NationStates Jolt Archive


Superstorm in Northern Australia

Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 12:20
Yes, there's only one tropical storm active at the moment. It just happens to be heading in my direction. Just a mere Cat 5 cyclone gusting upto 350 kmph! Great way to make next week very stressful.

Current cyclone situation
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDD65011.shtml
[NS]The Atheists Reality
23-04-2006, 12:35
...You see I happen to live in Darwin/near enough to it that this is pretty damn worrying soooooooo yeah we're both screwed.
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 12:40
The Atheists Reality']...You see I happen to live in Darwin/near enough to it that this is pretty damn worrying soooooooo yeah we're both screwed.

Cyclone Ingrid was scary enough, but 350 km/h! ANZAC day is going be really windy.
[NS]The Atheists Reality
23-04-2006, 12:43
...yeees and my mother was hit on the head by a flying piece of metal in Tracy and I DO NOT WANT TO REPEAT HISTORY. Blargh. [/worry]
Kievan-Prussia
23-04-2006, 12:44
I think Darwin is just generally not a good place in Australia. They get hit by cyclones, they got bombed in WWII, and the only place in Australia that Kim Jong-Il's nukes can reach is Darwin.
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 12:44
The Atheists Reality']...yeees and my mother was hit on the head by a flying piece of metal in Tracy and I DO NOT WANT TO REPEAT HISTORY. Blargh. [/worry]

Ouch! That's near decapitation.
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2006, 12:45
I just saw "Wolf Creek", and as far as Im concerned, the entire Outback can be blown off the map.

Skeery cheet.
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 12:48
I just saw "Wolf Creek", and as far as Im concerned, the entire Outback can be blown off the map.

Skeery cheet.

I think this global warming is turning Cat 4 into Cat 5s. Hurricane Katrina wasn't thing strong either.
Lazy Otakus
23-04-2006, 12:51
I think Darwin is just generally not a good place in Australia. They get hit by cyclones, they got bombed in WWII, and the only place in Australia that Kim Jong-Il's nukes can reach is Darwin.

It almost seems like a higher power does not like this city.
[NS]The Atheists Reality
23-04-2006, 12:51
I think this global warming is turning Cat 4 into Cat 5s. Hurricane Katrina wasn't thing strong either.


...No Jeru, if you've lived here as long as I have, for example your entire life, then you'll know this part of the country gets these types of cyclones every once in a while. See Tracy and such.
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 12:54
The Atheists Reality']...No Jeru, if you've lived here as long as I have, for example your entire life, then you'll know this part of the country gets these types of cyclones every once in a while. See Tracy and such.

Been in Darwin over 20 years. You rarely get two massive Cat 5s within two years of each other.
Fleckenstein
23-04-2006, 12:57
It almost seems like a higher power does not like this city.
hoho! zing!

well, good luck with evacuation. i'm willing to bet the average australian can understand the threat of storm better than the average american. :rolleyes:
Mariehamn
23-04-2006, 12:59
well, good luck with evacuation. i'm willing to bet the average australian can understand the threat of storm better than the average american. :rolleyes:
Oh, please, let's just turn this into an American bashing thread now!
Never mind the socio-economic situations are entirely different. :rolleyes:
[NS]The Atheists Reality
23-04-2006, 13:00
Been in Darwin over 20 years. You rarely get two massive Cat 5s within two years of each other.


"Rarely" Does not translate into "Never"..This can and apparently does happen. And pfft to global warming theories/facts. Still dont care.
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 13:07
The Atheists Reality']"Rarely" Does not translate into "Never"..This can and apparently does happen. And pfft to global warming theories/facts. Still dont care.

Cyclones love warm water. The ocean temperature is rising and is looks to me the days of Cat 2 and Cat 3 cyclones are over. You can dismiss global warming but then Katherine was supposed to flood every 100 years ... it's flooded twice in ten years. I've noted recent superstorms tend to be 4 or 5. Heck, there should be Cat 6 introduced.
[NS]The Atheists Reality
23-04-2006, 13:10
Cyclones love warm water. The ocean temperature is rising and is looks to me the days of Cat 2 and Cat 3 cyclones are over. You can dismiss global warming but then Katherine was supposed to flood every 100 years ... it's flooded twice in ten years. I've noted recent superstorms tend to be 4 or 5. Heck, there should be Cat 6 introduced.


Yeees and unless this city is destroyed to the point where it's not physically possible to live in-I'm...not...leaving. Ever.
Murderous maniacs
23-04-2006, 13:11
Cyclones love warm water. The ocean temperature is rising and is looks to me the days of Cat 2 and Cat 3 cyclones are over. You can dismiss global warming but then Katherine was supposed to flood every 100 years ... it's flooded twice in ten years. I've noted recent superstorms tend to be 4 or 5. Heck, there should be Cat 6 introduced.
dammit, all this talk of cat 5 and cat 6 makes me think that you're setting up a high speen lan
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 13:14
The Atheists Reality']Yeees and unless this city is destroyed to the point where it's not physically possible to live in-I'm...not...leaving. Ever.

Well Darwin was wiped out in 1973 by Cyclone Tracy as you know. We did learn living in tin sheds in cyclone region wasn't a good idea. Good thing for the cyclone code :p
Lunatic Goofballs
23-04-2006, 13:17
Cyclones blow. :)
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 13:17
dammit, all this talk of cat 5 and cat 6 makes me think that you're setting up a high speen lan

I happen to work in IT :D

Cat 5 is 280 km/h so Cat 6 is 2800 km/h in IT terms!
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 13:18
Cyclones blow. :)

And it's name is Monica ...
[NS]The Atheists Reality
23-04-2006, 13:19
Well Darwin was wiped out in 1973 by Cyclone Tracy as you know. We did learn living in tin sheds in cyclone region wasn't a good idea. Good thing for the cyclone code :p


...74. 1974. As to confirm it, I phoned my mother who was actually in it. That was probably a typo on your part though :p
Lunatic Goofballs
23-04-2006, 13:21
And it's name is Monica ...

:eek:

Monica Blows?

:p

:D
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 13:21
The Atheists Reality']...74. 1974. As to confirm it, I phoned my mother who was actually in it. That was probably a typo on your part though :p

You're right. 73 is my birth year (I do that sometimes) ... 1974 Christmas Day I meant.
Murderous maniacs
23-04-2006, 13:22
I happen to work in IT :D

Cat 5 is 280 km/h so Cat 6 is 2800 km/h in IT terms!
you can still use cat 5 for gigabit, the only problem ist if you're using a long cable or putting alot of interference through it
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 13:22
:eek:

Monica Blows?

:p

:D

I found that quite ironic! :D
Jeruselem
23-04-2006, 13:24
you can still use cat 5 for gigabit, the only problem ist if you're using a long cable or putting alot of interference through it

Just installed Cat6 using Cat5 cable at work. Cat 6 cable is horribly expensive.
Murderous maniacs
23-04-2006, 13:30
Just installed Cat6 using Cat5 cable at work. Cat 6 cable is horribly expensive.
of course it is, it's new and it supposedly has better capabilities at high speed, though i have yet to hear of it actually being that much better
Svalbardania
24-04-2006, 06:43
GAH! *fends off IT nerds with mouse*

:p
Pythogria
24-04-2006, 06:46
Well, in Alberta I don't need to worry about this, but everyone in Austrailia:

Be safe, don't get killed. Get supplies. Heck, EVACUATE!
Iztatepopotla
24-04-2006, 08:34
The Atheists Reality']"Rarely" Does not translate into "Never"..This can and apparently does happen. And pfft to global warming theories/facts. Still dont care.
Agreed. Two in a row is rare but should still happen from time to time. If you can make it three, then we'll be talking about something. You have less than a month to go in cyclone season, right?
Jeruselem
24-04-2006, 13:36
Well, it going be fun tomorrow morning and afternoon. If you don't hear from me or [NS]The Atheists Reality, for the next days - err, hope it's our telephone lines down.

It's crossed the NT coast and hopefully slows down to Category 3 when it gets near Darwin. More projections say it will move South-west-ward, away from Darwin.

That link again
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDD65011.shtml
The Atheists Reality
24-04-2006, 14:13
Well, it going be fun tomorrow morning and afternoon. If you don't hear from me or [NS]The Atheists Reality, for the next days - err, hope it's our telephone lines down.

It's crossed the NT coast and hopefully slows down to Category 3 when it gets near Darwin. More projections say it will move South-west-ward, away from Darwin.

That link again
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDD65011.shtml

Half an hour, maybe an hour till I piss off to the shelter. Everyone got their looting lists ready?...But seriously, this is going to be interesting.
Jeruselem
24-04-2006, 14:18
Half an hour, maybe an hour till I piss off to the shelter. Everyone got their looting lists ready?...But seriously, this is going to be interesting.

It's suffer at home time for me. Well, have fun in the shelter. As for looting, leave it until Wednesday or don't do it - the army folks in Palmerston might turn up.
The Atheists Reality
24-04-2006, 14:21
It's suffer at home time for me. Well, have fun in the shelter. As for looting, leave it until Wednesday or don't do it - the army folks in Palmerston might turn up.

Bwah. My dad happens to *be* one of said army folks from Palmerston, or at least he used to be. Also, be safe, really. Home just isnt the best place in this type of stuff.
Jeruselem
24-04-2006, 14:28
Bwah. My dad happens to *be* one of said army folks from Palmerston, or at least he used to be. Also, be safe, really. Home just isnt the best place in this type of stuff.

See you Tuesday night ... if we aren't under a pile of rubble. ;)
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 12:02
Darwin is still in one piece! Cyclone Monica terrorised two small towns as it headed in-land, degraded into a wimpy Category 1 and then just a tropical low. And it did get near Darwin, as it swung around back North over the top of Darwin and back into the sea.

Oh, anyone live in Western Australia? She's headed your way.
Iztatepopotla
25-04-2006, 12:17
After all this thread it just rained? What a ripoff! Booh! Booh!
Squornshelous
25-04-2006, 12:25
350 kph is what exactly in mph?

I'm trying to compare this to some of the hurricanes I've been through in Florida.
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 12:28
350 kph is what exactly in mph?

I'm trying to compare this to some of the hurricanes I've been through in Florida.

About 220 mph.

And Iztatepopotla - move to Florida if you want some action next year. :p
Squornshelous
25-04-2006, 12:31
About 220 mph.

And Iztatepopotla - move to Florida if you want some action next year. :p

Ok, that's one hell of a storm.

But yeah, in the past two seasons, Florida has been hit by 7 or 8 storms, one of which looped around and hit us again.
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 12:37
Ok, that's one hell of a storm.

But yeah, in the past two seasons, Florida has been hit by 7 or 8 storms, one of which looped around and hit us again.

Well, Northern Australia and Florida are surrounded by lots of warm water. It's cyclone friendly water, so we kind of expect them every year. At least we don't get land tornados. The Arafura sea is shallow, so less chance of Tsunamis although we do have Indonesia above (which is really just bunch of old volcanoes).
Squornshelous
25-04-2006, 12:46
Well, Northern Australia and Florida are surrounded by lots of warm water. It's cyclone friendly water, so we kind of expect them every year. At least we don't get land tornados. The Arafura sea is shallow, so less chance of Tsunamis although we do have Indonesia above (which is really just bunch of old volcanoes).

We get everything except earthquakes. The warm shallow Gluf of Mexico means almost every summer day has a large thunderstorm at around 4 pm, occasionally, these daily thunderstorms collide with a frontal system and cause tornados. If there were ever to be a tsunami in the Atlantic, which thankfully, there rarely (if ever) are, we would be washed over like a big sandbar. If the wind from a hurricane doesn't destroy a house, chances are the storm surge will finish the job, since most of the densely populated areas in Florida are less than 50 feet above sea level.

What a fantastic place to live. :rolleyes:
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 12:50
We get everything except earthquakes. The warm shallow Gluf of Mexico means almost every summer day has a large thunderstorm at around 4 pm, occasionally, these daily thunderstorms collide with a frontal system and cause tornados. If there were ever to be a tsunami in the Atlantic, which thankfully, there rarely (if ever) are, we would be washed over like a big sandbar. If the wind from a hurricane doesn't destroy a house, chances are the storm surge will finish the job, since most of the densely populated areas in Florida are less than 50 feet above sea level.

What a fantastic place to live. :rolleyes:

And I still wonder why the US Space Program are based in Florida. Trillions of $$$ in space equipment ready to be trashed by one Hurricane.
Squornshelous
25-04-2006, 12:54
And I still wonder why the US Space Program are based in Florida. Trillions of $$$ in space equipment ready to be trashed by one Hurricane.

Launches have been delayed several times because of approaching storms, and they've had to stash the rockets or shuttles back in the vehicle assembly building until it's past. They should just move the whole operation to Houston.
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 13:04
Launches have been delayed several times because of approaching storms, and they've had to stash the rockets or shuttles back in the vehicle assembly building until it's past. They should just move the whole operation to Houston.

My opinion is it's just politics. Florida is known for it's shuttle launches and hurricanes, taking away the NASA money from the economy wouldn't help Jeb Bush and co. Heck, I wouldn't put a shuttle facility in Northern Australia either.
Squornshelous
25-04-2006, 13:08
My opinion is it's just politics. Florida is known for it's shuttle launches and hurricanes, taking away the NASA money from the economy wouldn't help Jeb Bush and co. Heck, I wouldn't put a shuttle facility in Northern Australia either.

I think originally they put it here because there was plenty of empty space and a space lauch center needs that kind of area. When you look at all of its facilities, Kennedy Space Center occupies a huge amount of space. Something like 10 launch pads, most of which are never going to be used again, the Vehicle Assembly Building, which is big enough that it rains inside and hundreds of support buildings. Also, the coastal location means that any rocket that went of course would crash and explode out in the ocean, rather than on top of a city or in the middle of a forest.
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 13:14
I think originally they put it here because there was plenty of empty space and a space lauch center needs that kind of area. When you look at all of its facilities, Kennedy Space Center occupies a huge amount of space. Something like 10 launch pads, most of which are never going to be used again, the Vehicle Assembly Building, which is big enough that it rains inside and hundreds of support buildings. Also, the coastal location means that any rocket that went of course would crash and explode out in the ocean, rather than on top of a city or in the middle of a forest.

Makes sense now. Australia tends to put these kinds of facilities in deserts (including the early nuke testing ones) or small isolated islands.
Angermanland
25-04-2006, 14:19
actually, i belive it has to do with orbital mechanics and circular motion.

the closer they are to the equator, the bigger boost the spin of the earth gives the shuttle [or rocket. whatever] and the less fuel it uses. of coure, you've still got to launch it in the right direction [east/west, and i forget which one is the right one] why do you think the europeans launch from the northern parts of south america? they'd probilby use africa if it weren't for all those, you know, militant nutters...

edit: open space for facilitys and oceans for landing in/ empty space for building large runways in are also good things.
Jeruselem
25-04-2006, 14:24
actually, i belive it has to do with orbital mechanics and circular motion.

the closer they are to the equator, the bigger boost the spin of the earth gives the shuttle [or rocket. whatever] and the less fuel it uses. of coure, you've still got to launch it in the right direction [east/west, and i forget which one is the right one] why do you think the europeans launch from the northern parts of south america? they'd probilby use africa if it weren't for all those, you know, militant nutters...

edit: open space for facilitys and oceans for landing in/ empty space for building large runways in are also good things.

That would explain why launch facilities seem to be in hurricane/cyclone prone areas.
Iztatepopotla
25-04-2006, 15:54
About 220 mph.

And Iztatepopotla - move to Florida if you want some action next year. :p
Oh, I've lived in Yucatán and Veracruz. Believe me, I've seen plenty of hurricane action.