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First Canada, now Mexico. Next the USA?

Mexico proposes decriminalizing pot and cocaine
Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:49pm ET171

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Owning marijuana, cocaine and even heroin will no longer be a crime in Mexico if the drugs are carried in small amounts for personal use, under legislation passed by the Congress.

Police will not penalize people for possessing up to 5 grams of marijuana, 5 grams of opium, 25 milligrams of heroin or 500 milligrams of cocaine, under a bill passed by senators late on Thursday and earlier approved by the lower house.

People caught with larger quantities of drugs will be treated as narcotics dealers and face increased jail terms under the plan.

The government says the measure allows police to focus on major drug dealers, and President Fox is expected to sign it into law.

"This law provides more judicial tools for authorities to fight crime," presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar said on Friday.

Hundreds of people including several police officers have been killed in the past year as drug cartels battle authorities and compete with each other for control of lucrative cocaine, marijuana and heroin smuggling routes from Mexico into the United States.

The violence has raged mostly in northern Mexico but in recent months has spread south to cities like vacation resort Acapulco.

Under current law, it is up to local judges and police to decide on a case-by-case basis whether people should be prosecuted for possessing small quantities of drugs, a source at the Senate's health commission told Reuters.

"The object of this law is to not put consumers in jail, but rather those who sell and poison," said Sen. Jorge Zermeno of the ruling National Action Party.

Fifty-three senators voted for the bill with 26 votes against it.

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Why would we legalize it? The Conservatives (the drug lords best allies in Congress) can't get re-elected by their backwards constituencies if they legalize it.

good stuff. glad to here it. it's not the users that should be targetted (they'r almost as much victims as the rest of us), it's the dealers, traffickers and producers (not the farmers) who should get the shit thrown at them.

Mexico certainly needs to try something new. Good luck to them. I'd agree to tackle the small fries and consumers are mostly a waste of money and resources.

I'd actually like to see Cannabis totally decriminalised (possession and dealing) in the UK, as it's a total waste of police time, and no more dangerous than tobacco.

They're doing it for the right reasons anyway. I think police in every country need to target the dealers and traffickers and stop wasting time filling their prisons with small time users.

Decriminalising marijuana would make sense, and alleviate the judicial system somewhat. But cocaine and heroin? I'm not so sure...

(And Canada hasn't passed any legislation to decriminalize marijuana, and certainly not cocaine or heroin.)

That's a good idea, that way they can better concentrate on the dealers and such.

Oh, the USA will be furious. Americans going to Mexico for their drug hits, legally! :p

Shoot the Trafficers and put the druggis in communal institutions until they are rehabilitated, so what if 88% of New Zealanders would be put away at some point...

I'd actually like to see Cannabis totally decriminalised (possession and dealing) in the UK, as it's a total waste of police time, and no more dangerous than tobacco.

I'd like to see Tobacco illegalised....

"The object of this law is to not put consumers in jail, but rather those who sell and poison," said Sen. Jorge Zermeno of the ruling National Action Party.

If this would become law in the u.s., what to do with all the freed jail space? Schools? Theatres? Hotels?

And the freed money...wow.

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)

I think I speak for most when I say I hope you never gain any position of authority in your life.

'bout time too.

No victim, no crime.

The police would be better employed chasing down illegal aliens than spliffy-smokers.

First Canada, now Mexico. Next the USA?
We didn't end up decriminalizing pot due to pressure from american politicians.

It's just as well, if they just have to write a ticket over posession of pot, the cops will do it. If they have to do something about it then they won't.

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)


I'm not sure why I'm responding to this but let's put it this way.

You would have to shoot about 50% of all people from 16-21. Not because those are the only guilty ones, they are just the ones thick enough to be caught...

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)

No. Your idea is horrible. It is the most laughably absurd thing I have ever heard. No one should be shot and killed based on a personal decision, regardless of whether that personal decision is to poison their own body or not.

This law would not encourage people to stop doing drugs. This law would encourage drug users to pack heat so they could kill the cop that busts them for drug use. When you're already going to get the death sentence for doing the drugs, why not chance getting away with it by blowing away the only witness? It's not like they could kill you twice if they pick you up for killing the cop.

No. Your idea is horrible. It is the most laughably absurd thing I have ever heard. No one should be shot and killed based on a personal decision, regardless of whether that personal decision is to poison their own body or not.

SNIP


Suppose I were to make a personal decision to exterminate you.
A personal decision, ok?
Is it your contention that a personal decision makes the crime acceptable or summat?

Suppose I were to make a personal decision to exterminate you.
A personal decision, ok?
Is it your contention that a personal decision makes the crime acceptable or summat?

That's assinine. Choosing to kill me isn't a personal decision. That very much affects me. Please, go away and don't come back until you're able to debate like a rational adult, one who understands the differences between choosing to do drugs and choosing to kill another human being.

That's assinine. Choosing to kill me isn't a personal decision. That very much affects me. Please, go away and don't come back until you're able to debate like a rational adult, one who understands the differences between choosing to do drugs and choosing to kill another human being.

Shaddap, kid. 'Personal decisions' being somehow excusable are a made-uppie legal doctrine not found in the manuals.

Shaddap, kid. 'Personal decisions' being somehow excusable are a made-uppie legal doctrine not found in the manuals.

The manuals? What the hell are you on? All I said is that a drug user should not be murdered based on their decision to use drugs, mostly because that decision harms no one else. It is impossible to morally justify killing a person who has harmed no one besides their own willing self.

The manuals? What the hell are you on? All I said is that a drug user should not be murdered based on their decision to use drugs, mostly because that decision harms no one else. It is impossible to morally justify killing a person who has harmed no one besides their own willing self.


So, is this an existing legal doctrine, or is it just one of your personal beliefs?

If you want to argue in a non-ridiculous way, you might try invoking an existing legal and/or philosophical doctrine.

What you have offered instead is an utterly personal opinion on the 'I have a pretty dinosaur and it is pink!'-level.

He was referring to personal decisions which by the most commonly used definition affect only the individual making them. You're just being a pedantic troll.

So, is this an existing legal doctrine, or is it just one of your personal beliefs?

If you want to argue in a non-ridiculous way, you might try invoking an existing legal and/or philosophical doctrine.

What you have offered instead is an utterly personal opinion on the 'I have a pretty dinosaur and it is pink!'-level.

I suppose I could exhibit how capital punishment in most civilized society is outright banned or reserved for crimes such as murder or rape, and not crimes such as drug use or other "victimless" crimes like embezzlement and the like. But really, I thought I was quite clear in my posts that it was my personal morality saying it is wrong to kill someone for a crime that harms no one besides themselves.

Perhaps, rather than attempt to dismiss my argument from personal opinion, you could provide legal or philosophical doctrine that would justify the death sentence for minor drug use?

We didn't end up decriminalizing pot due to pressure from american politicians.



Exactly, and that is why Mexico won't do it either.

The manuals? What the hell are you on? All I said is that a drug user should not be murdered based on their decision to use drugs, mostly because that decision harms no one else. It is impossible to morally justify killing a person who has harmed no one besides their own willing self.

Don't you love arguing with people who are being intentionally ignorant just to win a debate?



Actually, if I don't clarify, he'll probably think I'm talking about you (sd) being ignorant..

He can't or I can't?

I can invoke the image of a person who doesn't actually harm anyone - but offends my sensibilities by tattoo-ing himself with a slogan saying: get the zionist-jew-scum out of Holy Land Palestine!

I for one think that that is reason enough to give said tattoo-ist a choice between regular or extra-crispy on the chair.

Don't you love arguing with people who are being intentionally ignorant just to win a debate?

I love nothing. I am a very bitter man. :)

He can't or I can't?

I can invoke the image of a person who doesn't actually harm anyone - but offends my sensibilities by tattoo-ing himself with a slogan saying: get the zionist-jew-scum out of Holy Land Palestine!

I for one think that that is reason enough to give said tattoo-ist a choice between regular or extra-crispy on the chair.

Well, then, if you believe that people should be executed for offending your sensibilities in manners that bring you no actual harm, then I say you are a sick, sick individual, and I personally believe that this world would be a much better place with you, and people of your ilk, not in it. I suppose now you think I ought to be executed for my crimes.

I love nothing. I am a very bitter man. :)


You just need a big man hug.




Preferably not from me.

Yay Mexico.
Who'da thought it. Mexico more progressive and sensible than the US.

You just need a big man hug.




Preferably not from me.

Is that a big hug from a man, or a hug from a big man? Not that it makes any particular difference; I'd just like to know who will be hugging me.

Is that a big hug from a man, or a hug from a big man? Not that it makes any particular difference; I'd just like to know who will be hugging me.


I was thinking of the former.

Well, then, if you believe that people should be executed for offending your sensibilities in manners that bring you no actual harm, then I say you are a sick, sick individual, and I personally believe that this world would be a much better place with you, and people of your ilk, not in it. I suppose now you think I ought to be executed for my crimes.


I'll combine this with your previous comment.

The doctrine that I would invoke is as follows:

any act of defiance against properly constituted authority, quite regardless of dimension, should be punished with the utmost severity and rigour.

It does not matter whether one commited murder or committed a parking-offence, what cooks the goose is that properly constituted authority was not unquestioningly obeyed.

I'd like to see Tobacco illegalised....

Same here. Together with bungy jumping smoking is one of the most retarded things humans do.

Same here. Together with bungy jumping smoking is one of the most retarded things humans do.

Making things illegal because it's bad for you is against my principles.

Making things illegal because it's bad for you is against my principles.

But not mine! One day, when I'll be ruler of the universe I'll kill everybody so no one will break my glorious laws :p

On a serious note though...I'm very positive to the thought that bad habits should be severly penelized (sp?) by the government. Bad habit-ers cost us too much. But it's just good that we disagree, as I've come to understand a sucessful nation thrives on the free word and the free will =)

But not mine! One day, when I'll be ruler of the universe I'll so no one will break my glorious laws :p

On a serious note though...I'm very positive to the thought that bad habits should be severly penelized (sp?) by the government. Bad habit-ers cost us too much. But it's just good that we disagree, as I've come to understand a sucessful nation thrives on the free word and the free will =)If they penalize bad spelling, you're in big trouble.

If they penalize bad spelling, you're in big trouble.

Yeah, me and most others with me.

Yeah, me and most others with me.


America doesn't even have a formal national language.
So how can it have a formal spelling?

America doesn't even have a formal national language.
So how can it have a formal spelling?

Why are you asking me that? I'm the one with the bad spelling. Ask bitch instead.

Tactical convenience + troublesome mouse. Let Kitten be free to bitch in...

WOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!

worldwide NS meet june 21st, 2007 in CANCUN !!

I wonder how Mexico will deal with the millions of Americans who move across the border in search of a better life.

WOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!

worldwide NS meet june 21st, 2007 in CANCUN !!

Great, thousands of drunks and stoned NSers in one place. That's going to be interesting!

I wonder how Mexico will deal with the millions of Americans who move across the border in search of a better life.
...and the evil dollars they bring with them? *googles tijuana real estate*

Why does it seem like, in this thread, those arguing vehemently against decriminalization (or arguing for automatic death sentences for possession) appear to be either drunk or smoking crack, while the rest seem to have sober, rational arguments?

Irony?

Why does it seem like, in this thread, those arguing vehemently against decriminalization (or arguing for automatic death sentences for possession) appear to be either drunk or smoking crack, while the rest seem to have sober, rational arguments?

Irony?two words: Rush Limbaugh

It's kind of like how Republican politicians who hate gays are gay.

Great, thousands of drunks and stoned NSers in one place. That's going to be interesting!

it woudl be a great time! im thinking its the only way we could stand each other. someone would start in on how abortion is baby killing and someone else would say "hey wanna try this?" and the conversation would change.

the only drawback is how to convince the parents of those who are minors that its going to be a nice harmless weekend.

two words: Rush Limbaugh

It's kind of like how Republican politicians who hate gays are gay.

I would like to point out

1)I am gay
2)I am a conservitive
3)I am pro choice
4)I am pro 2nd amendment
5)I did NOT vote for bush the first time around (did the second time, like hell was I gona vote for that assclown kerry)
6)I am extreemly anti christian.

You should think before you post. Just because someone is anti-drug use, or another view you may not agree with does not automaticly make them republican, or a gay hater, or a *snort* christan.

My points made in my post have yet to be argued or rebuted, all anyone has done is spew "oh your a bad person for thinking like that". Thereby makeing my point quite valid.

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)You know what's funny... most of the starched shirts that would agree with you on this would add homosexuals to the list... you'd probably be on that first cattlecar to the deathcamp.

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)
Your nation state name is almost correct.....all you need to do is add ing at the end!! :eek:

So for this kill-all-drug-users idea, are we going to include people who abuse legal drugs? More drug abuse happens with legal than illegal drugs, so it makes sense right?

The Mexican government may end up doing something right? Novel.

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)


With the goal of improving society, I suggest we kill you.

Talk like this hurt society more then smoking pot ever will.

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)

Has anyone else noticed that these people's posts are always the least literate in any thread?

With the goal of improving society, I suggest we kill you.

Talk like this hurt society more then smoking pot ever will.

So what your saying is, you value free handouts and a burden on a countrys citizens, just to save a few lives. Lives I point out that not only provide a good % of the crime rate, but contrubute little to nothing back into said countries society.

So what your saying is, you value free handouts and a burden on a countrys citizens, just to save a few lives. Lives I point out that not only provide a good % of the crime rate, but contrubute little to nothing back into said countries society.

Working people and professionals smoke pot too. Drug use doesn't make one "useless to society", drug addiction might interfere with one's ability to hold a job, but simply using drugs doesn't.

If we're wiping out drug users, can we start with people who smoke tobacco and drink alcohol?

Ive said it on other fourms about threads like this.

The single best solution to the intire problem of drug traffic, and use is. Make its use, or even its posession a death sentance. Cop pulls you over, you got a 8ball on you, or a joint. Your filmed, your taken to jail, your tried, convicted, and excucuted on the same day your found guilty.

What about appeals? What about the financial cost of hiring armies of police officers, lawyers, judges, court officials, etc. to run this inhumanly large judicial machine? I don't thinkyou've really thought this out.

Now I realise alot of you are going to scream about that idea. Scream how "pots not dangerous" or "human lifes are worth more than that" and here is my rebutle to it.

Actually, I'm too stoned to do much screaming right now...are you gonna eat that?

1)While I can agree it apears pot has few side affects, the long term use just hasnt been studyed long enough. We don't know what 50 years exposure will do to you. Also, there is enough evidence out there that DUI rates, criminal B&E, and robberies can be tied to heavier drug use areas of the country. Leagaliseing it, is not going to alieviate any of this. People will still drive stoned/high/drunk. People are still goign to break into houses to steal, or rob others, for money to buy XXXX drug from the store.

Due to current drug laws, it would be illegal to do a large-scale scientific study on marijuana and its long term effects, but it is very easy to find anecdotal evidence that long-term exposure to marijuana is no more hramful that long term exposure to excessive salt in your diet. As for your claim that criminal behaviour is tied to heavier drug use areas, please provide a cite showing how increased drug use causes increased crime.

2)There is 6billion+people on this earth. Human life has become worthless, we are after all just another animal. In fact Its my opinion we put far too much value on a individules life rather than the betterment of all society and the race in general.

In your eyes only.

((**note** I do feal all DUI should have the same punishments, along with rape and sex with a minor under 15)

How interesting and tangential.

Working people and professionals smoke pot too. Drug use doesn't make one "useless to society", drug addiction might interfere with one's ability to hold a job, but simply using drugs doesn't.

If we're wiping out drug users, can we start with people who smoke tobacco and drink alcohol?

While I agree that both tabacco and alcohol are dangerous. I think at this time humanity is not ready to give them up. I do think as generations pass along we will see the use of tabacco go down (as it has already) to almost none in the future.

The big problem I see is this, and I have covered this already. There are no long term studys to tell us what pot may do to the body/mind. We just don't know, we know tabacco screws you up, we know drinking can screw you up. I will stick to my views tell we have proof one way or the other on drug use. I don't think thats asking alot is it, to want proof and study?

USA never.

My points made in my post have yet to be argued or rebuted, all anyone has done is spew "oh your a bad person for thinking like that". Thereby makeing my point quite valid.

No, your point doesn't magically become valid simply because no one has bothered to argue with you. I would venture to say that you'll consider your point valid no matter what.

And it's not that you're a "bad person." Just that your point is stupid, poorly thought out, heavy-handed and shows an ignorance of the topic at hand...

While I agree that both tabacco and alcohol are dangerous. I think at this time humanity is not ready to give them up. I do think as generations pass along we will see the use of tabacco go down (as it has already) to almost none in the future.

The big problem I see is this, and I have covered this already. There are no long term studys to tell us what pot may do to the body/mind. We just don't know, we know tabacco screws you up, we know drinking can screw you up. I will stick to my views tell we have proof one way or the other on drug use. I don't think thats asking alot is it, to want proof and study?

Ok, let me get this straight. Tobacco and alcohol have been proven dangerous. But since humanity isn't ready to give them up, you say "let it be, and it will eventually die out."

Yet, marijuana, which has NOT been proven to be as dangerous as the other two- you recommend a death sentence for using.

And you don't see the logical fallacy and inconsistancy in that opinion?

USA never.
USA soon

Wow, I approve of this move whole heartedly. It would seem that in this instance, that Mexico is a bit more enlightened than the US.