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Favorite Star Trek Race!

Naliitr
26-04-2006, 14:18
Ahh, yet another meaningless poll meant to waste time. Anyways, WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE STAR TREK RACE?!?!?! Poll to come with big races.
Tichakai
26-04-2006, 14:22
I'm a Borg fan. I love their voices and I love their supiriority and style
Kzord
26-04-2006, 14:28
The trouble with the Borg is that they can never enjoy the sense of fear and futility they inspire.
Huntaer
26-04-2006, 14:28
Borg.
Revasser
26-04-2006, 14:34
Bajorans!

Vedec Bariel is hot.
Naliitr
26-04-2006, 14:35
What's with the obsession with the Borg? They aren't all THAT cool, you know.
Bodies Without Organs
26-04-2006, 14:36
Other: Kzinti.
Kyronea
26-04-2006, 14:38
Well...lesse here.

Vulcans are incredibly intellectual, yet their emotions are so strong they must repress them. Repressing one's emotions is a bad thing, so that's a minus. Not that I'm saying you should let your emotions rule your lives, but it's one thing to repress some anger and another to repress everything!

Romulans allow emotions to rule their lives and, while intelligent and cunning, are also rather...cloak and daggerish. I don't like that. So no.

Klingons have a rich warrior based culture that, in retrospect, is quite similar to that of Norse culture. That said, they tend to annoy me.

Ferengi are always portrayed as over the top capitalists who are goofy. I hate the goofyness. No.

Borg: Next Generation Borg were cool. But Voyager killed it.

Trill: Symbiotic life with hosts that are hot approximately 95% of the time. But then, that's just the upper class of society, and the rest are denied symbionts. I DON"T LIKE SUCH DISCRIMINATION, THANK YOU.

Cardassians: So poorly treated. Always like subpar Romulans, except more cruel and sadistic. Why can't we ever see a nice Cardassian? The only nice one we ever saw was Ziyal, and she was half-Bajoran.

Speaking of Bajorans: Like with the Klingons, an incredibly rich culture...but centered around a freaking RELIGION. Sheesh. And the Prophets are wormhole aliens, not gods, okay?! Get that through your skulls.

...so..actually...I guess I'd have to say humans. The others all annoy me in some way or another.
The Mindset
26-04-2006, 14:41
I like the Klingons, but only when their society is portrayed outwith the view of the Federation.
Kzord
26-04-2006, 14:44
What I don't get is how the vulcans claim to have no emotions. If you had no emotions, you would have no desires, fears, drives, etc. If you woke up without emotions one day, you'd just lie in bed, not desiring to get up and do anything, nor fearing the consequences.

If you've seen the film Serenity you ought to know what I mean.
Kyronea
26-04-2006, 14:46
What I don't get is how the vulcans claim to have no emotions. If you had no emotions, you would have no desires, fears, drives, etc. If you woke up without emotions one day, you'd just lie in bed, not desiring to get up and do anything, nor fearing the consequences.
They actually never say anything of the kind. It's a common misconception, among both people in the Star Trek universe and outside the Star Trek universe. They REPRESS their emotions. Mainly because they are so incredibly strong. Watch "Amok Time" from the Original Series to see Spock going through Pon-farr. You'll see just how powerful Vulcan emotions are.
Naliitr
26-04-2006, 14:47
What I don't get is how the vulcans claim to have no emotions. If you had no emotions, you would have no desires, fears, drives, etc. If you woke up without emotions one day, you'd just lie in bed, not desiring to get up and do anything, nor fearing the consequences.

If you've seen the film Serenity you ought to know what I mean.
No, they just simply repress them considerably. So they have minimal emotions. And you might have got having no emotions mixed up with having no ability to lie.
Big Jim P
26-04-2006, 14:49
Gorn
Rambhutan
26-04-2006, 14:50
Species 8472
Chadderson
26-04-2006, 14:55
Borg: Next Generation Borg were cool. But Voyager killed it.

I agree completely... ESPECIALLY after First Contact... The writers used the Queen WAY too much after the first glimpse of her in FC... It was like every damn ship had it's own Queen and it really took away from the singlemindedness of the Borg... And the writers of Voyager show too many flaws in the Collective to keep up the fearfulness that they had up through FC... Let's line them all up and shoot them... :mp5:
Kzord
26-04-2006, 14:57
I know that what they really do is repress their emotions, but I'm sure I've heard the claim that they don't have them. Sounds like they're in denial or something.
Unified Sith
26-04-2006, 15:02
The best race is obviously the Galactic Empire.
Naliitr
26-04-2006, 15:03
The best race is obviously the Galactic Empire.
That's not Star Trek, and it isn't a race. Get out of here now, thread-jacker.
Kyronea
26-04-2006, 15:03
I know that what they really do is repress their emotions, but I'm sure I've heard the claim that they don't have them. Sounds like they're in denial or something.
Probably a human or other non-Vulcan said it. Or maybe a Vulcan did say it. I dunno. I've seen probably about ~80% of all Star Trek episodes and I don't remember a Vulcan ever claiming to actually have no emotions. I do remember an occasional instance of one correcting this misinterpretation.

Then again, my memory has been failing me a lot lately, so what do I know?
Sskiss
26-04-2006, 15:06
I've always liked the Gorn. They were in one episode in the original ST series called "Arena" which portrayed them (with the special effects of the day) rather well.
Bodies Without Organs
26-04-2006, 15:08
I've always liked the Gorn. They were in one episode in the original ST series called "Arena" which portrayed them (with the special effects of the day) rather well.

They also made a brief reappearance in an episode of Enterprise, all CGI'ed up.
Cataduanes
26-04-2006, 15:10
Cardassians!!
Khadgar
26-04-2006, 15:59
Trill, Let's face it, talking to someone who'd been alive for 250 years, been both male and female, and had such a wide array of experience would be incredible.
Ilie
26-04-2006, 16:08
Trills, hands down. I want to make marks all along the sides of my body with a permanent marker.
Avropolis
26-04-2006, 16:13
Betazoid.

C'mon telepathy is cool.
Potarius
26-04-2006, 16:14
Betazoid.

C'mon telepathy is cool.

Not so much a race as a genetic "bonus". But yeah, they are cool.
Stevid
26-04-2006, 16:15
BAH!! Your crazy..."Q" is easily the BEST alien dude ever. He is quite literally a God in his own right. Able to do ANYTHING just by clicking his fingers!!

I'm no avid Star Trek fan by a long shot. But i enough about it to know that "Q" and all the other ones, can kick this universe's arse form here to the next dimension.

Either "Q" or the "8472", but whatever.
Ilie
26-04-2006, 16:17
BAH!! Your crazy..."Q" is easily the BEST alien dude ever. He is quite literally a God in his own right. Able to do ANYTHING just by clicking his fingers!!

I'm no avid Star Trek fan by a long shot. But i enough about it to know that "Q" and all the other ones, can kick this universe's arse form here to the next dimension.

Either "Q" or the "8472", but whatever.

Q is great, but is it a race? After all, he made Vash a Q and she was human. Am I right? I may be a little off on that.
Stevid
26-04-2006, 16:19
Q is great, but is it a race? After all, he made Vash a Q and she was human. Am I right? I may be a little off on that.

Good point, but if the right to be a "Q" is earnt, then how did the first "Q" come into being. A question we probably won't know the answer to, but willing to speculate.

EDIT: Cmdr. Riker was a "Q" for a few days in the first season as well.
Ilie
26-04-2006, 16:21
Good point, but if the right to be a "Q" is earnt, then how did the first "Q" come into being. A question we probably won't know the answer to, but willing to speculate.

EDIT: Cmdr. Riker was a "Q" for a few days in the first season as well.

Nice. Well, I suppose that maybe somebody evolved like crazy and ended up as Q, and then that guy could choose who he wanted to join him.

There's been speculation that Q (the main guy we know as Q) is so fascinated with humans because he can see that they may end up evolving beyond even Q.
Stevid
26-04-2006, 16:23
Nice. Well, I suppose that maybe somebody evolved like crazy and ended up as Q, and then that guy could choose who he wanted to join him.

There's been speculation that Q (the main guy we know as Q) is so fascinated with humans because he can see that they may end up evolving beyond even Q.

wish i were a Q........ :(
Kyronea
26-04-2006, 16:26
The Q are most assuredly a race: we see this in several episodes of Voyager. Actually, the first true instance of it would be "Deja Q," a TNG episode, in which Q lost his powers and was turned into a human. Another Q was seen.

Vash was never actually granted any Q powers. She was merely teleported around BY Q for a while.

As for Commander Riker, that was a temporary granting of power, not an actual transformation. He was still human. If he had actually been Q...let's just say he probably wouldn't be able to remember anything that happened while he was due to a human's inability to comprehend the experience of a much more evolved being.
Letila
26-04-2006, 17:13
Species 8472 was pretty cool. They could blow up planets with only a dozen ships and such. The Borg started out pretty cool, but ended up rather wimpy by the end of Voyager.
Utracia
26-04-2006, 17:39
...so..actually...I guess I'd have to say humans. The others all annoy me in some way or another.

The actual idea that humans would ever come up with some peaceful, perfect utopian society doesn't annoy you? That humans can now do no wrong? Ridiculous.

And attacking the Bajorans religion is just disrespectful. They can worship whatever they like. After seeing plenty of DS9 episodes you really can't blame them.
Kyronea
26-04-2006, 17:46
The actual idea that humans would ever come up with some peaceful, perfect utopian society doesn't annoy you? That humans can now do no wrong? Ridiculous.

And attacking the Bajorans religion is just disrespectful. They can worship whatever they like. After seeing plenty of DS9 episodes you really can't blame them.
Why would it annoy me that humans have come up with a utopia?

As for Bajorans...grah, just me being anti-religious again. My apologies.
Utracia
26-04-2006, 17:59
Why would it annoy me that humans have come up with a utopia?

As for Bajorans...grah, just me being anti-religious again. My apologies.

Thats ok. ;)

Star Trek is fantasy but I could never stop rolling my eyes whenever someone brought up how humans put away their differences and created the perfect society. The Federation has some ridiculous peaceful policy that would never happen. Hell, if the Federation had a backbone there would have been situations where things could have gone better for them.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
26-04-2006, 18:01
From the poll, I'd have to go with Romulans.

But I like a lot of the minor races too like the Breen, the Edo.

And Bajorans are the race I like the LEAST. Come on, religious nutjobs...terrorists...do we see any corrolation here? True, there were decent ones, but Kai Wynn is a little too OBL for me.
DrunkenDove
26-04-2006, 18:08
Species 8472 was pretty cool. They could blow up planets with only a dozen ships and such. The Borg started out pretty cool, but ended up rather wimpy by the end of Voyager.

They're far too godmoddish for my liking. Same goes with Q.
Khadgar
26-04-2006, 18:11
That's why Q rarely directly involved themselves with mortal affairs beyond just playing.

The Borg don't really make any sense, why just send one cube? I mean honestly, they have trillions if not quadrillions of drones. Surely they could spare a dozen ships to go wipe out humanity.
Lacadaemon
26-04-2006, 19:02
The klingons were the only interesting characters in star trek. But their name is terrible, so I refuse to vote for them.

The Borg are just a second rate rip off of the cybermen, without the intelligence or the interesting back story.

It's true that Ezri Dax once kissed Kira Nerys - in a parralel universe thingy inevitably - but I refuse to vote for either race based upon such a cheap ratings ploy.

I suppose I'll have to go with those green slave women people.
Ilie
26-04-2006, 23:08
The Q are most assuredly a race: we see this in several episodes of Voyager. Actually, the first true instance of it would be "Deja Q," a TNG episode, in which Q lost his powers and was turned into a human. Another Q was seen.

Vash was never actually granted any Q powers. She was merely teleported around BY Q for a while.

As for Commander Riker, that was a temporary granting of power, not an actual transformation. He was still human. If he had actually been Q...let's just say he probably wouldn't be able to remember anything that happened while he was due to a human's inability to comprehend the experience of a much more evolved being.

Thanks for the information! In that case, I do like the race Q, but I think the Trill race is still the most fun for several reasons:

- they are very very complex beings involving symbiotes and multiples awareness of past lives
- they don't require major makeup transformation for the screen, just the cute dot patterns on the sides of their face and wherever else they're supposed to be that their clothes wouldn't cover
- they don't seem to have many problems such as civil war, unawareness of their own emotions, overly violent temperaments, enslaving other races, dying out because they're clones themselves too much, wanting money all the time and being short and ugly, etc. They still have the occasional crazy guy, but come on, don't we all?
Teh_pantless_hero
26-04-2006, 23:17
That's why Q rarely directly involved themselves with mortal affairs beyond just playing.

The Borg don't really make any sense, why just send one cube? I mean honestly, they have trillions if not quadrillions of drones. Surely they could spare a dozen ships to go wipe out humanity.
And its not like they can't infect other ships with Borg technology. Hell, Borg arn't even a race.

Farscape had far better races.
Neo-Pangaea
26-04-2006, 23:36
Sheliak.
Rhursbourg
26-04-2006, 23:41
Bolians with there great master paln of taking over the Galaxy by being hairdressers
German Nightmare
27-04-2006, 00:12
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/borg.gif
One race to rule them all, one race to find them, one race to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
Resistance was futile. You have been assimilated!
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/borg2.gif

The Borg are the best 'cause they include every other race (except for a few they destroy or die trying!).
Saige Dragon
27-04-2006, 00:18
Oh Jesus, I voted and know I feel a little unclean and nerdish. Somebody hit me.
Very Evil Psychosis
27-04-2006, 00:29
The Borg were good before they were turned into a stale race that can only change by assimilation. And it's no longer even technology.
Popinjay
27-04-2006, 00:29
The best race would have to be the Scarens (Farscape).

But in the Star Trek world I and any one else can't go past the brilliance of Luxana Troi (Majel Barrett) and her appearances in TNG. That race has a great sense of supuriority which is contrastedf greatly with the Luxana and Counc. Troi arguing scenes.
Zatarack
27-04-2006, 00:34
I liked the Ferengi. You know the kind that attacked the Stargazer, not the wimps they now are.
Shiroma
27-04-2006, 00:34
Humans are by far the best. They include ALL the other races. Remember, star trek was created by humans. Notice how all the races have their own characteristics and humans don't? (Eg klingons obsesed with honor and violence). Each race is a part of the human race portraed as another race. Romulans=sneaky Vulcans=Introerted and unemotional It's all something we can relate to ourselves. Because we have all these traits in varying intensity. Humans rule because without them, the other races wouldn't exist!
Steelwall
27-04-2006, 00:38
Romulans. You gotta love the machiavellianism. And the really big warbirds they used in the Dominion War.
Mooseica
27-04-2006, 01:14
Humans. Just for Jean-Luc Picard. Best damn Trek character ever, bar none.
Knights Kyre Elaine
27-04-2006, 01:33
That puddle of black goo that ate Tasha Yar and then threw her up dead while it taunted the away party.
Pintsize
27-04-2006, 01:39
Trill. For one reason and one reason only. I think those dots are damn sexy.
Crossman
27-04-2006, 01:39
Borgs make me happy.
Crossman
27-04-2006, 01:40
Romulans. You gotta love the machiavellianism. And the really big warbirds they used in the Dominion War.

True. They would Machiavelli proud.
Bolol
27-04-2006, 01:41
I love the Borg, I really do. Ultimate sci-fi villains without a doubt.

But my favorite need to be the Klingons. I love their culture and how they combine the honor of feudal Japanese Bushido, with Nordic Viking revelry. A beautiful dichotomy and it's freakin' awesome.

In a CLOSE second are the Borg, and then the Ferengi (You gotta love those guys, especially in DS9).
Anti-Social Darwinism
27-04-2006, 01:42
No, they just simply repress them considerably. So they have minimal emotions. And you might have got having no emotions mixed up with having no ability to lie.

Where do you get the "no abililty to lie" aspect? Vulcans can and have lied, cheated and prevaricated with considerable skill and enthusiasm, especially when Pon-Far or their concept of Vulcan superiority was involved.
Taredas
27-04-2006, 06:04
Out of the Star Trek races... I'll Q up my answer. However, I've never really watched too much of any Star Trek series, so my response doesn't really count.

IMO, Babylon 5 and Stargate have much better races (see Minbari and Alterans for details).
Delator
27-04-2006, 06:14
Ha! I get the first vote for these guys...

The Dominion, and all it's associated races. Changelings, Vorta, and of course the Jem'Hadar.

Picking one, I would say the Jem'Hadar. I liked the fifth and sixth season DS9 stories which focused on their loyalty to the Founders, and their Spartan-like existence of military service.

EDIT: The Jem'Hadar...and the Lurians (Morn's species) :p
Lt_Cody
27-04-2006, 06:32
Humans
Vulcans
Romulans
Klingons
Ferengi
Borg
Trill
Cardassians
Bajorans
Other

I'll go with Other and choose the Andorians, about the only Trek race that isn't a one-dimensional characature (Space Vikings, Space Capitalists, ect.)
Vellia
27-04-2006, 21:55
I would have to go with the Betazoids (nonfrightening telepathy!) or the Benzites (Haven't you always wanted to look like a catfish?).
Megaloria
27-04-2006, 21:56
Wookiees.
Negligentia
27-04-2006, 22:00
Dammit, someone beat me to the non-sequitur answer.

But, still, Daleks. Can't beat the Daleks.
Khadgar
27-04-2006, 22:06
I would have to go with the Betazoids (nonfrightening telepathy!) or the Benzites (Haven't you always wanted to look like a catfish?).

Benzites don't look particularly fishy. Antedeans however, giant fishes!


http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Antedean
Vellia
27-04-2006, 22:08
Benzites don't look particularly fishy. Antedeans however, giant fishes!


http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Antedean

Point taken, but I still think that Benzites look like catfish. And I wouldn't mind being one, though that breathing contraption might become a little annoying for a while.
IL Ruffino
27-04-2006, 22:11
Borgs are sexy.
Frangland
27-04-2006, 22:17
Klingons -- the men are men, and so are the women. hehe (just like UW-LaCrosse)
The Coral Islands
27-04-2006, 22:19
I prefer the Romulans.

I would prefer them more if the movie Nemesis had not existed, since I think it got everything wrong with the whole relationship between Romulus and Remus. Ah, well. I still like the idea of Vulcans who embrace their passions.

There are so many fascinating species from the show, though. I always liked the Breen, even though I know they got a bad rep on DS9 apparently. Still, I feel I have to like them as a Canadian, and as the only race other than Humans (And really, they do not count) to be in both Star Trek and Star Wars, I think they are special.

On a semi-related topic, there was a news reporter on the other night who had a wrinkly nose and looked very much like a Bajoran.

Trill. For one reason and one reason only. I think those dots are damn sexy. I totally agree!

Bolians with there great master paln of taking over the Galaxy by being hairdressers They were cool, good ol' barbers and plumbers. I like the Andorians, too. I guess being bright blue is just cool.

P.S.: Why weren't the Hirogen on the list? They were cool, too.

P.P.S.: Sorry for seeming disjointed, there is just so much to say on the topic! :-)
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
27-04-2006, 22:48
Words could describe my favorite...but a picture is worth a lot more


http://www.sherylfranklin.com/images/trek/women/classic/vina.jpg
Iansisle
27-04-2006, 22:53
I'd have to say I'd be an Efrosian (http://www.senatodellerazze.org/DbRazze/pics/efrosiani.jpg). Always thought I'd look awesome with a funny little mustache.

If I had to pick from the options on the poll, though, i must confess that I spent most of DS9 wishing I was Gul Dukat.
Kzord
27-04-2006, 22:55
Words could describe my favorite...but a picture is worth a lot more




Ironically, green really isn't that attractive a colour...
Pure Metal
27-04-2006, 22:59
8472 pwn j00!!11!1


nah, i like humans :)
though romulans are cool if not for the haircuts...



edit: ooh, ooh... tribbles!! :D
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
27-04-2006, 23:07
Ironically, green really isn't that attractive a colour...
Bah what do you know. I think green is HOT!!!

Even though green is actually more of a soothing color. Alright, there are some cases where green isn't all that good, but its still my favorite color.
Kzord
27-04-2006, 23:20
Bah what do you know. I think green is HOT!!!

Even though green is actually more of a soothing color. Alright, there are some cases where green isn't all that good, but its still my favorite color.

I like the colour, just not for skin.
German Nightmare
27-04-2006, 23:31
Bah what do you know. I think green is HOT!!!

Even though green is actually more of a soothing color. Alright, there are some cases where green isn't all that good, but its still my favorite color.
So do I. And Orion girls are totally hot hot hot :p:p:p

Then again, I also like the Andorians :D:D:D
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/GAndorian3.jpg
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
27-04-2006, 23:46
I like the colour, just not for skin.
You're not discriminating against people with green skin are you?

What's next, are you going to say that people who are black on the right side and white on the left side of their face are better than people who are just the same but have the colors on the opposite side.

:p
Kleptonis
28-04-2006, 00:42
Wow, I just surprised myself - A few months ago I only knew the humans and borg well (humans for obvious reasons, borg from internet jokes) and had a vague idea that "those dudes with the wrinkly foreheads" were Klingons. Now I can easily identify at least half (probably more) of those.
Dobbsworld
28-04-2006, 00:46
It's a toss-up between Tholians and Andorians, from where I'm sitting.
Kyronea
28-04-2006, 00:51
Benzites don't look particularly fishy. Antedeans however, giant fishes!


http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Antedean
One of those is someone from Fleetwood Mac. I think it's the drummer.
Sdaeriji
28-04-2006, 00:53
The Jem'Hadar.
Verdigroth
28-04-2006, 08:15
I vote other notably the Gorn who would have stomped all over ever other race if it hadn't been for Kirk. I wish Kirk would have taken out the Klingons so we could see Next Gen Gorn
Straughn
28-04-2006, 08:19
Can i chime in "the Edo"?
I think the implications are rather transparent. :fluffle:
Saxnot
28-04-2006, 08:20
Klingons. Easily. They're like... a mix between vikings and mongols. BUT IN SPACE! :D:p
Straughn
28-04-2006, 08:42
I vote other notably the Gorn who would have stomped all over ever other race if it hadn't been for Kirk. I wish Kirk would have taken out the Klingons so we could see Next Gen Gorn
Admit it, you'd have picked the "Tribbles" for the same reason i picked the "Edo". :fluffle:
Divine Imaginary Fluff
28-04-2006, 11:53
If you had no emotions, you would have no desires, fears, drives, etc. If you woke up without emotions one day, you'd just lie in bed, not desiring to get up and do anything, nor fearing the consequences.You would have no fears, correct. But you would still have plenty of desires; those aren't limited to emotions. There are various levels of them, and emotional desires are just one of them. I have experienced complete emotionlessness for a few days, (and near complete emotionlessness before they completely faded away, and at first when they slowly began to return. this was all about a year ago when I had a truly numbing depression) and while there is less to motivate you, there is still plenty left, for example purely intellectual desires. Examples of intellectual desires would be: being opposed to something, wanting to solve a problem, having any kind of goal, etc. Those exist independently from emotions. Emotions merely serve as a kind of extra motivation, just like physical pain and pleasure.

As for physical desires, lacking emotions doesn't in any way impair those either; for example, you would still get hungry, and enjoy tasty food. (altought the enjoyment would be more short-term, as it wouldn't be combined with emotional joy) You would also react just as strongly to physical pain.

And you would still try to avoid consequences that you realize would result in physical pain, deprive you of pleasure, or prevent you from achieving whatever goals you have.

Emotions aren't that important; you can live just fine without them. Life is just more bland. An improvement compared to emotional pain, and a loss compared to emotional pleasure.
Hobbesianland
28-04-2006, 13:02
I'd have to say Other: Hirogen as well. These guys were awesome... They were at least 7-8 feet tall, looked freaky, and could fight like there's no tomorrow.

Honourable mention to the Jem'Hadar: an honourable, tragic species who were quite awesome in their own right. They were introduced by doing a kamikaze into a Galaxy class starship. Pretty big statement right there!

Species 8472 was cool too but they weren't used in the best way... but honestly, among VGR fans here, who wasn't blown away in the very first episode they were used in with the opening image of the Borg cube doing its thing and then bam... one beam, two beams, three beams and it's destroyed in like 5 seconds???

Borg: Next Generation Borg were cool. But Voyager killed it.
The way I see it, TNG killed the Borg but VGR brought them back. The 2nd and 3rd season TNG Borg were amazing, but the thing with Hugh and Lore (6th-7th season) was pitiful. One of the worst things TNG did (didn't do) was this unstoppable Borg who gave up after one attempt. (Final Contact was a great movie, but somehow the Borg don't strike me as quitters.)

VGR didn't use the Borg perfectly, of course. The Queen was used too much (dammit there shouldn't even be a Borg tyrant!), but I watched VGR beginning to end and like most who did, it was just amazing to see Borg space, the Borg home, and little Voyager trying to get through.

The other great thing was the improved cinematics and tech that made the Borg's costumes look better. The difference between, for instance, the Borg energy shield is awesome, from painful in TNG to really quite awesome in VGR.
Hampster Squared
28-04-2006, 13:26
Mmm, tribbles!

I would pick them, but then are they a race or something cute and furry that gets stepped on? Cute things get run over by cars (or spaceships I suppose).
German Nightmare
28-04-2006, 14:28
Mmm, tribbles!

I would pick them, but then are they a race or something cute and furry that gets stepped on? Cute things get run over by cars (or spaceships I suppose).
Just don't feed them after midnight. No, wait: That's a different species. It's Tribbles that you shouldn't feed at all ;)
Smunkeeville
28-04-2006, 14:37
difficult question, indeed.

I like the Romulans, they are interesting, oh, and the borg, downright scary, also interesting....


I really like the Klingons, and the Vulcans, and you know the Ferengi are hilarious........ Betazoids are interesting, with the naked weddings and all....

hmm......Andorians!!!!!!!!


I really have no idea who is best.
Naliitr
28-04-2006, 14:58
Where do you get the "no abililty to lie" aspect? Vulcans can and have lied, cheated and prevaricated with considerable skill and enthusiasm, especially when Pon-Far or their concept of Vulcan superiority was involved.
What? But I heard from Data on TNG that Vulcans can't lie... Or was it some other race? Crap...
Smunkeeville
28-04-2006, 15:05
What? But I heard from Data on TNG that Vulcans can't lie... Or was it some other race? Crap...
Vulcans can lie, they don't like to. Spock lied a few times, but then he was half human, so that may have had something to do with it.

Saying Vulcans can't lie, isn't like when we say Data cannot say "can't" although he did once, but it wasn't really him.
Naliitr
28-04-2006, 15:07
Vulcans can lie, they don't like to. Spock lied a few times, but then he was half human, so that may have had something to do with it.

Saying Vulcans can't lie, isn't like when we say Data cannot say "can't" although he did once, but it wasn't really him.
You know what I mean. Data can't use abbreviations, or whatever those are called with the apostrophe in them. I don't care to learn every english thing. He said "Can not". I just used "Can't" because I use "Can't". And I just saw that episode yesterday, when Riker was captured by that alien so that the alien would have company. Future Imperfect, I believe the name of the episode was.
Smunkeeville
28-04-2006, 15:09
You know what I mean. Data can't use abbreviations, or whatever those are called with the apostrophe in them. I don't care to learn every english thing. He said "Can not". I just used "Can't" because I use "Can't".
contractions.

the way I remember is it's like you contracted the word and all the extra letters fell out. ;)

(yeah, I make up stupid stuff in my head to remember things, so sue me.... or don't*)


*do not
Ilie
28-04-2006, 15:43
contractions.

the way I remember is it's* like you contracted the word and all the extra letters fell out. ;)

(yeah, I make up stupid stuff in my head to remember things, so sue me.... or don't*)


*do not

* it is
Smunkeeville
28-04-2006, 15:45
* it is
thanks. ;)

I tried to explain to one of my teachers once that "ain't" is a word and it's the contraction for "am not", and that people misuse it a lot.

I ain't going to school (correct)

She ain't going to school (incorrect)


yeah, she didn't (did not) buy my explaination, and gave me a failing grade anyway.
Ilie
28-04-2006, 15:47
thanks. ;)

I tried to explain to one of my teachers once that "ain't" is a word and it's the contraction for "am not", and that people misuse it a lot.

I ain't going to school (correct)

She ain't going to school (incorrect)


yeah, she didn't (did not) buy my explaination, and gave me a failing grade anyway.

Actually, I had a teacher that did say that "ain't" is a correct contraction and it's gotten a bad rap. He never said it though.
BogMarsh
28-04-2006, 15:54
Romulans. Check out the uniforms, AND the chicks!
Verdigroth
29-04-2006, 09:33
Admit it, you'd have picked the "Tribbles" for the same reason i picked the "Edo". :fluffle:
Who are the Edo...your knowledge of things Trek surpasses mine own. Which isn't saying much actually.
Jerusalas
29-04-2006, 09:37
Romulans.

Cloak and dagger. Cloaking devices. Disruptors. Massive warships utilizing barely understood technologies. Highly honorable (after their own fashion). Funky uniforms. Oh, and they were smart enough to put a lightyear between themselves and those stinking, imperialistic Humans. :p

And despite having been around since TOS, they're still one of the most mysterious species in Star Trek. (Not as much as the Breen, mind you.)
The Phoenix Milita
29-04-2006, 09:55
the one on voyager where they hate telepaths and keep boarding voyager too look for telepaths
Most worlds
29-04-2006, 10:44
The Romulans... They'll overthrow starfleet someday:gundge:

and warbirds are the most beautifull ships in the gallacy!
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
29-04-2006, 17:00
thanks. ;)

I tried to explain to one of my teachers once that "ain't" is a word and it's the contraction for "am not", and that people misuse it a lot.

I ain't going to school (correct)

She ain't going to school (incorrect)


yeah, she didn't (did not) buy my explaination, and gave me a failing grade anyway.
I've seen it in dictionaries, so it must be a word
Cccp1943
29-04-2006, 17:17
cardassians vulcans and the borg are my 3 favorite races
Tomzilla
29-04-2006, 17:26
Gorn. Loved them in TOS.
Straughn
30-04-2006, 05:16
Who are the Edo...your knowledge of things Trek surpasses mine own. Which isn't saying much actually.
Hey, who was the one calling me about "How William Shatner Changed the World?" ..
AND
his biography on A&E?
Wait, perhaps the first one was me. That fateful night of pizza grease.
But the second was definitely yours. I remember since i posted on the then-current ST/SW thread about his little stint on SNL. That got a mod to delete my post.
I can't see how you don't remember the Edo. Hot blondes in tight suits. Mmmrhmmm. And Wesley being a doofus and almost having terminal corporal punishment inflicted on him.
All in all, a great episode. Not quite enough sex, though. Even for Wesley.
Kyronea
30-04-2006, 05:21
Hey, who was the one calling me about "How William Shatner Changed the World?" ..
AND
his biography on A&E?
Wait, perhaps the first one was me. That fateful night of pizza grease.
But the second was definitely yours. I remember since i posted on the then-current ST/SW thread about his little stint on SNL. That got a mod to delete my post.
I can't see how you don't remember the Edo. Hot blondes in tight suits. Mmmrhmmm. And Wesley being a doofus and almost having terminal corporal punishment inflicted on him.
All in all, a great episode. Not quite enough sex, though. Even for Wesley.
Great? Hah. It was somewhat poor, like much of season one of TNG. But, that is my opinion.
Straughn
30-04-2006, 05:23
Great? Hah. It was somewhat poor, like much of season one of TNG. But, that is my opinion.
It was great in a few senses ... flesh, a godlike entity that Picard could only barely rationalise with, an ending where the Fed had to step away to maintain dignity and respect, flesh, and oh yeah, mortal peril for Wesley.
What's not great about that?
Kyronea
30-04-2006, 05:25
It was great in a few senses ... flesh, a godlike entity that Picard could only barely rationalise with, an ending where the Fed had to step away to maintain dignity and respect, flesh, and oh yeah, mortal peril for Wesley.
What's not great about that?
...you know, I actually liked Wesley. Then again, I also liked Naomi Wildman, Neelix(he was awesome in many respects. I'd love to try his cooking. Ya know, if he were real, which he isn't.), and pretty much any other character that typically earns hatred from a lot of Trekkies.

It just didn't strike my fancy though, hence why I don't think it was all that great.
Straughn
30-04-2006, 05:30
...you know, I actually liked Wesley. Then again, I also liked Naomi Wildman, Neelix(he was awesome in many respects. I'd love to try his cooking. Ya know, if he were real, which he isn't.), and pretty much any other character that typically earns hatred from a lot of Trekkies.

It just didn't strike my fancy though, hence why I don't think it was all that great.
To be fair, the plot line as nudged considerably. From that show, i'd have to call for "Contagion", "Who Watches The Watchers?", "The Best of Both Worlds, Pt I / II", "Unnatural Selection", "The Dauphin", and a few others ... the one with Riva/Chorus ... the one with Robin Lefler *grrr*, the one with the alasomorph, the sequel to "I, Borg", and probably plenty i don't need to waste bandwidth with.
As for Voyager, there were a few, but not as many.
Smunkeeville
30-04-2006, 05:33
...you know, I actually liked Wesley.
blasphemy!

oh, wait though did I mention that I hate Wesley?
Kyronea
30-04-2006, 05:34
To be fair, the plot line as nudged considerably. From that show, i'd have to call for "Contagion", "Who Watches The Watchers?", "The Best of Both Worlds, Pt I / II", "Unnatural Selection", "The Dauphin", and a few others ... the one with Riva/Chorus ... the one with Robin Lefler *grrr*, the one with the alasomorph, the sequel to "I, Borg", and probably plenty i don't need to waste bandwidth with.
As for Voyager, there were a few, but not as many.
I suppose. Of course, there were quite a few good ones from both. "Parallels" "The Inner Light" "Tapestry" are just a few from TNG. As for Voyager "Distant Origin" and "Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy" are two of my absolute favorites. Especially that second one. Hilarious without being crude, essentially. And it features the Doctor heavily. Robert Picardo is incredible. I will ALWAYS be a Robert Picardo fan. Always.
Verdigroth
30-04-2006, 07:47
for those wesley lovers there is always wilwheaton.com...I think that is right his little website for fans...thank you for telling me who they were...I had forgotten all about them.
Straughn
30-04-2006, 08:02
for those wesley lovers there is always wilwheaton.com...I think that is right his little website for fans...thank you for telling me who they were...I had forgotten all about them.
So do you have a light appreciative summary of "Jane White is Sick & Twisted"?
I love the owl part. You know what i'm talking about.
That, and Colin Mochrie and the cucumber. Classic!
Straughn
30-04-2006, 08:06
I suppose. Of course, there were quite a few good ones from both. "Parallels" "The Inner Light" "Tapestry" are just a few from TNG. As for Voyager "Distant Origin" and "Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy" are two of my absolute favorites. Especially that second one. Hilarious without being crude, essentially. And it features the Doctor heavily. Robert Picardo is incredible. I will ALWAYS be a Robert Picardo fan. Always.
Ooh! Tapestry was VERY good. I liked that one especially. Which was "The Inner Light" and "Parallels"?

Picardo is quite funny. He was up here and the local radio did a killer interview with him.
He's better in person, just like Patrick Stewart. Totally vital, charming people (in their way, of course).

Distant Origin the 8472 one? I liked their idea too but it got muddled too easily. Tinker Tenor was pretty funny too.
JiangGuo
30-04-2006, 09:21
Romulans - back-stabbing, ship-cloaking & Pearl-Harboring ROMULANS!!!
JiangGuo
30-04-2006, 09:23
All those who love the Borg are mindless drones. (Pun intended)
Kyronea
30-04-2006, 18:09
Ooh! Tapestry was VERY good. I liked that one especially. Which was "The Inner Light" and "Parallels"?

Picardo is quite funny. He was up here and the local radio did a killer interview with him.
He's better in person, just like Patrick Stewart. Totally vital, charming people (in their way, of course).

Distant Origin the 8472 one? I liked their idea too but it got muddled too easily. Tinker Tenor was pretty funny too.
"The Inner Light" was where Picard was zapped by a thousand year old probe and lived the life of a man on a doomed world, though this summary does not do it justice in the least.

"Parallels" was the whole alternate universe shebang, with Worf segwaying into quite a few left and right.

"Distant Origin" was NOT the 8472 one. It had to do with the Voth and the like.

I suggest you go to www.ex-astris-scientia.org and check out all that stuff.

I do wish I could meet Stewart and Picardo in person. I don't see it happening anytime soon, though.
Straughn
01-05-2006, 04:44
"The Inner Light" was where Picard was zapped by a thousand year old probe and lived the life of a man on a doomed world, though this summary does not do it justice in the least.Yes! Arguably one of the best of ALL the series. Agreed.

"Parallels" was the whole alternate universe shebang, with Worf segwaying into quite a few left and right.Erm, what season?

"Distant Origin" was NOT the 8472 one. It had to do with the Voth and the like.I didn't see that one.


I suggest you go to www.ex-astris-scientia.org and check out all that stuff.

I do wish I could meet Stewart and Picardo in person. I don't see it happening anytime soon, though.Depends on your travel schedule, i guess. Stewart would be a hard one, but consider the next X-Men flick - he's bound to show up at a convention somewhere. I don't know what Picardo's up to, although i'm somewhat convinced he's been in a movie since.

Thanks for the link. *bows*
Kyronea
01-05-2006, 05:50
Well, the furthest I'm likely to head anywhere anytime soon is Denver.

As for Parallels, that would be seventh season.
Straughn
01-05-2006, 05:55
Well, the furthest I'm likely to head anywhere anytime soon is Denver.Could be worse ..... you could be up here in AK.

As for Parallels, that would be seventh season.
That's why i didn't see it. My social life started taking over at the beginning of season 6.
Kyronea
01-05-2006, 06:02
Could be worse ..... you could be up here in AK.


That's why i didn't see it. My social life started taking over at the beginning of season 6.
Alaska? Ouch.

And that's what DVR satallite T.V. is for, silly.
Straughn
01-05-2006, 06:22
Alaska? Ouch.

And that's what DVR satallite T.V. is for, silly.
Ah, what suffices as a social life outside my computer social life, i suspect. ANd my coven of mosquitoes and moose.
Squornshelous
01-05-2006, 06:32
The Tholians! None can escape the Tholian web!

But yeah, I voted Borg.
Straughn
01-05-2006, 06:35
Disturbing news:
If i'm correct, i just watched Gates McFadden (Dr. Beverly Crusher) playing a pivotal role in a ... a...
Microsoft commercial!!!!!!!
:eek:
:eek:


Dickie Roberts, step aside!
Kyronea
01-05-2006, 06:38
Disturbing news:
If i'm correct, i just watched Gates McFadden (Dr. Beverly Crusher) playing a pivotal role in a ... a...
Microsoft commercial!!!!!!!
:eek:
:eek:


Dickie Roberts, step aside!
QUICK! Rewind, capture card, and Youtube that fjorker! We gotta confirm this.
Straughn
01-05-2006, 06:44
QUICK! Rewind, capture card, and Youtube that fjorker! We gotta confirm this.
Oh, if Microsoft is behind it, YOU BETTER BELIEVE it'll be on again. :(

I'm watching Kari Byron and crew on Mythbusters, 9:30-9:45 timeframe AK time S.Central.
I don't have TiVo or that kinda stuff, those devices cause too much heat, and i don't want my igloo to melt.