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Ok, before this gets into an iPod-fanboy bashing, let's lay some ground rules:

1. Don't bash someone else's favorite, unless you've actually tried the player.

2. Don't go off topic with some crazy "you're ignorant and i'm right" tangent.

Simple? ok.

Personally, i like the Creative Zen Nano. they're awesome.
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My Parents bought me a 20gb iPod about 2 years ago and I love the thing...I don't have lug all my damn CDs around with me anymore

i think ipod's warranty is hella nice. they'll replace your ipod for just about anything, but you lose all ur songs. :(

My iPod (yea....) but hey I've been an Apple fan for the last 18 years. It just does the whole MP3 player thing so well.

Anything from Samsung.

Creative Nomad Zen Xtra 30GB version.:D

iPod. My family started with Apple back right after the famous 1984 commercial, and we're not about to entrust our technologies to someone else.

To be old school, or simplistic, You Can;t Be my RCA Lyra (256meg internal mem + sd card slot to be more exact) it plays all the music i need at a given time,, easy drag and drop interface to reload both parts of memory (sd card reader // 256 meg flash drive interface,, get 2 nice little drives on my computer when i plug her in) ,, and ya know what,, fitting more music on my player than I can on my car mp3 stereo, is kinda nice. I'd like to own more sd cards (cost prohibitive) so I can swap out cards like I used to on minidisk (3rd gen or so,, could fit around 20 hours of good quality or so on an 80 minute minidisk but that was more than a few years ago so my memory could have messed up) to change styles and content but hell it doesnt take that much time or effort to redo the lists so im happy.
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I like the i-pod mini. It's the perfect shape for me. I only with it had the play and menu buttons of the full sized i-pod.:(

I like my Creative labs Nano. 1 Gig and a built in FM tuner. Plus I can download straight from any output (speaker) jack on any other equipment, no computer required.

really that sounds really cool, but how do you download not a computer? ime confused.

I've been happy with my iPod mini ever since I got it.

To be old school, or simplistic, You Can;t Be my RCA Lyra (256meg internal mem + sd card slot to be more exact)

OH MAN, I used to have 256mb Lyra :D. In fact... I still have it somewhere. I don't have the thing to update it anymore, so it has way-outdated j-pop floating around on it, but haha. That mem card is HUGE. Or at least mine was. Totally got that thing in like... 1999.

really that sounds really cool, but how do you download not a computer? ime confused.I can still download from a computer, but besides the USB it also comes with an imput jack and a cord that plugs from it to any speaker jack on another player (mp3 or CD or whatever). You just select 'record' from the menu and you record whatever the source is playing. Great for snagging that obscure track a friend has or the local radio station is playing. I've even rigged it to record some of my old vinyl.

I absolutely love my Creative Zen Touch 20gb. I don't know how I did without that thing before I bought it. Great battery life, brilliant sound, easy to use and more than adequate storage.

I own the Sony Network Walkman MP3 player. I LOVE this thing. Ive had it for about a year and the quality is fantastic. Sounds much better than iPod. I just wish Sony had more pull in this market, so far they have failed to make a dent due to their SonicStage transfer software which is not very good, but it gets the job done.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_Network_Walkman_NW_HD5_Black/4505-6490_7-31417603.html?tag=pdtl-list

Ive also used the Creative zen and the Toshiba Gigabeat kicks iPods ass.

iPods are for the ignorant masses of idiots who will buy the most popular crap just because everyone "has to have one". There is a lot of good quality alternatives to iPod out there, but most consumers are just too stupid to ask for alternatives. ( Fucking sheep ) :rolleyes: BBAAAAAAAAAAHH:upyours:

iPod. My family started with Apple back right after the famous 1984 commercial, and we're not about to entrust our technologies to someone else.

:rolleyes: Corporate brand loyalty is for retards who don't know any better. Are you on the payroll or something? :gundge:

iPods are for the ignorant masses of idiots who will buy the most popular crap just because everyone "has to have one". There is a lot of good quality alternatives to iPod out there, but most consumers are just too stupid to ask for alternatives. ( Fucking sheep ) :rolleyes: BBAAAAAAAAAAHH:upyours:

iPods aren't that bad, they're just not great.

My brothers both have iPods, and haven't had any complaints. Unless you're an audiophile you won't notice the difference is sound quality, and the interface is pretty nice.

Still, my Zen was cheeper and holds more. :D

My iPod (Video, 30 GB, Black) ought to be delivered any day now, and I'm really looking forward to using it. I just couldn't find another MP3 player that had everything I wanted and needed in it, and I've known a lot of people who were very happy with their iPods.

:rolleyes: Corporate brand loyalty is for retards who don't know any better. Are you on the payroll or something? :gundge:
First post puts it best:

Ok, before this gets into an iPod-fanboy bashing, let's lay some ground rules:

1. Don't bash someone else's favorite, unless you've actually tried the player.

2. Don't go off topic with some crazy "you're ignorant and i'm right" tangent.
Emphasis mine. Thank you, but don't come again unless you're going to be constructive. :)

What is the purpose of 20Gb of storage? x_x; Mine is a 1GB and isn't even full. The last person I talked to downloaded music for the sake of downloading, not because she liked it.

What is the purpose of 20Gb of storage? x_x; Mine is a 1GB and isn't even full. The last person I talked to downloaded music for the sake of downloading, not because she liked it.
Well, not everyone downloads music for the heck of it. I have a good 6 GB of just MP3s on my laptop here, but I've listened to every one of them. I download a lot at a time (Whole albums and such; once I downloaded every Final Fantasy soundtrack released to date) and then delete the files I don't want to listen to ever again, or that are doubles, etc. I just enjoy having a variety of music.

20 GB of storage also means you can store lots of files (Can anyone say, back up pretty much all the necessary stuff on your computer, ladies and gents?) as well as transfer files from one computer to another if you don't have them hooked up on a network. That's a very nice capability, IMHO.

i used to love my 30 gig creative Zen till it died a few weeks ago :(
might have lost all me old music... waaah! (no longer on my HD cos that died last year too :rolleyes: )

i destroy technology.

(gonna get a 2.5inch HD enclosure and see if i can get the files off it)


might get a new one soon - maybe a multimedia player like the Vision:M (http://uk.europe.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=14331) or Vision (bigger and probably cheaper now)

i'm a creative fanboy


What is the purpose of 20Gb of storage? x_x; Mine is a 1GB and isn't even full. The last person I talked to downloaded music for the sake of downloading, not because she liked it.
16 gigs on this laptop here, 80% of which i listen to at different times, and 80% of which i bought, too :)

and then i had 13 gigs extra on me Zen that isn't on this laptop... but i don't listen to that stuff any more (would have liked to though :()

been building a music collection for many years, and i like a wide variety of stuff. hence the need for space

I had a Phillips 4 Gig player last year. It died, the software was feckin awful and it was a nightmare to use as a portable hard drive.

So I went and got an iPod mini 4GB. No worries, nice and easy to use, sounds ok, not brilliant though. But it does everything I want it to, so I'm perfectly happy with it. Mines also very durable (it got droped into Lake Constance and worked fine :D), so no worries about dropping it there.

I've had a play about with Sony's and Creative Zens since then, and they are a better product, but until my ipod dies i'm not going to go get one, the leap in quality isn't massive enough to warrent it.

been building a music collection for many years, and i like a wide variety of stuff. hence the need for space


Yeah, i need space, my 500 odd cds need SPACE which I don't have. Its not a big collection but it takes up a fair bit of room.

What is the purpose of 20Gb of storage? x_x; Mine is a 1GB and isn't even full. The last person I talked to downloaded music for the sake of downloading, not because she liked it.My player currently has about 12 gigs of music in it - entire collections by some bands and artists are what make up the bulk of that. Mostly they're ripped from CDs I already owned before the player, and I have listened to them all at one point or another since putting them on.

My collection is growing, too. I always hear songs and think, "yeah, I must get hold of that one".

My player currently has about 12 gigs of music in it - entire collections by some bands and artists are what make up the bulk of that. Mostly they're ripped from CDs I already owned before the player, and I have listened to them all at one point or another since putting them on.

My collection is growing, too. I always hear songs and think, "yeah, I must get hold of that one".

Yup, I've got 20GB of music on my HDD and I've still got the majority of my music collection on CD's. I've only got a 4GB iPod, but thats ok as I can select the stuff and rotate it easily enough. Once it dies and I need a new one i'll be looking at one with a larger HDD though.

I have about 20gb of music on my computer, it's great :D

My iPod shuffle serves me well though. It's so small, and I can change it whenever I get sick of the stuff on it anyway. :fluffle:

Yeah, i need space, my 500 odd cds need SPACE which I don't have. Its not a big collection but it takes up a fair bit of room.
haha yeah i got round that problem by offloading all the CDs to a friend (in return for a bunch of his Cds)... was great until my HD died, as i said, and now i'm stuck without any way to get my old music back except to go see them.... and i'm not gonna do that (long story)

bah!


though it has meant i've branched out into a lot of new areas with me music as a result of losing nearly all of it (i'm just thankful i managed to keep his hendrix live collection :D)

i have SO decided to get one of these when i next get paid http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000E3U4JU/qid=1146221054/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-6786892-4100627 :D

haha yeah i got round that problem by offloading all the CDs to a friend (in return for a bunch of his Cds)... was great until my HD died, as i said, and now i'm stuck without any way to get my old music back except to go see them.... and i'm not gonna do that (long story)

bah!


though it has meant i've branched out into a lot of new areas with me music as a result of losing nearly all of it (i'm just thankful i managed to keep his hendrix live collection :D)


I'd be screwed if i lost some of mine because a few are recorded from old vinyls that I no longer have access to (Cream - Disraeli Gears is fuckin' minted) via a long an complicated process that I don't want to repeat (the CABLES OH THE HORRID MASS OF CABLES!!!).

i have SO decided to get one of these when i next get paid http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000E3U4JU/qid=1146221054/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-6786892-4100627 :D

Just don't drop it. Same as a Nano, sneeze and it'll scratch.

I'd be screwed if i lost some of mine because a few are recorded from old vinyls that I no longer have access to (Cream - Disraeli Gears is fuckin' minted) via a long an complicated process that I don't want to repeat (the CABLES OH THE HORRID MASS OF CABLES!!!).
haha yeah i can imagine :-S
i've worked as a sound tech at conferences before (and set up a makeshift recording studio at a friend's for a week... that was cool! :D), and know all too well the horrors of cable-spaghetti :p

Eh. I've got an iRiver and an iAudio video player.

Unfortunately, the iAudio is having display problems, and it's not available in America, so I get to try my luck with the Korean tech support...

I must say I like my iPod nano (2GB)

I must say finally making a sensible product Apple has managed to do a good impression on the public opinion. I mean, at least around here, despite Apple's nice design, absolutely no-one even had an Apple laptop before iPods began getting popular. Tabletops, now they're still pretty much useless (although definitely nicer to look at than PCs), but laptops have definitely been getting more popular in the last few years

Heh, one line about what the thread was supposed to be all about and then everything else... go me :P

Creative Zen Micro.

I've only had this one and an old 40 song thing that ran off a AAA battery.

Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra (40GB). The one problem I have with it is that the protective case makes it rather bulky...even if it does mean I can drop it down the stairs with absolutely no damage whatsoever. It's got plenty of space, so I can have a shitload of music on it, which means I can always find something I want to listen to (I had a 4GB mp3 player before, and I frequently found myself thinking 'I don't want to listen to anything on here').

I'm rather pissed off at the moment, as my ext. hard drive is refusing to work...with >30GB of music on it. Any ideas to fix it (apart from percussive maintenance)? It just makes a glitchy whirring noise when I plug it in, rather than the smooth whirr it would normally make.

I don't have an MP3 player, but my new Palm Tungsten E2 plays MP3s and I am working on getting a bigger SD card, so that I can carry more songs with me, I found a 2gig card, which should suffice for a while, I can probably get it in a few weeks, right now I got the measly 128mb and it sucks, it holds about 20 songs, so I have to be way more selective than I want to be.

Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra (40GB). The one problem I have with it is that the protective case makes it rather bulky...even if it does mean I can drop it down the stairs with absolutely no damage whatsoever. It's got plenty of space, so I can have a shitload of music on it, which means I can always find something I want to listen to (I had a 4GB mp3 player before, and I frequently found myself thinking 'I don't want to listen to anything on here').

I'm rather pissed off at the moment, as my ext. hard drive is refusing to work...with >30GB of music on it. Any ideas to fix it (apart from percussive maintenance)? It just makes a glitchy whirring noise when I plug it in, rather than the smooth whirr it would normally make.
Try hitting it gently once or twice, then plug it back in and see. Sometimes things get knocked out of place slightly and a little smack fixes 'em right up. Kinda like some kids, that way. If it doesn't work, hit it a little harder. Just use your discretion and don't break it completely when you lather, rinse, repeat. :D

I hate iPods for these reasons:

1) iTunes is shitty software
2) iTunes is shitty software
3) iTunes is shitty software
4) iTunes is shitty software
5) iTunes is shitty software

I have a creative zen micro and love it.

Try hitting it gently once or twice, then plug it back in and see. Sometimes things get knocked out of place slightly and a little smack fixes 'em right up. Kinda like some kids, that way. If it doesn't work, hit it a little harder. Just use your discretion and don't break it completely when you lather, rinse, repeat. :D
Heh. I've already tried that (and I said don't suggest 'percussive maintenance' ;) ). Maybe I'll just knock it repeatedly harder and harder until it works or falls apart.

I hate iPods for these reasons:

1) iTunes is shitty software
2) iTunes is shitty software
3) iTunes is shitty software
4) iTunes is shitty software
5) iTunes is shitty software

I have a creative zen micro and love it.

Why is is shit precisely?

http://www.shimoken-works.com/image/moto_slvr_l7-thumb.jpg

http://www.shimoken-works.com/image/moto_slvr_l7-thumb.jpg

You appear to have my phone (although i've got a 256mb card in mine :D )

You appear to have my phone (although i've got a 256mb card in mine :D )
Can I borrow that card for.. ever? It's a hawt phone.

Can I borrow that card for.. ever? It's a hawt phone.

Tis a tough little phone too. Mines had its fair share of battering and is still ok.

And NO! the card is mine, esp as i got it very cheap. Along with the SD adaptor for the card :D

Tis a tough little phone too. Mines had its fair share of battering and is still ok.

And NO! the card is mine, esp as i got it very cheap. Along with the SD adaptor for the card :D
Tis.

And give me the card! Now. Please?

Tis.

And give me the card! Now. Please?

I can give you A card (http://www.stevethepro.ukf.net/xmas/cards/merriment.gif)...this one has all my 70's rock ring tones on it dammit!!! (yeah, I know, cliche, but at least its not crappy dance/bangra garage thats heard around where I live...)

I can give you A card (http://www.stevethepro.ukf.net/xmas/cards/merriment.gif)...this one has all my 70's rock ring tones on it dammit!!! (yeah, I know, cliche, but at least its not crappy dance/bangra garage thats heard around where I live...)
Oh my.
*gets sniper smile ready*

Oh my.
*gets sniper smile ready*

LOL.

The price of the micro SD cards is coming down though. I got my 256MB for just over £20.

No idea how much they are in the US (if thats where you're from but given you've got "the plave that snows" as your location, it could be canada...) but i'd guess they are a bit cheaper than here.

i- river rules all!!!

LOL.

The price of the micro SD cards is coming down though. I got my 256MB for just over £20.

No idea how much they are in the US (if thats where you're from but given you've got "the plave that snows" as your location, it could be canada...) but i'd guess they are a bit cheaper than here.
I live in PA.. New England..ish.

:fluffle: (http://froogle.google.com/froogle_cluster?q=micro+SD+card+%2F+slvr&pid=4918632187035555720&oid=6193418711797675747&btnG=Search+Froogle&scoring=mrd&hl=en)

OMG! Click the fluffle.

I live in PA.. New England..ish.

:fluffle: (http://froogle.google.com/froogle_cluster?q=micro+SD+card+%2F+slvr&pid=4918632187035555720&oid=6193418711797675747&btnG=Search+Froogle&scoring=mrd&hl=en)

OMG! Click the fluffle.

See, that would cost like £50 over here.

Yankee gits :p ;) :D

Plus it means you don't have to buy the rip off motorola offical software to put stuff on your phone.

http://www.dukebox.com/photos/iriver-h10-silver.jpg

whoa! that looks so cool.

won't ipod get mad since they took the i.... (i-river)???

whoa! that looks so cool.

won't ipod get mad since they took the i.... (i-river)???

Once they have stopped fighting the Beatles for the ability to print two different sorts of Apple on two different sorts of products...

yea... i think that's pretty ridiculous...