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Ok i will set the scene here,
I was walking down a corridor in school yesterday with my girlfriend and this git from the year below me slapped me while walking past. Now i was rather angry so gave my girlfriend my bag and jacket and went after this guy, i caught him and slapped him back, while he was in a headlock... and after i had kind of thumped him in the ribs.

I stopped there after i got the retribution of the slap back, and just walked away.

Was i in the right to go after this guy that hit me and hit him back so as to show him it is not right what he did, or should i of ignored it and let him hit people till his arms fall off?

Please give opinions on whether i was in the right or the wrong, and specify why, i want to know if i over reacted.

Poll on way.

I'd probably have SAID something to him, a-la: "Dude, what the fuck?" and then elaborated as I saw fit.

Hmm, personally, i would have talked to the guy first.
If he was just being a w*****, then he probably deserved it, tho I doubt anyone in authority would have taken your part...

If neither of you got hurt then it really doesn't matter. If you smack someone it's safe to assume you'll be hit back. But, if you hit someone and walk off, they really can't claim it as self defence, so doing anything more then a bit of a roughing up is definately going overboard... make sense?

Just adding in here he spammed (open handed slap on forehead) me! hard that is why i didn't bother with many words except "come back here you little ****!"... i know i was rather angry.

If neither of you got hurt then it really doesn't matter. If you smack someone it's safe to assume you'll be hit back. But, if you hit someone and walk off, they really can't claim it as self defence, so doing anything more then a bit of a roughing up is definately going overboard... make sense?
Well i didn't rough him up too much, thing is i wont know any consequences till well later today, if he has run off to a teacher or the police for a "assualt" charge then i will have to make my case today. :(

Ok i will set the scene here,
I was walking down a corridor in school yesterday with my girlfriend and this git from the year below me slapped me while walking past. Now i was rather angry so gave my girlfriend my bag and jacket and went after this guy, i caught him and slapped him back, while he was in a headlock... and after i had kind of thumped him in the ribs.

I stopped there after i got the retribution of the slap back, and just walked away.

Was i in the right to go after this guy that hit me and hit him back so as to show him it is not right what he did, or should i of ignored it and let him hit people till his arms fall off?

Please give opinions on whether i was in the right or the wrong, and specify why, i want to know if i over reacted.

Poll on way.
You didn't go far enough, you should have rammed his head through a wall.

You didn't go far enough, you should have rammed his head through a wall.


Hehe :p

The fact of the matter is that even though his behaviour was rather psycho YOU can get into a lot of trouble by retaliating. The temporary sting of a slap is nothing compared to being brought up on an assault charge or being kicked out of school. If he had actually injured you, drawn blood or given you a noticable bruise then you would have had something to go to the authorites with. But since there was no real damage and no one in authority really cares if a student was slapped there wasn't much you could do that would keep YOU out of trouble except maybe tell him off. YOUR future is more important than any temporary satisfaction you might get from whipping someone's arse, no matter how much you might think you'd enjoy it or how much you think it would be justified.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

If I was slapped, I'd probably kick the shit out of him, to each their own, though.

Personally, I think you were in the right.

Hehe :p
I might retract that statement i doubt Scotland has the money to build or fix another mud and thatch wall...

Man if somebody phisicaly attacks you then it is right and proper to defend yourself. You done the right thing. Now of course your only worry is, is he gonna say fair cop guv and leave you alone, or will you have to watch out for him and his mates around town?

Well done on the zero tolerance attitude. You show em who's boss.:fluffle:

It was uncalled for for him to do that to you, the least you could do was to return the favour.

Man if somebody physically attacks you then it is right and proper to defend yourself.It wasn't exactly defending though, it was retaliating. Technically you can't defend after someone has stopped attacking you, only during.

A slap? Doesn't even seem worth the effort to care. Unless of course you got backhanded hard while he was wearing a giant ring or something.

A slap? Doesn't even seem worth the effort to care. Well, if you let one person get away with it, everyone might want a go. Next thing you know you're slapped silly walking through the hallway..

A slap? Doesn't even seem worth the effort to care. Unless of course you got backhanded hard while he was wearing a giant ring or something.
It wasn't worth the/a chase but i wouldn't blame him for slapping him.
Who the hell slaps any way?
Sah i say sah i demand satisfaction!

its a surprisingly complex question. on the one hand you have the axiom that 'an eye for an eye and the whole world ends up blind', which is absolutley true. on the other hand this was hardly anything big and the guy probably did need to be taught a lesson in some way - randomly slapping people is not cool (happy slapping? pfft :rolleyes: )

personally i think it'd have been best to corner him or get him in a headlock and ask him why the fuck he did it or something - try and make him see how stupid it is to go randomly slapping people, in the hope that he'll also realise he's a prat and stop. that said, doing that when you're all angry and surprised is hard to remember :p

its a surprisingly complex question. on the one hand you have the idium that 'an eye for an eye and the whole world ends up blind', which is absolutley true. on the other hand this was hardly anything big and the guy probably did need to be taught a lesson in some way - randomly slapping people is not cool (happy slapping? pfft :rolleyes: )

personally i think it'd have been best to corner him or get him in a headlock and ask him why the fuck he did it or something - try and make him see how stupid it is to go randomly slapping people, in the hope that he'll also realise he's a prat and stop. that said, doing that when you're all angry and surprised is hard to remember :p
Periphiral vision is over-rated.

I'm of the mind that to slap a guy is a grave insult. As such, throw down.

Periphiral vision is over-rated.

Lies!

What do you mean by slap? If you mean a full-on face-palm then tripping him up and having him fall face first onto the ground would be a suitable retort. Otherwise, I'd just shrug it off.

I'm of the mind that to slap a guy is a grave insult. As such, throw down.

It is worse, so much worse, getting bitch slapped then getting punched. Tis a matter of honour!

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.



Volience is the last refuge of the incompetent.


Those two wise guys summarize well why, IMHO, you were wrong.

Pacifists are funny. Wanna know how to convert them? Hit 'em, then ask if they're still right. If they say they are, hit 'em again.

Repeat as needed.

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
I'd have thought the first.. Maybe it's the first refuge of the competent then..
Or perhaps it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I probably would have done the same thing, but I would have been more covert about it. I doubt anyone saw him slap you, but everyone saw you charge him, grab hold of him, bitch slap him, and send him packing like a little whiny girl (no offense to girls here that do not partake in whining). Next time, get a friend or two and get a hold of him when no one is looking and put him in a gym locker. He'll learn the lesson best if done on a Friday afternoon just after final classes for the day. ;)

A) Should HAVE. Not should OF. Should HAVE. (One of my biggest pet peeves, and you've abused it.)

B) An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind. Gandhi had something going, there. It's never right to hit someone because they hit you. You should have walked away and maybe kicked a tree. No, wait, not kicked a tree. The tree didn't even DO anything to you, and kicking it could take off the bark which will slowly kill it if enough comes off. New plan: you should have walked away and smashed up some pillows or something when you got home, or taken a piece of paper and torn it up into as many pieces as small as you could manage. The latter is what I do when I get angry, and it helps a lot.

You should have walked away and maybe kicked a tree. No, wait, not kicked a tree. The tree didn't even DO anything to you, and kicking it could take off the bark which will slowly kill it if enough comes off. New plan: you should have walked away and smashed up some pillows or something when you got home, or taken a piece of paper and torn it up into as many pieces as small as you could manage. The latter is what I do when I get angry, and it helps a lot.What? Those pillows and the paper didn't do anything either!!
Just because they're inanimate objects doesn't mean they deserve abuse :rolleyes:
Besides, paper is made from trees, the more paper you tear to pieces for no reason, the more trees have to die to support that habit.

What? Those pillows and the paper didn't do anything either!!
Just because they're inanimate objects doesn't mean they deserve abuse :rolleyes:
Besides, paper is made from trees, the more paper you tear to pieces for no reason, the more trees have to die to support that habit.
They're inanimate and no longer living, therefore they won't die if you abuse them. And if you then put the paper bits in the recycling bin, no harm done! It gets reused. (And don't get started on how little paper is actually recycled. Not this early in the morning, and not any other time of day, either.)

Well, if you think slapping a guy is wrong, and you slapped a guy, then yes, what you did was wrong. It contradicts your own view on the slapping bit. Should you have done nothing? No, but slapping wasn't the best of choices. You could have greatly expressed your grievence with whatshisface, or taken the opportunity to report him to higher authority figures.

Ok i will set the scene here,
I was walking down a corridor in school yesterday with my girlfriend and this git from the year below me slapped me while walking past. Now i was rather angry so gave my girlfriend my bag and jacket and went after this guy, i caught him and slapped him back, while he was in a headlock... and after i had kind of thumped him in the ribs.

I stopped there after i got the retribution of the slap back, and just walked away.

Was i in the right to go after this guy that hit me and hit him back so as to show him it is not right what he did, or should i of ignored it and let him hit people till his arms fall off?

Please give opinions on whether i was in the right or the wrong, and specify why, i want to know if i over reacted.

Poll on way.

Just a slap? All you would've accomplished most likely was to get your own ass in trouble. Had he done it again, or actually made a serious effort to hurt you, then you can hit back. Always try to keep your response reasonable though, from what it sounds like, you just whaled on this guy for something you easily could've just let go.

So, back to the question of if you were in the right? Nope, and neither was he.

They're inanimate and no longer living, therefore they won't die if you abuse them. And if you then put the paper bits in the recycling bin, no harm done! It gets reused. (And don't get started on how little paper is actually recycled. Not this early in the morning, and not any other time of day, either.)

Recycling paper takes more energy and cost then just making new paper.

Recycling paper takes more energy and cost then just making new paper.
Perhaps I should have phrased my last comment as the following:

Don't give me any of that anti-recycling crap.

Seriously, it's worth a few extra pennies to save all those beautiful trees that will take 50 years or more to replace, and those will only be cut down for more paper anyway. It's a ridiculously flawed cycle. Recycling is worth it. Now how about we stay ON TOPIC here, and you just find flaws with my methods, not with recycling, eh?

Who the fuck just randomly walks up to a person and hits them? If I just slapped the next guy I walked by, I'd fully expect to get my ass beat. I guess the fact that we're having a discussion about whether it's right to hit someone back when they hit you is the reason that people like this kid would just slap someone randomly to begin with.

All you did was slap him back and headlock him? After he slapped you in front of you girl?

Shit, I've knocked teeth out for less.

Perhaps I should have phrased my last comment as the following:

Don't give me any of that anti-recycling crap.

Seriously, it's worth a few extra pennies to save all those beautiful trees that will take 50 years or more to replace, and those will only be cut down for more paper anyway. It's a ridiculously flawed cycle. Recycling is worth it. Now how about we stay ON TOPIC here, and you just find flaws with my methods, not with recycling, eh?

I'm not saying "don't recycle". I'm just pointing out that simply recycling it is still wasteful. So yes, I have found a flaw in your method. Your logic is flawed. Destroying paper for no reason isn't doing anyone any good.

I'm not saying "don't recycle". I'm just pointing out that simply recycling it is still wasteful. So yes, I have found a flaw in your method. Your logic is flawed. Destroying paper for no reason isn't doing anyone any good.
It's not for no reason, it's to get out frustration and anger. And no, it's not a flaw in my method, it's a flaw in recycling. Take it up with your recycling plant, not with me. On topic, please.

It's not for no reason, it's to get out frustration and anger. And no, it's not a flaw in my method, it's a flaw in recycling. Take it up with your recycling plant, not with me. On topic, please.

:rolleyes:

It's not a matter of the plant process, it's a matter of physics. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. There is no FREE energy, and you're still wasting paper.

So next time stomp on the ground. You get exercise and you don't kill any trees, or shred any perfectly good paper, or burn any additional fossil fuels.

:rolleyes:

It's not a matter of the plant process, it's a matter of physics. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. There is no FREE energy, and you're still wasting paper.

So next time stomp on the ground. You get exercise and you don't kill any trees, or shred any perfectly good paper, or burn any additional fossil fuels.
It's worth a few extra pennies to get out your anger, so please feel free to shut up or keep to the topic.

I think a punching bag would be better to vent frustration. It is meant to be punch, and in fact, if personified, would feel neglected if not punched. Things deserve to fullfill their purpose and not be misused. Pillows should be slept on, paper written (printed) on, and punching bags punched.
:p

I think a punching bag would be better to vent frustration. It is meant to be punch, and in fact, if personified, would feel neglected if not punched. Things deserve to fullfill their purpose and not be misused. Pillows should be slept on, paper written (printed) on, and punching bags punched.
:p
Hitting people feels better.
Also, I don't have a punching bag.

or keep to the topic.Ooh right. I always forget that..

The thing that I'd really want to know is why in blazes someone would slap someone out of the blue. I'd probably be too surprised to retaliate..

Ooh right. I always forget that..

The thing that I'd really want to know is why in blazes someone would slap someone out of the blue. I'd probably be too surprised to retaliate..
That happened to me. In gym, I was tying my shoe, and this dumbass slapped my as he passed on the track. I had to chase him for a quarter-mile before I could get him back.

It's worth a few extra pennies to get out your anger, so please feel free to shut up or keep to the topic.

Now I just have to know, whose pennies are they? Are they yours? Are you the kind of person that would try to jump their bike in the street, break their arm on the pavement then expect someone else to pay for the casting?

Now stop replying with your silly logical fallacies and stay on topic! Rawr!

Cheese penguins, if someone wrongs you, there are a number of options. You can retaliate which usually ends up with the original "victim" in trouble because their isn't witness to the initial assault; you can simply let it go, which may not be the bravest thing, but if no one saw no one cares anyway, you can get your revenge in a more subtle, but piercing way (figuratively), later on. Like the next time you hear him talking about something, wait for him to leave himself open for a rightous burn, you can make a fool of him in front of everyone. The locker treatment should probably be reserved for a more serious act, like if he were to steal your homework. School pranks and tiffs can be fun and educational, just don't let them get too far out of hand.

*edited the piercing part to communicate my thought better.

A "righteous burn" for a physical attack?

Middle school taught me one thing: violence begets violence. If you get hit, you have to hit back, or you will become a victim.

All you did was slap him back and headlock him? After he slapped you in front of you girl?

Shit, I've knocked teeth out for less.
I took him away from my girl... and slapped him after a shot or two in the ribs... i went easy on him though as he is younger than me.

While it was morally wrong to seek revenge and hit him back which makes one no better than the idiot it is understandable as long as you don't send him to the hospital or scar him or whatever.
He was literally asking for trouble (unprovoced I believe?) so I'd say it was okay to answer his call.

A slap? Doesn't even seem worth the effort to care. Unless of course you got backhanded hard while he was wearing a giant ring or something.

Teach him a lesson while the price is small. If you let people get away with this kind of crap, you might have to put him in the hospital next time. You did the twit a favor...

While it was morally wrong to seek revenge and hit him back which makes one no better than the idiot it is understandable as long as you don't send him to the hospital or scar him or whatever.
He was literally asking for trouble (unprovoced I believe?) so I'd say it was okay to answer his call.
100% unprovoced!! that i swear i did nothing to cause it.