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Does this mean I'm emo?

Naliitr
23-04-2006, 01:23
As many of you may know, I am a "cutter". A few years ago, I wrote this:

"So unless you have lived my life, hush.
For the scars on the outside
Are nothing compared to those on the inside."

as part of a poem. I posted it on the internet a few years back when I wanted another forum I was posting on to help the people on there understand my reasoning. Apparently, between then and now, almost every emo has taken this and used it as thier excuse to why they cut. I only learned this a few weeks ago when I posted it again on a thread here about self-injury. Fass said that it was every emo's rallying cry, or something like that. So I searched the internet, and I learned Fass wasn't kidding. It WAS every emo's rallying cry now. Now then, does this make me emo, as the fact that something I created is now being used by emos worldwide as a rallying cry? And I will answer nothing about the fact that I perform self-injury, so I wouldn't recommend you say anything about it.
[NS]Liasia
23-04-2006, 01:24
As many of you may know, I am a "cutter". A few years ago, I wrote this:

"So unless you have lived my life, hush.
For the scars on the outside
Are nothing compared to those on the inside."

as part of a poem. I posted it on the internet a few years back when I wanted another forum I was posting on to help the people on there understand my reasoning. Apparently, between then and now, almost every emo has taken this and used it as thier excuse to why they cut. I only learned this a few weeks ago when I posted it again on a thread here about self-injury. Fass said that it was every emo's rallying cry, or something like that. So I searched the internet, and I learned Fass wasn't kidding. It WAS every emo's rallying cry now. Now then, does this make me emo, as the fact that something I created is now being used by emos worldwide as a rallying cry? And I will answer nothing about the fact that I perform self-injury, so I wouldn't recommend you say anything about it.

I didn't know emos boasted. Shows me i guess. Fishing for compliements^
Dude111
23-04-2006, 01:25
As many of you may know, I am a "cutter". A few years ago, I wrote this:

"So unless you have lived my life, hush.
For the scars on the outside
Are nothing compared to those on the inside."

as part of a poem. I posted it on the internet a few years back when I wanted another forum I was posting on to help the people on there understand my reasoning. Apparently, between then and now, almost every emo has taken this and used it as thier excuse to why they cut. I only learned this a few weeks ago when I posted it again on a thread here about self-injury. Fass said that it was every emo's rallying cry, or something like that. So I searched the internet, and I learned Fass wasn't kidding. It WAS every emo's rallying cry now. Now then, does this make me emo, as the fact that something I created is now being used by emos worldwide as a rallying cry? And I will answer nothing about the fact that I perform self-injury, so I wouldn't recommend you say anything about it.
No, you're emo only if you do this: http://emosong.ytmnd.com/
Jerusalas
23-04-2006, 01:25
You're not emo unless you consider yourself to be an emo.
DrunkenDove
23-04-2006, 01:27
Why do you care what others label you?
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 01:27
No, you're emo only if you do this: http://emosong.ytmnd.com/
Ha. I love that song. No, I don't wear hot pink, eyeliner, nail polish, or tight clothes. I do not listen to any emo bands. I am NOT gay. Or bi. I don't cry every single damn day. I do wear black though. But it's more gothic-type clothing. Huge overcoats and trenchcoats and the like, not skimpy clothing.
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 01:28
You're not emo unless you consider yourself to be an emo.
Phew! Thank god I'm not emo.
Jerusalas
23-04-2006, 01:28
Ha. I love that song. No, I don't wear hot pink, eyeliner, nail polish, or tight clothes. I do not listen to any emo bands. I am NOT gay. Or bi. I don't cry every single damn day. I do wear black though. But it's more gothic-type clothing. Huge overcoats and trenchcoats and the like, not skimpy clothing.

Johnny Cash wore black, too.

He wasn't an emo, a goth, or a punk.
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 01:29
Johnny Cash wore black, too.

He wasn't an emo, a goth, or a punk.
Yeah. Just saw Walk The Line a few days ago. I wouldn't call him any of the black-clothing-stereotypes.
Lunatic Goofballs
23-04-2006, 01:31
As many of you may know, I am a "cutter". A few years ago, I wrote this:

"So unless you have lived my life, hush.
For the scars on the outside
Are nothing compared to those on the inside."

as part of a poem. I posted it on the internet a few years back when I wanted another forum I was posting on to help the people on there understand my reasoning. Apparently, between then and now, almost every emo has taken this and used it as thier excuse to why they cut. I only learned this a few weeks ago when I posted it again on a thread here about self-injury. Fass said that it was every emo's rallying cry, or something like that. So I searched the internet, and I learned Fass wasn't kidding. It WAS every emo's rallying cry now. Now then, does this make me emo, as the fact that something I created is now being used by emos worldwide as a rallying cry? And I will answer nothing about the fact that I perform self-injury, so I wouldn't recommend you say anything about it.

You are their King! :eek:
[NS]Liasia
23-04-2006, 01:31
Yeah. Just saw Walk The Line a few days ago. I wouldn't call him any of the black-clothing-stereotypes.

Ray with white people:p
I love john stewart.
Homovox
23-04-2006, 01:32
i only pretend to be emo to seduce other emo boys. but when they try to converse about music i die.
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 01:33
You are their King! :eek:
If I am the king of emos I command them all to slit their wrists NOW! And after that, hang themselves!
IL Ruffino
23-04-2006, 01:34
i only pretend to be emo to seduce other emo boys. but when they try to converse about music i die.
:(
Thriceaddict
23-04-2006, 01:36
If I am the king of emos I command them all to slit their wrists NOW! And after that, hang themselves!
You should lead by example like a good king. ;)
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 01:36
i only pretend to be emo to seduce other emo boys. but when they try to converse about music i die.
Pretending to be emo is the first step on the path to being emo. I would recommend you shoot yourself now to save yourself the pain of being moronic and crying for no apparent reason besides the fact your boyfriend you've had for one day broke up with you.
IL Ruffino
23-04-2006, 01:36
If I am the king of emos I command them all to slit their wrists NOW! And after that, hang themselves!
Mmmmm you turn me on baby!
Lunatic Goofballs
23-04-2006, 01:37
If I am the king of emos I command them all to slit their wrists NOW! And after that, hang themselves!

Like they need THAT command. :p
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 01:37
You should lead by example like a good king. ;)
Ha ha. Very funny. Maybe if I become Christian they'll all become Christian!
Dinaverg
23-04-2006, 01:37
If I am the king of emos I command them all to slit their wrists NOW! And after that, hang themselves!

Feh, boring. Tell them to find a gun.
Dinaverg
23-04-2006, 01:38
Ha ha. Very funny. Maybe if I become Christian they'll all become Christian!

You should become Pastafarian.
DrunkenDove
23-04-2006, 01:47
You should become Pastafarian.

You've been touched by his noodly appendage too?
Dinaverg
23-04-2006, 01:48
You've been touched by his noodly appendage too?

:D
Homovox
23-04-2006, 01:57
Pretending to be emo is the first step on the path to being emo. I would recommend you shoot yourself now to save yourself the pain of being moronic and crying for no apparent reason besides the fact your boyfriend you've had for one day broke up with you.

i'm fairly confident that my sunny and sardonic demeanor coupled with my fantastic taste in music will form an impenitrable shield to protect me from emo stupidity.

but maybe i should get a haircut before it's too late.
Rebel_Strike
23-04-2006, 02:05
I hate Emos. I hate emos with a burning passion. But there are tons of them in my school, so i beat them all up. Then tell them to go cut themselves. There is an emo kid on my football team, hes creepy........

KILL ALL EMOS!!:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:


FUCK U!!:upyours:
Tactical Grace
23-04-2006, 02:06
It takes a special sort of narcissitic self-regard to feel any pride about a claim such as this. :rolleyes:

Self-harm is a fairly serious issue when genuine mental disorders are involved, and seeing kids from privileged backgrounds pretending their angst is such a big deal, indulging in self-harm as a form of counter-culture rebellion, that pisses me off. And boasting about one's involvement in all that, is pretty low.
Jerusalas
23-04-2006, 02:07
I hate Emos. I hate emos with a burning passion. But there are tons of them in my school, so i beat them all up. Then tell them to go cut themselves. There is an emo kid on my football team, hes creepy........

KILL ALL EMOS!!:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:


FUCK U!!:upyours:

I have this and only this to say to you sir:

http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/poopy.gif
Rebel_Strike
23-04-2006, 02:09
???????? Oh, horse shit, lol
Jerusalas
23-04-2006, 02:10
???????? Oh, horse shit, lol

Wishing for all emos to die is morally the same as wishing for all Jews to die.

I'll let you ponder that.
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 02:12
It takes a special sort of narcissitic self-regard to feel any pride about a claim such as this. :rolleyes:

Self-harm is a fairly serious issue when genuine mental disorders are involved, and seeing kids from privileged backgrounds pretending their angst is such a big deal, indulging in self-harm as a form of counter-culture rebellion, that pisses me off. And boasting about one's involvement in all that, is pretty low.
I'm not feeling pride about giving others a reason to cut themselves. And believe me, I'm NOT from a privileged background. Heck, my family is 30k in debt... And it may not be a mental disorder causing me to do this. But then again, I do consider life to be a mental disorder.
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 02:39
Mmmmm you turn me on baby!
Oh really? Well, what are you doing tomorrow night?
Rebel_Strike
23-04-2006, 02:42
Wishing for all emos to die is morally the same as wishing for all Jews to die.

I'll let you ponder that.
Meh, its just that the ppl at school really piss me off.......
Dinaverg
23-04-2006, 02:49
I'm not feeling pride about giving others a reason to cut themselves. And believe me, I'm NOT from a privileged background. Heck, my family is 30k in debt... And it may not be a mental disorder causing me to do this. But then again, I do consider life to be a mental disorder.

*shrug* We've got 15K, but I'm not doing half the things you are.
Peisandros
23-04-2006, 02:52
Seems pretty emo to me. 30k in debt? Is that all? Pathetic really.
Dinaverg
23-04-2006, 02:55
Seems pretty emo to me. 30k in debt? Is that all? Pathetic really.

And unless he's giving all that blood for money...I don't much see the point there either.
Hobovillia
23-04-2006, 03:02
Seems pretty emo to me. 30k in debt? Is that all? Pathetic really.
Huh, me mum is in 50k debt, lucky its a student loan though!:D Don't ya love NZ?
Naliitr
23-04-2006, 05:02
Seems pretty emo to me. 30k in debt? Is that all? Pathetic really.
Oh, and I've observed two of my pets die within the last year. And one of my family. OBSERVED.
Homovox
23-04-2006, 05:10
you really don't have to justify self-mutilation, since it's inherently irrational.
Zilam
23-04-2006, 05:43
No it just means you are a whiney little cry baby....or wait..same difference:p
Peisandros
23-04-2006, 06:00
Huh, me mum is in 50k debt, lucky its a student loan though!:D Don't ya love NZ?
Heh, good call. I can't wait to get my student loan :p.

Oh, and I've observed two of my pets die within the last year. And one of my family. OBSERVED.
Umm, that doesnt change that you're pathetic for bitching about a 30k debt.
Svalbardania
23-04-2006, 07:24
Umm, that doesnt change that you're pathetic for bitching about a 30k debt.

Oh leave him be, he was wondering whether he inadvertedly helped the emo craze along its path. The fact that he didn't seem proud of this suggests he isnt emo, so go bag a proper emo. They're much more fun anyway, if you look them in the eye they cry :p
Symbaril
23-04-2006, 10:00
Why do you all name yourselves after a silly bird?
Pantygraigwen
23-04-2006, 10:05
Johnny Cash wore black, too.

He wasn't an emo, a goth, or a punk.

Johnny Cash would have eaten Emo for breakfast. Then wrote a song about it.
Peisandros
23-04-2006, 10:11
Oh leave him be, he was wondering whether he inadvertedly helped the emo craze along its path. The fact that he didn't seem proud of this suggests he isnt emo, so go bag a proper emo. They're much more fun anyway, if you look them in the eye they cry :p
I guess your right...

MySpace, here I come! :p
New Zealandium
23-04-2006, 10:17
no, your not emo. emo is a semi-culture.
cutting releases endorphins as the body realises that there is no actual danger.
Essentially, you are addicted to drugs :>
unless you do it for the punishment side. in which case, you have *some* issues :>


Not emo.
Fascist Dominion
23-04-2006, 10:18
Ha. I love that song. No, I don't wear hot pink, eyeliner, nail polish, or tight clothes. I do not listen to any emo bands. I am NOT gay. Or bi. I don't cry every single damn day. I do wear black though. But it's more gothic-type clothing. Huge overcoats and trenchcoats and the like, not skimpy clothing.
You cut, so you're pretty damned close. You should stop that. If you wanna cut something for your anguish, make it other people, not yourself. Unless you intend to kill yourself, in which case you are emo and a coward.
Blackswamp
23-04-2006, 10:26
Emo, the most dreded of all lables.
Blackswamp
23-04-2006, 10:28
You cut, so you're pretty damned close. You should stop that. If you wanna cut something for your anguish, make it other people, not yourself. Unless you intend to kill yourself, in which case you are emo and a coward. K, cutting yourself or killing yourself isnt emo (though the latter is cowardly).
Jerusalas
23-04-2006, 10:36
You cut, so you're pretty damned close. You should stop that. If you wanna cut something for your anguish, make it other people, not yourself. Unless you intend to kill yourself, in which case you are emo and a coward.

Best way to get to cut other people is in the military....
Kilobugya
23-04-2006, 10:36
I would say that being an "emo", like many other "community", is much more a matter of your own consideration than anything else: you're an emo if you consider yourself to be one.

But then, why do you care so much about how you're labelling ? Well, I can understand that the way people look at you can affect you. But you shouldn't care too much about a word, IMHO.

For the rest of your message, I know it's a bit silly, but I do feel sorry for your "inner scars", and I hope the future will be better for you. Good luck ;)
Globalists
23-04-2006, 11:01
Huh, me mum is in 50k debt, lucky its a student loan though!:D Don't ya love NZ?

NZs the choicest mate. sweeeeet as.
Fascist Dominion
23-04-2006, 11:02
K, cutting yourself or killing yourself isnt emo (though the latter is cowardly).
No, but killing yourself by cutting is emo if there is a suicide note.
Fascist Dominion
23-04-2006, 11:03
Best way to get to cut other people is in the military....
Whatever boats your float.
Peisandros
23-04-2006, 11:14
NZs the choicest mate. sweeeeet as.
Ahh tu meke cuz! Heh
The blessed Chris
23-04-2006, 22:34
You cut, so you're pretty damned close. You should stop that. If you wanna cut something for your anguish, make it other people, not yourself. Unless you intend to kill yourself, in which case you are emo and a coward.

FUCK OFF

You have no concept, not even the slightest inkling of the anguish I endure at times. Therefore, do not judge me, or ce que j'ai deja fait.

(Oh dear god, not only have I read the OP's excerpt, I may have used it at times)
The blessed Chris
23-04-2006, 22:42
Meh, its just that the ppl at school really piss me off.......

What sort of football do you play?
Blood has been shed
23-04-2006, 22:46
Close just your right eye. If you can't see the PC anymore than you're emo. Simple.
Thriceaddict
23-04-2006, 22:47
FUCK OFF

You have no concept, not even the slightest inkling of the anguish I endure at times. Therefore, do not judge me, or ce que j'ai deja fait.

(Oh dear god, not only have I read the OP's excerpt, I may have used it at times)
What do you know?!
You're just an emo...
Golgan
23-04-2006, 23:06
I dunno about EMOs... I've been labelled an EMO kid plenty of times, but its really just because I like to draw things of a morbid/depressing nature. And I only do that because other emotions are less powerful in art (but this is a tangent).

I think that's all it is for a lot of EMOs. Their lives are boring, and instead of taking up a hobby like a sport or something similar, they blow their little day-to-day problems way out of proportion and wallow in their 'misery', just so they have something to do. They get the cutting fad from genuinely depressed EMO kids and get addicted to the endorphines. Most of then snap out of it after they get a real girlfriend/boyfriend.

Disclaimer: no attacks, plz, my art reflects in no way on my day-to-day life. The emotions in my art are, like those of EMO kids, fictional.
Fleckenstein
23-04-2006, 23:10
Close just your right eye. If you can't see the PC anymore than you're emo. Simple.

hehe. a half-hearted game of hind and go seek!
The ancient Republic
23-04-2006, 23:27
Speaking of emo-ytmnds...

http://attentionemokids.ytmnd.com/

http://orangestory.ytmnd.com/

http://emodarthvader.ytmnd.com/

http://arnoldisemo.ytmnd.com/

ah! My work here is done... :D
Undelia
23-04-2006, 23:42
Did you really write that originally? In that case you are the proto-emo.
Artiflaxia-Minksaja
23-04-2006, 23:54
ya, ytmnd rocks...
Naliitr
24-04-2006, 01:26
No, but killing yourself by cutting is emo if there is a suicide note.
Bah! Why should they know why I kill myself. I leave NO suicide note.
Scary Apples
24-04-2006, 05:32
Emo is not short for Emotional, when the fuck did everyone start calling it this anyway!?!
Emo does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, (despite what MTV has lead you to believe).
Emo is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships.
So fuck off to all you who say it is ya fucking metro punks

In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as Emotive Hardcore band like Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and to a lesser extent Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner and I Would Set Myself On Fire For You. The term was coined as an insult to the kids who liked Rites Of Spring, and the new wave of emotive hardcore.

the only thing true emo and todays "emo" has in common is that they're both insults. fuuuuuuck...
Svalbardania
24-04-2006, 06:17
Emo is not short for Emotional, when the fuck did everyone start calling it this anyway!?!
Emo does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, (despite what MTV has lead you to believe).
Emo is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships.
So fuck off to all you who say it is ya fucking metro punks

In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as Emotive Hardcore band like Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and to a lesser extent Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner and I Would Set Myself On Fire For You. The term was coined as an insult to the kids who liked Rites Of Spring, and the new wave of emotive hardcore.

the only thing true emo and todays "emo" has in common is that they're both insults. fuuuuuuck...

Didn't know that. But it doesn't change much, we could call all todays emo's cunting-dickwads, if it makes you feel any better.
Kinda Sensible people
24-04-2006, 06:41
Emo is not short for Emotional, when the fuck did everyone start calling it this anyway!?!
Emo does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, (despite what MTV has lead you to believe).
Emo is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships.
So fuck off to all you who say it is ya fucking metro punks

In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as Emotive Hardcore band like Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and to a lesser extent Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner and I Would Set Myself On Fire For You. The term was coined as an insult to the kids who liked Rites Of Spring, and the new wave of emotive hardcore.

the only thing true emo and todays "emo" has in common is that they're both insults. fuuuuuuck...

You forgot Fugazi. :p

It annoys me as well, as I enjoy more political Emo-core, but too often have to explain to people that Post-Hardcore is not Emo at all.
Kinda Sensible people
24-04-2006, 06:45
FUCK OFF

You have no concept, not even the slightest inkling of the anguish I endure at times. Therefore, do not judge me, or ce que j'ai deja fait.

*rolls eyes*

Are you starving on the streets without clothing or shelter? Has your entire family died? Do you live every day in (reasonable) fear of being mugged, raped, or killed?

That sorta thing is real cause for anguish. Breaking up with some girl, or being "un-understood" by your parents is not cause for anguish. That sort of nonsense whining is exactly the reason that "emo"-kids have earned so much scorn in today's world. They have no basis for being upset.
Kroisistan
24-04-2006, 07:56
The argument that 'well an emo is world's better off than a starving african kid, and the starving african is cheery so stfu(and the MANY similar arguments)' is unfair. Think about it, a starving african kid who's feeling fine does so because he's living in low human development every day, and may not know anything different. Since he's used to his conditions, then things would have to get shittier to wipe that feeling of 'meh, it's okay' from his face. (look at refugees. I've seen plenty of photos of crying refugees, and litte-to-no happy ones. They are now in a shitty situation, and are not used to it, hence unhappiness, whereas the African child might have the same level of shitty situation, but is okay with it)

Compare that to a middle-class white boy. He feels 'meh, it's okay' in a high human development world. Why? Cause the middle-class white boy is, again, used to the situation. For him to feel upset(go emo), something bad would have to happen, just as to the African child. The difference? When things get worse for the middle-class white boy, his OVERALL condition is still much better than the African child. Even so, he gets sad. It's easy for you who want to sip that haterade to say 'but compared to the African child, the Emokid's got so much!' But you're ignoring what I'm trying to say - happiness is relative to what you define as your normal situation, making your argument unfair.

But more to the point - By what right does anyone here judge those they label 'emo?' So what if, in your opinion(which we KNOW has never been incorrect, and is the Official Barometer of Life, Truth and Everything(TM)), the 'emo' has nothing to be sad about? This is for the most part a free world, where we as individuals have the right to be happy or sad on our own terms. Many people here, sadly enough, have trouble dealing with that. Ironically enough, if this were about gays and their choice to live how they see fit, I KNOW many of you would be standing here with me. Hypocricy's a bitch, and many of you should be ashamed.
Kinda Sensible people
24-04-2006, 08:06
The argument that 'well an emo is world's better off than a starving african kid, and the starving african is cheery so stfu(and the MANY similar arguments)' is unfair. Think about it, a starving african kid who's feeling fine does so because he's living in low human development every day, and may not know anything different. Since he's used to his conditions, then things would have to get shittier to wipe that feeling of 'meh, it's okay' from his face. (look at refugees. I've seen plenty of photos of crying refugees, and litte-to-no happy ones. They are now in a shitty situation, and are not used to it, hence unhappiness, whereas the African child might have the same level of shitty situation, but is okay with it)

Compare that to a middle-class white boy. He feels 'meh, it's okay' in a high human development world. Why? Cause the middle-class white boy is, again, used to the situation. For him to feel upset(go emo), something bad would have to happen, just as to the African child. The difference? When things get worse for the middle-class white boy, his OVERALL condition is still much better than the African child. Even so, he gets sad. It's easy for you who want to sip that haterade to say 'but compared to the African child, the Emokid's got so much!' But you're ignoring what I'm trying to say - happiness is relative to what you define as your normal situation, making your argument unfair.

But more to the point - By what right does anyone here judge those they label 'emo?' So what if, in your opinion(which we KNOW has never been incorrect, and is the Official Barometer of Life, Truth and Everything(TM)), the 'emo' has nothing to be sad about? This is for the most part a free world, where we as individuals have the right to be happy or sad on our own terms. Many people here, sadly enough, have trouble dealing with that. Ironically enough, if this were about gays and their choice to live how they see fit, I KNOW many of you would be standing here with me. Hypocricy's a bitch, and many of you should be ashamed.

The right to live a certain way and the reasonable nature of living that way are two different things. There is nothing logical about an "Emo" who is sad even though they have it pretty damn good. If I was a multimillionare who never had to work and I suddenly had to work and became depressed about it , would I have the logical perogative to become "Emo"? Of course not! People would point out that I was a spoiled rich bastard who finally was being forced to earn my way in life.

Just because you get used to something doesn't mean that being forced to live a different way makes it logical to become "Emo". "Emo"'s really don't have anything to complain about. They don't have it bad (hell, many of them have it good), but they're posing for sympathy and attention. The whole dissafected teenage "Look what the world does to me" nonsense is the height of melodrama, and looking at it that way is completely rational.
Maineiacs
24-04-2006, 09:11
Back when I was a teen, it was called depression.
BackwoodsSquatches
24-04-2006, 10:15
I dunno about EMOs... I've been labelled an EMO kid plenty of times, but its really just because I like to draw things of a morbid/depressing nature. And I only do that because other emotions are less powerful in art (but this is a tangent).

I havent seen your art, but I disagree.

Emotions when put into art, with a skilled hand, are equally powerful.
No one is more so than the other.
A piece that evokes joy, is no better than one that invokes sorrow.
Just different.

I think youre probably just better ( or more likely more familiar) with creating pieces of art that evoke sorrow and pain.

Nothing wrong with that, its just probably what draws you more.



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Scary Apples
24-04-2006, 10:25
Didn't know that. But it doesn't change much, we could call all todays emo's cunting-dickwads, if it makes you feel any better.

it would ... or we could all rally in the streets and lynch all the emos ... yes, that plan is very existential.
Scary Apples
24-04-2006, 10:33
[QUOTE=Kinda Sensible people]You forgot Fugazi. :p

...i was aware of that... let nothing more be said.
Jello Biafra
24-04-2006, 11:42
as part of a poem. I posted it on the internet a few years back when I wanted another forum I was posting on to help the people on there understand my reasoning. Um...didn't you say you were thirteen?
Lashie
24-04-2006, 12:34
As many of you may know, I am a "cutter". A few years ago, I wrote this:

"So unless you have lived my life, hush.
For the scars on the outside
Are nothing compared to those on the inside."

as part of a poem. I posted it on the internet a few years back when I wanted another forum I was posting on to help the people on there understand my reasoning. Apparently, between then and now, almost every emo has taken this and used it as thier excuse to why they cut. I only learned this a few weeks ago when I posted it again on a thread here about self-injury. Fass said that it was every emo's rallying cry, or something like that. So I searched the internet, and I learned Fass wasn't kidding. It WAS every emo's rallying cry now. Now then, does this make me emo, as the fact that something I created is now being used by emos worldwide as a rallying cry? And I will answer nothing about the fact that I perform self-injury, so I wouldn't recommend you say anything about it.

Define emo. Then I'll answer your question.
Mauvasia
24-04-2006, 12:59
<snip>
Actually, it sounds more as though you are/were going through some kind of depression, which is a highly common phase of adolescence. For many 10-17 year-olds, and sometimes further, the world becomes starkly divided into black and white, with the smallest injustices or problems blown ridiculously out of proportion with larger world issues that do not directly affect one making much less of a ripple within the consciousness. In other words, I wouldn't assign you to any stereotypes; in a few years or less you will come to realise that all of your miseries and anxieties are out of scale with the rest of the world, and perhaps even learn to enjoy a life with as little pain or possible (that or convert to Sufism or Mahayana Buddhism, your choice).

Just my 2p.
Hokan
24-04-2006, 13:02
Yes because you wrote a short poem piece is the reason all the emo bands have popped up, it's the reason people go through massive depression, in fact it is the core of teenager angst.
I have never seen someone actually claiming to be the start of emo'ness but believe me, you're not.

It has more to do with an age old teenager rebellious stage mixing with the free-speech liberal functionings of the 21st century.
Kroisistan
24-04-2006, 18:31
The right to live a certain way and the reasonable nature of living that way are two different things. There is nothing logical about an "Emo" who is sad even though they have it pretty damn good. If I was a multimillionare who never had to work and I suddenly had to work and became depressed about it , would I have the logical perogative to become "Emo"? Of course not! People would point out that I was a spoiled rich bastard who finally was being forced to earn my way in life.

Just because you get used to something doesn't mean that being forced to live a different way makes it logical to become "Emo". "Emo"'s really don't have anything to complain about. They don't have it bad (hell, many of them have it good), but they're posing for sympathy and attention. The whole dissafected teenage "Look what the world does to me" nonsense is the height of melodrama, and looking at it that way is completely rational.

I never said it was logical. I'm saying the counter argument of 'look, your situation may have gotten shittier, but you have no right to be depressed because you're better than a third party' is a crappy and unfair argument.

I doubt it's ever rational to be suicidal, or to be in extreme anguish. But it is far more understandable than most of the emo-haters are willing to acknowledge.
Seosavists
24-04-2006, 18:56
http://www.emooil.com/
It's real. /\ /\

:D
http://www.emooil.com/images/home_emo.gif
ShooFlee
24-04-2006, 20:42
http://www.emooil.com/
It's real. /\ /\

:D
http://www.emooil.com/images/home_emo.gif
:p I thought that was going to be laughing at their oily, unwashed--I mean, sexy and touseled--hair.
Bogmihia
24-04-2006, 21:29
Oh, and I've observed two of my pets die within the last year. And one of my family. OBSERVED.
Have you observed one of your pets die when you were nine? Have you carried the very stiff, cold and dead body of a relative from the floor, where you found it, to the bed?
Svalbardania
03-05-2006, 06:22
I know this thread is old, but I just had an idea. If this guy is the king of Emos, then surely he more than any other person has the best chance of getting the whole "Blood of a thousand virgins" thing.

Think about it.
Naliitr
03-05-2006, 14:27
You fucking revived this? YOU FUCKING REVIVED THIS?!?!?! GOD DAMNIT MAN! DO YOU HAVE NO COMMON SENSE WHAT SO EVER?!?! We're doomed, we're all doomed!
People without names
03-05-2006, 14:29
i think if you post a thread titled "Does this mean I'm emo?" means your emo
The Gate Builders
03-05-2006, 14:42
Um...didn't you say you were thirteen?

I want this answered!

And you probably are emo. Go get yourself a dozen whiney MySpace accounts!
Naliitr
03-05-2006, 14:45
Um...didn't you say you were thirteen?
Yeah. I started when I was ten, after my uncle and his wife were murdered. Sad how young I started, isn't it? Besides that there was a lot of pressure on my life, my parents were at the height of thier verbal abusiveness, etc. etc. And TGB, I only have one MySpace account. And I don't whine on it.
The Gate Builders
03-05-2006, 14:47
Oh, be quiet. Let me generalise the emo things.
Pure Metal
03-05-2006, 14:47
http://www.hlj.me.uk/pics/Copy%20of%20emo%20oil.jpg

time to grease up... ;) :D
The Gate Builders
03-05-2006, 14:49
Xd
Svalbardania
04-05-2006, 03:48
You fucking revived this? YOU FUCKING REVIVED THIS?!?!?! GOD DAMNIT MAN! DO YOU HAVE NO COMMON SENSE WHAT SO EVER?!?! We're doomed, we're all doomed!

I know, I know, but heaping abuse on emos is fun.