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Hi, my question for you is simple.

How long do we Humans have left on this Planet, or if you prefer, how long do we have left living life in Civillisations as we do now?

I'd say our Civillisation will have seen it's end by the 22nd Century- Global Warming coupled with no more Oil. Shame we're not moving away from Oil now while we can...

Your thoughts? Should be interesting.

Until 2012.

Why?

2052 is when the mayans AND the egyptians said and they BOTH had pyramids! i think someone is trying to point something out already! So anyway i think 2012 too... lol:p

lol im goin now so like cya!

Until 2012.
more specifically, december 21, 2012 at 10:24

you are so funny mister!

I say in a year or two.. thats when my.. umm.. nevermind.

*evil giggle*

*walks off*

more specifically, december 21, 2012 at 10:24
am or pm?

Cilizations are meant to last on average for 10,000 years, for all we know, there may have been several human like civilizatiosn before us, but all evidence of them has been destroyed by ice ages etc.etc.

What exactly do you reckon will be the cause of the end of civilization? I doubt it would be war, as mad as humans may be, I doubt they would manage to obliterate themselves completely.

Global Warming, Probably not, although it will drstically change the world, a great deal of people would survive. The earth naturally heats up and cools down. (It was a huge desert in the time of t-rex :P)

Starvation, nope, Population grows like this: 2, 4, 8, 16 etc.
food production increases like this: 2, 4, 6, 8
so the worst that could happen would be that the earths population would be cut down to a sustainable level.

Just as soon as my doomsday device is complete.

about 12 minutes after bush hits the nuke button...

lol im goin now so like cya!
Lyke, ok! Lol!

*checks watch*

About 3 hours.

*checks watch*

About 3 hours.

whats going to happen in 3 hours?!?

i think we have until we evolve past the definition of human.

Just as soon as my doomsday device is complete.
Wanna join up and get to our goal faster?

about 12 minutes after bush hits the nuke button...

It'd be more 12 days- the American Nukes would have to stop and ask for directions :p

Just as soon as my doomsday device is complete.

General "Buck" Turgidson: Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines...

now.



















































oops. wrong button.

more specifically, december 21, 2012 at 10:24

I agree, and I heard it from a reliable source.







Art Bell's late night radio show. :D

Starvation, nope, Population grows like this: 2, 4, 8, 16 etc.
food production increases like this: 2, 4, 6, 8
so the worst that could happen would be that the earths population would be cut down to a sustainable level.
Food production won't necessarily increase like that. It has increased like that in the past, and since Malthus came up with his (frankly ridiculous) theory, but that's only because it grew to meet demand, as there was no point in it outstripping demand. In the future, food production won't increase like that because we're already reaching the limit of arable land, and technology to increase productivity isn't moving forwards as fast as it did 150 years ago.

The UN estimates the human population will level out at around 11 billion at most, because beyond that we won't be able to feed everyone.

i think we have until we evolve past the definition of human.

Thats a nice thought, but in what circumstances could Humans evolve? They just adapt their circumstances to suite themseleves... kinda cool when you think about it. :cool:

whats going to happen in 3 hours?!?
Jeez. Can't you just wait and see?

more specifically, december 21, 2012 at 10:24
Is that UTC? If not, what time zone is that in?

Wanna join up and get to our goal faster?
Have you got an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator handy?

Jeez. Can't you just wait and see?

:( ive never had patience...

Have you got an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator handy?
I think I've got one in my shed...

now.


oops. wrong button.
Weeeeeeeee! look at all the freed bunnies!

Have you got an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator handy?
A whole warehouse full of them. Saddam gave me them a while back.

:( ive never had patience...
Well, it's only about 2 hours and 52 minutes now. Just a little bit longer.

Have you got an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator handy?

if not we can steal it from marvin the martian...

more specifically, december 21, 2012 at 10:24

Right, Ive googled and all there is are websites trying to seel me stuff. So whats with the 21st of December 2012?

A whole warehouse full of them. Saddam gave me them a while back.
Make sure they aren't Q37s that can wreck a Doomsday machine.


Right, Ive googled and all there is are websites trying to seel me stuff. So whats with the 21st of December 2012?
I think it was a typo and he meant 31st.

:( ive never had patience...
*hands you some vodka and an REM cd*

Well, it's only about 2 hours and 52 minutes now. Just a little bit longer.


:( great. what am i going to do for 2 hours and 52 minutes?

I think I've got one in my shed...
Oh goody!

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7oa3s.gif

wtf?

am or pm?
AM. most of the world would write 10:24 pm as 22:24

as for what time zone...whichever the Mayans existed in.

*hands you some vodka and an REM cd*

*accepts*

that will go good with chocolate cake...

Right, Ive googled and all there is are websites trying to seel me stuff. So whats with the 21st of December 2012?
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html

Thankies

Oh goody!

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7oa3s.gif
I'll sell it for half your post count, and $36.79.

Make sure they aren't Q37s that can wreck a Doomsday machine.
Oh they're all good.

*accepts*

that will go good with chocolate cake...
Can I have that cake?

I'll sell it for half your post count, and $36.79.
I think I'll just watch where you put it and steal it when you're not looking.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7oeq8.jpg

Oh they're all good.
Do you mean you think a Q37 would work in a doomsday machine because I just ended up with a monday machine.

Can I have that cake?

noooo! *guards cake*

I think I'll just watch where you put it and steal it when you're not looking.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7oeq8.jpg
Oh, fine, you can have it. Just make sure you don't kill me, got it?

noooo! *guards cake*
I liberate this cake in the name of ermmm...







...*runs away with slice of cake*

I think I'll just watch where you put it and steal it when you're not looking.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7oeq8.jpg

beware of the Duck Dodgers and the Return of the 24 1/2 Century!
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2947/800pxmoviedodgers5dv.jpg

noooo! *guards cake*
:gundge:

I liberate this cake in the name of ermmm...







...*runs away with slice of cake*

how dare you! *evil eyes*

:gundge:
Was going to give some cake but is corrupted by it.
"Cake corrupts, absolute cake corrupts aboslutely"


how dare you! *evil eyes*
Nooooooo! Not "evil eyes"! Anything bu... A lot of... Some things but that!

beware of the Duck Dodgers and the Return of the 24 1/2 Century!
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2947/800pxmoviedodgers5dv.jpg
He doesn't look that tough to me.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7on7p.jpg

He may think he has the cake...

BUT I HAVE THE OOBER-CAKE!

*munches*

Alittle off-topic mind.

Wanna back on topic?

He doesn't look that tough to me.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7on7p.jpg

http://marsmovies.free.fr/duck/snapshot(173).jpg

Sorry we have a long and glorious future ahead of us. We'll get into space, build a Dyson sphere, then a topopolis, correct the sun so it doesn't explode, then eventually all suns. We'll spread throughout the galaxy aliens will be met with an open hand or a closed fist whichever is applicable. Eventually civilization will spread from one corner to of the galaxy to the next. Eventually every star will be surrounded by swarming Dyson spheres and nested in topoplii, eventually a great sphere will surround the heart of the galaxy and Man will walk on a livable biosphere millions of light years wide with an atmosphere breathable hundreds of miles up. In the end a Galactic Dyson sphere will surround the Milky Way and we will be as gods.

In the end, we will force the universe to collapse into a final singularity and exploit the fact that under such conditions the universe's computational capacity is advancing faster than the collapse.

We will outrun entropy.

We will simulate an infinite artificial galaxy of infinite possibility using this universe computer. We will live forever.

Or we'll destroy ourselves in a coupla years at most.

One or the other.

A whole warehouse full of them. Saddam gave me them a while back.
What? That lousey re-gifter! I had to go to six different Walmarts to find one for Xmas.

Sorry we have a long and glorious future ahead of us. We'll get into space, build a Dyson sphere, then a topopolis, correct the sun so it doesn't explode, then eventually all suns. We'll spread throughout the galaxy aliens will be met with an open hand or a closed fist whichever is applicable. Eventually civilization will spread from one corner to of the galaxy to the next. Eventually every star will be surrounded by swarming Dyson spheres and nested in topoplii, eventually a great sphere will surround the heart of the galaxy and Man will walk on a livable biosphere millions of light years wide with an atmosphere breathable hundreds of miles up. In the end a Galactic Dyson sphere will surround the Milky Way and we will be as gods.

In the end, we will force the universe to collapse into a final singularity and exploit the fact that under such conditions the universe's computational capacity is advancing faster than the collapse.

We will outrun entropy.

We will simulate an infinite artificial galaxy of infinite possibility using this universe computer. We will live forever.

Or we'll destroy ourselves in a coupla years at most.

One or the other.


Lol, you had me going there.

What? That lousey re-gifter! I had to go to six different Walmarts to find one for Xmas.

i heard several people were trampled trying to get them...

more specifically, december 21, 2012 at 10:24

12/21/2012 10:24? Weird....

Is that UTC? If not, what time zone is that in?

All of them, each time zone ends every hour.

Have you got an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator handy?

Haha...Marvin....*snicker*

beware of the Duck Dodgers and the Return of the 24 1/2 Century!
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2947/800pxmoviedodgers5dv.jpg

Return? Tha heck?

http://marsmovies.free.fr/duck/snapshot(173).jpg
That's why I brought out the big guns, and some backup.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7ouj6.gif

i heard several people were trampled trying to get them...
Well, old ladies really shouldn't be the first lined up at the door. I do feel sorry for stepping on her with my golf shoes.

2035, though the pessimists say 2029.

http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/SINGULAR.html

If you're too lazy, that's when some shit happens that has something to do with a mathematical plot of human socio-technological developments....yadda, yadda, yadaa.... Long story short, technological developments will become instantaneous and it will somehow lead to a technological apocalypse. Probably all human consciousness becoming linked by an ubernet...or AI.

2035, though the pessimists say 2029.

http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/SINGULAR.html

If you're too lazy, that's when some shit happens that has something to do with a mathematical plot of human socio-technological developments....yadda, yadda, yadaa.... Long story short, technological developments will become instantaneous and it will somehow lead to a technological apocalypse. Probably all human consciousness becoming linked by an ubernet...or AI.

I thought it was called an asymptote...

That's why I brought out the big guns, and some backup.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7ouj6.gif

ive got back up too... http://marsmovies.free.fr/haredevil/snapshot(64).jpg

silly martians... http://marsmovies.free.fr/hasty_hare/Image46.jpg

ive got back up too... http://marsmovies.free.fr/haredevil/snapshot(64).jpg

silly martians... http://marsmovies.free.fr/hasty_hare/Image46.jpg
You win. Well played sir.

2035, though the pessimists say 2029.

http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/SINGULAR.html

If you're too lazy, that's when some shit happens that has something to do with a mathematical plot of human socio-technological developments....yadda, yadda, yadaa.... Long story short, technological developments will become instantaneous and it will somehow lead to a technological apocalypse. Probably all human consciousness becoming linked by an ubernet...or AI.
What? The singularity is going to rule, man! It ain't gonna suck!

You win. Well played sir.

:D well we know how it will end... http://marsmovies.free.fr/haredevil/haredevil_end.jpg

What? The singularity is going to rule, man! It ain't gonna suck!
It will only suck because it is part of a Communist Plot.

What? The singularity is going to rule, man! It ain't gonna suck!

I think thats partly describing Google :P. BUT all thought linked together would suck profoundly. Im a sucker for Indivisuality, and so are too many people for that sorta thing to work.

Unless we were forced....

It will only suck because it is part of a Communist Plot.
No! Get da nukes...yah, that'll be the end of the world!

-McArthy.

Well, old ladies really shouldn't be the first lined up at the door. I do feel sorry for stepping on her with my golf shoes.


she will get her revenge...

http://www.lopatka.net/Thanksgiving05/grandma-gun.jpg

I think thats partly describing Google :P. BUT all thought linked together would suck profoundly. Im a sucker for Indivisuality, and so are too many people for that sorta thing to work.

Unless we were forced....
No, you're talking about the idiot singularity, not the good, Ray Kurzwiel singularity. Ray Kurzwiel singularity pwns Pessimist singularity. :D

I know the mayan calendar ends in 2012, but us that just a stupid thing like the millenium bug, ie just a badly planned calendar? or did they actually think the world would end?

she will get her revenge...

http://www.lopatka.net/Thanksgiving05/grandma-gun.jpg
Awe, that is so cute. :)

I know the mayan calendar ends in 2012, but us that just a stupid thing like the millenium bug, ie just a badly planned calendar? or did they actually think the world would end?
Nah. It's just the longest period of time they had (imaginatively called the 'long count'). I think the one we're in at the moment is the fifth. Basically, they had a creation myth (like everyone else), and on Dec. 21st 2012 it'll be the end of the fifth long count from the time the world was supposedly created.

I know the mayan calendar ends in 2012, but us that just a stupid thing like the millenium bug, ie just a badly planned calendar? or did they actually think the world would end?
Yes, but this time all the worlds computers will crash. Why? Because itis technology and you do not understand it.

we will all die in five billion years when the sun becomes a red giant...

Five billion is when it finnally runs out, it should expand in about a billion.

oh, damn...

Only one and a half hours now...

Only one and a half hours now...

whas.....whas.....whas gunna happen?

Only one and a half hours now...

hmmm, ive a feeling alot of people are going to be very disappointed around Midnight :P.

Nobodies even mentioned the Zorgon fleet coming and blowing Earth up yet!

At the end of 2012, my good man. The mayan calendar says it, one pope said it without realizing it, quite a few secular religions say it. At the end of 2012, we're all dead.

At the end of 2012, my good man. The mayan calendar says it, one pope said it without realizing it, quite a few secular religions say it. At the end of 2012, we're all dead.

You realize the mayan thing is sorta random right?

:( great. what am i going to do for 2 hours and 52 minutes?


according to my calculations..only 3 mins now.

Two minutes...

we will all die in five billion years when the sun becomes a red giant...


Oh yeah...we all know thats a lie created by the left wing extremists.:rolleyes:

Two minutes...
*kicks a puppy one last time*

Two minutes...


well...it seems you pulled a jehovah's witness on us all..thanks alot!

Oh yeah...we all know thats a lie created by the left wing extremists.:rolleyes:
Stupid leftists.

Erm...sorry guys. Guess I was wrong. There's a first time for everything.;)

Erm...sorry guys. Guess I was wrong. There's a first time for everything.;)


i feel so lied to...

Look, the Earth will end in about fifty years, however, humanity, in the form of me, my laptop, and the Encylopedia Britainicca well survive for another three billion years, by which I should have perfected time travel so I can go back and save a couple other people, so in three billion years they can save a couple more and so on and so forth.

6 years.

Look, the Earth will end in about fifty years, however, humanity, in the form of me, my laptop, and the Encylopedia Britainicca well survive for another three billion years, by which I should have perfected time travel so I can go back and save a couple other people, so in three billion years they can save a couple more and so on and so forth.

Pay it Forward?

Pay it Forward?

Top of my head actually. What's Pay it Forward?

Top of my head actually. What's Pay it Forward?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_Forward

oh, damn...

It is actually less than a Billion before we can no longer live on Earth, read a very interesting article about it on Space.com. Perhaps I will dig it up.

It is actually less than a Billion before we can no longer live on Earth, read a very interesting article about it on Space.com. Perhaps I will dig it up.

please do. then post it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_Forward

Kind of like that then. Only with time travel and apocalypses. And the Encylopedia Britannica.

You realize the mayan thing is sorta random right?
Do you know how many other Prophets predicted the end at 2012, most of whom have had no contact with the Mayan or thier belief that the world will end at the end of 2012?

i feel so lied to...
I'd get used to it, if I were you.

Do you know how many other Prophets predicted the end at 2012, most of whom have had no contact with the Mayan or thier belief that the world will end at the end of 2012?

Yeah...but seriously, Mayan thing is just that 5 long counts thing mentioned previously.

we may have only 20 yrs to turn things around in regards to global warming(it maybe already too late), civilization as we know it could end in 100 yrs with surviving populations living only in the northern latitudes.......

we may have only 20 yrs to turn things around in regards to global warming(it maybe already too late), civilization as we know it could end in 100 yrs with surviving populations living only in the northern latitudes.......
I'm in the northern latitudes. Yay.

extreme northern, north of 60, not much soil for farming that far north.

extreme northern, north of 60, not much soil for farming that far north.
Then I'm moving to Canada.

2035, though the pessimists say 2029.

http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/SINGULAR.html

If you're too lazy, that's when some shit happens that has something to do with a mathematical plot of human socio-technological developments....yadda, yadda, yadaa.... Long story short, technological developments will become instantaneous and it will somehow lead to a technological apocalypse. Probably all human consciousness becoming linked by an ubernet...or AI.


isn't that what people said about Y2K?

I'm afraid we don't have long at all. We have 45 days (as of now, April 22). Then it will be June 06. Therefore, the numerical date will be 06/06/06.
Other than that, every bottle of root beer I've ever gotten between a month ago and today has had an expiry date of June 05, so obviously, the day after that, they will all go bad because the world will end.

isn't that what people said about Y2K?
Y2k was just speculation with not a lot facts to back it up......global warming is happening the evidence is there, it's no longer a theory......what isn't known is how fast it will occur, are temp increases constant or will it accelerate....

Humanity will last until we are conquered by Damn Dirty Apes!!! developed by scientists at the Yerkes Lab here in Atlanta GA. They're trying to create a super intellegent hybrid ape that is a cross between Chimps, Gorillas and Orangutans.

Humanity will last until we are conquered by Damn Dirty Apes!!! developed by scientists at the Yerkes Lab here in Atlanta GA. They're trying to create a super intellegent hybrid ape that is a cross between Chimps, Gorillas and Orangutans.
They'll just out with humans.

EDITSU: ...come out. I meant come out. Stupid damned website eating half my post...

Do you know how many other Prophets predicted the end at 2012, most of whom have had no contact with the Mayan or thier belief that the world will end at the end of 2012?

You mean like the Bible Codists? Who also predicted that WWIII would start after nuclear weapons built by Iraq were found in some valley in Syria in 2005?

And the Mayan calendar doesn't say 'the end of the world' it says 'the end of this cycle of creation'. Supposedly, what happened at the end of the last cycle of creation was that all of man's devices turned against him.

They'll just out with humans.

EDITSU: ...come out. I meant come out. Stupid damned website eating half my post...


Um....I don't think apes will be into that. I can't picture an ape with a women. :confused:

about 12 minutes after bush hits the nuke button...

has anyone sean end of ze world?
this is a video about humans last day.
eather this will happen or were all going to die from a man thats calls himself (Lord Zoom) and his crew of waked and high ppl.
ok the video link is here, http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/world.htm , and were going to kill eachother in the end.
and if the last link didnt work try this http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end.php


As I raise my weapon of choice a voice calls out, faint at first but then notice able. Will-"is the giant snake flat footed?". every one plus DM-"Yes Will its flat footed."

:sniper: thats Lord Zoom. :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :gundge: :gundge: :mp5: :mp5: thats his crew of high ppl (there all white, no ofens non white ppl.).

Erm...sorry guys. Guess I was wrong. There's a first time for everything.;)
Well, thank goodness. Because I was watching Galactica and it would have sucked if the end of the world came in the middle of the episode.

Until the the solar storm around 2011.

extreme northern, north of 60, not much soil for farming that far north.

Hah! I live at 70! So long, suckers!

And there is actually a farm on this island.

Y2k was just speculation with not a lot facts to back it up......global warming is happening the evidence is there, it's no longer a theory......what isn't known is how fast it will occur, are temp increases constant or will it accelerate....
No, no. Singularity and Y2K have nothing to do with each other. Y2K was potentially a very big problem, the extents of which were really unknown but no one wanted to stick around to see what would happen. So, they threw lots and lots of money to solve it. And they did solve it, that's why nothing happened, except for a glitch here and there. Granted, some of the effects (like planes falling from the sky at midnight, or every service just turning off) were pure catastrophist fantasy. Does any one know somebody who admits having spent New Year's eve 2000 hunkered down in a bunker?

The Singularity is when technology has advanced far enough to allow humans to trascend biology, mortality, or both. This could mean that our consciousness can be stored inside a computer to live forever in a vitual universe, or inside a cyborg body, or control cellular ageing, etc. It is, however, speculation, and meant to provoke thought about the future of technology rather than predict it.

please do. then post it...

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/death_of_earth_000224.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/earth_move_010207.html

I figure that when the water in the Oglalla Acquifier runs out in about 25-30 years, turning the breadbasked of American into a dust bowl, that will set in motion the chain of events that will lead to the downfall of modern civilization.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/death_of_earth_000224.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/earth_move_010207.html
http://www.space.com/images/h_in_sun_redgiant_03.gif
Damn you, McDonalds! You and your deep fried food and fatty burgers!!!
* shakes fist *

"The sun is getting brighter with time and that affects the Earth's climate," Kasting said. "Eventually temperatures will become high enough so that the oceans evaporate."

Source of global warming or conservative conspiracy?

And the Mayan calendar doesn't say 'the end of the world' it says 'the end of this cycle of creation'. Supposedly, what happened at the end of the last cycle of creation was that all of man's devices turned against him.

Man, I've got to get myself some more dildos/vibrators.

Nothing can kill us! We're invicible! Bring it on universe we'll kick your ass! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

I say we have a few million years left.

Man, I've got to get myself some more dildos/vibrators.

Which will work out so well after they've rammed themselves down your throat and you're choking to death on them...?

People need to stop talking about "running out of oil," like the tank is going to hit empty or something.

As oil becomes more scarce, prices will rise, lowering demand for oil, forcibly weaning people off it. Of course, as this happens, there will be declines in productivity from energy shortages, combined with effects of both severe inflation and unemployment. Energy-intensive industrial agriculture may suffer, and electrical grids may fail, as the market attempts to adjust for energy substitutes which simply don't exist. Famine and geopolitical conflict may ensue, but even then, it's not necessarily an end-of the world scenario.

Don't get me wrong, though, I do believe there are dark times ahead.

extreme northern, north of 60, not much soil for farming that far north.
There will be if Global warming has its way.

Hi, my question for you is simple.

How long do we Humans have left on this Planet, or if you prefer, how long do we have left living life in Civillisations as we do now?

I'd say our Civillisation will have seen it's end by the 22nd Century- Global Warming coupled with no more Oil. Shame we're not moving away from Oil now while we can...

Your thoughts? Should be interesting.

Three days, four hours, twenty one minutes.
No reason. I just know it.:)

civilization in any meaningful sense of the word, has yet to be invented. oil based tecnology and economics will of course end, and with it a lot of things we take for granted will be wildly altered or simply not be there at all. while this could, for all we know, take a few centuries, it could just as easily and more likely is, no more then a matter of a few decades, if that.

if we wait for fuel shortages alone to stop us from being able to keep adding to global warming, well that could take a few centuries, cause there's still a lot more coal in the ground then there is oil.

but we don't need to wait for anything to run out to reduce and ultimately eliminate our dependence on combustion to generate energy and propel transportation. nor need it take nature forcing us to see the advantages of doing so.

other factors could contribute to forcing us to have to rethink our core values.

the radicly altered weather paterns resaulting from global warming could themselves play a major role in our doing so. as could global economic colapse. all three of these things concatinating as they seem to be converging upon will most likely do the trick.

then a lot of people will starve. and those that survive will look at things very differently. especialy what they will come to realize is more and less important.

we could save ourselves a lot future, and possibly quite near future, pain, right now, by considering our priorities and the kind on incentives they actualy create.

we could even invent civilization. before nature and reality forces us to.

=^^=
.../\...

We'll have "Left" for as long as we exist!

Or at least, for as long as I exist, considering I am left-handed.

And I am sure there are many other left-handers that will continue to advocate for the word "left" continuing to exist.

Of course, it might change, and I suppose it will in two hundred years.


As to the actual question: Don't bother to ask. Chances are you won't be alive when it happens (assuming we don't blow ourselves up, but then I just hope we won't even know).

civilization in any meaningful sense of the word, has yet to be invented. oil based tecnology and economics will of course end, and with it a lot of things we take for granted will be wildly altered or simply not be there at all. while this could, for all we know, take a few centuries, it could just as easily and more likely is, no more then a matter of a few decades, if that.

if we wait for fuel shortages alone to stop us from being able to keep adding to global warming, well that could take a few centuries, cause there's still a lot more coal in the ground then there is oil.

but we don't need to wait for anything to run out to reduce and ultimately eliminate our dependence on combustion to generate energy and propel transportation. nor need it take nature forcing us to see the advantages of doing so.

other factors could contribute to forcing us to have to rethink our core values.

the radicly altered weather paterns resaulting from global warming could themselves play a major role in our doing so. as could global economic colapse. all three of these things concatinating as they seem to be converging upon will most likely do the trick.

then a lot of people will starve. and those that survive will look at things very differently. especialy what they will come to realize is more and less important.

we could save ourselves a lot future, and possibly quite near future, pain, right now, by considering our priorities and the kind on incentives they actualy create.

we could even invent civilization. before nature and reality forces us to.

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As fancy and well thought out as that is, I disagree.

We *have* invented Civillisation. The Pyramids, The Roman Empire (just in general :P), Religion, Science, Law and Order, Government and Democracy.

That said, our Civilisation is far from perfect. Your right in saying we have our priorities mixed up. And, civilisation isn't permament, infact its very easily lost. It depends on everyone doing their jobs (at least for it to grow) and hangs on the Important People doing their jobs well (the Police, Firemen etc).
We lost it in the Dark Ages (least in Europe), and it took us Centuries to get it back.

I think that might happen. We'll lose our Civilisation. Then, slowly rebuild, getting alittle further than we are now. Then we'll lose it again. Then, again, we'll rebuild and get alittle further. Eventually, we probably will get past that (when we get to space :P).

Just think, in 2000 years, people might be going around the Ruins of your House or your City. The Aztecs probably never thought their Cities would become ruins, but they did.

Hmmmmm, trying to imagine Big Ben covered in Greenery and there no real life around it...

Creepy.

You're all wrong.

The year 2112 is the end of it all.

There will be if Global warming has its way.

Nope, the soil is no good for farming even once the permafrost thaws.

Nothing can kill us! We're invicible! Bring it on universe we'll kick your ass! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

Too bad the Universe will win in the end, when it expands so much that we will live in a dark and cold Universe with no light to be seen...

But, Voyager 1 and 2 will still be around to tell our story.

The dinosaurs lasted millions of years, and humans will last even longer. I mean, even if a massive plague killed of 99% of the population, really, there would still be SOME people who survive. Remember that the Black Death killed "only" 1/2 of the world population at the time. The fact is, there are 6 billion people on Earth, and some of them will be genetically resistant to any plague, or hide in some mine shaft somewhere like in Professor Strangelove. Even if a giant asteriod hit and covered the world in smoke, humans are extremely intelligent and adaptive and would find some way to survive. Hell, the mammals in prehistoric times survived a meteor strike, and so can we.

As for the distant future, "humans" as we know them will probably exist in small numbers, if at all, because we will probably have all kinds of genetic enhancements that make us more survivable. But there are just soo many people, and humans are just soo adaptive, that I see us existing for a very long time.

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The dinosaurs lasted millions of years, and humans will last even longer. I mean, even if a massive plague killed of 99% of the population, really, there would still be SOME people who survive. Remember that the Black Death killed "only" 1/2 of the world population at the time. The fact is, there are 6 billion people on Earth, and some of them will be genetically resistant to any plague, or hide in some mine shaft somewhere like in Professor Strangelove. Even if a giant asteriod hit and covered the world in smoke, humans are extremely intelligent and adaptive and would find some way to survive. Hell, the mammals in prehistoric times survived a meteor strike, and so can we.

As for the distant future, "humans" as we know them will probably exist in small numbers, if at all, because we will probably have all kinds of genetic enhancements that make us more survivable. But there are just soo many people, and humans are just soo adaptive, that I see us existing for a very long time.

I thought it killed a third of Europe's poulation...But otherwise, yeah, .01% of all humanity is 600,000...

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from when?

The dinosaurs lasted millions of years, and humans will last even longer. I mean, even if a massive plague killed of 99% of the population, really, there would still be SOME people who survive. Remember that the Black Death killed "only" 1/2 of the world population at the time. The fact is, there are 6 billion people on Earth, and some of them will be genetically resistant to any plague, or hide in some mine shaft somewhere like in Professor Strangelove. Even if a giant asteriod hit and covered the world in smoke, humans are extremely intelligent and adaptive and would find some way to survive. Hell, the mammals in prehistoric times survived a meteor strike, and so can we.

As for the distant future, "humans" as we know them will probably exist in small numbers, if at all, because we will probably have all kinds of genetic enhancements that make us more survivable. But there are just soo many people, and humans are just soo adaptive, that I see us existing for a very long time.

Well, the dinosaurs weren't all one species. Was there one species of dinosaurs that lasted all that time? Well, the turles did pretty well...

Maybe the Dinosaurs' advantage was that there weren't smarter than us.
The Dinosaurs never had wars, never polluted and never invented a big red button that could kill them all in 12 seconds. So it makes sense they'lived so long.

Us on the other-hand may be too clever for are own good...

The Human Race: Rembered as the Universe's greatest Smart Arses. :P

Hi, my question for you is simple.

How long do we Humans have left on this Planet, or if you prefer, how long do we have left living life in Civillisations as we do now?

I'd say our Civillisation will have seen it's end by the 22nd Century- Global Warming coupled with no more Oil. Shame we're not moving away from Oil now while we can...

Your thoughts? Should be interesting.

Until our species evolves. Then we will no longer be human. :)

Maybe the Dinosaurs' advantage was that there weren't smarter than us.
The Dinosaurs never had wars, never polluted and never invented a big red button that could kill them all in 12 seconds. So it makes sense they're still alive.

??

Only in Jurassic Park.

I pulled a G W Bush :D

I pulled a G W Bush :D
You invaded Iraq?:p

Hi, my question for you is simple.

How long do we Humans have left on this Planet, or if you prefer, how long do we have left living life in Civillisations as we do now?

I'd say our Civillisation will have seen it's end by the 22nd Century- Global Warming coupled with no more Oil. Shame we're not moving away from Oil now while we can...

Your thoughts? Should be interesting.

According to what I used to think as a kid, we have about a year left. My theory was that I (and the rest of the human race at that point in time) was never going to become older than 20, so we have between 6-18 month. By the way, I used to have a really good explanation for this, but I just don't remeber what it is.

Starvation, nope, Population grows like this: 2, 4, 8, 16 etc.
food production increases like this: 2, 4, 6, 8
so the worst that could happen would be that the earths population would be cut down to a sustainable level.

No. Population has been doubling for only 50-60 years, on a thirty year basis. Meanwhile, around 1900, one acre of crop land would produce only 1 ton of potatos. Nowadays, 1 acre produces in excess of 10 tons. If population grew and shrank to reflect available food, we should have more than 10 billion people on earth.