NationStates Jolt Archive


How much did it matter?

Forsakia
29-04-2006, 14:27
to US citizens, that Britain and other countries supported the war in Iraq. Or how much does it matter whether other countries support US foreign policy in general?

Poll coming if I can work out how to do it:rolleyes:
Tactical Grace
29-04-2006, 14:37
Well, they keep saying they don't care what anyone else thinks, so I'd say it didn't matter and there is no point helping in future.
BogMarsh
29-04-2006, 14:43
Q: Do you know how to defend Paris?
A: Unknown. No one has ever tried.

but then again:

Q: How do you make a yankee reasonable?
A: You can't - it's unconstitutional!
Heavenly Sex
29-04-2006, 14:44
Well, they keep saying they don't care what anyone else thinks, so I'd say it didn't matter and there is no point helping in future.
Indeed. If they want to do any more braindead nonsense like the Iraq war, let them do it by themselves :rolleyes:
Nodinia
29-04-2006, 14:58
Q: Do you know how to defend Paris?
A: Unknown. No one has ever tried.

unconstitutional!

Except in 1870 and by dying in droves during WW1....but don't let that bother you...
Tactical Grace
29-04-2006, 15:02
Except in 1870 and by dying in droves during WW1....but don't let that bother you...
France lost a quarter million men in WW2 too. People seem to forget that they did actually fight, completely outgunned and knowing that death and defeat was certain.
Sdaeriji
29-04-2006, 15:04
Except in 1870 and by dying in droves during WW1....but don't let that bother you...

Do you also enjoy kicking puppies and popping little children's balloons, in addition to spoiling jokes?
Eutrusca
29-04-2006, 15:05
Well, they keep saying they don't care what anyone else thinks, so I'd say it didn't matter and there is no point helping in future.
And just who is this "they" you indicate doesn't care? Hmm?
Nodinia
29-04-2006, 15:05
to US citizens, that Britain and other countries supported the war in Iraq. Or how much does it matter whether other countries support US foreign policy in general?

Poll coming if I can work out how to do it:rolleyes:

Considering that a super-powers threats, bribery etc can be ensured to produce at least nominal support, its largely irrelevant. And theres always toadying idiots. The small amount released from a Jan 2003 meeting between Bush and Blair shows a disgusting level of sycophancy.

"President Bush said that:

"The US would put its full weight behind efforts to get another resolution and would 'twist arms' and 'even threaten'. But he had to say that if ultimately we failed, military action would follow anyway.''

Prime Minister Blair responded that he was: "solidly with the President and ready to do whatever it took to disarm Saddam."

But Mr Blair said that: "a second Security Council resolution would provide an insurance policy against the unexpected, and international cover, including with the Arabs."
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id=1661
Tactical Grace
29-04-2006, 15:09
And just who is this "they" you indicate doesn't care? Hmm?
I have seen countless posts here over the years from Americans boasting that they don't care about anyone else's opinion on anything. I have also seen plenty of people like that on the TV news, all yee-haa and how everyone else can just deal with it. So it does seem to be a widespread attitude.
DrunkenDove
29-04-2006, 15:10
And just who is this "they" you indicate doesn't care? Hmm?

The Nazis?
BogMarsh
29-04-2006, 15:17
Except in 1870 and by dying in droves during WW1....but don't let that bother you...

Like.. I was spoofing the Neocons? Hence the unconstitutional-comment.
Dude111
29-04-2006, 15:19
to US citizens, that Britain and other countries supported the war in Iraq. Or how much does it matter whether other countries support US foreign policy in general?

Poll coming if I can work out how to do it:rolleyes:
Not a whole lot. Americans still have to do most of the fighting. And dying.
Nodinia
29-04-2006, 15:21
Like.. I was spoofing the Neocons? Hence the unconstitutional-comment.


My apologies. Ever since the end of seal clubbing season I've been twitchy....
Forsakia
29-04-2006, 15:22
Not a whole lot. Americans still have to do most of the fighting. And dying.
I'm talking less in terms of the cost in manpower/money/etc, and more about whether it meant anything to US citizens that other countries agreed with what they were doing or not (unless that's what you meant anyway):rolleyes:
BogMarsh
29-04-2006, 15:23
My apologies. Ever since the end of seal clubbing season I've been twitchy....

Gladly accepted.

*pissed at hisself for not being more obvious*
Carnivorous Lickers
29-04-2006, 15:25
And just who is this "they" you indicate doesn't care? Hmm?

He's the Lifted Lorax - He speaks for us- he knows what people in the United States think and what we dont think. And its always negative, oddly enough.
Tactical Grace
29-04-2006, 15:31
he knows what people in the Untited States think and what we dont think. And its always negative, oddly enough.
Hey, I watch FOX News. I keep up to date. :D
Carnivorous Lickers
29-04-2006, 15:40
I have seen countless posts here over the years from Americans boasting that they don't care about anyone else's opinion on anything. I have also seen plenty of people like that on the TV news, all yee-haa and how everyone else can just deal with it. So it does seem to be a widespread attitude.


You've seen them on the news, huh? That makes you a certified expert. So, the news is accurate when it suits your crusade?

I remember some really smug europeans on the news just days after 9/11 saying we brought that attack on ourselves and we had it coming.

Should I now assume that small sample of scum bags speak on behalf of all of you? Or know that the news will often only exhibit the more sensational and fancy crap?


I,for one, am glad when the real allies of the US stand by us,even when we face a potential Pandora's Box of complications, problems and detractors that lose sight of the real problem at hand and seek to blame and besmirch all efforts, no matter how well intended.
Carnivorous Lickers
29-04-2006, 15:42
Hey, I watch FOX News. I keep up to date. :D

I watch a small sample of each. They all have an agenda and you have to keep that in mind so there agenda doesnt inadvertantly become your own.
Nodinia
29-04-2006, 20:20
I,for one, am glad when the real allies of the US stand by us,even when we face a potential Pandora's Box of complications, problems and detractors that lose sight of the real problem at hand and seek to blame and besmirch all efforts, no matter how well intended.


Like Togo, Uzbekistan and the Marshall Islands....
HotRodia
29-04-2006, 20:29
I have seen countless posts here over the years from Americans boasting that they don't care about anyone else's opinion on anything. I have also seen plenty of people like that on the TV news, all yee-haa and how everyone else can just deal with it. So it does seem to be a widespread attitude.

The correct spelling is yee-haw! :p
Laerod
29-04-2006, 20:33
to US citizens, that Britain and other countries supported the war in Iraq. Or how much does it matter whether other countries support US foreign policy in general?

Poll coming if I can work out how to do it:rolleyes:You're asking the wrong question: How much does it matter for US foreign policy to be something our allies would be able to support? That matters quite a bit.
Kzord
29-04-2006, 20:48
The correct spelling is yee-haw! :p
It's hard to believe that there is a separate British English and American English way to spell "yee-haa"/"yee-haw".

I always spelled it "yee-haa".
HotRodia
29-04-2006, 20:51
It's hard to believe that there is a separate British English and American English way to spell "yee-haa"/"yee-haw".

I always spelled it "yee-haa".

That's what happens when two countries are separated by a common language, mate. :)
Jello Biafra
29-04-2006, 21:24
It matters to me, as one country going alone is only in rare circumstances going aside. I don't consider other countries going along and receiving increased foreign aid as a ringing endorsement of policy.