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What is Scientology?

GruntsandElites
23-04-2006, 17:09
Everyone talks about it, but I have no idea about what it is besides some kind of wacko religion. Someone help me out here.
The Squadron
23-04-2006, 17:20
IMHO:

Its a pseudo-religion (read cult) based on the writings of science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

I would say read the Wiki definition. Especially the part about how humans evolved from clams.
Dorstfeld
23-04-2006, 17:29
It's the world's most profitable and longevious pyramid scheme: hot air for cold bucks.
Keruvalia
23-04-2006, 17:32
Upon reading the Wiki definition, I must say .... Scientologists are completely bat-shit insane. If I offend any Scientologists here, fine. Sue me.
Smunkeeville
23-04-2006, 17:35
Upon reading the Wiki definition, I must say .... Scientologists are completely bat-shit insane. If I offend any Scientologists here, fine. Sue me.
they will. :D

btw I don't find them much more crazy than say, Mormons, but hey, at least Mormons try to look normal. I take issue with the "don't talk to your baby for 7 days after they are born" thing that Scientologists do, but then I probably talk to my kids too much, at least the LDS are all about family. (and aliens, but hey, don't want to hijack)
Ravenshrike
23-04-2006, 17:35
A giant pyramid scheme. Only slightly less insane than the meme that the government is here to help.
Mt-Tau
23-04-2006, 17:36
Upon reading the Wiki definition, I must say .... Scientologists are completely bat-shit insane. If I offend any Scientologists here, fine. Sue me.

And they will do just that. Any belief that requires sueing any and all opposition into the ground just has malicous intent anyway.
Potarius
23-04-2006, 17:37
Upon reading the Wiki definition, I must say .... Scientologists are completely bat-shit insane. If I offend any Scientologists here, fine. Sue me.

Agreed.
Pythogria
23-04-2006, 17:39
Upon reading the Wiki definition, I must say .... Scientologists are completely bat-shit insane. If I offend any Scientologists here, fine. Sue me.

YOU OFFEND ME! :mad:

Just kidding. I'm not a Scientologist. And I agree with you.
Zolworld
23-04-2006, 17:43
scientologists are indeed mental, but dont diss mormons!their beliefs may be stupid but the people themselves are lovely. scientology is really odd though. really really odd. maybe theres an inside joke that we just dont get or smoething.
New Lofeta
23-04-2006, 17:46
Sorry mate, but its hard not the diss a group of people who decide to live a few hundred years behind the world (except northern ireland.... we rock :P)
Ifreann
23-04-2006, 17:47
This thread has 45 seconds to implode or Xenu and his mighty legal team will come and destroy you all.
Refused Party Program
23-04-2006, 17:56
All this justified Xenuphobia is making me hungry for placenta.
Kanabia
23-04-2006, 18:02
*goes through wikipedia*

Ahahaha, they're already in the US government! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bono)

Ohohoho! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ileana_Ros-Lehtinen)

:p
Potarius
23-04-2006, 18:04
*goes through wikipedia*

Ahahaha, they're already in the US government! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bono)

Ohohoho! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ileana_Ros-Lehtinen)

:p

And they're both Republicans!

Republican politicians who are total mental fuckjobs? Imagine that.
Kanabia
23-04-2006, 18:05
And they're both Republicans!

Republican politicians who are total mental fuckjobs? Imagine that.

On the plus side, they both support gay rights.
Potarius
23-04-2006, 18:06
On the plus side, they both support gay rights.

True, but they're still nuts.
Free Mercantile States
23-04-2006, 18:07
Utterly whacked - batshit crazy as they come. I mean, Tom Cruise is their posterboy and the alien overlords who guided evolution from clams to humans don't want us to make use of medicine. I want some of what these people are smoking. Maybe that's why they really don't want a medical exam....:D
Desperate Measures
23-04-2006, 19:51
I don't know, I see some comparisons between humans and clams that could be made. Afterall, I discharge sperm into seawater sometimes and hope that it will reach a female egg somewhere.
German Nightmare
23-04-2006, 20:28
Scientologists have yet to discover the secret ingredient for their Kool-aid.

It's not working yet, folks...
Lunatic Goofballs
23-04-2006, 20:30
Everyone talks about it, but I have no idea about what it is besides some kind of wacko religion. Someone help me out here.

It's proof that if you're imaginative and demented enough, you can conquer the world. :)
Kilobugya
23-04-2006, 20:36
And they're both Republicans!

Republican politicians who are total mental fuckjobs? Imagine that.

Isn't that a pleonasm ?
Ifreann
23-04-2006, 20:47
Isn't that a pleonasm ?
A democrat would think so
Ley Land
23-04-2006, 21:31
Scientology is a sick cult that profits on ruining people's lives. They trick people into joining by running adds in papers for sci-fi writing competitions, then they make you pay for "courses" to help you achieve "enlightenment". If you go to live in one of the communes they don't let you leave.

It's a sick scheme that has way too much credibilty for my taste. It is NOT a recognised religion, it is a cult.
Callixtina
23-04-2006, 22:11
They believe that 75 million years a go, Xenu, ruler of the Galaxy, took the overpoluated people of the universe from all of the planets and imobilized them. Then he put them in boxes, and shipped them to Earth (Then called Gleaack) in DC-10 jets. They took the overpopulated people called THETANS and dropped them at the foot of all the major volcanoes of earth. They then dropped nuclear bombs into the volcanos and blew them up, causing massive erruptions all across the planet and killing the Thetans. :rolleyes: But the Thetans spirits flew up to the sky, but Zenu caught them in giant disks, and had them transported to a theatre where they showed the spirits images and sounds to confuse them. Then they released the Thetans back to Earth, where they attached themselves to the new race of evolving humans. :confused: and thats where our problems come from, the Thetans, because their tortured souls attached to us cause us our problems. In order to reach CLEAR it is imperative that you follow their program to teach you how to rid yourself of the Thetans. :p

Supposedly, You don't learn of this origin sotry until you reach a certian level in your training, that is, until you have given them large sums of money.

The cost to Scientology members runs from $300 yearly membership to $1million for Gold Patrons (people like Tom Cruise). Go to www.xenu.net to learn more about Scientology.

Check it out:
www.xenu.net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology
www.scientology.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
Desperate Measures
23-04-2006, 22:18
The only known actual photograph of Xenu.
http://armstrong.xenu.ca/GA001.jpg

You can see why so many people join.
Desperate Measures
23-04-2006, 22:19
They believe that 75 million years a go, Xenu, ruler of the Galaxy, took the overpoluated people of the universe from all of the planets and imobilized them. Then he put them in boxes, and shipped them to Earth (Then called Gleaack) in DC-10 jets. They took the overpopulated people called THETANS and dropped them at the foot of all the major volcanoes of earth. They then dropped nuclear bombs into the volcanos and blew them up, causing massive erruptions all across the planet and killing the Thetans. :rolleyes: But the Thetans spirits flew up to the sky, but Zenu caught them in giant disks, and had them transported to a theatre where they showed the spirits images and sounds to confuse them. Then they released the Thetans back to Earth, where they attached themselves to the new race of evolving humans. :confused: and thats where our problems come from, the Thetans, because their tortured souls attached to us cause us our problems. In order to reach CLEAR it is imperative that you follow their program to teach you how to rid yourself of the Thetans. :p

Supposedly, You don't learn of this origin sotry until you reach a certian level in your training, that is, until you have given them large sums of money.

The cost to Scientology members runs from $300 yearly membership to $1million for Gold Patrons (people like Tom Cruise). Go to www.xenu.net to learn more about Scientology.

Check it out:
www.xenu.net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology
www.scientology.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
It can't be a cult because Scientology bought the Cult Awareness Network.
Undelia
23-04-2006, 22:25
I don't know, I see some comparisons between humans and clams that could be made. Afterall, I discharge sperm into seawater sometimes and hope that it will reach a female egg somewhere.
You too?
Desperate Measures
23-04-2006, 22:27
You too?
Do you release eggs or sperm? I'm a sperm man myself but you know... sometimes... if I get a little drunk... I've been known to release an egg or two.
Catalpah
23-04-2006, 22:28
"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion" L. Ron Hubbard

Hubbard later created the Church of Scientology.
Blood has been shed
23-04-2006, 22:33
Makes more sense than most religions :rolleyes:
Desperate Measures
23-04-2006, 23:25
Makes more sense than most religions :rolleyes:
Is that a positive for Scientology or a negative for major religions?
Fleckenstein
23-04-2006, 23:33
jesus christ. the first church of scientology was founded ten minutes from my home, in camden, nj.

i love the fact that the history of the "church" involves moving assets and changing organizations.
Callixtina
23-04-2006, 23:34
It can't be a cult because Scientology bought the Cult Awareness Network.

:rolleyes: Opponents of the new Cult Awareness Network say it has become effectively a subsidiary organization of, and a front group for, Scientology, as it exclusively promotes Scientology's point of view regarding cults and deprogrammers.


So, the new Cult Awareness Network is owned by "associates" of the Church of Scientology, and they bought it to effectively quash any negative information that might surface against them. CAN is no longer a reliable source of information on cults. :mp5:

go to:
www.ex-cult.org
www.csj.org
www.freedomofmind.com
Callixtina
23-04-2006, 23:37
jesus christ. the first church of scientology was founded ten minutes from my home, in camden, nj.

i love the fact that the history of the "church" involves moving assets and changing organizations.


Whats worse it that it teaches people who join, to distance themselves or cut all ties from family and friends who speak against Scientology. Once you have people brainwashed, cutting off ties, and handing over large sums of money, all you need is the Cool-Aid.
Callixtina
23-04-2006, 23:39
Makes more sense than most religions :rolleyes:

Not really but its just as silly. Remember, only 2500 years ago, people believed in Zeus, Horus, and Valhalla.
GruntsandElites
26-04-2006, 02:57
Whats worse it that it teaches people who join, to distance themselves or cut all ties from family and friends who speak against Scientology. Once you have people brainwashed, cutting off ties, and handing over large sums of money, all you need is the Cool-Aid.

KOOL-AID! IT STARTS WITH A K!KK.
BlueDragon407
26-04-2006, 03:11
Look up the "Sean Kennedy Radio Show", download and listen to the first two episodes. I think Sean has a great opinion on the topic.
Velkya
26-04-2006, 03:23
Stupid Scientologists.

Stupid Tom Cruise.
Radical Centrists
26-04-2006, 03:29
CLICK (http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm)<---

It's a rather long interview with L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. who tells a very interesting/disturbing tale about Scientology. It's old, and it's Penthouse (safe link) but it's a helluva read.

I recommend going through the whole thing.
TheFreePlace
26-04-2006, 03:34
They're just plain insane. Tom Cruise is one. That should be enough. Also it was made by a Sci-Fi author who got in an accident and went KrAzY.
Callixtina
26-04-2006, 04:24
KOOL-AID! IT STARTS WITH A K!KK.

Thank you, now how about you go mix some up, Jim Jones style, and have a drink :upyours: :upyours:
Naps and Beer
26-04-2006, 04:32
Everyone talks about it, but I have no idea about what it is besides some kind of wacko religion. Someone help me out here.

a cult
Avika
26-04-2006, 05:31
It's a combo of a weird cult, minus the "special" kool-aid, and one of the weirdest parymid schemes ever devised. It's all a big plot to get rich quick at the expense of someone else's freewill.
Kosirgistan
26-04-2006, 13:08
oh yeahh? I am OT Level 30000000012 - the force is nothing compared to my powers( i can get you of heroin in 3 days and psych therapy is the devil cause yall havent studied it like i did) - i'll sue you all - ill sue you all twice!

And like Jim Jones ill take you out with one punch.

-Tom Cruise
Rambhutan
26-04-2006, 13:44
Not really but its just as silly. Remember, only 2500 years ago, people believed in Zeus, Horus, and Valhalla.

Are you saying that believing in Zeus is somehow sillier than say being a Christian?
Bottle
26-04-2006, 13:58
Upon reading the Wiki definition, I must say .... Scientologists are completely bat-shit insane. If I offend any Scientologists here, fine. Sue me.
Meh, they're no more or less insane than any of the other world religions.

I mean, e-meters or burning bushes? A sci-fi writer with a messiah complex, or a magical zombie who redeemed humanity from the sin of taking dietary advice from snakes? Evil alien spirits infesting our bodies, or goat-like demons who inhabit a fiery torture dimension?

It's all equally bonkers. At least Scientology myths are a bit more creative than the recycled Greek and Egyptian myths that seem to be so popular in modern religions.
Steveoville
26-04-2006, 14:03
You guys infering that, say, the Church is somehow similar to scientology? I don't see the church conning people out of money, or making people believe in crazy far out ideologies...

Oh, wait a sec....







j/k btw.....
Damor
26-04-2006, 14:04
It wouldn't be so bad, if they weren't actually serious about it. There's nothign wrong with playing along with a fun and crazy story; actually believing it to be the truth though, that's just nutier than a fruitcake.
Kzord
26-04-2006, 14:23
This is a useful article relating to scientology:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/TR/critique.html