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Hey everyone, I'm sure everyone has noticed LOADS of anti-bush, anti-america threads and posts on NS Forums, so I thought there should be one where all the Pro-Bush, Pro-USA arguements could be said. Seems Bush lovers can't get a word in elsewhere.

Sorry if this is a rubish idea :P

I have had more than 3 posts btw, I lost my old nation.

A topic is somewhat doomed when the thread-starter doesn't even have any pro-Bush material, don't you think?

Here's what I really like about the US:

"I hate Bush!"

"I hate the US!"

*burns american flag*

Woot! Down the with the US


And that's why I love the US...

...I hope you can get the message in there.

Or, if it doesn't work, another way to say it:

*burns american flag*
*follows with: "Woot, I love the USA!"*

(and obviously, the USA isn't the only place where this applies, but it does apply to the US, and therefore it is good, for as long as it lasts).

Quoting:
A topic is somewhat doomed when the thread-starter doesn't even have any pro-Bush material, don't you think?

Hmmmmm, maybe your right, but then again I'm not much of a Bush Supporter....

No, you don't do pro-America, you do anti-France. It's pretty much the same thing except it keeps everything negative. See?

As for anti-Bush, too bad. Not even America like Bush anymore.

A Third Seem too

A Third Seem too
Nah, they're just shitting the pollsters, like that tenth dentist.

A Third Seem too

Except the current trend is downwards, from the peak during 9/11.

A Third Seem too

And given the polarized state of American politics, that's not very impressive at all. In fact, I believe that qualifies as "dire". Nixon had higher approval rates on the day he strpped down. Just think about that for a minute. Nixon was more popular.

In that case how about just standing up for stuff America is doing with its foreign policy regardless of Bush?

I am proud to be an American, for all of the positive, amazing, and wonderful things that our country has done for and given to the world in our relatively short history. BUT I do not fail to see that our country has also commited serious crimes across the globe, our government has made horrible mistakes in foreign policy, and that we have not always lived up to our fundamental ideals of Democracy, equality and freedom.

President Bush does not represent ALL Americans. He is an elected official, nothing more than a glorified civil servant. If foreigners want to blame America for the ills of the world, they have every right. But don't just blame our government, blame the PEOPLE who vote for the criminal scumbags who are running our country into the ground. :sniper:

President Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents of our nation.

I hate bush.

In that case how about just standing up for stuff America is doing with its foreign policy regardless of Bush?

It is Bushs foreign policy. His policy is the reason he's hated. You don't get approval ratings like that merely because people don't like your name.

I am proud to be an American, for all of the positive, amazing, and wonderful things that our country has done for and given to the world in our relatively short history. BUT I do not fail to see that our country has also commited serious crimes across the globe, our government has made horrible mistakes in foreign policy, and that we have not always lived up to our fundamental ideals of Democracy, equality and freedom.

President Bush does not represent ALL Americans. He is an elected official, nothing more than a glorified civil servant. If foreigners want to blame America for the ills of the world, they have every right. But don't just blame our government, blame the PEOPLE who vote for the criminal scumbags who are running our country into the ground. :sniper:

President Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents of our nation.


Thats not a bad point to make actually, I'm from Ireland myself and the majority of my friends would view Bush AS America.

Thats not a bad point to make actually, I'm from Ireland myself and the majority of my friends would view Bush AS America.

You must move in some strange circles then. I've met anarchists and activist that don't think that.

I hate bush.
OMG, t3h gh3y?!

*ahem*
Couldn't resist, sorry.

Couldn't resist, sorry.
*firmly spanks H N Fiddlebottoms VIII's rump*
Couldn't resist, sorry.

*firmly spanks H N Fiddlebottoms VIII's rump*
Couldn't resist, sorry.
*deserved it, but takes offense anyway*
*burns down Mariehamn's village*
There seems to be a dire shortage of Superego in the local food supplies, because I haven't seen such little ability to resist since me and ole Reichenau took a drive through Poland.

*burns down Mariehamn's village*
There seems to be a dire shortage of Superego in the local food supplies, because I haven't seen such little ability to resist since me and ole Reichenau took a drive through Poland.
*such retribution was not expected*
*rapes H N Fiddlebottoms' women folk and sells children into slavery*
You're transgression have not been granted impunity!

Our tap water has lots of Id in it, not to mention we like pork - the unclean meat you know. I would firmly spank everyone with equal lust, but then my people wouldn't have all that many villages left, and then where would all the stupid tourists go?

Stand up for America, you say?

Hmmm. Tricky.

*ahem*

America is... erm, America... (this is tough) America has uhh... it has good roads.

That's all I've got.

*such retribution was not expected*
*rapes H N Fiddlebottoms' women folk and sells children into slavery*
You're transgression have not been granted impunity!
Thank God for that: maybe now that they have someone else to do the horizontal hula with those stupid women will quit nagging me all the time (I hope your phone number isn't in any public record anywhere, becuase they will find you, they will call the next day, and they will want to "talk"), and those children were the absolute worst.
Our tap water has lots of Id in it, not to mention we like pork - the unclean meat you know. I would firmly spank everyone with equal lust, but then my people wouldn't have all that many villages left, and then where would all the stupid tourists go?
You should embrace having your villages burned down, its just the sort of thing that can give an ailing construction agency the shot in the arm it needs (not to mention all the new jobs it creates), and repair a struggling local economy.
Or at least that's what I was told by the local capitalist.

You should embrace having your villages burned down, its just the sort of thing that can give an ailing construction agency the shot in the arm it needs (not to mention all the new jobs it creates), and repair a struggling local economy.
Or at least that's what I was told by the local capitalist.
Or you could take advantage of the amazingly fantastic road systems and establish a new community elsewhere.

America is... erm, America... (this is tough) America has uhh... it has good roads.
So says a man who has evidently never tried to drive through New Jersey, or Cincinnati, or in West Virginia.
Anyway, culturally, America has Jazz, and for that we deserve a cookie from the rest of the world.

So says a man who has evidently never tried to drive through New Jersey, or Cincinnati, or in West Virginia.
Anyway, culturally, America has Jazz, and for that we deserve a cookie from the rest of the world.

Would you like belgian fries with that?

Stand up for America, you say?

Hmmm. Tricky.

*ahem*

America is... erm, America... (this is tough) America has uhh... it has good roads.

That's all I've got.


Thats Ok. Dont get cocky thinking your endorsement would have held any value anyway.

Anyway, culturally, America has Jazz, and for that we deserve a cookie from the rest of the world.
Stop noodling atonally on those damn saxophones, America - and play us a melody for once. Jazz is too often an excuse for self-indulgence in the limelight.

Thats Ok. Dont get cocky thinking your endorsement would have held any value anyway.
What's caught up your shaft this morning, anyway?

President Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents of our nation.

Amen to that.

Y'know... for a pro-Bush, pro-America thread... it's been awfully negative so far...

Thank God for that: maybe now that they have someone else to do the horizontal hula with those stupid women will quit nagging me all the time (I hope your phone number isn't in any public record anywhere, becuase they will find you, they will call the next day, and they will want to "talk"), and those children were the absolute worst.
Its a good thing you burned down the village where the telephone company had built their head quarters, but we're coping. My village nation has taken up using naked runners between villages to deliever telegrams. Its all rather exciting, we've even erected giant penis kilometer markers. We expect that exhibitionists, nudists and curious turists from America will visit soon. Not to mention the child slavery, its lowered last quarters labor expenses by a whopping 36%! You've raised very industrial children, Fiddlebottoms.
You should embrace having your villages burned down, its just the sort of thing that can give an ailing construction agency the shot in the arm it needs (not to mention all the new jobs it creates), and repair a struggling local economy.
Or at least that's what I was told by the local capitalist.
We've taken note that the stagnating economy has taken a turn for the better. People now have good paying jobs ( with the exception of the slave children, but we're thinking about granting them freedom after joing the plundering service ) and people don't have to resort to raping and pillaging any longer. All in all, you're burning down our villages has created some sort of new society with slaves, the working class and farmers, and rival war-lords all under my control. They get a little roudy at times, but - as I said - things are looking up with the economy and all.

What's caught up your shaft this morning, anyway?


Nothing at all-I dont agree with most of the folks on here at all. Usually, I dont say anything.

Today,I do.

Because I have different views and experience on things doesnt mean that somethings wrong with me. Sometimes, I just dont like to let things go.

Stop noodling atonally on those damn saxophones, America - and play us a melody for once. Jazz is too often an excuse for self-indulgence in the limelight.
You're just jealous because, as a Canadian, the closest you ever get to the limelight is when you make that lame pun about putting a flashlight inside a lime.
Yeah, we've all seen the gag before, get some fucking new material Canada.

You must move in some strange circles then. I've met anarchists and activist that don't think that.

Maybe no circles for him. :)

I've seen both worlds - my friends mostly seen bush as america, and i've met anarchists and general activists who don't think so. Because they mostly care more and think more. General opinion often goes without thinking.

Me, personally, I'm from Europe but i'm quite pro-america and partly pro-bush.

Nothing at all-I dont agree with most of the folks on here at all. Usually, I dont say anything.

Today,I do.

Because I have different views and experience on things doesnt mean that somethings wrong with me. Sometimes, I just dont like to let things go.
I think I could use some more coffee.

You're just jealous because, as a Canadian, the closest you ever get to the limelight is when you make that lame pun about putting a flashlight inside a lime.
Yeah, we've all seen the gag before, get some fucking new material Canada.
We'll make sure to pass that one on when 'Canadian National Stand-up Comedy Routine Day' rolls 'round again. Oh, the yucks we have up here once the dire business of the Stanley Cup is over and done with.

Its a good thing you burned down the village where the telephone company had built their head quarters, but we're coping. My village nation has taken up using naked runners between villages to deliever telegrams. Its all rather exciting, we've even erected giant penis kilometer markers.
Just like the proto-Jews I knew you were.
Not to mention the child slavery, its lowered last quarters labor expenses by a whopping 36%! You've raised very industrial children, Fiddlebottoms.
You think that now, but just wait until the sugar high wears off and they decide that it is time for nap time.
We've taken note that the stagnating economy has taken a turn for the better. People now have good paying jobs ( with the exception of the slave children, but we're thinking about granting them freedom after joing the plundering service ) and people don't have to resort to raping and pillaging any longer. All in all, you're burning down our villages has created some sort of new society with slaves, the working class and farmers, and rival war-lords all under my control. They get a little roudy at times, but - as I said - things are looking up with the economy and all.
And now everyone is happy! Or at least, they will be when my accountant is finished processing the bill for my "Expert Economic and Labor Management Consultation", you should be getting the notice in a few days.
Remember, I expect my payment in egg rolls and pork lo mein, and I expect it delivered in thirty to fourty-five minutes or I get a free soda with my meal.

I think I could use some more coffee.


I just found out that you should use two tablespoons of coffee for every six ounces of water you use. I tried it this morning and it worked. Its strong, but not bitter.
I was getting really bitter coffee using half that amount.

Alton Brown is a genius.

I just found out that you should use two tablespoons of coffee for every six ounces of water you use. I tried it this morning and it worked. Its strong, but not bitter.
I was getting really bitter coffee using half that amount.

Alton Brown is a genius.
Lemme go check... I use - 1 tablespoon of semi-fine ground coffee beans for every 1 cup of water. I have an auto-drip, but it's given me good service.

Lemme go check... I use - 1 tablespoon of semi-fine ground coffee beans for every 1 cup of water. I have an auto-drip, but it's given me good service.


Thats what I have too.

Alton Brown explained why the more ground coffee, the less acidic. With more coffee, the water was rinsing less acid out of it.
It was hard to get the exact description with my 2yr old daughter hitting me in the face with a Harry Potter dvd she wanted to see. I'm losing my ability to perform with numerous distractions these days, it seems.

Remember, I expect my payment in egg rolls and pork lo mein, and I expect it delivered in thirty to fourty-five minutes or I get a free soda with my meal.
You £¤&@$=+!

So says a man who has evidently never tried to drive through New Jersey, or Cincinnati, or in West Virginia.
Anyway, culturally, America has Jazz, and for that we deserve a cookie from the rest of the world.

Rock 'n Roll should get us props from the rest of the world as well even if so much of it has turned to crap these days. Making the parents of the time it was made thinking their children were listening to the devil's music. Excellent. :)

You £¤&@$=+!
No, no, no, its spelled "£¤@&$=+." Remember, & before @, except after ¤. And I'm not seeing any egg rolls, so you'd better just run back and grab that free soda before you come.

No, no, no, its spelled "£¤@&$=+." Remember, & before @, except after ¤.
Grammar Nazi.

And I'm not seeing any egg rolls, so you'd better just run back and grab that free soda before you come.
You're not seeing any egg rolls because I ate them!
*licks fingers*

Grammar Nazi.
Indeed, oh the fun me and ole Reichenau had, rolling through the Polish countryside, making marks all over the place with our little red pens and sending school children home from their Creative Writing classes in tears.

Indeed, oh the fun me and ole Reichenau had, rolling through the Polish countryside, making marks all over the place with our little red pens and sending school children home from their Creative Writing classes in tears.
I must ask: Creative writing or factually based saga?

Hey everyone, I'm sure everyone has noticed LOADS of anti-bush, anti-america threads and posts on NS Forums, so I thought there should be one where all the Pro-Bush, Pro-USA arguements could be said. Seems Bush lovers can't get a word in elsewhere.

In the eternal words of Bill Maher, "I don't hate America, I'm EMBARRASED by America".

"I don't hate America, I'm EMBARRASED by America".
Too true. Too damnably true.

Hey everyone, I'm sure everyone has noticed LOADS of anti-bush, anti-america threads and posts on NS Forums,
I haven't.

Too true. Too damnably true.
You're a Canadian, what the fuck do you care? You're being embarrased by America is like me getting embarrased when there is a rumor about someone else's mom fucking donkeys.
I know I didn't care, I just giggled and passed the story along to everyone else at the lunch table. The kid, on the other hand, had to leave school early and was "sick" for a few days after everyone started taunting him about it.
Ah, Middle School, your years of casual cruelty will be missed.

I haven't.
For some, "any" apparently qualifies as "loads".

omg joor teh PATRIOT!!!11:sniper:

You're a Canadian, what the fuck do you care?
It's like having to ignore your next-door neighbour as he slides into an untreated bipolar disorder. It is embarrassing, you feel embarrassed for America, mixed with pity and concern for both America and your relationship with America, you alternately feel sympathy and disdain for their untreated disorder, and wonder how much worse they'll become before they get better - and just how they'll go about making themselves better might be cause for worry as well.

That's sorta how or what the fuck I care, VIII.

4.7 Percent Unemployment rate and going lower.

Millions of new jobs created, not lost like Kerry lied about.

No more dictator Saddam Hussein for life in Iraq.

Democratic multy party, multy ethnic elections in Iraq, an Arab Nation.

Dosent care what world leaders think of him.

LOL, not bad, for a start.

Stand up for America, you say?

Hmmm. Tricky.

*ahem*

America is... erm, America... (this is tough) America has uhh... it has good roads.

That's all I've got.

Someones never been to Michigan before!

I love America, don't get me wrong. I just hate the way it is right now.

4.7 Percent Unemployment rate and going lower.
23% unemployment rate. Read this article http://www.exilemm.com/e-sub-realunemployment.shtml
makes an interesting point.

Millions of new jobs created, not lost like Kerry lied about.
Your source?

No more dictator Saddam Hussein for life in Iraq.
Ok, they dont have a dictator, but theres an escalating conflict between the Shia and Suuni. It's going to become civil war sooner or later

Democratic multy party, multy ethnic elections in Iraq, an Arab Nation.
If by multi-party you mean multi American approved party, then yes

Dosent care what world leaders think of him.
This makes America a good country how?

LOL, not bad, for a start.

4.7 Percent Unemployment rate and going lower.

Millions of new jobs created, not lost like Kerry lied about.

No more dictator Saddam Hussein for life in Iraq.

Democratic multy party, multy ethnic elections in Iraq, an Arab Nation.

Dosent care what world leaders think of him.

LOL, not bad, for a start.

10 Trillion Dollar Deficit.

Useless war based on false data.

Constant in-fighting and terrorism in Iraq.

Blissfully ignorant of the politics of the world around him.

...Yeah...I don't have a high opinion of this guy.

10 Trillion Dollar Deficit.

Useless war based on false data.

Constant in-fighting and terrorism in Iraq.

Blissfully ignorant of the politics of the world around him.

...Yeah...I don't have a high opinion of this guy.

Still, you should keep that to the relevant thread.

Someones never been to Michigan before!
Not to mention, its the floor of the United State's unemployment statistics.

In the eternal words of Bill Maher, "I don't hate America, I'm EMBARRASED by America".
Bill Maher is GOD.

On an another note, we've got a good thing going here in the US of A.

Pro-USA arguements are pretty common. Pro-Bush arguement are getting increasingly rare since more and more American are very discontent about their president. Here's an example:

I am proud to be an American, for all of the positive, amazing, and wonderful things that our country has done for and given to the world in our relatively short history. BUT I do not fail to see that our country has also commited serious crimes across the globe, our government has made horrible mistakes in foreign policy, and that we have not always lived up to our fundamental ideals of Democracy, equality and freedom.

President Bush does not represent ALL Americans. He is an elected official, nothing more than a glorified civil servant. If foreigners want to blame America for the ills of the world, they have every right. But don't just blame our government, blame the PEOPLE who vote for the criminal scumbags who are running our country into the ground. :sniper:

President Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents of our nation.

Pro-Bush and pro-US arguments, eh?

Mmh... let's see... Bush, he's good for comedy. Maan, I love it when the presidential speeches segments on Letterman!

The US... Well, people there buy lots of useless crap and keep the world's economy going. I guess that's a good thing.

It's like having to ignore your next-door neighbour as he slides into an untreated bipolar disorder.
Where's your sense of schadenfreude, man? I know that if Canada were going collectively insane I'd be lolzing it up rather than feeling embarrassed.

Hey everyone, I'm sure everyone has noticed LOADS of anti-bush, anti-america threads and posts on NS Forums, so I thought there should be one where all the Pro-Bush, Pro-USA arguements could be said. Seems Bush lovers can't get a word in elsewhere.


Is there any space for Anti-Bush, Pro-American rants?

Is there any space for Anti-Bush, Pro-American rants?
Unpossible, everyone knows that the only way to be pro-American is to suck Bush's cock while draped in the American flag and coating your fingers in purple ink.

Unpossible, everyone knows that the only way to be pro-American is to suck Bush's cock while draped in the American flag and coating your fingers in purple ink.

:D
And...
Uhm... Why the purple ink? o_O

:D
And...
Uhm... Why the purple ink? o_O
Solidarity with the Iraqis, duh. We must always make our token gestures and clichés, for without them we would be forced to develop real sentiment and the means by which to express it, and that would be hard work.

Solidarity with the Iraqis, duh. We must always make our token gestures and clichés, for without them we would be forced to develop real sentiment and the means by which to express it, and that would be hard work.

Cynic! :D

This is an interesting topic, because it seems that the view of what America is has changed. See, what I love to do is read Ann Coulter books where she says that liberals must hate America because they criticize it. They must hate America because they hate Bush and the right. Ergo, Ann Coulter is convinced that Bush is America, because I'm sure that the shoe would not be on the other foot if the president were a liberal Democrat: she would be bitching about him like it's nobody's business.
I am a Canadian. I am damn proud of it too. And what I love about this land is that the people don't have that same attitude: I criticized Paul Martin when he was prime minister, and I criticize Stephen Harper now. The fact is, I love this land, I love our history, I love what we do, I just don't love the government: the government and the country itself are simply not one in the same. I base this argument on the idea that governments are ever-changing and that one cannot love a government unconditionally, when one administration may be a tyrannical conservative while another may be a hard-line socialist. Loving the land and the people in your land is different from loving your government. That's why I get a kick out of Ann Coulter...and Al Franken's colourful responses to her arguments.
Al Franken has this to say on the topic (roughly quoted): "liberals and conservatives both love America, but in very different ways. Conservatives love America like a four year old loves mommy: everything mommy does is wonderful and anybody who says anything bad about mommy is bad. Liberals love America in a more adult way: we take the good with the bad and try to help our loved ones grow." Brilliance. Sheer brilliance.
I think Franken hit the nail on the head with that one.

This is an interesting topic, because it seems that the view of what America is has changed. See, what I love to do is read Ann Coulter books where she says that liberals must hate America because they criticize it. They must hate America because they hate Bush and the right. Ergo, Ann Coulter is convinced that Bush is America, because I'm sure that the shoe would not be on the other foot if the president were a liberal Democrat: she would be bitching about him like it's nobody's business.
I am a Canadian. I am damn proud of it too. And what I love about this land is that the people don't have that same attitude: I criticized Paul Martin when he was prime minister, and I criticize Stephen Harper now. The fact is, I love this land, I love our history, I love what we do, I just don't love the government: the government and the country itself are simply not one in the same. I base this argument on the idea that governments are ever-changing and that one cannot love a government unconditionally, when one administration may be a tyrannical conservative while another may be a hard-line socialist. Loving the land and the people in your land is different from loving your government.


Yes, strangely we don't have to do what the Prime Minister says or support him just because he is the Prime Minister. We are the ones that elected him after all, and we can just as easily give him the boot.

This is an interesting topic, because it seems that the view of what America is has changed. See, what I love to do is read Ann Coulter books where she says that liberals must hate America because they criticize it. They must hate America because they hate Bush and the right. Ergo, Ann Coulter is convinced that Bush is America, because I'm sure that the shoe would not be on the other foot if the president were a liberal Democrat: she would be bitching about him like it's nobody's business.
I am a Canadian. I am damn proud of it too. And what I love about this land is that the people don't have that same attitude: I criticized Paul Martin when he was prime minister, and I criticize Stephen Harper now. The fact is, I love this land, I love our history, I love what we do, I just don't love the government: the government and the country itself are simply not one in the same. I base this argument on the idea that governments are ever-changing and that one cannot love a government unconditionally, when one administration may be a tyrannical conservative while another may be a hard-line socialist. Loving the land and the people in your land is different from loving your government. That's why I get a kick out of Ann Coulter...and Al Franken's colourful responses to her arguments.
Al Franken has this to say on the topic (roughly quoted): "liberals and conservatives both love America, but in very different ways. Conservatives love America like a four year old loves mommy: everything mommy does is wonderful and anybody who says anything bad about mommy is bad. Liberals love America in a more adult way: we take the good with the bad and try to help our loved ones grow." Brilliance. Sheer brilliance.
I think Franken hit the nail on the head with that one.

Probably one of the most intelligent posts I've read here so far. You hit the nail right on the head. Ann Coulter is nothing more than a hate monger with an underdeveloped frontal lobe.

This thread is an awesome leisure read.
And also, I would like to state my pro-Canadian sentiment. Not pro-Harper. (stupid Harper)

I find it funny there hasn't been any pro-Bush, and very little pro-American talk. In fact, this thread has gone 5 pages and has remained pretty much off-topic. Hah.
I'd bet tho, that if anybody came on here pro-Bush, they'd get beaten with Soap-on-a-Rope and left for dead under a burning American flag.

I like the United States. Or rather, I like the idealized view that we always like to pretend is the United States.

I appreciate the idea of freedom from oppressive regimes. I get inexplicably moist at the idea of a land where every culture known to man is free to interact, hang out, bitch at one another and adopt one another's customs.

But I can't help but be sorely saddened by a country that claims to espouse these values, perhaps even believing that it does so, while wide swaths of Midwestern Suburbia are the colour of a Nazi Eugenicist's wet dream and while what is at best an ignorant, misguided fool and at worst a complete lunatic grabs more and more power from us for himself every day.

And what's worse, I can't even fucking vote yet. I can't help make this land what it should be again. Adults don't take my words or opinions seriously, and I've still got one more year before I technically have opinions of my own.

Thats not a bad point to make actually, I'm from Ireland myself and the majority of my friends would view Bush AS America.

That's what bothers me. I'm American and Bush is FAR from representing me. I didn't vote for him.
Plus he won with less votes then the other guys. TOTALLY not fair. The Electorial college should be put away with.

That's what bothers me. I'm American and Bush is FAR from representing me. I didn't vote for him.
Plus he won with less votes then the other guys. TOTALLY not fair. The Electorial college should be put away with.
Only Gore. Kerry lost both ways.
Remember: The Electoral College protects the people from themselves!

That's what bothers me. I'm American and Bush is FAR from representing me. I didn't vote for him.
Plus he won with less votes then the other guys. TOTALLY not fair. The Electorial college should be put away with.

w0rd. Not only am I too young to vote, I live in Kansas. When it comes to anything major, my vote doesn't matter.

The one thing that annoys me about the US is its voting system... I'm I right in thinking that each state gets one vote decided by a vote internally?

Btw, im very pleased with hwo my first thread has turned out. *smug*

The one thing that annoys me about the US is its voting system... I'm I right in thinking that each state gets one vote decided by a vote internally?

Btw, im very pleased with hwo my first thread has turned out. *smug*

The electoral gets a number of votes based off of the population of the state.

I'm proud to be an American, I just don't agree with the goverment at the moment, but we've agreed to disagree.

The electoral gets a number of votes based off of the population of the state.

Ahhhhhhhhhh right.

Unless the majority of that population are black.
In which case its either ignored or changed.


This is not very pro-bush....

Hey, 50% ain't bad.

...It's higher then support for the president.

Oh snap.

Does a nation that can turn the rest of the world into plate glass really need some random person to "stand up for it" on an online forum?

I think not.

Ahhhhhhhhhh right.

Unless the majority of that population are black.
In which case its either ignored or changed.


This is not very pro-bush....

Or if they just happen to be liberals. Or in Ohio.

Does a nation that can turn the rest of the world into plate glass really need some random person to "stand up for it" on an online forum?

I think not.

America *really* couldn't you know.

France and Russia would get pissed and fire back.

Reminds me of a wee story: JFK announced to the World "America has the Nuclear Capalities to destroy the Soviet Union three times over. We have out-paced our enemies."

Then, the Soviet Leader (who I'm not going to try and spell) wrote in his journal: "We have the power to destroy the USA once! I don't see the need to do it more than that. We are not blood-thirsty people."

Makes you think about the Cold War slightly differently, doesn't it?

Then, the Soviet Leader (who I'm not going to try and spell)
Khrushchev?

Yeah, Krushchev.

Thats not a bad point to make actually, I'm from Ireland myself and the majority of my friends would view Bush AS America.

Thats ridiculous. When I think of a country, I do not aoutomatically think of their leaders as the embodiment of the nation. Like I said, our president is an ELECTED official, and nothing more. He does not speak for all Americans. Unfortunately his actions reflect very badly on the rest of us, and thats because Americans are TOO STUPID to vote for the right candidates.

Fuck you RED STATES:upyours: