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So whats better, American football or English football (soccer)?

For me it's got to be the english one, much more fun to watch and you don't need to be dressed like a tank to play.

Rugby beats all!

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...football.

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...football.
RUGBY FOOTBALL!!!
Right.

well its not really english football, cause footie ( soccer ) is a true global sport , and the most watch and poplour game in the world

Rugby is just for association football players who didn't like it when the rules were changed so that you weren't allowed to kick people inna shins any more. American football is for people who are insecure about their bodies and feel the need to wear shoulder pads. And Soccer is for people who failed to make it into their chosen carrer of Ballet or Acting. "Me, dive? Never! That bastard tripped me!"

:sniper: Rugby is just an excuse for guys to grab each other.
Football is the world's greatest sport. That's why the whole world will be watching the World Cup Finals, while only America watch American football.

:sniper: Rugby is just an excuse for guys to grab each other.

You must be confusing it with Rugby LEAGUE. Union is the real footy

Rugby beats American football because they don't stop have to stop every 20 seconds or wear a full suit of Kevlar armour. But Association Football, as it should be called, is the best.

What about Austrailan football??? AFL???
although...i like american and 'english' football more than AFL...

Aussie Rules Football is best. All the other codes are pretenders & mere wannabees.

What about Austrailan football??? AFL???
although...i like american and 'english' football more than AFL...No one cares about you whinging island, because you cheat in the olympics and send mutants with webbed feet to the swimming events. Beside you weren't able to successfully export your sport, nor are you hegemonic power.

:sniper: Rugby is just an excuse for guys to grab each other.
Football is the world's greatest sport. That's why the whole world will be watching the World Cup Finals, while only America watch American football.
Do you have a problem with guys grabbing each other?
Get out of the Cave, this is the 21st Century.

Football!! as played by most of the globe :D

oh and lets not forget Gaelic Football!! top sport!!

Real Football (the type thats played everywhere except in america.)

Yeah, football for me too. The one with the round ball that you kick into the net.

Yeah, football for me too. The one with the round ball that you kick into the net.
Beach Soccer?

Footie, football, soccer (stupid short phrase for 'Association Football').

Whatever you want to call it.

That said I do like to watch American football too. To be honest I liken it to chess with bruises.

Footie, football, soccer (stupid short phrase for 'Association Football').

Whatever you want to call it.

That said I do like to watch American football too. To be honest I liken it to chess with bruises.
Cheese with bruises, genius

Cheese with bruises, genius

Huh?

You, Sir, have a weird mind...

Huh?

You, Sir, have a weird mind...
Sorry, that was a typo.:p
But a brilliant idea...

Gaelic FTW!

Gaelic FTW!
Gaelic WTF!

Gaelic WTF!

Gaelic footy, have you not seen it?? top sport !

Gaelic footy, have you not seen it?? top sport !
No no i saw Australia vs Ireland on TV a while back.

No no i saw Australia vs Ireland on TV a while back.

of course they do that every year if i remember correctly.

of course they do that every year if i remember correctly.
I think the Aussies are the Aussie rules stars, so they have a bit of a disadvantage.

I think the Aussies are the Aussie rules stars, so they have a bit of a disadvantage.
If memory serves the Aussies literally kicked the crap out of us. It's a violent sport. I was mightily ashamed we didn't fight back more.

Rugby Football Union
Association Football
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Rugby Football League

If memory serves the Aussies literally kicked the crap out of us. It's a violent sport. I was mightily ashamed we didn't fight back more.
They had practice from the Cronulla riots.;)

"English" football (aye right!!).

I've always been an Association Football fan but I feel it needs to nudge the rules just a tad to make it easier to score and harder to defend or it's in danger of getting too dull. Especially at the higher levels. Cup finals and semi-finals at national and European level are almost always dull 0-0 or 1-0 with defences on top. Okay the recent Middlesborough UEFA semi was a cracker, but that stood out all the more because these type of games are usually torpid with world class defenders cancelling out world class forwards.

The offside rule has obviously been complicated beyond understanding now but that was always the wrong way to go. All that really had to be done was make the goals slightly bigger, make shielding the ball over the goal line obstruction (as it really is), put yellow carded players in a sin-bin (like in ice hockey) and introduce a timing system whereby the clock is dead when the ball is dead (you'd probably have to shorten the official duration of the game to 60-70mins though). All this would make defending a bit harder and stop time wasting without actually changing the nature of the game.

Rugby Football Union
Association Football
Galic football
Aussie Rules
American Football
Rugby Football League
Rugby League is better than Aussie Rules.

Rugby League is better than Aussie Rules.
Diffrent opinions mate.

Diffrent opinions mate.
Yep, The Aussie stuff anyways i ain't sure on the British stuff.

"English" football (aye right!!).

I've always been an Association Football fan but I feel it needs to nudge the rules just a tad to make it easier to score and harder to defend or it's in danger of getting too dull. Especially at the higher levels. Cup finals and semi-finals at national and European level are almost always dull 0-0 or 1-0 with defences on top. Okay the recent Middlesborough UEFA semi was a cracker, but that stood out all the more because these type of games are usually torpid with world class defenders cancelling out world class forwards.

The offside rule has obviously been complicated beyond understanding now but that was always the wrong way to go. All that really had to be done was make the goals slightly bigger, make shielding the ball over the goal line obstruction (as it really is), put yellow carded players in a sin-bin (like in ice hockey) and introduce a timing system whereby the clock is dead when the ball is dead (you'd probably have to shorten the official duration of the game to 60-70mins though). All this would make defending a bit harder and stop time wasting without actually changing the nature of the game.
Just you wait for the Champions League final. That'll be a frikking goal-fest.

And there are plenty of ways to waste time while keeping the ball in play.

Originally posted by I V Stalin
Just you wait for the Champions League final. That'll be a frikking goal-fest.

And there are plenty of ways to waste time while keeping the ball in play.

We'll see about the first point. The two semis' were dire. As for the second point, yes you can time waste with the ball in play but it is a lot harder and mistakes can be made.

They don't call association football the worlds biggest sport for nothing!!

5 weeks and a half to go till WC!!!! :D :D

We'll see about the first point. The two semis' were dire. As for the second point, yes you can time waste with the ball in play but it is a lot harder and mistakes can be made.
Yeah, the semis were kinda bad. Though I'm an Arsenal fan, so I'm not going to complain. The final will be good. Two teams who are pretty much dedicated to attack, with only half-decent defences. Barca will score at least two, and Arsenal are capable of doing the same.

But yes, it is more difficult to waste time with the ball in play, I was just saying that it is possible.

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I just wanted to point out to those who dismiss American football for its use of "armour" that the purpose of shoulder pads and helmets is to cause injuries more than it is to prevent them: they provide hard points of contact that a tackler or blocker can use to knock back an opponent with superior force than what you would have with just flesh and bone.

The "stopping every few seconds" argument though I can sympathize with, the constant stopping of play can be a bit boring, though personally I find association football uninteresting because of its low amount of shots on goal at the professional level.

I just wanted to point out to those who dismiss American football for its use of "armour" that the purpose of shoulder pads and helmets is to cause injuries more than it is to prevent them: they provide hard points of contact that a tackler or blocker can use to knock back an opponent with superior force than what you would have with just flesh and bone.

The "stopping every few seconds" argument though I can sympathize with, the constant stopping of play can be a bit boring, though personally I find association football uninteresting because of its low amount of shots on goal at the professional level.
To true connesours of the game-that part of the Intrest, the midfeild play and defensive lines are itnresting but it is an eaccuried skill.

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well its not really english football, cause footie ( soccer ) is a true global sport , and the most watch and poplour game in the world

Well the English invented it.

Football is the best. The real football. Not the football where they use their hands more than their feet (Rugby and American Football)
Although Rugby Union is my 2nd fave sport so ya know that goes outta the window.

Out of interest, are the USA in the World Cup this year? I cant remember.

Well the English invented it.

Well formulated the modern rules and formed the first football league.

Games of similar rules and purpose have been around for millenia.

Football is the best. The real football. Not the football where they use their hands more than their feet (Rugby and American Football)
Although Rugby Union is my 2nd fave sport so ya know that goes outta the window.

Out of interest, are the USA in the World Cup this year? I cant remember.
Yeah, they're in Group E. It's possible (though unlikely) that they could play Iran in the semi-finals.

Nothing against Soccer, I'm just not a big fan.

What gets me into American Football is the sheer strategy that goes into it. If you look past the brutishness of it, you will see immensely specialized roles, strategic plans of attack, and that games are usually decided by the smallest of exploited mismatches.

One player, like a Antwaan Randle El or Antonio Gates that redefines their role in order to give a strategic advantage over the defense is the most important factor.

Football is the best. The real football. Not the football where they use their hands more than their feet (Rugby and American Football)
Although Rugby Union is my 2nd fave sport so ya know that goes outta the window.

Out of interest, are the USA in the World Cup this year? I cant remember.

Indeed they are. Group E with Italy, Ghana, Czech Rep.

EDIT: Damn it, beaten to it.

Real Football (the type thats played everywhere except in america.)
haven't heard of MLS then? Also apparently missed the fact that the US did fairly well their last outing @ the World Cup.

Indeed they are. Group E with Italy, Ghana, Czech Rep.

EDIT: Damn it, beaten to it.

Ah, thanks. Unless Italy or Czech Republic slip up, I'd imagine that the USA wont get too far.
And hopefully Italy dont slip up, cos if England get knocked out, Italy are my favourite 'other' nation so I'll be supporting them.

Nothing against Soccer, I'm just not a big fan.

What gets me into American Football is the sheer strategy that goes into it. If you look past the brutishness of it, you will see immensely specialized roles, strategic plans of attack, and that games are usually decided by the smallest of exploited mismatches.

One player, like a Antwaan Randle El or Antonio Gates that redefines their role in order to give a strategic advantage over the defense is the most important factor.
Which is why i lvoe rugby-its so much more complex. tactics and selection are everything. Blitz or Drift Defence-or Rush defence? Attack inside or outside? Kicking game? Punt or Seige-Gun? Flick it out or DSp it? Maul or Ruck? Offload or Not? M1 or R12?

Every team has at least 12 or 13 backs moves, 3 or 4 defensive systems, 10-20 line out calls, kicking calls, penilty moves, tap calls, scrum moves, set-peice moves....

haven't heard of MLS then? Also apparently missed the fact that the US did fairly well their last outing @ the World Cup.
Most of the good US footballers tend to come over to England to play, not too sure how high the quality of football is in the MLS. in fact the only team I really know are the Metrostars cos my mate bought their shirt cos it 'looked like' AC Milans top haha

Olde English Football is the best.

There are 3 rules.

No killing
No weapons
No vehicles

Get some sod in a tank to toss the ball up half-way between you and the village next door and it's game on!

Most of the good US footballers tend to come over to England to play, not too sure how high the quality of football is in the MLS. in fact the only team I really know are the Metrostars cos my mate bought their shirt cos it 'looked like' AC Milans top haha

There are a few people who play on the US team in the world cup that plays in MLS... Donavan is one of 'em.. cpl others, but i'm not a big follower of the league.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIUp19bBoA

That's all that needs to be said. Association Rules wins hands down. So does Boris Johnson.

The kind of football which is called football everywhere except the USA.

Which is why i lvoe rugby-its so much more complex. tactics and selection are everything. Blitz or Drift Defence-or Rush defence? Attack inside or outside? Kicking game? Punt or Seige-Gun? Flick it out or DSp it? Maul or Ruck? Offload or Not? M1 or R12?

Every team has at least 12 or 13 backs moves, 3 or 4 defensive systems, 10-20 line out calls, kicking calls, penilty moves, tap calls, scrum moves, set-peice moves....
And some of us are just lazy and play a fast off-loading game:D

But in all seriousness rugby beats all. I prefer it to Am Football, partly because the players have more of a mental and tactical role to play. Am Football is a bit too coach orientated for my taste, no enough opportunity for individual/team flair.

The best version of "footie" ever was the 11th century Danelaw version, the World Cup Association should return to its roots.

Having said that I only really like to play rugby and american football, but that is more a product of desire to smash into people, when ever I tried to play "footie" I always would get reprimands, beccause I approched encroachment, of the other teams offence on my net, as I would playing goalie in hockey.

Though I do watch world cup for the coverage of the riots.
I have paid attention to them ever since I saw the story of that poor columbian who accidentally headered the ball into his own net. Shot 17 times by his compatriots, who were screaming "OWN GOAL!":mp5: hilarious.

No sport is better than the other.

There are different aspects to each sport, in which different cultures are drawn to, but that does not necessarily mean one is greater than the other. Personally I would be incline to say American Football, why? Because I have played it for 12 years, but I realize that each requires a different set of skills, not more skills.

As for the arguement: "American football isn't football because everywhere else we call it rugby." Whatever happened to respecting another culture's difference, oh wait is that because: "Americans don't have a culture so it's ok." Bah humbug.

American Football doesn't involve tactics? I watch on average five hours of game film a week preparing for another team and put that on top of my 70 page playbook.

Yep Australian Football League....also known as "Aussie Rules".
Like it says Aussie Rules. The blokes that play this code of football:
(1)Have enough Testicular Fortitute to take a hit without having to wear body armour and tights.
(2) Dont get tapped on the shins and then then nominate themselves for an acadamy award by rolling around on the grass in an attempt to get a free kick by making the umpire feel sorry for them.
(3) Have to possess a lot more skill than to just run the ball in one direction while throwing it back in the other and build little sand castles.

(1)Have enough Testicular Fortitute to take a hit without having to wear armor or tights

Pads do nothing and to counter that no wonder Rugby players don't need to wear pads. They fucking lasso tackle everytime, put your shoulder/head into someone and drive.

I'll have to say American. Don't know much about soccer. Looks like people running around in circles.

I do like college sports better than pro. They play with more emotion and they really enjoy what they are doing. Pro sports is mechanical.

And some of us are just lazy and play a fast off-loading game:D

But in all seriousness rugby beats all. I prefer it to Am Football, partly because the players have more of a mental and tactical role to play. Am Football is a bit too coach orientated for my taste, no enough opportunity for individual/team flair.
Which takes a hell of a lot of skill.

Pads do nothing and to counter that no wonder Rugby players don't need to wear pads. They fucking lasso tackle everytime, put your shoulder/head into someone and drive.

Which normally ends up with you on the floor and the Rugby player scoring a try.
There is no obsession in rugby with 'power' running. You have to WRAP UP or you'll miss the tackle. (Back to tackling 101 for you methinks.)

Which normally ends up with you on the floor and the Rugby player scoring a try.
There is no obsession in rugby with 'power' running. You have to WRAP UP or you'll miss the tackle. (Back to tackling 101 for you methinks.)
Of coruse you lasso tackle-there three types of tackle-dump (Hit in the waist, pick up by legs and then drops after tacking a few steps forwards-using them as a cusion), Grab (a 'lassoo tackle, stops the offload) and dive, (Then the oppersitions beaten you and you need to catch them. The fact is that options 1 and 3 are last ditch, otherwise the oppersition will just run past you http://www.brown.edu/Students/Brown_Men_Rugby/images/tackle.jpg
Example A), if you atckle like this, while a good tackle, ythe oppersition will just offlaod and you've left a gap in your defensive line, thus creating a hole for the support to run into.

http://www.oxfordstudent.com/article_images/148/6456/rugby.jpg This is a dive tackle. Th guys been done oin the outside and has to dive to catch the opp. this is dangerious of the tackler becuase of the opps. feet.

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/empics/20040320/16/2730091504.jpg
Good tackle by BOd here, the italian can't offload at all, because BOD has hold of the ball.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39438000/jpg/_39438628_tackle_gi300x245.jpg
Another example of why Dump tackling is not good in line, Marshall has got the ball away dispite being in mid-air, resulting in a all balck try.

http://images.supersport.co.za/HabanaTacklesSANZ105.jpg
Even with this massive hit the ball is gone,
www.angelfire.com/theforce/fandango0/tackle.jpg
And this is wehre protection would be useful.

American Football, naturally. There's so much depth of play strategy involved that it's on a whole other level.

And to those of you who say it's too coach-oriented... Get out. The Quarterback makes plays with his team mates most of the time --- the coach just suggests what plays should be made, and when.

Terry Bradshaw, Fran Tarkenton, Joe Montana, John Elway, and Dan Marino all made plays on-field and on the spot. That's why they were so great.

Two words: La Liga.

Of coruse you lasso tackle-there three types of tackle-dump (Hit in the waist, pick up by legs and then drops after tacking a few steps forwards-using them as a cusion), Grab (a 'lassoo tackle, stops the offload) and dive, (Then the oppersitions beaten you and you need to catch them. The fact is that options 1 and 3 are last ditch, otherwise the oppersition will just run past you
Example A), if you atckle like this, while a good tackle, ythe oppersition will just offlaod and you've left a gap in your defensive line, thus creating a hole for the support to run into.

This is a dive tackle. Th guys been done oin the outside and has to dive to catch the opp. this is dangerious of the tackler becuase of the opps. feet.


Good tackle by BOd here, the italian can't offload at all, because BOD has hold of the ball.


Another example of why Dump tackling is not good in line, Marshall has got the ball away dispite being in mid-air, resulting in a all balck try.


Even with this massive hit the ball is gone,

And this is wehre protection would be useful.

Let me be clear here. I was criticising the comments on how to tackle in American Football. Just a power drive through the ball carrier simply is not going to work 80% of the time. How many missed tackles do you see every week of the season where an OLB has tried this. The comment by Luporum that implied that 'lasso" (sic) tackles did away with the need for pads is wrong in so many ways. The primary of these is that one of the first things you are taught in tackling in American Football is to wrap up the runner. (You don't have to worry about him offloading the ball normally as that is too risky in an outright possession game.)

I have played both RFU and American Football and the tackling techniques are different. In RFU the idea is to stop the flow of the opponents move, and this means restricting the ball movement even if it allows a few extra yards of progress. In American football it is more about stopping the forward progress dead and the ball is secondary. Hence there are different techniques.

A tackle such as that made by Brian O'Driscoll in the photos made on an American Footballer would not achieve the desired effect in that sport, but then the typical Linebacker would not be very effective at tackling in Rugby as the ball would be easily offloaded.

However in both sports tackling has one basic intent. To stop the opponent. This is not going to happen if you do not grab hold of him.

Two words: La Liga.
That doesn't really mean anything. I wouldn't say that a league where the third placed team consists of over-paid show ponies well beyond their best is necessarily an argument for football being better than American football.

Can someone tell me why american football is called football as most of the time they seem to be running with the ball in their hands. A better description would be American handball I think

Can someone tell me why american football is called football as most of the time they seem to be running with the ball in their hands. A better description would be American handball I think

What a surprise. You said nothing about Australian Rules Football in this post, even though it's based on the same principles.

That doesn't really mean anything. I wouldn't say that a league where the third placed team consists of over-paid show ponies well beyond their best is necessarily an argument for football being better than American football.
What I meant was actually simply that I prefer football over american.

Edit: Whoa, that came out crazy, but I think it might be understandable.

What a surprise. You said nothing about Australian Rules Football in this post, even though it's based on the same principles.

Why should he? When the first post compares american football and English football (ok maybe not English but didnt we invent it? Just guessing by the way).

What I meant was actually simply that I prefer football over american.

Edit: Whoa, that came out crazy, but I think it might be understandable.
You could've just said that...;)

Yeah, but I wanted to seem like someone who knew something. It's nice to pretend sometimes :D

Why should he? When the first post compares american football and English football (ok maybe not English but didnt we invent it? Just guessing by the way).

My guess is that his post would've been the same had the topic post included Aussie Rules Football.

Let me be clear here. I was criticising the comments on how to tackle in American Football. Just a power drive through the ball carrier simply is not going to work 80% of the time. How many missed tackles do you see every week of the season where an OLB has tried this. The comment by Luporum that implied that 'lasso" (sic) tackles did away with the need for pads is wrong in so many ways. The primary of these is that one of the first things you are taught in tackling in American Football is to wrap up the runner. (You don't have to worry about him offloading the ball normally as that is too risky in an outright possession game.)

I have played both RFU and American Football and the tackling techniques are different. In RFU the idea is to stop the flow of the opponents move, and this means restricting the ball movement even if it allows a few extra yards of progress. In American football it is more about stopping the forward progress dead and the ball is secondary. Hence there are different techniques.

A tackle such as that made by Brian O'Driscoll in the photos made on an American Footballer would not achieve the desired effect in that sport, but then the typical Linebacker would not be very effective at tackling in Rugby as the ball would be easily offloaded.

However in both sports tackling has one basic intent. To stop the opponent. This is not going to happen if you do not grab hold of him.
Okay, I get you, sorry mate. In rugby, especally if your playing a Blitz defence that Extra 2-3 yeards can be made up in the ruck, plus passing the ball backwards is a great help. The main thing in rugby is the defensive line and hitting your tackles.

What a surprise. You said nothing about Australian Rules Football in this post, even though it's based on the same principles.

Australian Rules Football & American Football have nothing in common, except the name football.

Aussie Rules is played on an oval, the main method of passing the ball is by foot, goals can only be scored from a kick, you cannot throw the ball, play goes forwards, backwards & sideways, no padding is worn, play is continuous, no stopping for time outs, player/team substitutions or tactical huddles, etc, etc.

Hockey.

For me, football (soccer) is more fun to play, while American football is more fun too watch.

Australian Rules Football & American Football have nothing in common, except the name football.

Aussie Rules is played on an oval, the main method of passing the ball is by foot, goals can only be scored from a kick, you cannot throw the ball, play goes forwards, backwards & sideways, no padding is worn, play is continuous, no stopping for time outs, player/team substitutions or tactical huddles, etc, etc.
can you just explain Aussie Rules, I've watched it but I have no idea whats going on!

can you just explain Aussie Rules, I've watched it but I have no idea whats going on!

I would find it very difficult to explain it without you watching it at the same time.

Wiki does a pretty good job of explaining it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aussie_rules

football (the real football where you use your FEET and not your HANDS hence the name FOOTball)

and of course england has the best football, on average our teams are better in my opinion and i think the general population is more passionate about it and this might be our second champions league win in a row if aresnal win and we might take the uefa cup with middlesborough too

Rugby beats all!
Only if the Wallabys are winning.

football (the real football where you use your FEET and not your HANDS hence the name FOOTball)

and of course england has the best football, on average our teams are better in my opinion and i think the general population is more passionate about it and this might be our second champions league win in a row if aresnal win and we might take the uefa cup with middlesborough too

You use your feet in American Football...

You use your feet in American Football...


Yeah, for running...

OK, so you might kick too but in actual Football the primary means of play is kicking.

Rugby Football at least has the grace to mark itself out as a variant on the rules of Football.

The kind of football which is called football everywhere except the USA.
Wikipedia says that football is called soccer in the USA, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Japan, and Korea.

Rugby Football at least has the grace to mark itself out as a variant on the rules of Football

Just because a majority of people in this forum are European doesn't make it cool to slant against American Football. Silly little fanboy.

I think there's a big difference between sports like football and rugby union and sports like American football and rugby league. In the former the rules are there to allow play to carry on. Even when you have a foul the rules are there to allow the game to proceed without an unfair advantage to one team. In the latter sports though, they bear the hallmarks of modern twists on classic ideas in being over engineered, with rules to artificially stop play without any though as to how it affects the flow of the game.

Just because a majority of people in this forum are European doesn't make it cool to slant against American Football. Silly little fanboy.

John Elway is your god.

John Elway is your god.

I worship Jack Tatum actually.

I worship Jack Tatum actually.

John could throw a football 93 yards. He ran a low 4.6 40 in college (his acceleration was the only thing that prevented him from getting a 4.4 or a 4.5 --- he could beat a lot of receivers in the long run). He had close to a 4.0 GPA.

He is your god. Deny it not.

John could throw a football 93 yards. He ran a low 4.6 40 in college (his acceleration was the only thing that prevented him from getting a 4.4 or a 4.5 --- he could beat a lot of receivers in the long run). He had close to a 4.0 GPA.

He is your god. Deny it not.

Jack Tatum was 230lbs ran a 4.2 and knocked two people unconcious in one game. He paralyzed a guy in a preseason game and his response was: "It's part of the game."

As a linebacker who tied his high school record for sacks it's my job to hunt down QBs and hurt them, not worship them. As a Raider fan...well you get the idea.

Jack Tatum was 230lbs ran a 4.2 and knocked two people unconcious in one game. He paralyzed a guy in a preseason game and his response was: "It's part of the game."

As a linebacker who tied his high school record for sacks it's my job to hunt down QBs and hurt them, not worship them. As a Raider fan...well you get the idea.

Haha. I bet I could evade you like *snap* that.

:D

Haha. I bet I could evade you like *snap* that.

:D

The only snapping that would happen is when me and my DE friend high low you. :D

Kinda jealous he starts for the University of South Carolina while the best I could do was get a letter of interest from Penn State and Yale. I like DIII though, nice and fun.

The only snapping that would happen is when me and my DE friend high low you. :D

Kinda jealous he starts for the University of South Carolina while the best I could do was get a letter of interest from Penn State and Yale. I like DIII though, nice and fun.

1: Ever seen film of Fran Tarkenton? I'm like that, but a lot faster and more nimble. That's where a stout build comes in handy, eh? :p

2: That's pretty cool. Your friend starting for SC, that is. I never even had the chance to play HS football, since I've been home-schooled since the start of the 4th grade. But, a friend of mine is going to Texas Tech (he played WR in HS). Whether or not he'll start is another thing entirely, though I'm hoping he does.

Just because a majority of people in this forum are European doesn't make it cool to slant against American Football. Silly little fanboy.

This entire thread is about slants against one or the other. What are you smoking?

Football any of the football games american english australian or what have pales in comparison to reals sports. Like full contact female jello wrestling.

1: Ever seen film of Fran Tarkenton? I'm like that, but a lot faster and more nimble. That's where a stout build comes in handy, eh? :p

I run a 4.5-4.6 and can squat 500lbs so I guess I would have a stout build. The only time I've missed a tackle is when I tore the ligaments in my hand. I play just like Greg Lloyd :)

2: That's pretty cool. Your friend starting for SC, that is. I never even had the chance to play HS football, since I've been home-schooled since the start of the 4th grade. But, a friend of mine is going to Texas Tech (he played WR in HS). Whether or not he'll start is another thing entirely, though I'm hoping he does.

Me and my dad watched him play in the Independence Bowl and we were pumped. It's also cool because I was the one who got him to start playing. Playing the sport is a double edged sword though because I have so many health problems that have stemmed from it: Asthma, Concussions, have a tumor growing from calcium deposits in my arm.

I run a 4.5-4.6 and can squat 500lbs so I guess I would have a stout build. The only time I've missed a tackle is when I tore the ligaments in my hand. I play just like Greg Lloyd :)



Me and my dad watched him play in the Independence Bowl and we were pumped. It's also cool because I was the one who got him to start playing. Playing the sport is a double edged sword though because I have so many health problems that have stemmed from it: Asthma, Concussions, have a tumor growing from calcium deposits in my arm.

1: Ack. If you're above 6'2", I don't wanna play against you. :p

2: Yeah, football can be really harsh on a lot of people. The strange thing is that my WR friend's worst injury was a bruised pinky finger, caused by a DE's helmet. He'd be creamed by *huge* kids, and he wouldn't even get bruised. The funny (or not so funny) thing is, he got injured all the time when he played baseball. Cuts, bruises, sprains, and tendinitis.

REAL football, not the bastardized version of rugby they play in the States.

REAL football, not the bastardized version of rugby they play in the States.

Aw... What's wrong with it?

Aw... What's wrong with it?
It's a bunch of macho men trying to prove they're more macho then the other team.

It's a bunch of macho men trying to prove they're more macho then the other team.

That's the NFL, dude (I know you're not a "dude", but I use dude on everyone, so deal with it). High School and College are entirely different, because not everyone on a team will be over 6' tall.

That's the NFL, dude (I know you're not a "dude", but I use dude on everyone, so deal with it). High School and College are entirely different, because not everyone on a team will be over 6' tall.
HA! Then you have obviously not met the football players at my school. I'm surprised none of them have tripped over their egos yet.
(don't worry about the dude thing, i get called dude/calls everyone dude all the time.)

HA! Then you have obviously not met the football players at my school. I'm surprised none of them have tripped over their egos yet.
(don't worry about the dude thing, i get called dude/calls everyone dude all the time.)

Yeah, it varies from school to school, really. Most of the players on my town's HS team are under 6', and none of them have huge egos.

If only it were like that everywhere else. :p

Yeah, it varies from school to school, really. Most of the players on my town's HS team are under 6', and none of them have huge egos.

If only it were like that everywhere else. :p
wow...your town must be special. Whatever, the sport is still crass and brutish.

wow...your town must be special. Whatever, the sport is still crass and brutish.

That's what makes it fun!

2: Yeah, football can be really harsh on a lot of people. The strange thing is that my WR friend's worst injury was a bruised pinky finger, caused by a DE's helmet. He'd be creamed by *huge* kids, and he wouldn't even get bruised. The funny (or not so funny) thing is, he got injured all the time when he played baseball. Cuts, bruises, sprains, and tendinitis.
I know what you mean by that-theres some people that can take tackles, end up under a 1-0 man ruck, put in massive hits all day and not be injured. Then theres others who can't step onto the feild without brekaing a rib (Wilkinson)