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I personally think he should, as there is good chance he'll be killed or, even better, horribly wounded.

I like your thinking.

My words on this:

*Prince Harry* :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

He's in the bloody army, and no other bugger gets a choice.

Lt Windsor - "Oh, I just joined up for the free meals and no tax, I didn't intend to go overseas."

Lt Col - "I'm terribly sorry, Harry, but you seem to mistakenly believe that I give a damn what some lieutenant thinks about our orders."

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I personally think he should, as there is good chance he'll be killed or, even better, horribly wounded.
And exactly why do you want him dead or horribly injured? Is there something wrong with you?

I think he should be 'allowed' to go to the front line. He's in the bloody army; it's his fricking job. I do like the quote from him:

If they said 'no, you can't go front line' then I wouldn't drag my sorry ass through Sandhurst and I wouldn't be where I am now.

personally I think we should send them all to the most dangerous part of the front line as then it will at least weed out the unlucky ones (I was going to say the stupid ones but then realised that with the royal family we don't have much chance of having a inteligent one)

he wants to go.. let him. They didnt waste all this time and money training him for nothing.

He should absolutely be given every opportunity to function as a soldier and as a leader. However, there is some legitimacy in the worries of some that he may draw additional problems to his unit due to his status.

He joined the army. 'nuff said.

The king and queen could have left London during the Blitz, they had no legal duty to stay. They stayed.

Harry has a duty to go wherever he's ordered, same as everyone else in the army. And he agrees, Royals are good for a sense of honour if nothing else.

He signed up, he knew what it entailed as did everyone else and he wants to go, as he quotes proves. Quite frankly he can go earn his wage like a normal person.

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I personally think he should, as there is good chance he'll be killed or, even better, horribly wounded.


Who cares what any of them do?

well
he joined the army
and wants to fight
so why deny someone their wish
plus it is his job as well!

And exactly why do you want him dead or horribly injured? Is there something wrong with you?


I don't especially want him dead or injured. I just think it would be amusing (if for me only) if the objectionable little turd was.

He should be allowed to go but he would draw attention to the iraqis and risk other lives
:sniper:

i don't think there should be any question of whether he should go to the iraq or afganistan. he's in a front-line unit (isn't he?), he has a job, he should do it, end of story. just cuz he's royalty doesn't make his life any more valuable than anyone elses.

He's got more nerves and conviction than the Shrub Bimbos that's for sure.

I like this comment from the BBC website discussion


Yes, without doubt Harry will lead his men to victory. He is very smart and articulate, well travelled not like those lads from USA who asks for zip code in Iraq. Harry will be in position to track opposition as he has been in such places before. I am sure he knows in such places you do not ask for zip code, but you get directions by asking for a river or a kind of tree. He will waste no time to fight for his country. He is a survivor and he will do the job well. Give him a chance to do what he wants and not what people think he should do.

Bibian Mukasa, Preston

One of his relatives flew a helicopter during the Falklands War, hardly a delightful occupation. I say let him take his chances. He is a tank commander in an armoured reconnaissance unit anyway, so he's got a good deal more protection than most soldiers get.

One of his relatives flew a helicopter during the Falklands War, hardly a delightful occupation. I say let him take his chances. He is a tank commander in an armoured reconnaissance unit anyway, so he's got a good deal more protection than most soldiers get.
Isn't it tradition for kings and princes to Lead the troops in battle?

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I personally think he should, as there is good chance he'll be killed or, even better, horribly wounded.

Sod Iraq or Afghanistan, just parachute him into the Gorbals...

Isn't it tradition for kings and princes to Lead the troops in battle?

The last to do that was George II in 1743. It's much easier just to stay in the palace with a cigar and a Brandy.
Yes, I am an annoying little turd.

The last to do that was George II in 1743. It's much easier just to stay in the palace with a cigar and a Brandy.
Yes, I am an annoying little turd.

The last *king*, yes. There were a few instances after of Princes (2 years later, for instance, i believe one of the Princes - Duke of Cumberland? - was the fellow who crushed the Jacobite uprising)

just cuz he's royalty doesn't make his life any more valuable than anyone elses.
yes he is. if he got kidnapped and held for ransom (really just propaganda), the effect would be more devastating than if he were killed in battle. watching a prince get his head sawed off would do wonders for morale.

Hey, they don't want to stop him going just for his own safety...

The issue is actually that naturally he'd be a key target for terrorists, so everyone around him would be in danger too.

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I personally think he should, as there is good chance he'll be killed or, even better, horribly wounded.

We must have been parted at birth......

He joined the army. 'nuff said.

The king and queen could have left London during the Blitz, they had no legal duty to stay. They stayed.

Harry has a duty to go wherever he's ordered, same as everyone else in the army. And he agrees, Royals are good for a sense of honour if nothing else.

My sentiments exactly! And as for those who whish he was dead or horribly injured, you can go get lost! I have just returned home from a car crash, I'm a volunteer firefighter, and there was a dead and horribly injured person. You obviously have no idea how valuable live is if you can callously disregard that of someone else. Shame on you!

Sincerily
Lady Elleham

Like it matters.. He's second in line. He will never be important. Like he'd even leave the base tho..

He's got more nerves and conviction than the Shrub Bimbos that's for sure.
Hey Alcohol poisoning and showing one's coochie in public are very real dangers. That guy from Girls Gone Wild is always lurking about, and you know he's already got the box cover designed, just in case.

Meh. Send the entire Royal family over. Then just wait and soon enough we can get rid of them and become a proper democracy with an elected HOS.

Meh. Send the entire Royal family over. Then just wait and soon enough we can get rid of them and become a proper democracy with an elected HOS.
Because that always works out for everyone. Democracy != kick ass government; democracy == stupid dipshit getting elected cause he had a stupider campaign.

Because that always works out for everyone. Democracy != kick ass government; democracy == stupid dipshit getting elected cause he had a stupider campaign.
He doesn't have to have any powers.

Because that always works out for everyone. Democracy != kick ass government; democracy == stupid dipshit getting elected cause he had a stupider campaign.
Yes. But then at least we only have our selves to blame.

I don't especially want him dead or injured. I just think it would be amusing (if for me only) if the objectionable little turd was.
You would actually laugh if you heard on the news that Prince Harry was killed in action? Seriously, words fail me...:confused:

He signed up for the army, so he should be treated exactly the same as any other troop in his position would. If they thought it was so dangerous in the first place, he shouldn't have been allowed to join although I don't see the point in protecting him when he is a grown man.

He signed up for the army, so he should be treated exactly the same as any other troop in his position would. If they thought it was so dangerous in the first place, he shouldn't have been allowed to join although I don't see the point in protecting him when he is a grown man.
The British Royal Family has a long History of Military service starting with Prince Andrew in the Falklands...

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He should be allowed to stay in the Army, he should go to any area of conflict that his unit goes to, he shouldn't be wrapped in cotton wool.

The British Royal Family has a long History of Military service starting with Prince Andrew in the Falklands...

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He should be allowed to stay in the Army, he should go to any area of conflict that his unit goes to, he shouldn't be wrapped in cotton wool.
Indeed. How would he operate a tank if he were wrapped in cotton wool?

He's in the army. If that's where they send him, then so be it.

He signed up for the army, so he should be treated exactly the same as any other troop in his position would. If they thought it was so dangerous in the first place, he shouldn't have been allowed to join although I don't see the point in protecting him when he is a grown man.

Don't most Royals do a stint in the Navy?

Anyway, if the kid has loyalty to his brothers and a bit of bloodlust, then let him.

My sentiments exactly! And as for those who whish he was dead or horribly injured, you can go get lost! I have just returned home from a car crash, I'm a volunteer firefighter, and there was a dead and horribly injured person. You obviously have no idea how valuable live is if you can callously disregard that of someone else. Shame on you!

Sincerily
Lady Elleham
Thanks for this post. I've said on this forum several times that seeing a person killed makes one consider life and death in whole different ways. Most of the members just don't have a clue.

yes he is. if he got kidnapped and held for ransom (really just propaganda), the effect would be more devastating than if he were killed in battle. watching a prince get his head sawed off would do wonders for morale.
I'd suggest that if that happened, there wouldn't be a safe muslim in the UK. Much as the brits moan about the royal family, they'd more than likely go on a bit of a killing spree if one of them got themselves deaded like that. Once a brit gets angry enough about something, little stops them.
If you've even been to a footy match, you'll know what I mean.

Don't most Royals do a stint in the Navy?
Usually, but Harry's following in his father's footsteps in this case.

No. Nobody should.

You would actually laugh if you heard on the news that Prince Harry was killed in action? Seriously, words fail me...:confused:

I would most certainly laugh and probably still be smiling at the end of the day.

No. Nobody should.

Exactly. No, they should not send Harry. And no, they shouldn't send Jack, Mike, Thomas, Patrcik or young man with any other name into Afghanistan or Iraq. Keeping a prince in home for his safety could work as a model to follow in case of every Brit and American that's currently or going-to-be fighting in those places.

He's in the army. Going is his job. And evidently, he wants to. I see nothing wrong with letting him. I find it a lot more respectable than the Bush daughters just drinking and partying while the children of more humble folk die in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In war, the first to go fight should be those close to the decision-makers.

He's in the army. Going is his job. And evidently, he wants to. I see nothing wrong with letting him. I find it a lot more respectable than the Bush daughters just drinking and partying while the children of more humble folk die in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In war, the first to go fight should be those close to the decision-makers.

In that case we should be sending Tony Blair's kids... or more preferably, Tony Blair...

Is it not about time that all MP's sons and daughters went to the front line as well?? The politicians cause the wars, and then expect normal people to sacrifice their children for "the cause".

He should go, so should the eldest child of all politicians!!

i think its a bad idea for a couple of reasons, the first is he should suck it up and realise he's not an ordinary kid, he could be king one day, and second if i was a terrorist (not saying all iraquis etc. are but theres got to be a couple left) who would i target... british royal family...?! he'd be a liability.

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I personally think he should, as there is good chance he'll be killed or, even better, horribly wounded.

I think he will not be going because Blair would look like complete fool having an heir the English throne kidnapped by someone because of his decision to send troops there.

I would most certainly laugh and probably still be smiling at the end of the day.
Then you're fucked up.

Then you're fucked up.
I second the above.

Is it not about time that all MP's sons and daughters went to the front line as well?? The politicians cause the wars, and then expect normal people to sacrifice their children for "the cause".

He should go, so should the eldest child of all politicians!!

You know that doesn't happen. For example, the current US president ... :)

He did that training to fight. Unlike this brother who is going to end up pussy-footing around for the queens boady guard or whatever he's training for now.

He's a soldier of the UK Military now. He'll go where they send him.
And since he's threatened to quit the military if they don't send him to the front line, meah.

I'm sure there is another unit he can move into. SES perhaps. Sounds like something he'd enjoy training for.
And he would see front-line action doing that.

He's in the bloody army, and no other bugger gets a choice.There is of course the small issue of him making his squad a huge priority target by his presence..
But getting shot somewhere will sure up his street cred if he ever becomes king or something..

Then you're fucked up.

Noted.

Oh God no! Don't let him do anything where there is even a remote possibility where he could be portrayed as brave or heroic. Just try and imagine if he actually managed to achieve something positive in Afghanistan. We'd never hear the end of it. Just... no... it's not worth the risk. Let some other commander try and sort the situation out.

The British Royal Family has a long History of Military service starting with Prince Andrew in the Falklands...


To be fair, that's not exactly 'a long history' is it (1982)?


The last monarch to properly put himself in danger (i.e. not hang at the back on a horse at the top of a hill) was Richard III leading the charge at Bosworth over 500 years ago.

The last English King to die in battle; now that's proper royalty.

To be fair, that's not exactly 'a long history' is it (1982).

The last monarch to properly put himself in danger (i.e. not hang at the back on a horse at the top of a hill) was Richard III leading the charge at Bosworth over 500 years ago.

The last English King to die in battle; now that's proper royalty.
Proper stupid in my opinion. Didn't George II actually lead his troops into battle?

Proper stupid in my opinion. Didn't George II actually lead his troops into battle?


Yes he did, my mistake.

Sure. If members of the Royal FAmily want to play at being soldiers, they should take the same risks as anyone else. Besides, he is what, 3rd in line for the throne? So assuming the monarchy is still a relevant institution, it's not exactly going to plunge the nation into a deep constitutional crisis if the little bugger drops off the branch now is it?

Don't think their is any chance of Harry going to Iraq, Iran or Afghanistan because he's with the Blues and Royals and all they do is ceremonial duties at Horse Guards.

ummm well he joined the army so i guess so