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Puerto Rico goes broke

Zilam
01-05-2006, 21:05
Puerto Rican schools, government offices close
Governor, lawmakers fail to reach deal to avert financial crisis

Monday, May 1, 2006; Posted: 10:17 a.m. EDT (14:17 GMT)

(AP) -- The government of Puerto Rico ran out of money Monday, forcing the U.S. commonwealth to close public schools and shut down government offices, putting almost 100,000 people out of work.

The legislature and governor failed to reach a last-minute accord that would have averted the first-ever partial shutdown of the government in island history.

All 1,600 public schools on the island were closed two weeks before the end of the academic year, and 43 government agencies were shut down after negotiations between lawmakers and Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila failed.

Acevedo blamed "legislative inaction" for the shutdown.

"As of 8 a.m. this morning, I don't have in hand a single legislative proposal that resolves this crisis," he told reporters.

The closure gave an unplanned holiday to 500,000 students and threw almost 100,000 government employees -- including 40,000 teachers -- temporarily out of work. The governor has said essential services, such as police and hospitals, would continue during the shutdown.

Unions planned protests outside the capitol in San Juan and elsewhere to protest the shutdown. Municipal governments, which provide services such as garbage collection, kept functioning.

Outside an elementary school in the Rio Piedras area of the capital, a sign advised parents to monitor news reports to learn when classes would resume. Juan Marrero, a shop owner near the school, said the shutdown would curtail his business.

"They have to solve this quickly," Marrero said.

Puerto Rico has a $740 million budget shortfall because the legislature and the governor have been unable to agree on a spending plan since 2004.

Overnight, the Senate leader offered a compromise that would create a 5.9 percent sales tax, which he said would raise enough money to pay off an emergency $532 million line of credit the government needs to finish the fiscal year.

But that proposal failed to gain traction in the House of Representatives, where leaders said they opposed any sales tax above 5.5 percent -- with 1.5 percent earmarked for municipalities.

Both proposals fell short of the 7 percent that Acevedo said was necessary to pay for an additional $640 million loan and avoid a partial government shutdown. Anything less that 7 percent would only postpone the crisis until July 1, when the next fiscal year begins, the governor said.

The island currently has no sales tax.

Members of the New Progressive Party, which controls the legislature, have blamed the governor for the crisis. The two sides never agreed on the 2005 or 2006 budgets, and the government is using the 2004 budget to operate as debts pile up.

The government is Puerto Rico's largest employer, with some 200,000 workers. Salaries make up about 80 percent of the government's operational costs.

In recent days, Puerto Ricans held protest marches aimed at spurring the politicians to reach an agreement.

"I think it's sad that it came to this, but I think they'll come to their senses after a few days of playing this game," said Hector Aguilo, 24, who lives in Guaynabo, just outside San Juan.

"There are too many angry people who would be without their paychecks."


Is it time that the US lets go of Puerto Rico? I mean we have to face our own problems here, so do we really to have worry about a commonwealth?
Yootopia
01-05-2006, 21:09
Is it time that the US lets go of Puerto Rico? I mean we have to face our own problems here, so do we really to have worry about a commonwealth?

The US should really give as much help as possible to Puerto Rico, unless it wants another communist government near it. Which would be quite nice for us lefties, but I can't see the American conservatives in the area being too happy.
Kulikovo
01-05-2006, 21:12
If Puerto Rico became a state, wouldn't it be able to have the same benefits as the other states?
Zilam
01-05-2006, 21:13
The US should really give as much help as possible to Puerto Rico, unless it wants another communist government near it. Which would be quite nice for us lefties, but I can't see the American conservatives in the area being too happy.


No, we shouldn't help them unless we add them as a state, IMO.
Zilam
01-05-2006, 21:15
If Puerto Rico became a state, wouldn't it be able to have the same benefits as the other states?


Yeah, I suppose, and I would be in favor of helping it if it was a state. But as it is right now, I say we let them go.
Legendary Rock Stars
01-05-2006, 21:16
Yeah, I suppose, and I would be in favor of helping it if it was a state. But as it is right now, I say we let them go.

Letting them go won't make their problems better. Of course, you could probably say that they could do that themselves, but still...
Zilam
01-05-2006, 21:19
Letting them go won't make their problems better. Of course, you could probably say that they could do that themselves, but still...


No, it won't make the problems go away, but at least we(Americans) won't have to worry about their problems.
The Jewish Legion
01-05-2006, 21:22
Unless I'm retarted (which I'm not) we have 50 states, and Puerto Rico isnt one of them. If you want the benefits that America can provide, you gotta join us. Either become the 51st state or get dumped

:upyours: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

lol theyre all shooting each other
Yootopia
01-05-2006, 21:24
Unless I'm retarted (which I'm not) we have 50 states, and Puerto Rico isnt one of them. If you want the benefits that America can provide, you gotta join us. Either become the 51st state or get dumped

:upyours: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

lol theyre all shooting each other

Hilarious. But if you let countries get shitty under your own watch, then they'll hate you and you can't really do much about that.
Fass
01-05-2006, 21:32
No, it won't make the problems go away, but at least we(Americans) won't have to worry about their problems.

Their problems are your problems since they too are US citizens. "They" are "you." You can't just "let them go."
Kulikovo
01-05-2006, 21:37
If we let them go now, they'd just become another third world island nation. They should become a state and save themselves.
Freising
01-05-2006, 21:38
The US should really give as much help as possible to Puerto Rico, unless it wants another communist government near it. Which would be quite nice for us lefties, but I can't see the American conservatives in the area being too happy.

Why would another communist state be good for the "lefties"? Noone wants another communist state; I know some pretty liberal people that dislike communism. I, as a centrist, also decline the system.
Yootopia
01-05-2006, 21:44
Communism, as it's been applied in the past, isn't too liberal. What I would like quite a lot is for actual communism to be had in Puerto Rico.

But on the other hand, the chances of that happening are slimmer than Kate Moss.
Verdigroth
01-05-2006, 21:50
I guess there isn't the demand for rum anymore...bummer
Kazus
01-05-2006, 21:56
Yeah I bet they are wishing they voted to become a state.
Alexandrana
01-05-2006, 22:01
That must be very hard for the Puerto Rican people.

You think that all the tourism they get would bring in some money. I swear, our government is already in enough debt. Having to help them get out of theirs would only add to ours.
Call to power
01-05-2006, 22:18
I'm surprised even my British Government hasn't offered help I guess they wouldn’t of been left alone if the cold war was still on kind of sad really

I guess one day we will all be in the bankruptcy boat and Puerto Rico can make a thread on us:(
Intangelon
01-05-2006, 22:28
Think about it, though. Tourism without a sales tax is doing precisely who any good? Private enterprise. So if all the capitalist wanking over how "the market" is the cure for any problem were really true, Puerto Rico should be doing just fine. They aren't. Connection?
Intracircumcordei
01-05-2006, 23:10
Is it time that the US lets go of Puerto Rico? I mean we have to face our own problems here, so do we really to have worry about a commonwealth?

Well as King of Peurto Rico I have to say that perhaps the politicians unable to reach a working project should be the first to loose their pay.

Education is free, but teachers gotta eat too.

So why don't the teachers create plan.

why not change the 5.9 sales tax to 5.5.
I'm geussing school vouchers would be good about now.

I could fix their budget up. Although I read that Peurto Ricans get tons of free money due to high unemployment rates perhaps I'm mistaken.

Obviously the budget is terribly flawed. For an area like Peurto Rico money shouldn't be a problem.
Spring Break..
Intracircumcordei
01-05-2006, 23:16
If Puerto Rico became a state, wouldn't it be able to have the same benefits as the other states?

sorta technically the same 'as most states' from what I have read but it isn't an original state. I think it is more likely they become a state then a country but more likely they will stay a commonwealth.. but actually tax breaks are one of the benifits of peurto rico if I remembre.. no us taxes... or something like that.
Zilam
01-05-2006, 23:35
Their problems are your problems since they too are US citizens. "They" are "you." You can't just "let them go."


They are not us. They want to be independent, so they should have to face their problems on their own. If they wish to be a state, then we will help out then.
Fass
01-05-2006, 23:48
They are not us. They want to be independent, so they should have to face their problems on their own. If they wish to be a state, then we will help out then.

It doesn't make them less citizens of the US.
Iztatepopotla
02-05-2006, 01:14
Is it time that the US lets go of Puerto Rico? I mean we have to face our own problems here, so do we really to have worry about a commonwealth?
You annexed them, you got yourselves into the situation, now live with it.
Verdigroth
02-05-2006, 01:25
Yeah I bet they are wishing they voted to become a state.
it isn't to late. I know Guam keeps trying to get the vote to become a state. Which would be cool, cause Guam...Guam is the Bomb
Ravenshrike
02-05-2006, 03:44
Think about it, though. Tourism without a sales tax is doing precisely who any good? Private enterprise. So if all the capitalist wanking over how "the market" is the cure for any problem were really true, Puerto Rico should be doing just fine. They aren't. Connection?
Most capitalist systems assume some sort of sales tax is in place. Most in fact don't object to one. It's income tax they object to. And from what I understand in the article, the lack of sales tax and current crisis is essentially because of a giant pissing match between the legislature and the governor.