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STOP THE CRUELTY! SIGN HERE!


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Tell Ms McCartney to get a real name and i'll consider it.

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Show me awesome clips in a free (as in fredom) format and I shall consider arguing with you.

Show me awesome clips in a free (as in fredom) format and I shall consider arguing with you.
What do you mean? Is it a wrong format?

I hate double barreled names and i have dial up.

What do you mean? Is it a wrong format?
Pointlessly being a jackass.

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Unfortunately, you will find many on these forums have somehow confused opposition to animal cruelty with an affront to their manhood.

Perpare to hear a lot of dick-waving about how insensitive one can be.

Unfortunately, you will find many on these forums have somehow confused opposition to animal cruelty with an affront to their manhood.

Perpare to hear a lot of dick-waving about how insensitive one can be.

One time, at Band Kampf, I saw this little kitty. So I took the obvious course of action and started stomping on its head.:cool:

One time, at Band Kampf, I saw this little kitty. So I took the obvious course of action and started stomping on its head.:cool:
So uncivilized...

I watched it.

Whats the point. PETA done it. They fake most of their videos

Kill it Kill it now!

Unfortunately, you will find many on these forums have somehow confused opposition to animal cruelty with an affront to their manhood.

Perpare to hear a lot of dick-waving about how insensitive one can be.

I'd never thought of it quite in those terms, but that's probably spot-on. Sadly, you're right.

There are so many more noble causes out there, than trying to stop the importation of dog and cat fur.

I mean, come on! Dog and cat fur?!
Maybe in Eastern Europe, but I doubt anyone would wear dog fur in Northern or Western Europe.

Frankly, I thought the petition was a joke at first.

So uncivilized...
Hey! The Swiss (and the French, too) are the most civilized people on Earth.

I watched it.

Whats the point. PETA done it. They fake most of their videos

Yeah, those racoons were actually midgets in little costumes. :rolleyes:

Hey! The Swiss (and the French, too) are the most civilized people on Earth.
Oh yeah. Now when I think about it you're right. Stomping on a kitty's head is a very civilized thing to do.

There are so many more noble causes out there, than trying to stop the importation of dog and cat fur.


An inane argument. Supporting one cause does not prevent you from supporting others.


I mean, come on! Dog and cat fur?!
Maybe in Eastern Europe, but I doubt anyone would wear dog fur in Northern or Western Europe.


Yes, they do. (Or it would not be imported, d'uh!) People simply don't bother (or aren't interested) to find out where the fur comes from. Not that it makes it any less cruel or barbaric if it comes from another animal.

Yeah, those racoons were actually midgets in little costumes. :rolleyes:
My cousin Eddy is a PETA midget. He says the trap is just added on in the editting room.

Yeah, those racoons were actually midgets in little costumes. :rolleyes:

PETM doesn't have the same ring though, does it?

does the fur grow back? is that why they didn't kill them? would you have a problem with this if the animals were killed first, so they didn't experience any pain...I'm sure having ones fur ripped off would be rather painful, although these nimals seemed to be pretty much 'anesthetised' first.

Really, though, the solution is not to ban fur, but to learn how to grow it in a petri dish instead of on the back of an animal. (btw, I am serious about this, there is research already happening on how to grow meat in the lab, rather than having to get it from an animal)

I adore animals. I work in animal rescue, maintain a feral cat colony, have six cats inside the house, train my dog to be a therapy dog, and am in the process of adopting a paralysed bulldog.

I do not, however, adore PETA. They are radicalism at its worse. Passing out comics to children entitled "Your Mommy Kills Animals"? Euthanising thousands of adoptable animals and dumping their bodies into dumpsters? In fact, did you know that PETA has a stance of not allowing animals as pets, and that includes seeing-eye dogs? Or even more radically, did you know that they donate thousands of dollars to the Earth Liberation Front, which engages in violent acts like burning down laboratories? The founder of PETA has even said "if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it."

Screw PETA. Why don't you go look at the photographs of police burying the bodies of the animals that PETA killed (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial2.cfm). Is that not enough for you? Then look at some of the dead puppies and kittens. (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaVictims.cfm)

Yeah, those racoons were actually midgets in little costumes. :rolleyes:
No, Peta has been busted on many occasions for animal cruelty. They actually do things like that and tape them for the 'greater good'. Realistically, no-one would try to skin a live animal. Why would you?! It only serves to make the job harder. Furthermore, if this actually was a fur farm, do you think the boss would be happy paying his workers to mess around and waste time (in such a cruel way, as well)?

PETA should be shut down and replaced with an animal rights group that isn't simultaneously a (albeit mild) terror organisation. Like the RSPCA.

does the fur grow back? is that why they didn't kill them? would you have a problem with this if the animals were killed first, so they didn't experience any pain...I'm sure having ones fur ripped off would be rather painful, although these nimals seemed to be pretty much 'anesthetised' first.
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Hahaha, he wasn't racoon shearing! He 'skinned' the animal mate, as in actually removed the skin from it's body. Painful? I would imagine so. Though I am not sure whether we have nerves underneath the skin. Either way, the process would be most painful.

PETA, the Michael Moore of animal groups. :mad: PETA's a good concept (after all, what normal person wouldn't want animals treated humanely?), but they take it WAY too far (like the above mentioned comic books).

I think PETA should stand for People Eating Tasty Animals.

does the fur grow back? is that why they didn't kill them? would you have a problem with this if the animals were killed first, so they didn't experience any pain...I'm sure having ones fur ripped off would be rather painful, although these nimals seemed to be pretty much 'anesthetised' first.

Really, though, the solution is not to ban fur, but to learn how to grow it in a petri dish instead of on the back of an animal. (btw, I am serious about this, there is research already happening on how to grow meat in the lab, rather than having to get it from an animal)

We can. We have synthetic fur and I defy anybody to tell the difference.

But there are actually dumbasses with large piles of money and brainless young women to impress that would rather pay more money for real fur than the equivalent synthetic fur.

Oh, and 'Does it grow back'? Is that a joke?!?

I've got no problem with treating animals humanely, but I don't see anything wrong in the slightest for using animals for fur, food, entertainment, whatever. We've done it our entire evolutionary history.

Truthfully, if I ever do wear fur, I won't care if it came from a dog, cat, or any other animal, or even if it was grown in a lab somehow.

We humans are just like any other animal--in order for me to survive, another organism must perish.

does the fur grow back? is that why they didn't kill them? would you have a problem with this if the animals were killed first, so they didn't experience any pain...I'm sure having ones fur ripped off would be rather painful, although these nimals seemed to be pretty much 'anesthetised' first.

PETA chooses select shots for their propaganda videos. This is why it appears that the animals weren't killed. The vast majority of animals at slaughter houses and fur farms are killed right off the bat, with a single blow to the head. Blows to the head are considered human ways to kill animals, according to the US park and game anyway.

So say PETA runs 12 hours of footage at a fur farm. They go through, find the most cruel and emotional looking clips, and make it into this little three or four minute long video. These include the shots of animals that appear to still be alive. You don't get to see the fact that the vast majority of animals in slaughter houses and fur farms are treated and killed in humane ways.

Nor do they tell you, hey, the animals aren't really alive. These are reflex responses that occur after the animals are dead/unconscious.

Yeah, I'm really gonna click a link with "peta" in the name, seeing as how I was born yesterday and don't know that they are full of crap.

There are so many more noble causes out there, than trying to stop the importation of dog and cat fur.

I mean, come on! Dog and cat fur?!
Maybe in Eastern Europe, but I doubt anyone would wear dog fur in Northern or Western Europe.

Frankly, I thought the petition was a joke at first.
Its mainly used for a cheap source of hides for soft leather.Most of it comes from turkey. Its wasteful as the carcases are usefull for nothing but glue.On a side note some of the best traditional drum skins in the celtic world are made from greyhound skin..But the dogs are not killed for the purpose but have died from natural causes.

yeah PETA is messed up, but then again so is wearing fur. If it was actually to keep you warm i wouldnt be so opposed, but i almost always see it used in decoration which is just pathetic

yeah PETA is messed up, but then again so is wearing fur. If it was actually to keep you warm i wouldnt be so opposed, but i almost always see it used in decoration which is just pathetic

Not many people can pull off wearing fur. I say, if you can wear fur and make it look good, go for it. :D

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