NationStates Jolt Archive


Wii, WTF?

Lazy Otakus
27-04-2006, 19:53
It seems like Nintendo is renaming it's new console from "Revolution" to "Wii". What a.. err, wiierd name...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6148462.html

http://revolution.nintendo.com/

Comments?
Kzord
27-04-2006, 19:57
I think their marketing guy must be a double-agent working for another company.
Teh_pantless_hero
27-04-2006, 19:58
Nintendo must be huffing paint thinner.
Turquoise Days
27-04-2006, 20:00
Yay! Corporate suicide!
Khadgar
27-04-2006, 20:00
Gamespot is evil.
Turquoise Days
27-04-2006, 20:12
Something I found on Galbadia Hotel:

The new Nintendo will come in three models, "Wii," "Not so Wii," and "FRICKIN' HUGE"
Kzord
27-04-2006, 20:18
Surely someone must have said to them "uh... by the way, 'wee' is another word for 'urine'"?
Kamsaki
27-04-2006, 20:22
*Slides down the slippery slope*

Wheeeeee!
Ifreann
27-04-2006, 20:23
Cool, the people at nintendo are all high. This should make for some interesting games.
Luporum
27-04-2006, 20:26
"Hey mom! Roger is bringing his Wii over so we can play with it; we'll hook our Wii sticks together and play all night." :D

Just stop Nintendo, just stop.
Hydesland
27-04-2006, 20:37
Cool, the people at nintendo are all high. This should make for some interesting games.

You may be on to something here, this may be the dawn of some of the greatest games of all time :eek:.
Teh_pantless_hero
27-04-2006, 20:41
Let's go play our Nintendo Wii - like that's not a pornographic title.
"Wii like 'we' as in everyone, we want everyone to play!" - then stop making retarded console names. Call it the fucking Nintendo Revolution if you want it to sell, or hell, call it Nintendo Entertainment System of the Future: NESF! but for God's sake, not "Wii."
Ifreann
27-04-2006, 20:46
You may be on to something here, this may be the dawn of some of the greatest games of all time :eek:.
It won't be long before being stoned is a requirement for beating certain parts of these games.
New Foxxinnia
28-04-2006, 02:37
More like Niitendo Wii.
Dancing Bananland
28-04-2006, 02:41
I was wondering how long it would take for non-videogame forums to start yakking.

See, although a 'tard name, its infectious and memorable. The ol' no PR is bad PR schtick.
Langwell
28-04-2006, 02:42
WTF?

"Johnny, stop playing with your Wii and go to bed."
Johnny to Susie: "Want to come over after school? We can play with my Wii"
Posi
28-04-2006, 02:43
Let's go play our Nintendo Wii - like that's not a pornographic title.
"Wii like 'we' as in everyone, we want everyone to play!" - then stop making retarded console names. Call it the fucking Nintendo Revolution if you want it to sell, or hell, call it Nintendo Entertainment System of the Future: NESF! but for God's sake, not "Wii."
Don't miss this summers blockbuster, staring Jenna Jameson in "Let's Play With Our Wii"....rated PG13
Gaizen
28-04-2006, 02:58
Nintendo has been high ever since the Gamecube's dismal console performance. Can you say "WarioWare"? I think I liked the Revolution better when we knew nothing about it...

Or should I call it whowooo... Wiglotlcso... I... just can't say it...
Sdaeriji
28-04-2006, 03:00
They should just call it the Nintendo "Inevitable Failure" and get it over with faster.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 03:47
Holy crap. I expected this kind of idiot shallow judging of the name at most forums, but not here.

Okay. First off, Revolution was just the name for the project, like the Nintendo Dolphin was the name for the Gamecube project.

Secondly, Nintendo is marketing this as a console for everyone to enjoy. Literally everyone. As such, they need a word to define it, preferably in the language most--all of the users will understand. So, they choose one word in English, "We." They then change the spelling. It's really quite brilliant, actually, when you think about it. The only problem, obviously, is that it is also a slang term in some dialects of English. Of course, when you consider that the peeps naming this were Nintendo executives who all speak Japanese and are not likely to be familiar with the slang terms of English anymore than we would be with Japanese, it made perfect sense.

So...it's actually a good name, 'kay? Perfect in its symbolistic simplicity.
Posi
28-04-2006, 03:49
I stilll think that they should have gone with Ninetendo Video Game Player.
Langwell
28-04-2006, 03:52
So...it's actually a good name, 'kay? Perfect in its symbolistic simplicity.

Yeah, except the majority of the target audience isn't intelligent enough to appreciate "symbolistic simplicity".

What a marketing failure.
Iztatepopotla
28-04-2006, 03:52
So...it's actually a good name, 'kay? Perfect in its symbolistic simplicity.
If it doesn't go well with the market then it's far from perfect, no matter how "symbolic" it is.
Sane Outcasts
28-04-2006, 03:53
Holy crap. I expected this kind of idiot shallow judging of the name at most forums, but not here.

Okay. First off, Revolution was just the name for the project, like the Nintendo Dolphin was the name for the Gamecube project.

Secondly, Nintendo is marketing this as a console for everyone to enjoy. Literally everyone. As such, they need a word to define it, preferably in the language most--all of the users will understand. So, they choose one word in English, "We." They then change the spelling. It's really quite brilliant, actually, when you think about it. The only problem, obviously, is that it is also a slang term in some dialects of English. Of course, when you consider that the peeps naming this were Nintendo executives who all speak Japanese and are not likely to be familiar with the slang terms of English anymore than we would be with Japanese, it made perfect sense.

So...it's actually a good name, 'kay? Perfect in its symbolistic simplicity.
They're giving their console a name that sounds like a slang term for penis and attempting to market the most immature market bracket in the world. It's like throwing gasoline on a fire.

Not that I think it'll hurt sales. It'll still do poorly. The name just makes the inevitable jokes much more predictable.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 03:54
Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. The XBox 360 is doing well despite the odd name.

Posi: Hey, aren't you supposed to change your signature to match with your new title?
Chellis
28-04-2006, 09:08
The apologists think about it too hard. What do you think average joe will be most interested in?

"The playstation 3 bundle will ship with two games now!"

"The XBOX 360 has had a price drop, order now!"

"The Wii will be sold at $300 dollars, buy now!"

Even with imagery, etc, the name Wii just doesn't sound right. You play a playstation, an xbox, even a DS, but you don't play a fucking Wii.
Posi
28-04-2006, 09:11
Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. The XBox 360 is doing well despite the odd name.

Posi: Hey, aren't you supposed to change your signature to match with your new title?
Yeah, I thought Forum Bordem came at 1800. It almost got past me. But I caught it.
Posi
28-04-2006, 09:14
The apologists think about it too hard. What do you think average joe will be most interested in?

"The playstation 3 bundle will ship with two games now!"

"The XBOX 360 has had a price drop, order now!"

"The Wii will be sold at $300 dollars, buy now!"

Even with imagery, etc, the name Wii just doesn't sound right. You play a playstation, an xbox, even a DS, but you don't play a fucking Wii.
Plus it is gonna be damn embarassing when someone tells their boss that they are going home to play on their Wii, and the boss has no idea wtf a Wii is.
Mutant Llama Land
28-04-2006, 09:20
Wii sounds stupid now but what's with Google and Gameboy? WTF? A game for boys? If it catches on, it'll sound normal. Nintendo wants the younger audience and that's what they're going to get from the name.

Although it is strange.

"Mum! Bob won't let me play with our Wii! You said we could share!" :confused:

"Hey! How about a Wii marathon?" :confused:
San haiti
28-04-2006, 09:22
Nintendo has been high ever since the Gamecube's dismal console performance. Can you say "WarioWare"? I think I liked the Revolution better when we knew nothing about it...

Or should I call it whowooo... Wiglotlcso... I... just can't say it...

"Warioware", that wasnt too hard.

What was wrong with it?
Mercury God
28-04-2006, 09:22
and here I opened the thread thinking someone mystyped WWII, lol
Oriadeth
28-04-2006, 09:36
The name has quickly grown on me.
Kanabia
28-04-2006, 11:06
That's Wiik.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 13:27
It seems like Nintendo is renaming it's new console from "Revolution" to "Wii". What a.. err, wiierd name...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6148462.html

http://revolution.nintendo.com/

Comments?
So...many...wee-wee jokes...system overload...ERROR! ERROR!!!
Pythogria
28-04-2006, 13:30
I'd pronounce it Wi-i, but still...

NINTENDO, DON'T DO IT!

Really, terrible name either way...
Jeruselem
28-04-2006, 13:31
WII does make sense like "Working Idiot Interface" :p
Pythogria
28-04-2006, 13:32
WII does make sense like "Working Idiot Interface" :p

Har-dee-har-har. It's a (good, IMO) system that's coming out.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 13:36
I'd pronounce it Wi-i, but still...

Sadly, the official release that I saw does specify that Wii should be pronounced "wee."
Pythogria
28-04-2006, 13:38
Sadly, the official release that I saw does specify that Wii should be pronounced "wee."

The world is ending.
Jeruselem
28-04-2006, 13:39
Har-dee-har-har. It's a (good, IMO) system that's coming out.

It's not the product, but really a silly name can kill a product. At least, it's easy to spell. :)
Pythogria
28-04-2006, 13:40
It's not the product, but really a silly name can kill a product. At least, it's easy to spell. :)

Yeah, bad names can and will kill.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 13:42
Yeah, bad names can and will kill.
Honestly, this really is true. My partner has been a diehard Nintendo fan since the very first system came out, and was 100% planning to buy the new system...but this name is actually making him think twice.

Probably because he knows that if he buys it he will face at least a year of me saying, "Oh, are you playing with your wee-wee again?"
Pythogria
28-04-2006, 13:43
Honestly, this really is true. My partner has been a diehard Nintendo fan since the very first system came out, and was 100% planning to buy the new system...but this name is actually making him think twice.

Probably because he knows that if he buys it he will face at least a year of me saying, "Oh, are you playing with your wee-wee again?"

NO!

For the sake of Nintendo, DON'T DO IT!!!
Skinny87
28-04-2006, 13:50
Holy crap. I expected this kind of idiot shallow judging of the name at most forums, but not here.

Okay. First off, Revolution was just the name for the project, like the Nintendo Dolphin was the name for the Gamecube project.

Secondly, Nintendo is marketing this as a console for everyone to enjoy. Literally everyone. As such, they need a word to define it, preferably in the language most--all of the users will understand. So, they choose one word in English, "We." They then change the spelling. It's really quite brilliant, actually, when you think about it. The only problem, obviously, is that it is also a slang term in some dialects of English. Of course, when you consider that the peeps naming this were Nintendo executives who all speak Japanese and are not likely to be familiar with the slang terms of English anymore than we would be with Japanese, it made perfect sense.

So...it's actually a good name, 'kay? Perfect in its symbolistic simplicity.

You seem to be missing the point that it'll hit sales amongst the teenage crowd, and considering that that's the age most gamers are, I doubt many kids are going to want to go in a store and say "I want to buy a Wee please". It's so immature that it will hit their statistics exactly where they don't need to be; the young, casual gamer.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 13:51
NO!

For the sake of Nintendo, DON'T DO IT!!!
I just don't know how I could help myself. There are soooooooo many puns!!!

"I can't wait until winter, I needa Wii NOW!"

"Hey honey, is it okay if Mark comes over to play with my Wii?"

"Argh, I died again!"
"Aww, are you getting a Wii bit frustrated?"

"We are the nights who say...Wii!"
Jeruselem
28-04-2006, 13:54
Oh I can see this!

Kid 1: I've got a Playstation 3!
Kid 2: Ha, my XBOX 360 pwns your Playstation!
Kid 3: My iMAC pwns all those wussy consoles
Kid 4: I've got a Nintendo Wee
* Everyone laughs at Kid 4 *
Kid 4: What?
Kid 2: You have problem with your wee wee!
GMC Military Arms
28-04-2006, 13:56
and here I opened the thread thinking someone mystyped WWII, lol

It is. The new console will be a true revolution in console technology wherein every single title ever made for it will be a sequel to the well-know documentary videogame Strikers 1945 and there will be much rejoicing.

Seriously, Nintendo went through two horrendously goofy names for the N64 [Ultra 64 sounds like a British codebreaking team and Project Reality like something Megatron would come up with after huffing too much butane], this is probably a passing thing.
Crossing Eques
28-04-2006, 14:00
Holy crap. I expected this kind of idiot shallow judging of the name at most forums, but not here.

You didn't expect there to be idiot shallow judging here?

Tsk tsk. :)
Bottle
28-04-2006, 14:03
It is. The new console will be a true revolution in console technology wherein every single title ever made for it will be a sequel to the well-know documentary videogame Strikers 1945 and there will be much rejoicing.

Seriously, Nintendo went through two horrendously goofy names for the N64 [Ultra 64 sounds like a British codebreaking team and Project Reality like something Megatron would come up with after huffing too much butane], this is probably a passing thing.
Personally, I think Nintendo should play up how their new system is going to be (intentionally) far less 'powerful' than the other next generation systems. They went with the idea of making a less expensive and less super-computerish system, which I am glad they did, and they should give the system a name that will be a sly wink over this decision.

Call it The Titan.
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 14:08
You seem to be missing the point that it'll hit sales amongst the teenage crowd, and considering that that's the age most gamers are, I doubt many kids are going to want to go in a store and say "I want to buy a Wee please". It's so immature that it will hit their statistics exactly where they don't need to be; the young, casual gamer.

Actually, the average gamer is 29 years old.

And considering that Nintendo is not (only) targetting the hardcore gamer crowd, but more casual gamers, families and retro gamers.

EDIT: Correction: 30 years is the average game player age. 37 is the average game buyer age.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php
GMC Military Arms
28-04-2006, 14:09
Call it The Titan.

Wouldn't 'Giant Nuclear Gorilla' fit the idea more and also be a sly wink to Nintendo's original success with Donkey Kong? Plus, I'd buy a console called the Giant Nuclear Gorilla no matter what it did or didn't do on principle.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 14:09
Actually, the average gamer is 29 years old.

Exactly. And the fastest growing demographic is adult women. Do you really think that a 29 year old woman is going to be excited about asking the clerk for a "wee"?
Bottle
28-04-2006, 14:10
Wouldn't 'Giant Nuclear Gorilla' fit the idea more and also be a sly wink to Nintendo's original success with Donkey Kong? Plus, I'd buy a console called the Giant Nuclear Gorilla no matter what it did or didn't do on principle.
Hey, I still think they should have called the Gameboy the "Pocket Goomba."

But then, I have my little flashes of immaturity...:)
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 14:15
Exactly. And the fastest growing demographic is adult women. Do you really think that a 29 year old woman is going to be excited about asking the clerk for a "wee"?

I think most 29 year old woman are mature enough not to be bothered by the name of a console they want to buy.
GMC Military Arms
28-04-2006, 14:19
Exactly. And the fastest growing demographic is adult women. Do you really think that a 29 year old woman is going to be excited about asking the clerk for a "wee"?

How do you think people felt about asking the clerk if they had The Secret of Monkey Island?
Fascist Emirates
28-04-2006, 14:23
Wii god Wii.....

(Why god why)
Bottle
28-04-2006, 14:24
I think most 29 year old woman are mature enough not to be bothered by the name of a console they want to buy.
Sadly, market research does not support this.

To be clear, I am an adult female who would buy the system I wanted regardless of its name. But we know, from hard numbers, that the same product will reach different groups based on what you call it. Many of the women I know who play videogames are already a bit uncomfortable buying videogames and systems and accessories, and the last thing a company should do is contribute to this.

And, hell, if my die-hard Nintendo fan boyfriend is so completely turned off by "Wii," I think that constitutes a problem. If it's too immature a name for HIM, it's probably too immature a name for pretty much everybody! :)
Bottle
28-04-2006, 14:28
How do you think people felt about asking the clerk if they had The Secret of Monkey Island?
According to the numbers, the demographic I am talking about is generally not playing The Secret Of Monkey Island. I am not saying that is because of the game's name, but it's just the general trend.

Look, I'm not one of the people who really cares about the name for my own sake. Naming the system "Wii" will not increase or decrease my likelihood of buying it. Naming it "Pink Fairy Princess Gamebox" wouldn't increase or decrease my likelihood of buying it (though it would increase the likelihood of my putting a vintage NIN sticker on it, just for the yuks).

I'm only worried because I care. I want Nintendo to be a bunch of fucking rich bastards who keep cranking out games so I can flunk out of school. I only give a shit because 50% of the people I know who have heard about this name thing say that, if anything, it decreases how much they would consider buying the system. I have yet to meet a single person who says they are more likely to buy the system named "Wii." I think that sucks.
Jeruselem
28-04-2006, 14:29
I noticed that article said the XBOX 260 isn't selling well in Japan. So the Wii might sell well in Japan, but in English speaking nations? Probably not. They might be thinking too Japanese.
Kinda Sensible people
28-04-2006, 14:32
It's a pity, but only because of the marketing capacity of Revolution.

Shirts with Viva La Revolucion (with a picture of the console where Che's face is normally), "The Revolution is coming... Are YOU ready?", "What will you be after the Revolution". Of course, we would have had to deal with Nintendo Fanboys calling anti-Nintendo people "Counter-Revoluitonary", but that would have been fun.

Wii... Sounds moronic. I wasn't planning on buying a Nintendo product anyway (since they no longer seem interested in selling interesting games on their consoles), but I'm gonna hafta avoid playing it altogether with a name like that. ("Hey, we're gonna go play with Matt's Wii, you wanna come?" :p )

Nintendo struck moronic paydirt, though.
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 14:32
Sadly, market research does not support this.

To be clear, I am an adult female who would buy the system I wanted regardless of its name. But we know, from hard numbers, that the same product will reach different groups based on what you call it. Many of the women I know who play videogames are already a bit uncomfortable buying videogames and systems and accessories, and the last thing a company should do is contribute to this.

And, hell, if my die-hard Nintendo fan boyfriend is so completely turned off by "Wii," I think that constitutes a problem. If it's too immature a name for HIM, it's probably too immature a name for pretty much everybody! :)

True, but that's more because of a bad product image resulting from the name - and not really about being too ashamed to ask the clerk for a "Wii" (that's how your first post sounded).

Personally, I don't think the name is that good (but it could be worse), but I like the Logo and what they do with it (the animation on the Nintendo site).
Potarius
28-04-2006, 14:34
This is truly the greatest console name ever.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 14:34
True, but that's more because of a bad product image resulting from the name - and not really about being too ashamed to ask the clerk for a "Wii" (that's how your first post sounded).

Oh, that was me taking a bit of artistic license. in retrospect, I realize that it probably wasn't entirely clear what I was getting at. D'oh. :P


Personally, I don't think the name is that good (but it could be worse), but I like the Logo and what they do with it (the animation on the Nintendo site).
That's true, it could be worse. I heard a rumor that they were kicking around the idea of calling it The Player, for pity's sake. I mean, come ON...these are the people who build a dynasty out of super-powered plumbers and magic mushrooms! You'd think they could be a bit more creative! :)
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 14:36
That's true, it could be worse.

Indeed. (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/)
Bottle
28-04-2006, 14:38
Indeed. (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/)
Talk about losing the female gamer market.

"Meh, I've already got one."
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 14:40
Talk about losing the female gamer market.

"Meh, I've already got one."

ROFLMAO.

Ouch, that hurts. :p
Saint Ash
28-04-2006, 14:50
Its a poor name, still looks like a cool console though :)
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 14:51
Its a poor name, still looks like a cool console though :)

They haven't even revealed all features yet. I think their next press conference is on May 9th or something.
Fleckenstein
28-04-2006, 15:02
I noticed that article said the XBOX 260 isn't selling well in Japan. So the Wii might sell well in Japan, but in English speaking nations? Probably not. They might be thinking too Japanese.
maybe they are aiming for a japanese market.

is the 260 an error or intentional?
Jeruselem
28-04-2006, 15:03
Just looking at images of the Nintendo Revolution, err , Wii.
Looks like an external DVD burner with extra ports ...
Jeruselem
28-04-2006, 15:04
maybe they are aiming for a japanese market.

is the 260 an error or intentional?

I did mean 360! :confused:
[NS]Cerean
28-04-2006, 15:19
http://blog.wired.com/games/index.blog?entry_id=1467976
the name doesn't matter to me
if you build good games, they will come
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 15:20
I noticed that article said the XBOX 260 isn't selling well in Japan.

That's not true. They've already sold one. (http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2005/12/japanese-xbox-360-launch-massive.html)
Kazus
28-04-2006, 15:21
Wii is M!! upside down.

I dont know what that means but it may have something to do with it.
Khadgar
28-04-2006, 15:23
Eh, I'll buy a Wii. I tend to prefer Nintendo's titles over other consoles anyway. Though must say God of War (PS2), owns.
Waterkeep
28-04-2006, 16:01
I wonder what Nintendo USA did when they got the news?

"Hey Boss, we just heard.. that new console? They're calling it wii."
"Why?"
"No, Wii"
"No.. Why. As in Why didn't they consult with at least one of us first?"
Breitenburg
28-04-2006, 16:25
Nintendo, I love you, but your foolish. Unfortunately, you will fail again. And you'll end making me buy the Wii for the new Zelda game, because I can't resist it. Then my already terrible social standing will be destroyed further.

"Hey, that dude bought a Nintendo Wii!"
"What a fag!"

Damn you whoever made that name...
Kazus
28-04-2006, 16:29
Nintendo, I love you, but your foolish. Unfortunately, you will fail again. And you'll end making me buy the Wii for the new Zelda game, because I can't resist it. Then my already terrible social standing will be destroyed further.

"Hey, that dude bought a Nintendo Wii!"
"What a fag!"

Damn you whoever made that name...

Yeah, screw that fag for buying the better console!

If you honestly think the 360 or the PS3 will be better, something is wrong with you.
Breitenburg
28-04-2006, 16:34
Yeah, screw that fag for buying the better console!

If you honestly think the 360 or the PS3 will be better, something is wrong with you.

I don't think they will be better. I personally think PS3 will suck, and 360 will get better, but I am still a Nintendo fan. It's just that the company isn'y doing anything to make the console situation better. Oh well, at least the DS is doing excellent.
Kazus
28-04-2006, 16:37
I don't think they will be better. I personally think PS3 will suck, and 360 will get better, but I am still a Nintendo fan. It's just that the company isn'y doing anything to make the console situation better. Oh well, at least the DS is doing excellent.

I see past Miyamoto's craziness though. A good console is a good console. I enjoyed the gamecube very much. The PS2 was a good rival, being 100 times better than the PS1. I enjoy Nintendo games more often though. Honestly the only reason i bought a PS2 was Katamari Damashii :). But I liked god of war, rez, gradius 5...
Kanabia
28-04-2006, 16:39
Hmm, i'm thinking of getting one just for the humour value of asking someone if they want to come back to my place and play games with my wii.

That is, if they keep the name.
Kievan-Prussia
28-04-2006, 16:39
Wii? Are they nuts? That just makes me LESS likely to buy the console.

Maybe it's time for Nintendo to bail and just focus on handhelds.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 19:21
Yeah, screw that fag for buying the better console!

If you honestly think the 360 or the PS3 will be better, something is wrong with you.
I think you need to define "better." In terms of raw power, the Wii is going to be the "worst" system. In terms of various hoo-hah and crazy features for the geeks, the Wii is going to be the "worst" system. I don't think that actually makes it worse, I'm just saying that you need to outline your standards for what makes a better or worse system.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 19:24
I don't think they will be better. I personally think PS3 will suck, and 360 will get better, but I am still a Nintendo fan. It's just that the company isn'y doing anything to make the console situation better. Oh well, at least the DS is doing excellent.
The 360 better get better. It's a pile of crap right now :P.

As for the PS3 sucking, I've owned the original X-box, the Gamecube, and the PS2, and the only one that has physically held up has been the PS2. Playstation has been the most consistent for me, and considering how crappy the 360 is (my bud got one, and is now trying to sell it used to get his money back :P) I think I'm gonna at least give Playstation the benefit of the doubt for a while.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 19:30
The 360 better get better. It's a pile of crap right now :P.

As for the PS3 sucking, I've owned the original X-box, the Gamecube, and the PS2, and the only one that has physically held up has been the PS2. Playstation has been the most consistent for me, and considering how crappy the 360 is (my bud got one, and is now trying to sell it used to get his money back :P) I think I'm gonna at least give Playstation the benefit of the doubt for a while.
Not to mention the Playstation line continues to be the only one capable of backwards compatability. Plus, the PS3 will work like a media centre. Once I'm moved out of my parents house I'll certainly use it for that, in any case.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 19:32
Not to mention the Playstation line continues to be the only one capable of backwards compatability. Plus, the PS3 will work like a media centre. Once I'm moved out of my parents house I'll certainly use it for that, in any case.
Yeah, that's another major bonus.

Of course, I think game choice is a big factor. There is not a single game that is exclusive to X-box which I am absolutely set on owning. On the other hand, both Playstation and Nintendo have exclusive games that I would be heartbroken to pass on. That certainly skews my opinion on the "best" game systems.

That, and I hated the X-box controller with a fiery passion.
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 19:33
Not to mention the Playstation line continues to be the only one capable of backwards compatability. Plus, the PS3 will work like a media centre. Once I'm moved out of my parents house I'll certainly use it for that, in any case.

Don't forget that the Revo... the Wii will have the Virtual Console (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Virtual_Console) thingie and will be compatible with the Gamecube.

And even the XBox360 is somewhat backwards compatible. Barbie Horse Adventures runs on both consoles.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 19:36
Don't forget that the Revo... the Wii will have the Virtual Console (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Virtual_Console) thingie and will be compatible with the Gamecube.

And even the XBox360 is somewhat backwards compatible. Barbie Horse Adventures runs on both consoles.
I am aware that a few games are backwards compatable on the 360, but there is a difference between a few and the entire game library. AS for the Wii, while I support that idea, ROMs have been around for quite some time for one's computer.


Of course, I think game choice is a big factor. There is not a single game that is exclusive to X-box which I am absolutely set on owning. On the other hand, both Playstation and Nintendo have exclusive games that I would be heartbroken to pass on. That certainly skews my opinion on the "best" game systems.
Aye. The few games I would be interested in--such as Elder Scrolls IV--are also on the P.C., and that's the kind of thing I'd prefer to play on the P.C. anyway due to mod capability and the like. I plan on owning both a PS3 and a Wii myself.
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 19:38
I am aware that a few games are backwards compatable on the 360, but there is a difference between a few and the entire game library. AS for the Wii, while I support that idea, ROMs have been around for quite some time for one's computer.

True, but not every casual gamer is capable or willing to run emulation software on his PC.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 19:38
Aye. The few games I would be interested in--such as Elder Scrolls IV--are also on the P.C., and that's the kind of thing I'd prefer to play on the P.C. anyway due to mod capability and the like.

Indeed.


I plan on owning both a PS3 and a Wii myself.
The bonus of living with another videogame freak is that I probably won't need to purchase both...we'll just flip a coin to determine who buys which system, and then I'll get to have both a PS3 and Wii around.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 19:39
True, but not every casual gamer is capable or willing to run emulation software on his PC.
Aye, there is that. I concede the point, then.

Bottle: I, unfortunately, do not have that advantage. A pity.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 19:48
Aye, there is that. I concede the point, then.

Well, I think the original point is that the X-box doesn't have any exclusive games that I (or you) particularly want. In that case, you've got nothing to concede. :)

But, as I said before, I'm sure there have to be at least a few X-box-only games that OTHER people really want. And that's perfectly fine...I like having multiple game systems around, to keep the competition hot, so I have no problem with other people going with the X-box.


Bottle: I, unfortunately, do not have that advantage. A pity.
See, these are the things you need to think about when selecting roommates and lovers: which videogame system(s) will they be purchasing? Which games will they be getting for their birthday? Are they a controller-hog, or will they share?

Priorities. It's all about priorities. :)
Kamsaki
28-04-2006, 19:51
True, but not every casual gamer is capable or willing to run emulation software on his PC.
Not capable? The most complex thing you ever need to do is aquire a series of emulated BIOS instructions for a particular model of console. Google and 10 minutes will have you a working emulator for almost any system. Hardly a difficult task for anyone who can use a keyboard.
Lazy Otakus
28-04-2006, 20:00
Not capable? The most complex thing you ever need to do is aquire a series of emulated BIOS instructions for a particular model of console. Google and 10 minutes will have you a working emulator for almost any system. Hardly a difficult task for anyone who can use a keyboard.

You forget that many people are computer illiterates. You wouldn't believe for how many people I do installation stuff and system maintenance.

Also, console gaming is very different from PC gaming. Most PC are located in a workspace. You sit in some kind of office chair at a computer desk - console gamers often prefer the comfortable couch in front of the TV or sit on the carpet.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 20:04
Well, I think the original point is that the X-box doesn't have any exclusive games that I (or you) particularly want. In that case, you've got nothing to concede. :)

But, as I said before, I'm sure there have to be at least a few X-box-only games that OTHER people really want. And that's perfectly fine...I like having multiple game systems around, to keep the competition hot, so I have no problem with other people going with the X-box.


See, these are the things you need to think about when selecting roommates and lovers: which videogame system(s) will they be purchasing? Which games will they be getting for their birthday? Are they a controller-hog, or will they share?

Priorities. It's all about priorities. :)
I suppose. I'm still living with my parents, so I don't exactly have a roommate, though when I do move out I'm hoping my friend Adam will be able to be my roommate.

As for the lovers thing...meh, let's not get into that. I know you were being facetious.
Free Soviets
28-04-2006, 20:05
As such, they need a word to define it, preferably in the language most--all of the users will understand. So, they choose one word in English, "We." They then change the spelling. It's really quite brilliant, actually, when you think about it. The only problem, obviously, is that it is also a slang term in some dialects of English.

one does wonder how the "haha, you said wee" crowd manages to have conversations about groups that they are members of - cause it's not like wii is going to be a more common bit of speech than the first person plural pronoun.

i think wii works. certainly better than completely toyish name 'playstation' or the marketing hack pandering of the 'xbox' - it's to the maxx! xtreme!!1!
Bottle
28-04-2006, 20:08
i think wii works. certainly better than completely toyish name 'playstation' or the marketing hack pandering of the 'xbox' - it's to the maxx! xtreme!!1!
I agree with you about the X-box (especially when it was paired with the neon green and black motif...yikes), but I liked Playstation and Gamecube. They're called what they are: a station at which one plays games, and a cube which plays games. Very straightforward.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 20:20
I agree with you about the X-box (especially when it was paired with the neon green and black motif...yikes), but I liked Playstation and Gamecube. They're called what they are: a station at which one plays games, and a cube which plays games. Very straightforward.
And Wii is the same. While somewhat lame in some respects, it's still genius in its simplicity. And people will get used to it. People get used to everything. The Kingdom Hearts community--as well as myself--hated the name Roxas for the Blonde-Haired-Kid for quite some time, but we all got used to it. And that's just one example, though the one I tend to use the most often as it is the one I remember most easily.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 20:25
And Wii is the same.

Um...????

Playstation: a station for the playing of games. Gamecube: a cube for the playing of games. Wii = An i for the w-ing of i?


While somewhat lame in some respects, it's still genius in its simplicity.

I think it's a stretch to call any of these names "genius."

And people will get used to it. People get used to everything.

The issue around this thread is whether or not this name is a good pick from a marketting standpoint. Right now, it appears that it was, because there are people who report that they are less likely to purchase a "Wii" than they would be to purchase the same system by another name. That would constitute a bad marketting choice. It would be better to pick a name that people don't have to "get used to."


The Kingdom Hearts community--as well as myself--hated the name Roxas for the Blonde-Haired-Kid for quite some time, but we all got used to it. And that's just one example, though the one I tend to use the most often as it is the one I remember most easily.
Sure. But do you know of a single person who said they were less likely to purchase Kingdom Hearts because of the name Roxas? I haven't met a single such person, but (as I already said) about half of the people I've talked to about the Wii have said that the name makes them less inclined to buy the system.
BushForever
28-04-2006, 20:25
Cool, the people at nintendo are all high. This should make for some interesting games.

Wiid.
Free Soviets
28-04-2006, 20:32
but I liked Playstation and Gamecube. They're called what they are: a station at which one plays games, and a cube which plays games. Very straightforward.

yeah, but it's supposed to be a name, not a descriptor. imagine cars called the honda goforwardmachine or the ford fourwheelsandanengine.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 20:33
yeah, but it's supposed to be a name, not a descriptor. imagine cars called the honda goforwardmachine or the ford fourwheelsandanengine.
It's all about the Chevy Nova. :)

But anyhow, why do we call a toaster a toaster, then? Why not "The Gii?" Why call a DVD player a DVD player, rather than "The X-vision 720"?
Potarius
28-04-2006, 20:34
It's all about the Chevy Nova. :)

But anyhow, why do we call a toaster a toaster, then? Why not "The Gii?" Why call a DVD player a DVD player, rather than "The X-vision 720"?

Chevy El Camino, damnit. "The Truck"!

...Hmm. Actually, I'm not quite sure it means "truck".
Bottle
28-04-2006, 20:39
Chevy El Camino, damnit. "The Truck"!

...Hmm. Actually, I'm not quite sure it means "truck".
And hell, I think car names are a horrid example because they ALL suck these days. How about the Pontiac Parisienne? Or the Chevy Lumina? Firenza and Futuramic?

The only good names are the ones that get closest to the intended function of the car. "Rambler" actually gives you some idea of what the damn thing is supposed to do, for instance.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 20:40
Um...????

Playstation: a station for the playing of games. Gamecube: a cube for the playing of games. Wii = An i for the w-ing of i?


I think it's a stretch to call any of these names "genius."

The issue around this thread is whether or not this name is a good pick from a marketting standpoint. Right now, it appears that it was, because there are people who report that they are less likely to purchase a "Wii" than they would be to purchase the same system by another name. That would constitute a bad marketting choice. It would be better to pick a name that people don't have to "get used to."


Sure. But do you know of a single person who said they were less likely to purchase Kingdom Hearts because of the name Roxas? I haven't met a single such person, but (as I already said) about half of the people I've talked to about the Wii have said that the name makes them less inclined to buy the system.
Alright, so it's a bad example. I take back what I said.
Bottle
28-04-2006, 20:43
Alright, so it's a bad example. I take back what I said.
Again, I don't personally much care about the name. It doesn't change how likely I am to buy one. But I want Nintendo to make money, and I think this name may adversely impact their ability to make money. Hence my concern.

Though, to be honest, I still don't understand why "X-box" is such a successful name. It makes me think of all those sports drink commercials that yell at you about being AWESOMELY X-TREME TO THE MAXXXXX!!!! And then I am laughing too hard to get out my wallet, so I could never actually pay for one.
Potarius
28-04-2006, 20:43
And hell, I think car names are a horrid example because they ALL suck these days. How about the Pontiac Parisienne? Or the Chevy Lumina? Firenza and Futuramic?

The only good names are the ones that get closest to the intended function of the car. "Rambler" actually gives you some idea of what the damn thing is supposed to do, for instance.

Agreed. However, I do like the name "Pinto". It just reminds you of how absolutely shitty the car is. :p
Bottle
28-04-2006, 20:44
Agreed. However, I do like the name "Pinto". It just reminds you of how absolutely shitty the car is. :p
I'm sad that I can't buy a Honda Life Dunk. I just want it for the name.
Potarius
28-04-2006, 20:45
I'm sad that I can't buy a Honda Life Dunk. I just want it for the name.

What the fuck...
Bottle
28-04-2006, 20:46
What the fuck...
See? That's pretty much the reaction I would be going for! :)
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 20:48
I'm sad that I can't buy a Honda Life Dunk. I just want it for the name.
...does a car named that actually exist? Because that name is awesome in its hilarity.
Free Soviets
28-04-2006, 20:50
But anyhow, why do we call a toaster a toaster, then? Why not "The Gii?" Why call a DVD player a DVD player, rather than "The X-vision 720"?

cause the people that make toasters and dvd players don't feel the need to individualize them like that. we treat them as essentially interchangeable, and they give them silly product number names (my new dvd player is the toshiba sd-4980, for example).

though if a company like apple started making toasters...
Free Soviets
28-04-2006, 20:53
Though, to be honest, I still don't understand why "X-box" is such a successful name. It makes me think of all those sports drink commercials that yell at you about being AWESOMELY X-TREME TO THE MAXXXXX!!!! And then I am laughing too hard to get out my wallet, so I could never actually pay for one.

hey, it's the only video game system you can play while snowboarding on your way to go bungie jumping
The Eastern Hemisphere
05-05-2006, 04:30
First off, I apologize for my lateness, now to the issue at hand.....

WTF is Nintendo thinking?! The Revolution was perfect! Why did they have to change it to something so...so...I don't know, words can't describe this name. The execs at Nintendo must've been on some genetically enhanced super crack in order to have approved of this name change. It looks like Sony will dominant once again.....