the slightest. I saw Downfall again the other night- that was not 'entertaining' in the traditional sense, but was very enlightening and a strong film without being moralistic.

Can the same be said about U93? *shrug*
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Really? You didn't think Goebbels's (I don't know how to spell the name, that's what Google spell check gave me, that's what I'm going with...) "I have no sympathy, they gave us a mandate" came close? I dug that movie, really, but it was definitely weighty.

Meh, VG cats is much funnier anyway. :)

VG Cats would dismember and bury you in their kitty litter, so that they may defecate on your fragmented corpse in perpetuity, were they to exist and know you thought favourably of Silent Hill.

Bold for reference.

Really? You didn't think Goebbels's (I don't know how to spell the name, that's what Google spell check gave me, that's what I'm going with...) "I have no sympathy, they gave us a mandate" came close? I dug that movie, really, but it was definitely weighty.

No, I meant that the film didn't start out with any particular agenda- one side or the other, glorify or vilify (sp?) It allowed you to make up your own mind via the memoirs of someone who was there- warts and all.

You can be moralistic about it, i.e. you can decide for yourself, but I personally saw it as a neutral film, merely presenting the memories of the Sec. and what she witnessed and recorded.

No. Saving Private Ryan and Pearl Harbour were self-aggrandising US circle-jerks with plot issues.

OK, that's not completely fair. Pearl Harbour had no plot.


Ha! :D