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Anyone have any good tales that defy explanation?

I'll share a couple of mine:


When I moved in with my mom in So. Cal. for 7th grade, she told me that they had experienced a lot of strange things at that house that they decided was the doings of a ghost which they named Claurice. I've had ghostly experiences before (I actually went to places where they supposedly had been seen just to experience them) so I wasn't scared or worried. Well after about a year of living there I finally experienced something. What happened was when I would lie down at night and place my right ear against the pillow, I would hear a woman whispering my name over and over and over again until I fell asleep. This went on for the duration of the 3 years that I lived there. At first it was a bit unnerving but it wasn't long before I liked it as it soothed me off to sleep.

There there was a house in Los Angeles, where I lived with a couple of friends. Lots of strange things happened there, like things getting thrown across the room, electronic devices like the t.v. doing strange things, pictures taken there would sometimes have strange apparitions in them and so forth. There was one bedroom in particular where pretty much everyone that ventured in there felt an intense negative energy. Well the freakiest thing that happened to me there went like this: It was a long walk down the the street from the house because we were on a giant lot with a big garden, so one night I accompanied my roomate as she walked down to a car waiting to deliver something to her. As I waited I clearly saw a shadow run up the sidewalk towards the house so as my roomate was ready to go back to the house I told her what I saw and she screamed and ran toward the house and I was right behind her. Seconds before she reached the door the door knob and door started shaking violently as if someone on the inside was desperately tryign to get out. It stopped and immediately my roomate grabbed the handle and went in and noone was on the other side (we had another roomate so we thought it was him - it wasn't).

Once I had a dream/vision where I woke up to the alarm radio and there was a really interesting talk radio show on that I had never heard before, speaking of the benefits of meditation. As I was listening to this show (in my dream), I woke up to the alarm radio where the exact same show was on that I was listening to in my dream - WORD FOR WORD!

Once I was kinda drifting off to sleep when I had this strong vision in my head that I was going to run into some trouble on a certain part of a certain freeway. I even tried to interact with the vision and invisioned myself swurving into the emergency lane to avoid the problem but then my vision showed that there was going to be an obstruction right there. SO the next day while on that freeway and coming up to that part there was a truck directly in front of me that had HUGE lettering on the back that said "Slow Down", and I remembered my vision. I not only slowed down, I also changed to a lane a bit further over. When the exact part of the freeway came up I saw an obstruction in the emergency lane where I would have swurved, then all of a sudden a giant metal ball the size of a soccer ball was pinballing off of car tires and coming straight at me, I just aimed my care to where the ball would go directly under the center of my car as I could not change lanes because there were cars on either side of me. IT clanged along the bottom of my car and that was it. Still I think I might be related to Nostradamus :P


That is just a small sampling of the wierd shit I have experienced in my life. I've seen UFO's. I've communicated psychically with a friend at about 80% accuracy with a test we did with each other. I've had more encounters with ghosts.

Do you think that people that see or experience stuff like this only see it because they are open to it or what?

That's some messed up stuff.

I already told my ghost stories a few times on here, but the short versions

1 I grew up in a house where a guy had shot himself in the head in my bedroom, creepy sounds, weird stuff, and a huge blood stain under my bed.

2 I rented a haunted apartment, at least 3 other people saw the ghost, 2 of them before I even said anything about him

I saw a ufo (meaning I have no clue what it was) when I was 9, but it could have been like a glow in the dark weather balloon that had jet power or something, not a clue.

I get morning sickness whenever someone I know is newly pregnant before I find out, after I find out it goes away.

My husband and I either know eachother way too well, or we can communicate through ESP. I would guess the former.

I have dreams about storms, earthquakes and such before they happen, but they are vague and I write them down, then it's all too easy to trace them back when something actually happens, so that doesn't really count I guess.

I have been told I am an empath, but really I am just good at reading people

I used to be a phone psychic.

I have weird dreams that make sense to people who are in them, but not to me.

oh, I think that's all.

*my husband had a dream about me when he was like 9, and I had a dream about him when I was about 12, but we didn't meet until much later, although the way we met is kinda weird and kismet like too.....

A few years back I was hiking up in a forest with some of my friends. I'm an outdoorsman and enjoy doing those things. I was on many hikes and it started out just like all the rest. We had fun and were laughing most of the way. It was getting dark and we (stupidly) decided not to set up camp yet. Well, it got dark and I was seperated from the rest of them. One of the big rules is to stay still and not move around so that you can be found, I didn't follow it.

I hiked along a ridge side, trying to find them. I had my flashlight but didn't use it to conserve batteries. I was walking, my feet were cracking the twigs and leaves. Until I stepped on something brittle and it cracked. I turned on my flashlight and saw a deer skull. Nothing out of the ordinary. I shinned it around and saw even more bones, and more and more. Of various animals, some of them still had flesh on them, one deer was fresh. There was stuff hanging from the trees, string with trinkets on them (like the blair witch) only they were other stuff. I heard noises in the woods, woopings and twigs snapping. I felt like I was being watched. I started shaking and took out my knife, trying to get ready for whatever ws out there. All of a sudden I heard something come crashing through the branches and brush, I ran like the hounds of hell were behind me!

I ran for what seemed like an eternity, I fell down a hill and got busted up a little. For a while I could hear twigs snapping behind me and rocks comeing down the hill. After an hour long ordeal I found my friends, I was bruised, scared, sweaty. They said I looked like I saw a monster. I don't know what was out there.

I've had a boring life with respect to the suprenatural and have nothing to contribute to this thread but WTF? and +1

oh one time I was sitting on the beach with my gf facing me, legs straddling me (shush - we were clothed) and our heads on each others shoulders as we just kinda hugged (awwww how sweet)... well, all of a sudden I hear a womans voice whisper "hey" sorta forcfully in my ear that was facing my gf. It didnt sound like my gf's voice so I asked her if she said it and she was going to ask the same of me.

Speaking of my gf (now wife as of last weekend), she had a dream when she was about 6 years old that some men with big heads and no clothes (that she says were like Grey aliens now that she looks back at her memory) had taken her on like a roller coaster ride and injected something into her arm. IN the very spot she has a mark on her arm and she says it feels wierd and uncomfortable to touch it.

Congratulations on the wedding!

oh one time I was sitting on the beach with my gf facing me, legs straddling me (shush - we were clothed) and our heads on each others shoulders as we just kinda hugged (awwww how sweet)... well, all of a sudden I hear a womans voice whisper "hey" sorta forcfully. It didnt sound like my gf's voice so I asked her if she said it and she was going to ask the same of me.
Guess one of the ghosts was conservative. Serves ya right for gettin it on on the beach ;)

Oh and congrats on gettin married!

Congradulations on the wedding!


Thanks! Good story and congrats on getting away from the monster alive!

Guess one of the ghosts was conservative. Serves ya right for gettin it on on the beach ;)

Oh and congrats on gettin married!


I don't get the conservative comment, but getting it on on teh beach is somethign everyone should do at least once in their lives.

And thanks!!!!!!!! :fluffle:

I don't know what it was. It could've been a monster or just the hicks messing with me. I'll never forget that night.

I don't get the conservative comment, but getting it on on teh beach is somethign everyone should do at least once in their lives.

And thanks!!!!!!!! :fluffle:

As in not big on gettin it on in public. Not important anyway, who cares what ghosts think? They can't vote ;)


EDIT: Or can they?

If the ghosts are republican, then that would explain how George Bush got elected and re-elected.

I don't know what it was. It could've been a monster or just the hicks messing with me. I'll never forget that night.


Ghosts don't bother me but dead animals all over as well as something crashing out of the bushes would make me shit my pants.

So...no one else has said it yet? *sigh* Guess it's my duty to do so, then.

Ghost stories, near-death experiences, and psychic phenomenon are BULLSHIT! (http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do)

As in not big on gettin it on in public. Not important anyway, who cares what ghosts think? They can't vote ;)


EDIT: Or can they?


oh, I'm slow.

Maybe they can vote but Kulikovo beat me to the joke :p

*very proud that his non-political thread was used for Bush bashing before it reached page two*

I stayed at the supposedly haunted Punderson Hotel here in Ohio. A couple of weird things happened; the power cut out spontaneously during the evening, pitching our room in to blackness (although that could have just as easily been due to the summer heat) and the fire alarms went off at 1 AM even though there was no possible source for them to do so.

So...no one else has said it yet? *sigh* Guess it's my duty to do so, then.

Ghost stories, near-death experiences, and psychic phenomenon are BULLSHIT! (http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do)
Well if Penn and Teller say so(actually Penn probably won't say anything)

So...no one else has said it yet? *sigh* Guess it's my duty to do so, then.

Ghost stories, near-death experiences, and psychic phenomenon are BULLSHIT! (http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do)

I knew there would be posts from people who were jealous that they never got to experience something otherworldly. :p

Like I said, I think the only people that see ghostly stuff are the people who are open-minded enough.

So Penn and Teller did an episode on ghostly phenomenon?

I believe that there are things and occurances that can't be explained and are supernatural.

Well, I've never seen a ghost, but I have seen a UFO. It wasn't a plane, helicopter, or balloon. But it was flying, and it was unidentified, so that made it a UFO.

I also had a dream that came true. I dreamed I got lost, and had to walk miles to get home. A few days later, my GF and I took a walk in a wooded area, took a wrong turn and wound up farther out than we planned, and had a long walk to get back to the car.

Ghosts no, but supposedly our office here where I work has some odd noises and such at night, and it is indeed creepy here when it's dark and you're alone.

As for physic phenomenon:

I have a guy I talk to online frequently who lives in Sheffield England. I myself am from Indiana, we've never met, never even spoken. After he graduated from highschool he went on a school related trip to the US for about six months. Had a dream one night, I was in an office, cube farm. Paperwork everywhere, saw one that had a name on it. I just knew it was his name, but I'd never known anyone with that name before. Mentioned it to him the next day. I was right.

I very rarely have things like that happen, but it does occur on occasion.

I believe that there are things and occurances that can't be explained and are supernatural.

There certainly are unexplainable things that happen, like large objects in my house getting thrown across the room by absolutely nobody, BUT I would call them natural as in part of the whole of all things. I don't like calling it supernatural because I don't think the spirit world is really separate from what we as human beings can generally see. Humans seem to place anything they don't understand in the realm of the supernatural as in not natural or beyond natural.

Well, seeing stuff fly across the room is hard to rationalize, except for saying it was supernatural. There have been studies done on poltergeists, ghosts that can interact with the physical world.

Well, seeing stuff fly across the room is hard to rationalize, except for saying it was supernatural. There have been studies done on poltergeists, ghosts that can interact with the physical world.


Right - I know what people mean when they say supernatural, but personally it bugs me for the reason I stated - that's all.

Also, I didn't see the thing fly across the room but I heard it from the next room and then went to see the object lying on the other side of the room and noone around to have done it.

I knew there would be posts from people who were jealous that they never got to experience something otherworldly. :p

Like I said, I think the only people that see ghostly stuff are the people who are open-minded enough.

So Penn and Teller did an episode on ghostly phenomenon?
You have to be sensitively attuned to it. Some people have no sensitivity. These are the ones who have no experience with the supernatural. There are also those who are supersensitive and can pick the slightest event.
I was telling my sister about my experiences, and she said I was hypersensitive so ghosts if you want to call them that, are naturally attracted to me.

I was visiting her on leave a few months back and we was just talking. Suddenly I heard a noise like someone giving a clearly audible sigh. But it was not me or her. She was in front of me, and the noise came from the other side of the room. Now we were the only two people in her apartment. I asked her if she heard it too. She said no. But then after I heard it the 4th time, she said she had clearly heard it too. I felt like there was an unnatural presence in the room. And I was like just frozen to the spot and I was started telling her about the experiences I've had and she said they were attracted to me cause I was hypersensitive to picking up their frequencies for some reason.

It's like I'll pick presences that no one else feels. Or I'll have deju vue experiences a few times a year. A lot of the times I feel the presences are evil. But she thinks they are just lost souls. But I feel their intentions are evil.

I have never experienced any such phenomena. Well, ok, maybe once, but I'm sure there's some natural explanation for it, we just don't know what it is.

I refuse to elaborate. :)

I have never experienced any such phenomena. Well, ok, maybe once, but I'm sure there's some natural explanation for it, we just don't know what it is.

I refuse to elaborate. :)
yeah, I really wish I could think up some natural explainations for most of my stuff, it would make my life way less freaky.........although freaky can be fun....:)

Oh wow..I could probably put like....4 pages worth of crap that has happened to me.

First we'll start with my "phsychic" stuff
Many times I am able to predict things very, very accuratly. Let me give you some small things first, and then maybe a few larger scaleo ones.

-So here at college there is the parking lot with like 30 spots, thats close to the dorm..there is almost never anything open there...But hey i always try anyways right...so after a while when my friends start riding with me i start predicting which spot on which side i get. for instance the first time it happened, it was night, and i was like ill get one at the end, left side..Boom it happened..my friends thought it was luck. well as of today i am 16 for 16 in predicting that..
-another small one is when one time i was driving along and i kinda was wandering off and i "imagined" that this car i had passed would cause an accident'...about 10 mins. later i saw it pass me going really fast. about 20 mins later i drove by it flipped over in a ditch on the side of a rode and a tractor trailer was partially in the ditch as well..
- ok as for a large scale event... i correctly predicted two things that happened in the middle east...i had a dream where i saw Both Ariel sharon and Yassir Arafat having golden crowns taken off of their heads. I took it to mean they would both lose power...well one died..and the other is on the verge of death..
i have lots more of those type of dream things..have them all written down too..

As for paranormal crap, I have had some limited experiences.
-when my great grandfather died when i was age 4, i saw him in my bedroom right after his funeral. the thing is though, that i wasn't scared or anything.
-i once had a dream that i was watching my great grandma(not married to the grandpa above) was cooking in our house, and then she left the oven open and the house burned down. Well in the morning i told my mom this and she freaked out...turns out that in the night she got up to get something to drink when she smelled something burning...you guess it..the oven was open and on...wierd...
i have had a few more..but those are rather personal and i don't feel like talking about them

Oh going back to my dreams/psychic events..Yesterday i was napping and had a dream that i would die last night in a driving accident. well last night i was going to walmart. i was at a stop light and started to go when i saw it turn green, but my foot slipped of the gas and i stopped, and like a second later i saw a huge truck and it ran right through the intersection, completly blowing a red light..if i had gone...well i wouldn't be here right now...really wierd...

I haven't had anything hapen to me yet, but stuff has happened to my family. I have a theory I just came up with, that kids who are afraid of the dark are actually afraid becuase they are tuned into "the spiritual world" and it's the unkown, which most humans are afraid of. They are more tuned in because they don't have as much "brainwashing" and have not been living as long in the physical world. Also, they are sensing less light. When one of your senses doesn't work well, your other senses get better. (Blind people hear very well.) Then people are made fun of because they are afraid of the dark. Everything tells them that they have nothing to fear, monters aren't real, and ghosts aren't. Eventually, you tune YOURSELF out. Anyone have any comments about my theory?

One time I had a prophetic dream that gave me the distinct impression I would encounter a strange woman the next day and we would make love. So I went downtown the next evening and picked up a hooker and paid her for sex. True story.

do aural hallucinations count in this? if they were brought on by being really, really, really, really stoned so not unexplained. it's just i've never heard of anyone else having a hallucination like it.

so i was really, really, etc. stoned and i wasn't feeling too good so i went to bed. but i kept feeling like i was reeling about even lying still and my vision had gone not blurred but sort of indistinct and a bit tunnelly. anyway i was lying there not able to sleep cuz of feeling weird then i started to hear all these hospital A&E sort of noises, trolly wheels going over lino floors, swing doors opening and closing, telephones, all sorts of bleeping and buzzing and stuff, and nurses and doctors shouting stuff about what i assume was my heart like i was having a heart attack or something. all this time i could see that i was in my room at uni but the sounds were so vivid (aural equivalent?) i was almost convinced that my room was the hallucination. eventually i must have passed out cuz i just woke up in my bed the next afternoon feeling all fuzzy. it was so vivid i can still remember the noises and the feeling even two years later. it was mental!

I've had a few experiences with the... other-natural (I don't care for the term supernatural). There's an event that occurred to me not quite a year ago while we were on vacation in Wisconsin. Now mind you, I've largely thought of it as a case of sleep paralysis with what's called a hypnopompic hallucination, but there are some circumstances around it which put it above the normal run of those kinds of cases. If you're really interested in the phenomena of sleep paralysis, I suggest you visit http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html for more information. Without further ado...

We had gone to bed as normal - this was in a Super 8 hotel and there was nothing extrordinary about it that I could determine, I've stayed in plenty of places like this before. About 2 or so in the morning, I woke up in the dark and felt a feeling of intense dread - I was totally unable to move, and it was a struggle even to breathe. I could look around the room some, but could not turn my head. Out of the corner of my eye, a shadow crossed the side of the room and stopped in front of me at the wall opposite the bed. It moved crouched and appeared to move on all fours, with long spindly arms. It appeared to stop and look at me briefly and then scuttled to the foot of the bed and stood, which allowed me to get a better look at it.

I still could not move and breathing was hard, as though I was being half smothered, but I could feel my pulse beating very hard - I can only guess how much my blood pressure was spiking at that point. I got a look at it - it had large eyes and was covered with dark matted fur - the arms and legs were very long and spidery, but had clawed hands. The face was very simian with long teeth, but very intelligent and malicious and grinned, showing long teeth, and moved up to face me directly, staring me right in the face, then looking over me to my fiance still asleep next to me on the bed. Then, it grabbed my right arm just below the elbow and squeezed - I could feel its fingers dig into my arm painfully - it felt like my arm was caught in a vise, but that seemed to break the paralysis - I gasped hard and was able to sit up fast, and turn on the light.

There was, of course, nothing there. This woke my fiance up. I calmed myself (it took quite some time) and told her what had happened.

So far, this is almost a classic case of sleep paralysis with a severe hallucination. It doesn't feel like a dream - to this day, I remember the whole thing in vivid detail. The episode felt like it lasted about 5 minutes or so.

However - when I had a chance to recover some, there was a large bruise forming on my right arm where I had felt the creature grab me. I could still explain this though - I take coumadin (a blood thinner which can cause people to bruise more easily) due to a heart condition and if my blood pressure had spiked enough, it might have caused me to break a blood vessel in my arm. Alternatively, when I sat up quickly, I may have banged my arm reaching for the lamp to turn it on, so this I can explain away.

This one is much harder to explain though. I was a thousand miles from home and my friends, however within hours on either side of my own experience, my close friend had a dream experience similar to mine, though not as intense or defined. On the other hand, another one of my friends was taken to the hospital due to a bad reaction to a pain drug he was taking (on prescription after surgery) - he hallucinated badly about spiderlike creatures chasing and attacking him. I don't know if my experience was sympathetic (or if theirs was related to mine in some way) but we were a thousand miles apart and could only relate our experiences once I got home. It is suggestive though - I'll leave you all to draw conclusions.

I do know that this experience was one of the most terrifying experiences I've ever had and has stayed with me far longer than I would have expected. Though it has not (thankfully) happened again, it still sticks in my mind. I don't make any judgements about what - if anything - visited that night, so you can draw your own conclusions about this episode.

There certainly are unexplainable things that happen, like large objects in my house getting thrown across the room by absolutely nobody, BUT I would call them natural as in part of the whole of all things. I don't like calling it supernatural because I don't think the spirit world is really separate from what we as human beings can generally see. Humans seem to place anything they don't understand in the realm of the supernatural as in not natural or beyond natural.
That's just what I think, too. Everything that happens in the natural world is, by definition, natural, even though we may not understand it. Congrats on your wedding, btw.

My experience:

When I was a teen, my school friends and I were a kind of informal esoteric interests club. We did a lot of meditation and trance work and experiments in divination with tarot and ouija boards. One of our friends' mother was a parapsychology professor -- yep, an actual one -- and she was sooo fascinated by our interest that she would let her son host party after party, just because we would be reading cards and palms and having seances during them, and she'd be lurking about taking notes and being a pest.

So at these parties, the ouija seances developed an interesting phenomenon. We were not trying to conjure specific spirits or ghosts; we were dealing with what are known as "drop-ins" in the ouija racket. We recorded anything that came through. Let me describe these seances: Four people with their hands on the planchette on the board, a fifth person asking questions, and two others taking notes. We usually did it in the living room, in bright light, surrounded by up to 40 or 50 other people who were dancing, eating, partying, etc, with loud music, and so on. So it wasn't really a "suggestive" atmosphere.

Anyway, one time when I was participating -- hand on planchette -- a drop-in announced himself, gave a nonsense-sounding name, and then had nothing more to say. So we went on to talk to other drop-ins. Except that this first guy apparenty stuck around, because every now and then he would interrupt conversations. He'd let us know if a spirit wanted in or out, or if there were spirits waiting to be heard, or if there were no more and the session could end. Like he was coordinating things. From that day forward, this spirit would come in every time I was participating. He would always start by announcing his name and saying hello to me, calling me by name, and then standing back and letting the session proceed.

On several occasions, he would interrupt conversations and say that the person we were talking to was lying and that we should not talk to him/her/it. A few times, he actually shut down sessions if he didn't like who we were talking to. He shut down sessions by making the planchette go round and round in very fast circles on the board. It felt very weird when that happened. Once, we tried to resist him on this, to see if we could take back control of the session, and he very forcefully spelled out the message (talking about the other spirit we had been conversing with): "Liar Liar End Session Now". We did as we were told.

This spirit -- whoever or whatever it was -- seemed especially attached to me. He always wanted me to be in the seance circle -- if not participating, at least close by. If I was not in the room, my friends would come looking for me, saying that he was asking for me. The day finally came when I was doing something else and didn't want to sit in on the seance. My friends said the spirit was insisting. I said, "Tell him to get over it because I'm not coming." The session could not proceed that night, and that spirit never came in again, and we never got such good results with the ouija ever again, either. I felt kind of bad about it afterwards. He was never rude, and he seemed to have our best interests in mind, but I just didn't like being pestered all the time.

More than a year after that, I was reading a book about Judeo-Christian demons and angels -- a kind of who's who in the spirit world. And there he was. There was his name, listed as a spirit of the underworld, a kind of gatekeeper between the worlds whose specialty was necromancy -- communication with the dead. Freaky, huh? I felt really bad, then, about having been rude to an expert in the field.

I have two explanations for this:

First, ouija really connects the living with the dead, and this guy was able to use my energies -- because of some personal harmony or affinity -- to come through and monitor our sessions.

Second, ouija does not connect the living with the dead but rather taps into some minor, latent psychic abilities that most people have. We had an entire party full of esoteric enthusiasts and occultists in that room, participating in and surrounding those seances. It is entirely possible that someone in that room knew about this supposed spirit and that we in the seance were pulling that thought out of that person's head. In that case, it was possible that my energies were just the strongest in the participating group. I have always been a keen one for meditation and can put myself in and out of light trance states quite easily.

Whether it was a non-human spirit from the other world, or a waking-dream constructed from our combined minds, I think I was acting as a kind of antenna or amplifier, pulling it together.

Dude ... Betty White sooo came to me and told me to use Jergens instead of Johnson's Baby Oil (tm) to polish the bishop ...

Does that count?

Oh wait ... she's not dead.

@Carterway

oh awesome and freaky story! thanks for sharing.

I also don't like the term super-natural.

Dude ... Betty White sooo came to me and told me to use Jergens instead of Johnson's Baby Oil (tm) to polish the bishop ...

Does that count?

Oh wait ... she's not dead.
Are you sure? :p

oh awesome and freaky story! thanks for sharing.

I also don't like the term super-natural.
Which one? Carterway's is some serious scary nightmare shit.

And Keruvalia's -- AAAH!! Golden Girls coming out of the walls!!! :eek:

@Muravyets

Whoa - I had forgotten all about my Ouija experiances. Good stuff, thanks for sharing.

In junior high we'd play with it at lunch out in teh field. We asked such dumb questions but apparently the end of the world is in 2012 one spirit said. I never thought about it until years later when I saw a couple different prophecies that said the same thing and reminded me.

@Keruvalia

Betty is probably just OOB'ing it to spread the good word because she cares... awwwwwwwww

@Muravyets

Whoa - I had forgotten all about my Ouija experiances. Good stuff, thanks for sharing.

In junior high we'd play with it at lunch out in teh field. We asked such dumb questions but apparently the end of the world is in 2012 one spirit said. I never thought about it until years later when I saw a couple different prophecies that said the same thing and reminded me.
Aw, crap, don't say things like that, what with current events being what they are and all. I'm going to say I don't believe in this stuff, just because.

I've got mixed feelings about ouija. I do believe in the existence of spirits, but I just don't believe the ouija technique does anything more than tap into the minds of the people using it. My story is certainly suggestive, but as I said, there were many regular human minds in that room that could have constructed this phenomenon.

Aw, crap, don't say things like that, what with current events being what they are and all. I'm going to say I don't believe in this stuff, just because.


I don't believe it either. it's all a bunch of hullabaloo bull honkey liar liar pants on fire end of session!!!11!!!eleven!!

The end of the world doesn't necessarily have to mean rain of fire, just perhaps the end of the way things are currently. A new era perhaps.

:confused: :D :confused:

ouija is fun but I don't trust that what's coming through is always (or ever) a spirit either.

I have had few minor psychic experiences, deja vu, stuff from dreams carrying over, little stuff that just might be my imagination.

However I have been studying psionics for a while now, on and off. Psionics, for those of you who don't know, is the study of the science behind human psychic abilities. It was started officially with an american scientist, who was doing a great deal of research under the supervision of the government into ESP. He devoted his life to it and got some very good results. However he caught his final assistant fiddling with the results, so he fired him and told his colegues to ignore the results since the man had come to work for them (he was new). His entire life's work was discounted. The only remenance the is the american psychic association (or something like that), which was set up in the time of his life, and as far as I know is still drawing money from the american government.

But enough backstory, the idea behind psionics that really interested me was the fact that it taught you how to do it. I went through the articles, and after a while I found the area I found easiest to practice. TK, telekinesis. It may sound really made-up, but it is true. I tried some totally objective tests (setting up a pin-wheel under a glass bowl on solid stone with a camera filming it), to see if I could move it. After some practice, I can. Since I have not been doing it much I can only move some small things, I often do a bit on the lavotry paper that hangs down from the holder for example. If you try and do too much you can hurt yourself, sometimes perminently (I spoke to someone who ended up in hospital because he tried to do tons of psionic stuff for ten hours or something when he was just starting). But the feeling when it is moving is so magnificent, I can't describe the feeling of euphoria when you are doing it. You are moving something with your mind! It is so incredable. Although I'll understand if you don't believe me though, I didn't really believe it untill I tried.

BTW, if anyone is interested, an excelent site for learning is www.psipog.net

I don't believe it either. it's all a bunch of hullabaloo bull honkey liar liar pants on fire end of session!!!11!!!eleven!!

The end of the world doesn't necessarily have to mean rain of fire, just perhaps the end of the way things are currently. A new era perhaps.

:confused: :D :confused:

ouija is fun but I don't trust that what's coming through is always (or ever) a spirit either.
Sure, yeah, new era -- let's concentrate on that happy thought. Just as long as it doesn't involve the US and Iran lobbing nukes around.


I'm enough in the ouija is just a board game camp to call it my firm opinion.

I have had few minor psychic experiences, deja vu, stuff from dreams carrying over, little stuff that just might be my imagination.

However I have been studying psionics for a while now, on and off. Psionics, for those of you who don't know, is the study of the science behind human psychic abilities. It was started officially with an american scientist, who was doing a great deal of research under the supervision of the government into ESP. He devoted his life to it and got some very good results. However he caught his final assistant fiddling with the results, so he fired him and told his colegues to ignore the results since the man had come to work for them (he was new). His entire life's work was discounted. The only remenance the is the american psychic association (or something like that), which was set up in the time of his life, and as far as I know is still drawing money from the american government.

But enough backstory, the idea behind psionics that really interested me was the fact that it taught you how to do it. I went through the articles, and after a while I found the area I found easiest to practice. TK, telekinesis. It may sound really made-up, but it is true. I tried some totally objective tests (setting up a pin-wheel under a glass bowl on solid stone with a camera filming it), to see if I could move it. After some practice, I can. Since I have not been doing it much I can only move some small things, I often do a bit on the lavotry paper that hangs down from the holder for example. If you try and do too much you can hurt yourself, sometimes perminently (I spoke to someone who ended up in hospital because he tried to do tons of psionic stuff for ten hours or something when he was just starting). But the feeling when it is moving is so magnificent, I can't describe the feeling of euphoria when you are doing it. You are moving something with your mind! It is so incredable. Although I'll understand if you don't believe me though, I didn't really believe it untill I tried.

BTW, if anyone is interested, an excelent site for learning is www.psipog.net
This is similar to how I think ouija and table tipping and other such things work. It's the participants moving the objects, but they don't realize they are doing it because they are hoping it is something else.

This is similar to how I think ouija and table tipping and other such things work. It's the participants moving the objects, but they don't realize they are doing it because they are hoping it is something else.

That is the hypothesis that I am leaning towards now. There is also the idea of constructs (balls or in fact constructs of whatever energy it is that does psionic stuff), which can do anything their creator can do and that they can 'program' it to do. I know a guy who used one to warm his wrist when someone enters the shop where he works, so he can get out there are get the sale. Most of them will die out after a while, but some are 'programmed' to take in ambient energy to keep going. So it is quite possible that ghosts etc are legacies from past generation's dabbling in the psionic world. That is just a theory, however.

@Carterway: If I don't sleep, I'm blaming YOU.

I haven't had anything hapen to me yet, but stuff has happened to my family. I have a theory I just came up with, that kids who are afraid of the dark are actually afraid becuase they are tuned into "the spiritual world" and it's the unkown, which most humans are afraid of. They are more tuned in because they don't have as much "brainwashing" and have not been living as long in the physical world. Also, they are sensing less light. When one of your senses doesn't work well, your other senses get better. (Blind people hear very well.) Then people are made fun of because they are afraid of the dark. Everything tells them that they have nothing to fear, monters aren't real, and ghosts aren't. Eventually, you tune YOURSELF out. Anyone have any comments about my theory?
Actually I'm afraid of the dark. Yeah, I'm 32, but there are certain impressions that don't go away with age. I think you might have a point. Because for some reason it's in the dark that you feel the presences.
Thing is, I've occasionally felt them when the lights were on too. Or when I was alone. When I'm alone I always getting and it's really quiet, I get an unexplained buzzing sound in my ear, like an alarm, and I feel a malicious presence is nearby.
A couple times, last year for the first time, I heard the buzzing a couple of times, and felt the presence even when there was another person around. It has to be really quiet for me to hear it though.

oiuja boards don't do anything. They're overblown.

What really matters is the "antenna" parrallel. If someone in the group is sensitive enough to pick something up, they will, and that can transfer to the movement of the ouija block or whatever it is you guys call it.
If you are sensitive enough, you can pick up the gatekeeper of Hades or whoever. That is why that one entity kept calling for Muravyets. From his story, it sounds like Muravyets was the antenna tuning into the frequency of this spirit being. As soon as he refused to partake in the exercise, the spirit stopped coming, because he was no longer tuning it in.

I think my room/ house is haunted.


- I've seen a hooded figure, like a monk, in my parents room, which is next to mine. It looked like it was praying. It's head was bowed, at any rate. Now, this COULD have been from me running down the hall and seeing my dad's robe (same color) and somehow moving it from the hook to stand on hte otherside of the bed. But I don't think so.

- I was running out of my room for whatever reason and I heard someone whisper something when I was the only one back there. It sounded like a name.

- My mom saw someone go into my sister's room when my sister was gone, and I was at the computer in my room.

- My door has locked by itself. Twice. The first time I was reading a book (and the guy just happened to have locked the door to a shed e_e) and went to go out, only to find the door locked. It locks from the inside, I have the key, and it was around midnight, so everyone else was asleep. The second time I slammed it to avoid my parents, sat down, and was yelled at for locking the door, which I'm positive I didn't do.

I never lock the door, for the record.

- Someone knocked on my door when everyone was asleep. It was midnightish again

- My friend was in my room and was apparently jabbed a few times.

- My closet door has closed by itself. Not so I can see it; it'll be open, then I'll look over and it'll be closed. I never close that door, because it had a mirror on it at one point that scared the hell out of me.

- I hear the shower doors banging on the other side of my wall when the bathroom is empty. They can't bang together anyway, since they're on tracks.

- Things will move from my room to the back of the closet, BENEATH everything. This is after I put things down on a dresser or something, and it will appear beneath things that haven't been moved in months.

- It gets supercold in here sometimes, and there's a marked difference once you step out and in of the door, with my room being colder.

- The dog will stare behind you, around you, and "track" things in the room where there is NOTHING that she could be tracking or seeing. Sometimes she will get up and run out of the room for no reason I can see.

yeah, I can't wait to get out of this room.

@Carterway: If I don't sleep, I'm blaming YOU.

Believe me, it took a LONG time for me to go back to sleep that night (well, really morning at that point)... and last night when I was telling the story, it took me a fair amount of time to settle myself afterwards, just thinking about it.

I've spent a long time researching sleep paralysis afterwards (I came across that while I was searching online to see if I could figure out some explanation or at least see stories like mine) and could almost discount the whole thing as an episode of that, but the clarity of the event - and the bruise and odd coincidences with my friends - suggest there's something more to it. What that is, I don't know and I'm not sure I want to know.

I already told my ghost stories a few times on here, but the short versions

1 I grew up in a house where a guy had shot himself in the head in my bedroom, creepy sounds, weird stuff, and a huge blood stain under my bed.

2 I rented a haunted apartment, at least 3 other people saw the ghost, 2 of them before I even said anything about him

I saw a ufo (meaning I have no clue what it was) when I was 9, but it could have been like a glow in the dark weather balloon that had jet power or something, not a clue.

I get morning sickness whenever someone I know is newly pregnant before I find out, after I find out it goes away.

My husband and I either know eachother way too well, or we can communicate through ESP. I would guess the former.

I have dreams about storms, earthquakes and such before they happen, but they are vague and I write them down, then it's all too easy to trace them back when something actually happens, so that doesn't really count I guess.

I have been told I am an empath, but really I am just good at reading people

I used to be a phone psychic.

I have weird dreams that make sense to people who are in them, but not to me.

oh, I think that's all.

*my husband had a dream about me when he was like 9, and I had a dream about him when I was about 12, but we didn't meet until much later, although the way we met is kinda weird and kismet like too.....

Very, very interesting... This may interest you, as it sounds a lot like your "type." Clicky (http://keirsey.com/personality/nfij.html)<--

It's mine, but some of the things you wrote seemed eerily familiar to me. Heh.

@Carterway: If I don't sleep, I'm blaming YOU.
Meh. Search for another thread entitled "Ghost stories" and there's a link on the first page to the somethingawful.com forums. Read all seven pages and affiliated links (if you can). Then try to sleep. XD

When my brother was in kindergarten, he saw a pirate ghost. When he saw it, he blinked his eyes(because we, as humans, love blinking our eyes almost as much as breathing) and the pirate vanished.

I used to live in this apartment complex. It used to be nice, but then section 8, or whatever it was called, happened and all these people from bad neighborhoods, including the drug dealers and gangbangers, moved in with government funds. Needless to say, there was a shooting somewhere in our once-beautiful apartment complex a few times a week. In fact, the person who lived in the apartment directly behind us was murdered there. When my brother, his friend, and I went into said apartment years later, we heard doors slamming and cupboards opening and closing. Nobody lived in that apartment since the murder I mentioned. All the doors(there are two that lead inside, the main front door on the side and the sliding glass door that leads to this patio area) and windows were locked. Nobody would have been able to get in without some sort of telltale sign.

My grandmother's house is somewhat haunted. On several ocassions, spannning over a decade and half, we've seen the same ghost. It's a ghost in all black hunched over. Even the foreign exchange student that lived there a few months, Silvia, saw it and we never told her anything about it before then.

When my mother was trying to back out of our driveway(we've lived in a house since December 1999), she saw a girl run behind it(she saw the girl in the rearview mirror). My mom turned her head around to look for the girl, but never saw her. She got out and searched and listened, but could not find or hear her. There was just no sign of her anywhere.

When my older sister was young, my mother had a dream where an angel told her that my older sister would run away. Almost 15 years later, my older sister ran away to our grand mother's house(on my mom's side) and lived there until she moved to Canada to live with her boyfriend(who is now her husband). Weird.

I've only ever had one truly freaky experience.

It was nightime, December 30th, two years ago at Point Leo, a surf beach which has some pretty dense bush nearby. I'd misplaced my phone, and a friend and I backtracked, going through the trail that we'd previously bush bashed. My friend had the torch, and I was leading. We were walking along the same trail until suddenly it changed.

The entire trail became different, the wind howled loudly for 10 seconds and the sound of the sea seemed to soften noticeably. We turned a corner and as my friend swung the torch around, we saw for the blink of a second the figure of a woman, around 5 foot 6 inches tall, with glowing golden eyes. The torch that we had wasn't the small pissy kind, and so we say everything. Black tattered dress, dark hair and her head was bent, so it was as if she was focussing on something a meter away from her foot. Then, the vision was gone. We both froze.

My friend slowly turned the torch to the direction of where we saw the woman. Everything seemed deathly silent. She was gone. There were no noises suggesting the person had run, or even walked away as we were less than three meters from what we saw. There was, however, a faint afterglow of two eyes. We couldn't have mistaken it for a shadow, because what we saw was in a small clearing, the size of a car.

I spoke first. "Er... Kris. Did you just see that too?"

"Yeah... Fuck your phone, let's fucking get out of here"

We ran. We still haven't gone back into those bushes since that day.

I hadn't really considered this until I wrote my story up, but maybe that woman was looking at my phone.

Maybe she was looking at her grave.

oiuja boards don't do anything. They're overblown.

What really matters is the "antenna" parrallel. If someone in the group is sensitive enough to pick something up, they will, and that can transfer to the movement of the ouija block or whatever it is you guys call it.
If you are sensitive enough, you can pick up the gatekeeper of Hades or whoever. That is why that one entity kept calling for Muravyets. From his story, it sounds like Muravyets was the antenna tuning into the frequency of this spirit being. As soon as he refused to partake in the exercise, the spirit stopped coming, because he was no longer tuning it in.
If that was what I was picking up. I think it more likely that I was picking up a fictional construct that was being created by the combined thoughts of the people in the room -- like a dream put together by a committee. In this case, I was "in tune" with the energies of the people in the room. It had the same result when I refused to participate anymore. The construct was no longer pulled together. The seances carried on for a while, but produced only the typical gibberish -- or, to continue the antenna analogy, static noise.

-snip-

- Someone knocked on my door when everyone was asleep. It was midnightish again

--snip-.
Well, at camp that happened. Except most of us were awake but it was lights out. Then the knocking started again, they made me open the door again, turns out osmeone from the girls dorm was there:p

So many great stories. :D

Take them at face value, and there are thrills and chills throughout.

Read them with a skeptical eye, though, and they can all be explained.

@ Wizard Glass
These sound similar to things that I've experienced in various places I've lived, but I have always been able to track them down to optical illusions and normal building conditions.

Just recently, a friend and I were working in my living room on a bright, clear, but quite windy, summer afternoon, when suddenly, something banged the front door of my apartment (in the room with us) so hard that the door (a big, heavy, old door) actually jumped on its hinges. It was exactly as if some strong person had tried to kick the door in -- BANG! Just once. Then silence. Naturally, being two women alone in the building at the time, we freaked out. Had someone broken into the house? Was there some violent person out in the hallway? We considered whether we should duck out via the fire escape, but everything was so silent after the bang, that I decided to check it out, despite my raging flight response. Sure enough, there was nobody there. We walked all over the building and checked all the outer door locks and everything. Nobody lurking and nobody in either of the other apartments.

"It was the wind," I said, and my friend said, "What are you talking about?"

The house I live in now is over 100 years old, and it uses a forced air heating system that has vents connecting all the rooms and floors of the building and the inside to the outside. When the heat isn't on, and especially when there are windows open, this creates a verticle flow of air through the building. In the central stairwell, it feels like a chimney, drawing air up or down through the building, depending on which vents/windows are open and on the direction of the wind. When the wind changes direction, it creates a kind of hiccup in the air flow through the building. The bang on my front door was an effect of a particularly strong and sudden shift in the wind creating an unusually violent hiccup.

My friend thought I was just desperately rationalizing until later, when we went out, and she felt the very strong suction of the wind on the door when she tried to open it, and when she did open it, we felt the sudden flow of air out of my apartment and into the stairwell. I had experienced this many times, so that's why I explained the bang the way I did, after looking for other explanations. But it was still a damned scary moment.

Such explanations exist for things like clattering track doors, self-closing doors; things falling behind other things, rather than in front, etc. As for the dog's behavior -- remember they can hear and smell things we can't. You might have mice in your walls -- or even squirrels outside the walls.

Well, at camp that happened. Except most of us were awake but it was lights out. Then the knocking started again, they made me open the door again, turns out osmeone from the girls dorm was there:p
This reminds me of an episode of my favorite ghost-y reality show, "Ghosthunters" on SciFi, the one with the Roto-Rooter men who hunt ghosts in their spare time. They investigated a supposedly haunted frat house (ghosts and DTs aren't the same thing, boys :p ), and one of the stories they were told was about a frantic woman's face that appeared at one of their upper windows, with a hand beating on the window for a bit, and then vanished. The window looked out over the roof of the attached nieghboring house, so the investigators talked to those people and learned that, a while back, a guest of theirs went up onto their roof to smoke and locked herself out. Those stupid guys, freaking out in their stoned haze, had left this poor woman stranded on the roof until her friends got home.

Believe me, it took a LONG time for me to go back to sleep that night (well, really morning at that point)... and last night when I was telling the story, it took me a fair amount of time to settle myself afterwards, just thinking about it.

I've spent a long time researching sleep paralysis afterwards (I came across that while I was searching online to see if I could figure out some explanation or at least see stories like mine) and could almost discount the whole thing as an episode of that, but the clarity of the event - and the bruise and odd coincidences with my friends - suggest there's something more to it. What that is, I don't know and I'm not sure I want to know.
I've been thinking about your story. The figure you describe, though horrific, is not that unusual a vision. Many people have described similar figures. My favorite horror writer, M.R. James used it in several of his short stories, in fact. Some people might say there are real beings like this -- evil spirits, maybe -- but there is also an interesting neurological theory that might explain it. The theory says that our brains have certain hardwired templates that we use for face and form recognition. Apparently, every new thing we see is compared to these templates to help us categorize them and, especially, determine how similar or different they are to ourselves. The basic face template looks remarkably like the faces of supposed space aliens -- inverted egg, big on top, small on bottom, with big eye spaces and very little in the way of nose and mouth. Basic body templates also tend to have smaller or narrower torsos with elongated limbs and oversized hands and feet with emphasis on fingers and toes. The templates then vary for size and height. I read of some studies that determined the existence of these templates by asking subjects to draw pictures of themselves while blindfolded or otherwise prevented from seeing what they were doing. They all came out with these kinds of distortions. These descriptive distortions are also present with people who suffer certain kinds of body dysmorphia.

The figure you saw in your dream or waking-dream -- and which others have reported seeing under similar circumstances -- could have been a vision of such a template form.

As to the bruise -- I also bruise easily and wake up with bruises and tiny scratches quite often. It's a result of moving around in my sleep and giving myself tiny injuries that don't hurt enough to wake me up. You say you were taking a medication that caused you to bruise easily. The sense of the figure gripping your arm could easily have been the sensation of the accidental injury to your arm coming into your dream but not waking you up completely.

The coincidence of the friend is harder to explain, unless we accept the possibility of a momentary psychic connection, such as my experience with the ouija seances. In that case, your friend might have been sharing your dream. Or it could have just been a coincidence -- maybe even a false one, meaning that two separate experiences were remembered as happening simultaneously because of their similarity, even if they didn't actually happen simultaneously.

...and stuck on the car door was a BLOODY HOOK!!!!! :eek:

The figure you saw in your dream or waking-dream -- and which others have reported seeing under similar circumstances -- could have been a vision of such a template form.

This certainly has occurred to me and is consistant with the idea of sleep paralysis - from what I understand is a "half-and-half" state where the brain is conscious and aware, but you cannot move as the brain hasn't thrown the "switch" to end the normal paralysis that exists to keep you from harming yourself in your sleep. Also, the dreamstate is superimposed on your waking awareness which causes the hallucinations - especially as you're already ramped up from being awake but unable to move.

As to the bruise -- I also bruise easily and wake up with bruises and tiny scratches quite often. It's a result of moving around in my sleep and giving myself tiny injuries that don't hurt enough to wake me up. You say you were taking a medication that caused you to bruise easily. The sense of the figure gripping your arm could easily have been the sensation of the accidental injury to your arm coming into your dream but not waking you up completely.

Definitely, no argument there. Any number of things could have caused the injury. I had my doctor examine it (on coumadin, I go in for regular blood testing and any unexplained bruises of any size are looked at as a possible problem) and told him what happened in brief. He agreed with me that it could be a bang from when I woke up or a broken blood vessel. It is at least as possible that I could move some while asleep, turned over the wrong way and did it that way. I know that during this episode, I was flat on my back (normal for sleep paralysis again).

The coincidence of the friend is harder to explain, unless we accept the possibility of a momentary psychic connection, such as my experience with the ouija seances. In that case, your friend might have been sharing your dream. Or it could have just been a coincidence -- maybe even a false one, meaning that two separate experiences were remembered as happening simultaneously because of their similarity, even if they didn't actually happen simultaneously.

They didn't happen exactly simultaneously, but we had no contact with each other until after all the incidents happened - but they did happen within hours of each other. It was only afterwards when we "compared notes" that we realized this was an awful big coincidence - but coincidence it could be. Normally, though I'm interested, I'm naturally somewhat skeptical about such things. I don't say this is a paranormal or "supernatural" experience (there's the natural and the natural that we don't understand of course), but it does seem to fit the topic and this episode has had a very powerful impact on me - to the point where I still find myself thinking about it a year later and it is still very fresh in my mind.

I have had few minor psychic experiences, deja vu, stuff from dreams carrying over, little stuff that just might be my imagination.

However I have been studying psionics for a while now, on and off. Psionics, for those of you who don't know, is the study of the science behind human psychic abilities. It was started officially with an american scientist, who was doing a great deal of research under the supervision of the government into ESP. He devoted his life to it and got some very good results. However he caught his final assistant fiddling with the results, so he fired him and told his colegues to ignore the results since the man had come to work for them (he was new). His entire life's work was discounted. The only remenance the is the american psychic association (or something like that), which was set up in the time of his life, and as far as I know is still drawing money from the american government.

But enough backstory, the idea behind psionics that really interested me was the fact that it taught you how to do it. I went through the articles, and after a while I found the area I found easiest to practice. TK, telekinesis. It may sound really made-up, but it is true. I tried some totally objective tests (setting up a pin-wheel under a glass bowl on solid stone with a camera filming it), to see if I could move it. After some practice, I can. Since I have not been doing it much I can only move some small things, I often do a bit on the lavotry paper that hangs down from the holder for example. If you try and do too much you can hurt yourself, sometimes perminently (I spoke to someone who ended up in hospital because he tried to do tons of psionic stuff for ten hours or something when he was just starting). But the feeling when it is moving is so magnificent, I can't describe the feeling of euphoria when you are doing it. You are moving something with your mind! It is so incredable. Although I'll understand if you don't believe me though, I didn't really believe it untill I tried.

BTW, if anyone is interested, an excelent site for learning is www.psipog.net

It does seem very interesting. Methinks I'll give this a try.

:rolleyes: I truly feel sorry for people like this. Ghosts do not exist. All of these people who claim to speak to the dead are charlatans who take advantage of stupid, simple minded superstitious people.

Haunted houses do not exist. Usually there is a tragic or frightening story attached to a particular place, and this story gets passed along from person to person, generation to generation. Everytime it is passed, it is interpreted, embellished, and added to by the storyteller. People use their imiginationas and interpret things the way they want to see them. This is where ghost stories and hauntings are born.

Intelligent, rational people do not believe in ghosts. :upyours:

If that was what I was picking up. I think it more likely that I was picking up a fictional construct that was being created by the combined thoughts of the people in the room -- like a dream put together by a committee. In this case, I was "in tune" with the energies of the people in the room. It had the same result when I refused to participate anymore. The construct was no longer pulled together. The seances carried on for a while, but produced only the typical gibberish -- or, to continue the antenna analogy, static noise.
that is entirely possible and likely an explanation.

:rolleyes: I truly feel sorry for people like this. Ghosts do not exist. All of these people who claim to speak to the dead are charlatans who take advantage of stupid, simple minded superstitious people.

Haunted houses do not exist. Usually there is a tragic or frightening story attached to a particular place, and this story gets passed along from person to person, generation to generation. Everytime it is passed, it is interpreted, embellished, and added to by the storyteller. People use their imiginationas and interpret things the way they want to see them. This is where ghost stories and hauntings are born.

Intelligent, rational people do not believe in ghosts. :upyours:
Intelligent, rational people do not use the upyours smilie, or the mp5, sniper, or gundge smilies. Please only use the other smilies only, and use them sparingly.
-Your Friendly Neighbourhood Smilie Police

Simply beacause people have experienced something unexplainable by modern science or something they did not understand does not mean they in some way intellectually deficient.
Who are you to deny the existance of haunted houses? What research have you done in this area? What were your findings and what was your train of thinking that lead to the conclusion that haunted houses do not exist?

oh I just remembered another incident I would like to share...


One time I was sitting in my bedroom watching television with all the lights off - I like to keep my bedroom dark (windows papered over and such). Above the television was a window into the house (my bedroom was really like a patio extension onto the house) and on the opposite side was a thick curtain so that light could not come thru.

Suddenly I noticed what looked like a reflection of the lights of an eighteen wheeler run across the window (right to left) as if 100 yards behind me was a freeway. I blinked and looked behind me in confusion and back to see it vanish off the left side of the window.

:rolleyes: I truly feel sorry for people like this. Ghosts do not exist. All of these people who claim to speak to the dead are charlatans who take advantage of stupid, simple minded superstitious people.

Haunted houses do not exist. Usually there is a tragic or frightening story attached to a particular place, and this story gets passed along from person to person, generation to generation. Everytime it is passed, it is interpreted, embellished, and added to by the storyteller. People use their imiginationas and interpret things the way they want to see them. This is where ghost stories and hauntings are born.

Intelligent, rational people do not believe in ghosts. :upyours:
Explain what is happening to people who were not told that something happened at a place. They go in, have an encounter with something. Go back and ask questions, and then, after they've already encountered some entity, find out that something bad happened at the place.

Well, at camp that happened. Except most of us were awake but it was lights out. Then the knocking started again, they made me open the door again, turns out osmeone from the girls dorm was there:p


:p

sadly, my house is not like camp.


The house I live in now is over 100 years old, and it uses a forced air heating system that has vents connecting all the rooms and floors of the building and the inside to the outside. When the heat isn't on, and especially when there are windows open, this creates a verticle flow of air through the building. In the central stairwell, it feels like a chimney, drawing air up or down through the building, depending on which vents/windows are open and on the direction of the wind. When the wind changes direction, it creates a kind of hiccup in the air flow through the building. The bang on my front door was an effect of a particularly strong and sudden shift in the wind creating an unusually violent hiccup.


my house is (relatively) new, and I'm almost positive it was a knock... in fact, I thought it was my dad because it sounded EXACTLY like his knock. So alike his that I said "come in", which scared the hell out of me when he didn't come in and there wasn't another knock to signify he hadn't heard.

We also don't use the heating at night... it's a wood-stove, and my parents turn it off when we sleep since "we don't need it when we're sleeping". or something to that effect.


Such explanations exist for things like clattering track doors, self-closing doors; things falling behind other things, rather than in front, etc. As for the dog's behavior -- remember they can hear and smell things we can't. You might have mice in your walls -- or even squirrels outside the walls.


The falling behind doesn't apply... I mean literally UNDER things. The only way to do it would have been to pick up the top object and put it under it, which I don't do. Too easy to lose things because I don't like looking in there for stuff.


It could be mice for the dog, or hearing things outside, but the staring... gah, it's creepy. Whatever it is, I'm glad when she doesn't stare at "nothing" :)

:p

sadly, my house is not like camp.




my house is (relatively) new, and I'm almost positive it was a knock... in fact, I thought it was my dad because it sounded EXACTLY like his knock. So alike his that I said "come in", which scared the hell out of me when he didn't come in and there wasn't another knock to signify he hadn't heard.

We also don't use the heating at night... it's a wood-stove, and my parents turn it off when we sleep since "we don't need it when we're sleeping". or something to that effect.




The falling behind doesn't apply... I mean literally UNDER things. The only way to do it would have been to pick up the top object and put it under it, which I don't do. Too easy to lose things because I don't like looking in there for stuff.


It could be mice for the dog, or hearing things outside, but the staring... gah, it's creepy. Whatever it is, I'm glad when she doesn't stare at "nothing" :)
about the dog part. We had a dog and a cat at our house back home. They both would, on occasion, stare at nothing as if something was there. Sometimes they would sniff at the air where they staring. But there was nothing there. I've seen the cat stop, stare up into the air and just take off running with its fur stuck up, after it hissed. The dog would just look up into the air or in front of it and bark. A few times it would stare at this glass cabinet that my sister kept our mother's ashes in a container in. And it would bark at it as if something was there.
I have been told by other people, about how they saw someone go in my room while I was gone. Even though it was locked and I had the only keys.
It's like it couldn't be me, I wasn't even there (I was either at college or at a political meeting). But they said they thought it was me.

:p

sadly, my house is not like camp.




my house is (relatively) new, and I'm almost positive it was a knock... in fact, I thought it was my dad because it sounded EXACTLY like his knock. So alike his that I said "come in", which scared the hell out of me when he didn't come in and there wasn't another knock to signify he hadn't heard.

We also don't use the heating at night... it's a wood-stove, and my parents turn it off when we sleep since "we don't need it when we're sleeping". or something to that effect.
I'm not saying there's no such thing as ghosts or spirits. I'm just saying that there are other likely explanations that should be checked out. You'd be surprised what goes on in buildings -- I mean in the walls, framing, pipes and wires of them. Humidity and dryness cause progressive expansion or contraction of materials until some joint goes pop. It can happen even inside a plank of wood, in the grain. You turn the heat off at night, for instance, and the whole building starts to cool rapidly, each of its parts shrinking separately. Heat from a wood stove, in particular, is extremely drying, while night air is usually more humid. This can warp the structure measureably, pop parts out of shape, cause noises, cause doors to move by themselves, latches to pop open, etc. The arrangement of rooms in a house can even cause sound distortions and dislocation, causing you to hear things in one part of the house that you can't hear in others. And so on. Even in brand new buildings.

The falling behind doesn't apply... I mean literally UNDER things. The only way to do it would have been to pick up the top object and put it under it, which I don't do. Too easy to lose things because I don't like looking in there for stuff.
I'm not going to try to debunk your experience, but are you sure nobody else is getting into your stuff? Are you absolutely certain the dog doesn't like to bury stuff in the closet, for instance? My cat steals my jewelry. For years, I thought I was just hopelessly incapable of not losing things, but then one day, while I was chatting on the phone, I watched my cat walk into the room, walk up to my desk chair, reach his paw under the chair cushion, and casually pull out one of my favorite bracelets to play with. I was like, "You furry bastard!" That's all I'm going to say about it.

It could be mice for the dog, or hearing things outside, but the staring... gah, it's creepy. Whatever it is, I'm glad when she doesn't stare at "nothing" :)
Critters will drive you nuts if you pay too much attention to them. :D

<snip> Normally, though I'm interested, I'm naturally somewhat skeptical about such things. I don't say this is a paranormal or "supernatural" experience (there's the natural and the natural that we don't understand of course), but it does seem to fit the topic and this episode has had a very powerful impact on me - to the point where I still find myself thinking about it a year later and it is still very fresh in my mind.
I was really impressed by your story. I love stuff like this because it's a challenge to think about it. Figuring out what could have caused it teaches us so much about the natural world and our own abilities. And those things that can't yet be explained add depth to our experience of the universe. That's the way I see it.

Buddy a mine (sounds beleivable now) swears this is true:

He was at this party by this lake, right. And there was this guy passed out in this chair. So, after a while my buddy and another guy take off to walk the trail around the lake, its night and its all foggy, and they come across this guy crashed in a chair. My buddy walks up, and sees its the guy from the party, in the same chair...actually touched him. So, they try and wake him up, they cant, so they leave. Back at the party...guys still crashed in the chair.

There is only one trail, there was no way the guy coulda lugged a chair past them and played a joke.

Well, thats the only good story I have.

The strangest thing i've ever seen is a person walking backwards at night on a highway railing on a cliff. It looked terrifying and unbelievable that someone would actually do that, and i couldn't see how he had gotten there, so it could be a ghost. But probably was just a crazy thrillseeker.

I'm not saying there's no such thing as ghosts or spirits. I'm just saying that there are other likely explanations that should be checked out. You'd be surprised what goes on in buildings -- I mean in the walls, framing, pipes and wires of them. Humidity and dryness cause progressive expansion or contraction of materials until some joint goes pop. It can happen even inside a plank of wood, in the grain. You turn the heat off at night, for instance, and the whole building starts to cool rapidly, each of its parts shrinking separately. Heat from a wood stove, in particular, is extremely drying, while night air is usually more humid. This can warp the structure measureably, pop parts out of shape, cause noises, cause doors to move by themselves, latches to pop open, etc. The arrangement of rooms in a house can even cause sound distortions and dislocation, causing you to hear things in one part of the house that you can't hear in others. And so on. Even in brand new buildings.


I'm not going to try to debunk your experience, but are you sure nobody else is getting into your stuff? Are you absolutely certain the dog doesn't like to bury stuff in the closet, for instance? My cat steals my jewelry. For years, I thought I was just hopelessly incapable of not losing things, but then one day, while I was chatting on the phone, I watched my cat walk into the room, walk up to my desk chair, reach his paw under the chair cushion, and casually pull out one of my favorite bracelets to play with. I was like, "You furry bastard!" That's all I'm going to say about it.


Critters will drive you nuts if you pay too much attention to them. :D
1. You're talking about acoustics which is a whole science by itself.

I got my palm read by a drunk girl once.

That's about it for me.

1. You're talking about acoustics which is a whole science by itself.
Acoustics, thanks. I forgot the word and was reduced to wrestling out that odd sentence.

I have tinnitus. Every time I head something weird, I just blame it on that.

I'm not saying there's no such thing as ghosts or spirits. I'm just saying that there are other likely explanations that should be checked out. You'd be surprised what goes on in buildings -- I mean in the walls, framing, pipes and wires of them. Humidity and dryness cause progressive expansion or contraction of materials until some joint goes pop. It can happen even inside a plank of wood, in the grain. You turn the heat off at night, for instance, and the whole building starts to cool rapidly, each of its parts shrinking separately. Heat from a wood stove, in particular, is extremely drying, while night air is usually more humid. This can warp the structure measureably, pop parts out of shape, cause noises, cause doors to move by themselves, latches to pop open, etc. The arrangement of rooms in a house can even cause sound distortions and dislocation, causing you to hear things in one part of the house that you can't hear in others. And so on. Even in brand new buildings.

Ahh, ok. I thought you were one of those that insists it can't be and that there must be a logical (and non-paranormal) explaination for everything.

I'm just... unsure if that could cause it. I've never heard it again, or any other unexplainable noises like that. I will admit that I know next to nothing about accoustics and what it's capable of, so it oculd have been that. But I'd swear it was from the door, which is one of those cheapish almost-hollow door frames.


I'm not going to try to debunk your experience, but are you sure nobody else is getting into your stuff? Are you absolutely certain the dog doesn't like to bury stuff in the closet, for instance? My cat steals my jewelry. For years, I thought I was just hopelessly incapable of not losing things, but then one day, while I was chatting on the phone, I watched my cat walk into the room, walk up to my desk chair, reach his paw under the chair cushion, and casually pull out one of my favorite bracelets to play with. I was like, "You furry bastard!" That's all I'm going to say about it.

Positive. I'm in my room 24/7, and if I'm not in my room I'm generally at school and everyone else is at school/ work. I don't let people in my room because I HATE it when people mess with things or when they move things.

And I'm sure of the dog. She's a really timid girl, and is scared of most things :( there's no way she'd jump up on a dresser and snag something, only to bury it in the closet. On the remote chance that she might, there's no way she'd be able to dig through stuff without making it fall on her.

The closet is not a deathtrap in disguise, I swear.


Critters will drive you nuts if you pay too much attention to them. :D

They do XD Even my gecko does it... she'll stalk at me. or stare at a poster until my head explodes in confusion.

:rolleyes: I truly feel sorry for people like this. Ghosts do not exist. All of these people who claim to speak to the dead are charlatans who take advantage of stupid, simple minded superstitious people.

Haunted houses do not exist. Usually there is a tragic or frightening story attached to a particular place, and this story gets passed along from person to person, generation to generation. Everytime it is passed, it is interpreted, embellished, and added to by the storyteller. People use their imiginationas and interpret things the way they want to see them. This is where ghost stories and hauntings are born.

Intelligent, rational people do not believe in ghosts. :upyours:

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamed of in your philosophy." Hamlet, Act I Sc. v.

Why so angry? Sounds like it might be denial.

This is so much fun - these wierd unexplainable stories are my favorite things to read. I could go to any ghost forum site and read them (which I do), for sure, but I like to hear them more from people I "know".

Thanks for sharing everyone and keep 'em coming if you have any more good stuff to share.

Your stories reminded me of another instance of wierdness:

I was alone in a house I rented with two other people (who were out of town that night - and we didn't have any pets). I had something in my head that I really wanted to write down so I grabbed a pen and a pad of paper. Before beginning I had to use the restroom so I set the pad of paper down next to my bed and the pen on top the paper pad and went potty :p - when I returned the pen was gone! I searched on, under and all around the pad for my pen, as well as all over the house for another pen or pencil and there was none to be found so I went to bed without writing whatever it was down.

When I woke up in the morning, the pen was right where I layed it on top of the pad of paper! :confused:

I had an encounter that I described in another thread...
A friend and I were walking through a pine forest at dusk, and both of us very quietly freaked out when we saw something. Neither of us wanted to seem foolish in front of the other (in case it was a trick of the light), but neither of us wanted to stick around (in case it was real). We upped the speed of our walking, 'til we'd exited the pines, and even then didn't stop to talk what we'd seen. It was by a small bridge that we both 'fessed up and compared notes.

We'd seen precisely the same thing at the same time; a woman with pale, translucent flesh, dressed in clothes that were lighter, yet similarly pale and translucent. Clothes that looked more like impossibly-flowing rags or ribbons, swaying and undulating about her legs and waist in such a way as her body was not apparently moving, and all of it as though she were submersed in water - slow movements, deliberate motion. Her eyes were blackened pits with dull pin-point reflections glittering in them. There was no sound whatsoever.

What I'd seen was this: Coming 'round the corner of one stand of pines, this woman, to my left and out of the corner of my eye, was floating about twelve feet off the ground. That was when we'd both suddenly upped our walking speed. I glanced back before we stopped at the bridge, mentally telling myself that what I'd seen had surely been a trick of the failing light in the pines, and more-than half-expecting to see that my momentary sense of dread was naught but a flight of ill-timed paranoia.

Instead, when I turned back to look, I saw her again, less-clear than before - but looking directly at the two of us. That's pretty much it. We went about our affairs after that, and never saw her again.

*chills up and down my spine*

I got this from someone else.

This one chick was sleeping in her house at nights. Her room was on the second floor. One night she was dreaming, and she saw a silent black helicopter hovering by her window. She looked over at her roommates bed but her roommate wasn't there.
Well she woke up and saw this weird black line thread, like a fishing line, slinking down from the ceiling toward her bed where she was lying and at the moment she felt that her very soul was about to be snatched away. THe thread was coming right out of the ceiling. When she sat up, the thread pulled back into the ceiling as if it was being reeled back in.

Weird but interesting dream. Soulsnatchers using fishing lines to snatch people's souls while they sleep.

here are a few of my experiances...and such,

this happened when i was about 4. every one in my house was asleep. when my parents went to bed the shut all of the lights off. i had woaken up at around mid night and walked down to my kitchen because i had heard the chairs scraping on the floor. when i got to the kitched the lights were on and no one was ther but the chairs looked as tho they had just been pushed back from the table.
this was strange because when we were done with dinner we always pushed the chairs in

i have always talked in my sleep but on the night of my 13th birthday i woak up to talking to a young girl sitting at the foot of my bed.
i have had 'people' walk thought my room or my house, some stay and watch me others ignore me.

a friend of mine stayed the night at my house and woke up in teh middle of the night to see some one standing over her. she woak me up and i saw it as well.

i have had a few out of body experiances along with de ja vu(or how ever you spell it) and regualry feel like some one is looking over my shoulder.

i tend to know who's calling befor i pick up the phone, or look at the caller id and friends have gotten used to me eather finishing their thoughts or telling them what they are thinking.

...well thats only some of it but its interesting none the less

:rolleyes: I truly feel sorry for people like this. Ghosts do not exist. All of these people who claim to speak to the dead are charlatans who take advantage of stupid, simple minded superstitious people.

Haunted houses do not exist. Usually there is a tragic or frightening story attached to a particular place, and this story gets passed along from person to person, generation to generation. Everytime it is passed, it is interpreted, embellished, and added to by the storyteller. People use their imiginationas and interpret things the way they want to see them. This is where ghost stories and hauntings are born.

Intelligent, rational people do not believe in ghosts. :upyours:

10th Century AD: Intelligent, rational people know that the world is flat.

As for me, I haven't experienced much, I did feel that one night when I was in an old rollaway bed was that someone stabbed me in the back, it felt just like a stab would expect to feel, except without a wound. The other thing, When I go in certain abandoned houses I feel a huge feeling of Forgotteness, Forelorness that's down right opressive, a huge feeling of Abandonment.

I also saw a white rip in the sky.
And I get Deja-vu often.

No, nothing really like that, but once, for a split second when my mind was totally blank, and hadnt had sleep I did see in what I call "photon view"

Looks somewhat like this picture of the matrix, Except it wasnt little symbols but little green dots, that formed the outline of the livingroom.

Very Odd.http://www.3d-screensaver-downloads.com/images/3d-matrix-screensaver/big3.jpg

EDITED

And those little green dots didnt move, like they did in the Matrix either

Anyone have any good tales that defy explanation?

I'll share a couple of mine:


When I moved in with my mom in So. Cal. for 7th grade, she told me that they had experienced a lot of strange things at that house that they decided was the doings of a ghost which they named Claurice. I've had ghostly experiences before (I actually went to places where they supposedly had been seen just to experience them) so I wasn't scared or worried. Well after about a year of living there I finally experienced something. What happened was when I would lie down at night and place my right ear against the pillow, I would hear a woman whispering my name over and over and over again until I fell asleep. This went on for the duration of the 3 years that I lived there. At first it was a bit unnerving but it wasn't long before I liked it as it soothed me off to sleep.

There there was a house in Los Angeles, where I lived with a couple of friends. Lots of strange things happened there, like things getting thrown across the room, electronic devices like the t.v. doing strange things, pictures taken there would sometimes have strange apparitions in them and so forth. There was one bedroom in particular where pretty much everyone that ventured in there felt an intense negative energy. Well the freakiest thing that happened to me there went like this: It was a long walk down the the street from the house because we were on a giant lot with a big garden, so one night I accompanied my roomate as she walked down to a car waiting to deliver something to her. As I waited I clearly saw a shadow run up the sidewalk towards the house so as my roomate was ready to go back to the house I told her what I saw and she screamed and ran toward the house and I was right behind her. Seconds before she reached the door the door knob and door started shaking violently as if someone on the inside was desperately tryign to get out. It stopped and immediately my roomate grabbed the handle and went in and noone was on the other side (we had another roomate so we thought it was him - it wasn't).

Once I had a dream/vision where I woke up to the alarm radio and there was a really interesting talk radio show on that I had never heard before, speaking of the benefits of meditation. As I was listening to this show (in my dream), I woke up to the alarm radio where the exact same show was on that I was listening to in my dream - WORD FOR WORD!

Once I was kinda drifting off to sleep when I had this strong vision in my head that I was going to run into some trouble on a certain part of a certain freeway. I even tried to interact with the vision and invisioned myself swurving into the emergency lane to avoid the problem but then my vision showed that there was going to be an obstruction right there. SO the next day while on that freeway and coming up to that part there was a truck directly in front of me that had HUGE lettering on the back that said "Slow Down", and I remembered my vision. I not only slowed down, I also changed to a lane a bit further over. When the exact part of the freeway came up I saw an obstruction in the emergency lane where I would have swurved, then all of a sudden a giant metal ball the size of a soccer ball was pinballing off of car tires and coming straight at me, I just aimed my care to where the ball would go directly under the center of my car as I could not change lanes because there were cars on either side of me. IT clanged along the bottom of my car and that was it. Still I think I might be related to Nostradamus :P


That is just a small sampling of the wierd shit I have experienced in my life. I've seen UFO's. I've communicated psychically with a friend at about 80% accuracy with a test we did with each other. I've had more encounters with ghosts.

Do you think that people that see or experience stuff like this only see it because they are open to it or what?
Hey man. Good post. *bows*
I've many shadow experiences. I've had many voice experiences (that's when i first started catching on to my nature). I've had precognition of auditory patterns ("The Day I Tried to Live" and "Leviathan"). I've been in rooms where sh*t was flying around. As for the last *chromatic* experience you mentioned, i haven't had anything that intense as premonitions go.
I have seen two UFOs - both times with witnesses. The second was Nov. 30, 1998, at 4.19 until about 4.23 AM. The power grid tripped for my city when that happened. One of the witnesses was a police dispatcher.
I've shared visions with a few friends ... and further, i've heard people's thoughts word for word (this happens when i don't sleep much), and i've had another person reach out to me from a distance and see through my eyes more than once (and i feel them doing it). I have also had quite a few ghost experiences. The last big one i had convinced me to drop tantra and stay away from empathic tests for what might easily be the rest of my life.

Suffice it to say, in my experience, yes ... paranormal instances like these are quite often in correspondance to the person's nature. Kind of poltergeist-esque.

I'm glad you weren't harmed.

Anyone have any good tales that defy explanation?

I'll share a couple of mine:


When I moved in with my mom in So. Cal. for 7th grade, she told me that they had experienced a lot of strange things at that house that they decided was the doings of a ghost which they named Claurice. I've had ghostly experiences before (I actually went to places where they supposedly had been seen just to experience them) so I wasn't scared or worried. Well after about a year of living there I finally experienced something. What happened was when I would lie down at night and place my right ear against the pillow, I would hear a woman whispering my name over and over and over again until I fell asleep. This went on for the duration of the 3 years that I lived there. At first it was a bit unnerving but it wasn't long before I liked it as it soothed me off to sleep.

There there was a house in Los Angeles, where I lived with a couple of friends. Lots of strange things happened there, like things getting thrown across the room, electronic devices like the t.v. doing strange things, pictures taken there would sometimes have strange apparitions in them and so forth. There was one bedroom in particular where pretty much everyone that ventured in there felt an intense negative energy. Well the freakiest thing that happened to me there went like this: It was a long walk down the the street from the house because we were on a giant lot with a big garden, so one night I accompanied my roomate as she walked down to a car waiting to deliver something to her. As I waited I clearly saw a shadow run up the sidewalk towards the house so as my roomate was ready to go back to the house I told her what I saw and she screamed and ran toward the house and I was right behind her. Seconds before she reached the door the door knob and door started shaking violently as if someone on the inside was desperately tryign to get out. It stopped and immediately my roomate grabbed the handle and went in and noone was on the other side (we had another roomate so we thought it was him - it wasn't).

Once I had a dream/vision where I woke up to the alarm radio and there was a really interesting talk radio show on that I had never heard before, speaking of the benefits of meditation. As I was listening to this show (in my dream), I woke up to the alarm radio where the exact same show was on that I was listening to in my dream - WORD FOR WORD!

Once I was kinda drifting off to sleep when I had this strong vision in my head that I was going to run into some trouble on a certain part of a certain freeway. I even tried to interact with the vision and invisioned myself swurving into the emergency lane to avoid the problem but then my vision showed that there was going to be an obstruction right there. SO the next day while on that freeway and coming up to that part there was a truck directly in front of me that had HUGE lettering on the back that said "Slow Down", and I remembered my vision. I not only slowed down, I also changed to a lane a bit further over. When the exact part of the freeway came up I saw an obstruction in the emergency lane where I would have swurved, then all of a sudden a giant metal ball the size of a soccer ball was pinballing off of car tires and coming straight at me, I just aimed my care to where the ball would go directly under the center of my car as I could not change lanes because there were cars on either side of me. IT clanged along the bottom of my car and that was it. Still I think I might be related to Nostradamus :P


That is just a small sampling of the wierd shit I have experienced in my life. I've seen UFO's. I've communicated psychically with a friend at about 80% accuracy with a test we did with each other. I've had more encounters with ghosts.

Do you think that people that see or experience stuff like this only see it because they are open to it or what?

Supernatural experiences:

I was thinking up a ghost story based off of CnC generals out of boredom, halfway through it just came to me, at the scary bit the smoke detector came on when where was no smoke. Seriously, right when the dead pilot jumped out at the ranger the smoke detector went off.

I was feeling fatigued one day and fell asleep, I dreamt that a demon wanted to attack me, I woke up when I felt myself fall on the bed, which I believed I was sleeping on. It could be psychological, like a waking nightmare or some such but it was still scary.

I was having trouble thinking in class, I focused hard and the lights and electronics began to go all screwy. Also note that later that day when I saw a jack o lantern things became clearer in my head.

I can turn lead into gold.

Just seeing the ghost that was accidently filmed in the movie "Three Men & a Baby" scared the bejezuts out of me.

Just seeing the ghost that was accidently filmed in the movie "Three Men & a Baby" scared the bejezuts out of me.

Much as I love wonderment in the world...

Ghost... Busted. (http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/3menbaby.asp)

Much as I love wonderment in the world...

Ghost... Busted. (http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/3menbaby.asp)

Hmmm. That sounds like a crock to me. A Ted Danson standee? The ghost was too short for that. And the camera panned by that area then back too fast to sneak in a standee. And Remember the director Was Leanord Nemoy. Don't you think he is successful enough to want to try a gimmick?

A cop I know rented it and took it to the station and had it enlarged. The eyes were moving. They are focused on the baby.

My entire life. ;)


My experiences once again picked up a few weeks ago when I heard scratching on my bed.. Problem is, no one was home. So I was like, "Hmm, that is weird" I got up, went to the bathroom, and then went to get a drink. I was sitting on the couch drinking some water, when dishes just flew off the counter. They were not on the edge or anything, because it was a plate with knives on it. I'm not absent minded enough to just set something like that on the edge. And I didn't knock them off, as I didn't walk near them, nor touch them, and I was sitting when they came down crashing. So that caused me to leap in fear over the couch. After a few moments i gathered them up and placed them in the sink, and then the common "haunting" thing happened to me, the power in the apt started going crazy. This is the one constant in every situation I have been in with supernatural events. So, I turned off the breaker to my apt, just so that nothing could happen. So what happened then? My toilet began to flush at random intervals. So I had to go in there and fiddle with that. So finally, about 4 am, i got back to bed, and then a soda can in my room went flying and hit the wall. By that point I put on my headphone and hid under the covers. Well, a few days later when my roomies got back, I relayed the events to them. The next morning I slept in past my classes, and my roomies were at theirs. Well, I had a sleep paralysis type of event happen to me, where there was this figure in a dark cloak that was choking me and then I guess I passed out, and then woke back up and no one was around. So, I left the apt and had lunch and came back and told my roomies about it, and both of them said they both had dreams about a man in a black cloak watching them or threatening them.

It has been a few weeks since that all happened, but I still feel uneasy about the events. Its the worst I've ever faced in my long life experience with the paranormal.

As in not big on gettin it on in public. Not important anyway, who cares what ghosts think? They can't vote ;)


EDIT: Or can they?

Only in Chicago.

So when I was a kid I lived in this town in England that had a priory and castle dating back to fucking a long time ago (leik 700AD). And there was this rumor that you could contact the 'black monk' if you went there at midnight and shit and had a seance. So we did.

There we sat around teh old priory graves using the enochian rituals and stuff to try and get the 'black monk' summoned so he could tell us all kinds of cool shit about our future. Nothing happened.

yeah I do believe that it is possible that ghosts exist, UR AL SCITZOS

This thread is paranormal . . . someone performed an unholy act of necromancy and caused it to rise from it's grave!

Whoooooooooooooooo! Spooky!

I just heard a wolf howl to my right, right here inside my house... then I realized that my computer speakers were still on and a banner add for classic horror movies had made the noise... still spooky though.

I'll contribute something worthwhile sometime later, for now I should try to sleep (fat chance of that the way I have been)

Nothing with ghosts and the like in my life. In fact I believe they happen to be part of an over active imagination. I do however have a near death experience story (both literal and psychological).

While in Switzerland I managed to slip and fall while on a path from a hostel to the town I was in. I fell about 45 feet and broke 5 vertebra. That's the literal near death experience. :tongue:

Now for the "psychological" near death experience. Not so much near death as really damn weird I guess. After I'd been in the hospital for a few days and was stabilized the doctors felt it was okay to get me out of the temporary and very uncomfortable collar and make a custom fitted one. That went all A-OK until the guys who make the thing showed up for the final fitting. After pointing out a part of the new collar that didn't fit right, they took it off to re-adjust it. At that point I apparently suffered a seizure. Scariest damn experience of my life, as well as one of the most interesting.

The doctors on both sides of the world (Switzerland and Canada) as well as the EEG and MRI (or MIR in french :p) agree it was probably from trauma suffered from attacking the ground head first.

During the seizure which happened to last only a number of seconds, I felt I experienced my entire range of emotions from laughing to crying and back again. I felt or thought I had a distant conversation with my father. I could hear what sounded like that sick evil little girl movie laugh the entire time. Colours were everywhere especially the bright blues, yellows and greens as well as black. It also felt like an eternity before I recovered back to the real world.

This part I think ties in with over active imaginations and how people see ghosts or attribute strange phenomenon to the supernatural. We don't give our brains enough credit. Subconsciously they do much more than just keep us breathing and our heart pumping. The vast resources that are our memory and experiences are constantly being scanned over to bring reference to what we see and do everyday in every moment of our lives. We don't often ever get to experience that and recognize that while conscious. While unconscious, such as being asleep, we do but we often don't recognize it and then don't remember or we just tell ourselves not to remember, that it was only a dream.

So what happens consciously, what makes us believe there are monsters in the shadows and ghosts in the windows, I think is our imagination and our memories and experiences getting all mixed up on the way to our reasoning centers before we have a chance to sort through the crap and pull out the most logical and realistic answer.

Just my take on the whole subject.

oohhhh - good time for a revival of this thread.

My paranormal experiences have been lacking lately.

oohhhh - good time for a revival of this thread.

My paranormal experiences have been lacking lately.

The other side is busy betting on McCain/Obama.

Far too often to be coincidental, images (usually text images) I see in my dreams are later seen IRL.

Far too often to be coincidental, images (usually text images) I see in my dreams are later seen IRL.

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nah, usually IRC-based.

My entire life. ;)


My experiences once again picked up a few weeks ago when I heard scratching on my bed.. Problem is, no one was home. So I was like, "Hmm, that is weird" I got up, went to the bathroom, and then went to get a drink. I was sitting on the couch drinking some water, when dishes just flew off the counter. They were not on the edge or anything, because it was a plate with knives on it. I'm not absent minded enough to just set something like that on the edge. And I didn't knock them off, as I didn't walk near them, nor touch them, and I was sitting when they came down crashing. So that caused me to leap in fear over the couch. After a few moments i gathered them up and placed them in the sink, and then the common "haunting" thing happened to me, the power in the apt started going crazy. This is the one constant in every situation I have been in with supernatural events. So, I turned off the breaker to my apt, just so that nothing could happen. So what happened then? My toilet began to flush at random intervals. So I had to go in there and fiddle with that. So finally, about 4 am, i got back to bed, and then a soda can in my room went flying and hit the wall. By that point I put on my headphone and hid under the covers. Well, a few days later when my roomies got back, I relayed the events to them. The next morning I slept in past my classes, and my roomies were at theirs. Well, I had a sleep paralysis type of event happen to me, where there was this figure in a dark cloak that was choking me and then I guess I passed out, and then woke back up and no one was around. So, I left the apt and had lunch and came back and told my roomies about it, and both of them said they both had dreams about a man in a black cloak watching them or threatening them.

It has been a few weeks since that all happened, but I still feel uneasy about the events. Its the worst I've ever faced in my long life experience with the paranormal.I had a phase like this. Thankfully it's not much of an issue these days.
Your spiritual pursuits directly correlate with this, you probably already know.