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ANZAC Day

Daistallia 2104
24-04-2006, 16:32
"And so now every April, I sit on my porch
And I watch the parade pass before me.
And I see my old comrades, how proudly they march,
Reviving old dreams of past glory,
And the old men march slowly, all bones stiff and sore,
They're tired old heroes from a forgotten war
And the young people ask "What are they marching for?"
And I ask meself the same question."

Take a moment today to remember ANZAC day today

http://www.trinity.wa.edu.au/plduffyrc/subjects/sose/austhist/anzac.htm
Hasty Tapioca Pudding
24-04-2006, 16:44
How cool would it be if Australia and NZ fought EACH OTHER in a war?

Well, except for the fact that NZ basically doesnt have a military...

it'd still be sweet though

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Harlesburg
25-04-2006, 01:22
How cool would it be if Australia and NZ fought EACH OTHER in a war?

Well, except for the fact that NZ basically doesnt have a military...

it'd still be sweet though

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Thanks for that man...
I went to the ANZAC Day parade in my Home Town about/at least 5,000 people turned out.
Damn it was cool.
Neu Leonstein
25-04-2006, 01:26
I'm getting paid double time today!

*waves Australian flag with teary eyes*
Harlesburg
25-04-2006, 01:28
I'm getting paid double time today!

*waves Australian flag with teary eyes*
I thought Howard was a Bad man?:p
Boonytopia
25-04-2006, 02:02
I'm going to the footy today, Collingwood V some shitty other team that hardly deserves to exist.

GO PIES!

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/04/24/1145861287796.html
Svalbardania
25-04-2006, 02:20
I'm going to the footy today, Collingwood V some shitty other team that hardly deserves to exist.

GO PIES!

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/04/24/1145861287796.html

That other team that hardly deserves to exist is gonna whop you. Even if we suck normally (like we do) we always pull out the stops for the ANZAC day match. Well, that's the plan anyway...

Bloody Lloyd. Much as I hate that man, we need him. And now he's gona and injured himself (AGAIN!). Bastard.
Macisikan
25-04-2006, 02:24
They shall not grow old,
As we who are left grow old,
Age shall not weary them,
Nor the years condemn,
At the going down of the sun,
And in the morning,
We shall remember them.

Lest we forget.
Tsaraine
25-04-2006, 04:41
*Cleans bits of troll out of teeth*

I went to the dawn parade in Christchurch this morning. Unfortunately, I'd have to say I was underwhelmed - the ceremony was a lot less moving than others I've been to (in Little River, of all places!). Not to mention that it was raining, so most of what I saw was umbrellas.

But all the same, it's good to do these sorts of things - it's about the only day I actually feel patriotic.

Peace on Earth, and goodwill between men!*

*And women, of course. I didn't coin the phrase.
Daistallia 2104
25-04-2006, 04:49
*Cleans bits of troll out of teeth*

I went to the dawn parade in Christchurch this morning. Unfortunately, I'd have to say I was underwhelmed - the ceremony was a lot less moving than others I've been to (in Little River, of all places!). Not to mention that it was raining, so most of what I saw was umbrellas.

But all the same, it's good to do these sorts of things - it's about the only day I actually feel patriotic.

Peace on Earth, and goodwill between men!*

*And women, of course. I didn't coin the phrase.

(thanks for the troll patrol)

And have a Tui for me.
Harlesburg
25-04-2006, 04:59
*Cleans bits of troll out of teeth*

I went to the dawn parade in Christchurch this morning. Unfortunately, I'd have to say I was underwhelmed - the ceremony was a lot less moving than others I've been to (in Little River, of all places!). Not to mention that it was raining, so most of what I saw was umbrellas.

But all the same, it's good to do these sorts of things - it's about the only day I actually feel patriotic.

Peace on Earth, and goodwill between men!*

*And women, of course. I didn't coin the phrase.
Yep, didn't The Square (or whatever you call it) get about 2,000 people?
The 23rd would be ashamed.
Monkeypimp
25-04-2006, 05:06
Its a shame about the weather today.
Harlesburg
25-04-2006, 05:10
Its a shame about the weather today.
Yeah, it is just God crying...

Er nice sig, what is Lo?:confused:
Monkeypimp
25-04-2006, 05:30
Yeah, it is just God crying...

Er nice sig, what is Lo?:confused:

It's 'lo' as in 'hello'
Tsaraine
25-04-2006, 05:33
Possibly a contraction of "Hello"?

As for the number of people, I didn't do a headcount but it's true that only about one third of the square or so was filled, maybe less.

One gets a bit tired of rain after a while, though - it's been raining now since midmorning yesterday. I would rather have snow.
Harlesburg
25-04-2006, 05:41
Ok...
I imagined you were going for the Lol but did a shoddy job.

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It was on the news or Maori TV this morning
What is rain if one is paying their respects?
Saint Jade
25-04-2006, 12:40
Lest We Forget.

I had a ceremony at school yesterday, so I didn't feel particularly obliged to get up at the crack of dawn today.
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 12:46
Its a shame about the weather today.

At least you didn't have Cyclone warning to cancel ANZAC day services.
Monkeypimp
25-04-2006, 12:49
At least you didn't have Cyclone warning to cancel ANZAC day services.


What ended up happening? Would it have been dangerous?
Squornshelous
25-04-2006, 12:52
So now I must play the part of the ignorant american:

I've never really heard much about ANZAC Day, but from what I've just seen on the link, it seems that, at least on the surface, and in spirit, it might be a bit similar to the American Pearl Harbor Day?
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 12:55
What ended up happening? Would it have been dangerous?

Well, a thing called Cyclone Monica hit the coast and self-destructed. In the end, wind upto 60kmph and lots of rain. Not dangerous but it was Cat 5 when it did hit the coast - God helped out and hit it with some cold air and it died. Could have been a lot worse.
Harlesburg
25-04-2006, 12:56
Monkeypimp can handle this one...
Or search for last years thread, bugging someone else is more fun though...
Monkeypimp
25-04-2006, 12:57
So now I must play the part of the ignorant american:

I've never really heard much about ANZAC Day, but from what I've just seen on the link, it seems that, at least on the surface, and in spirit, it might be a bit similar to the American Pearl Harbor Day?

ANZAC day was basically the first time NZ and Australian soldiers fought on a massive scale, with 10s of thousands dying over the course of the battle. It's kind of evolved into a general rememberance day for soldiers from NZ and aus who have fallen in battle.

Naturally, like most national days, the story has been done up a bit. For instance, Britian and France both lost more men in the same battle, whilst New Zealand lost more soldiers in other battles during the war. The Turks also find it somewhat amusing that we commemorate a battle we lost in such a big way.
The Beautiful Darkness
25-04-2006, 12:58
So now I must play the part of the ignorant american:

I've never really heard much about ANZAC Day, but from what I've just seen on the link, it seems that, at least on the surface, and in spirit, it might be a bit similar to the American Pearl Harbor Day?

Lol, I've never heard of Pearl Harbor Day, so that's a hard question for me to answer. But I'm guessing it might be somewhat different, as the ANZACs were involved in multiple battles, whereas Pearl Harbor (from my media biased vision) seems to be more of a single, devestating attack on one area...
Squornshelous
25-04-2006, 13:04
ANZAC day was basically the first time NZ and Australian soldiers fought on a massive scale, with 10s of thousands dying over the course of the battle. It's kind of evolved into a general rememberance day for soldiers from NZ and aus who have fallen in battle.

Naturally, like most national days, the story has been done up a bit. For instance, Britian and France both lost more men in the same battle, whilst New Zealand lost more soldiers in other battles during the war. The Turks also find it somewhat amusing that we commemorate a battle we lost in such a big way.

Ok, I see.


Lol, I've never heard of Pearl Harbor Day, so that's a hard question for me to answer. But I'm guessing it might be somewhat different, as the ANZACs were involved in multiple battles, whereas Pearl Harbor (from my media biased vision) seems to be more of a single, devestating attack on one area....

It pretty much was one deastating sneak attack on a single area, but the significance is that up until that point, America was not militarily involved in World War II, and the next day, we declared war on Japan, and Germany and Italy, as Japan's allies, declared war on us. It was used as a sort of rallying cry throughout the war in the pacific. Pearl Harbor Day is mostly a commemoration of those who were killed in the attack.
Kanabia
25-04-2006, 13:35
I'm getting paid double time today!

*waves Australian flag with teary eyes*

lol :p
Saint Jade
25-04-2006, 13:46
ANZAC day was basically the first time NZ and Australian soldiers fought on a massive scale, with 10s of thousands dying over the course of the battle. It's kind of evolved into a general rememberance day for soldiers from NZ and aus who have fallen in battle.

Naturally, like most national days, the story has been done up a bit. For instance, Britian and France both lost more men in the same battle, whilst New Zealand lost more soldiers in other battles during the war. The Turks also find it somewhat amusing that we commemorate a battle we lost in such a big way.

Actually, WWI was the first war that Australia fought in as a separate nation. It is the first war in which AUSTRALIAN troops (the ANZACS) fought and died for their country. That is why we honour the ANZACs. Furthermore, why should we care that more troops from other nations died at Gallipoli? The point is that our troops died there. And we commemorate them.
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 13:50
Oh, ANZAC is short for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps.

not to be confused with ANZUS or Australia, New Zealand, United States Security (treaty)
Findecano Calaelen
25-04-2006, 14:50
I have to say the dawn service was pretty huge here in lil ol Adelaide
Kanabia
25-04-2006, 14:52
Actually, WWI was the first war that Australia fought in as a separate nation. It is the first war in which AUSTRALIAN troops (the ANZACS) fought and died for their country. That is why we honour the ANZACs. Furthermore, why should we care that more troops from other nations died at Gallipoli? The point is that our troops died there. And we commemorate them.

What about the New Zealanders? :p
Daistallia 2104
25-04-2006, 15:42
So now I must play the part of the ignorant american:

I've never really heard much about ANZAC Day, but from what I've just seen on the link, it seems that, at least on the surface, and in spirit, it might be a bit similar to the American Pearl Harbor Day?

First, to qualify my answer: I'm a Seppo (http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html#S), but a majority of my long term friends among the expat. community are Aussie or Kiwi.
In my experience, the spirit of the day is more like Memorial Day and Veteran's Day rolled into one, with a bit of July 4th.
Cape Isles
25-04-2006, 16:02
I think that ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps.) Day should be celebrated all over the Commonwealth, althought 10's of thousends of ANZAC's died there were also thousends of British dead. In 1916 after all forces were withdrawn from the Dardanelles there where some 36,000 Commonwealth troops dead but the Majority were the ANZAC's.

Also the guy who planned it did'nt want a repeat of what happened when he and others were planning the D-Day landings.
Harlesburg
26-04-2006, 06:34
ANZAC day was basically the first time NZ and Australian soldiers fought on a massive scale, with 10s of thousands dying over the course of the battle. It's kind of evolved into a general rememberance day for soldiers from NZ and aus who have fallen in battle.

Naturally, like most national days, the story has been done up a bit. For instance, Britian and France both lost more men in the same battle, whilst New Zealand lost more soldiers in other battles during the war. The Turks also find it somewhat amusing that we commemorate a battle we lost in such a big way.
Yes but more importantly it is about the fact they we had our first national heroes it made us have serious doubts in the decision making of British Officers and officials(Not just Churchill) brave stands like Lone Pine Quinns Post and Chunik Bair in which 760 odd Wellingtons(Not the Gumboots) went up 58 came back down not seriously wounded or unwounded.
7800 served officially in NZ units of these in the evacuation only 86 were not wounded or suffering from illness.
It was a Heroic failure, just like Greece and Crete we were let down by a Cup of Char on the Northern Beaches by the British, if they hadn't have stopped to play Cricket on the beaches they would have taken the unopposed positions and made the whole thing a hell of a lot different.

It holds a whole Band of Brothers mentality(More than the 10st mini-series)Besides we wooped them in Egypt!
Oh, ANZAC is short for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps.

not to be confused with ANZUS or Australia, New Zealand, United States Security (treaty)
Which doesn't exist depending on who you don't talk to.-Which would be USA in our case...


Actually, WWI was the first war that Australia fought in as a separate nation. It is the first war in which AUSTRALIAN troops (the ANZACS) fought and died for their country. That is why we honour the ANZACs. Furthermore, why should we care that more troops from other nations died at Gallipoli? The point is that our troops died there. And we commemorate them.

What about the New Zealanders?:p
Oh nooooooooooooooes You forgot Poland.:(
Svalbardania
26-04-2006, 09:25
Oh nooooooooooooooes You forgot Poland.:(

What's a Poland?
Harlesburg
26-04-2006, 10:48
What's a Poland?
Touche.

Poland is a made up place that Austria, Germany, Russia and France like to talk about and fight over when they are bored.
Monkeypimp
26-04-2006, 11:02
Actually, WWI was the first war that Australia fought in as a separate nation. It is the first war in which AUSTRALIAN troops (the ANZACS) fought and died for their country. That is why we honour the ANZACs. Furthermore, why should we care that more troops from other nations died at Gallipoli? The point is that our troops died there. And we commemorate them.

Yes, only Australians are ANZACs, how silly of me. I can never remember what the 'NZ' in the acronym stands for though..
Gold Griffin
26-04-2006, 11:08
NZ Stands for New Zealand, the kiwi's were part of the ANZACS
Harlesburg
26-04-2006, 11:14
NZ Stands for New Zealand, the kiwi's were part of the ANZACS
Give this man a cookie!
Gold Griffin
26-04-2006, 11:17
Not bad 4 an Aussie is it//////
Harlesburg
26-04-2006, 11:20
Not bad 4 an Aussie is it//////
Indeed especially when you are starting off with a disadvantage.
The Shells
26-04-2006, 11:43
How cool would it be if Australia and NZ fought EACH OTHER in a war?

Well, except for the fact that NZ basically doesnt have a military...

it'd still be sweet though

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NO
Harlesburg
26-04-2006, 11:46
NO
:)
Svalbardania
30-04-2006, 01:37
Too many sensible people on this forum...