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Donor Cards.

Ratod
21-04-2006, 13:07
Anyone else getting gutted like a fish after they kick the bucket.If so/not, why? moral grounds ,religion, fear?
Egg and chips
21-04-2006, 13:09
I'm on the donor register, but I'm still too lazy to go and get a card, so they'll have to look me up when I die.

But yeah, if anyone can use my organs after death, they're welcome to it.
Ratod
21-04-2006, 13:11
I'm on the donor register, but I'm still too lazy to go and get a card, so they'll have to look me up when I die.

But yeah, if anyone can use my organs after death, they're welcome to it.
My out look on it was, I'm not going to need them anyhow so why not.
I V Stalin
21-04-2006, 13:14
I sent off the form, but never heard anything back. I don't know if I'm on the register or not. But yes, I intend to donate every useful part of me when I die.

Someone was saying in the Animal Right thread that we should introduce an 'opt-out' card, rather than having an 'opt-in' card. People should have to register if they don't want their organs removed. So long as everyone is given the opportunity to opt-out, I think this is a good idea in theory, although there are practical applications that could cause problems - for example, when would a child get to decide what s/he wants done with his/her body.
I V Stalin
21-04-2006, 13:15
But yeah, if anyone can use my organs after death, they're welcome to it.
Yeah, after you die, I'm going to take your organs and go round the country as a juggling act as part of a circus.
Blood has been shed
21-04-2006, 13:17
After I die I don't really have much claim on my body do I... Just as I wouldn't keep all my money/possetions I'm not gonna keep my organs + who knows I might be saving someones life.
Ratod
21-04-2006, 13:18
Yeah, after you die, I'm going to take your organs and go round the country as a juggling act as part of a circus.
well if someone else cant use them for a transplant your more than welcome;)
Egg and chips
21-04-2006, 13:27
Yeah, after you die, I'm going to take your organs and go round the country as a juggling act as part of a circus.
Feel free. Just make sure you list me as one of the performers :P
Retired Majors
21-04-2006, 13:28
They're going to cut me up and use me to repair others.

And like in the B-movies I'll take control of their bodies while they sleep.

I hope it works, I've only got one shot at it.
Fass
21-04-2006, 13:30
http://www.livsviktigt.se/

Residents of Sweden can let their wishes be known there. You can pick if you want to be a donor or not, and also select which organs you wish to donate and which not. You can also choose to donate your body solely to other people, or science, or both. Very convenient.
I V Stalin
21-04-2006, 13:42
http://www.livsviktigt.se/

Residents of Sweden can let their wishes be known there. You can pick if you want to be a donor or not, and also select which organs you wish to donate and which not. You can also choose to donate your body solely to other people, or science, or both. Very convenient.
In the UK we've got this (http://www.uktransplant.org.uk/ukt/how_to_become_a_donor/how_to_become_a_donor.jsp).

With Gary Lineker as the face of it. Maybe it's part of his penance for advertising crisps...
New Zealandium
21-04-2006, 13:52
this fits in (surprisingly) well with my idea of suicide, yes, odd as it sounds.


After your decision (death) you should have to go through a thorough psychological screening, after which, in exchange for your definate and painless death, the government put you in a coma, take all your organs, blood, maroow, EVERYTHING, even hair for wigs, and kill you.

Heart, 6 Litres of blood, Bone Marrow, Kidneys, Liver, Stomach even, Brain to science, every organ, skin for grafts, the absolute lot.

Great for everyone :>
New Zealandium
21-04-2006, 13:53
Btw, im a donor when i die. registered and everything :>
Ratod
21-04-2006, 14:01
The only organ which not be not be in such good nick might be the auld liver.;)
New Zealandium
21-04-2006, 14:04
The only organ which not be not be in such good nick might be the auld liver.;)



the only organ which not be not be.......

how bout them lungs :P
Ratod
21-04-2006, 14:07
the only organ which not be not be.......

how bout them lungs :P
There ok ish.Only smoke a joint before bed these days..no ciggies
New Zealandium
21-04-2006, 14:08
There ok ish.Only smoke a joint before bed these days..no ciggies



thats cool. low chance of cancer then, still not overall good for ya lungs, but hey. i am not in a position to comment ;)




Never smoked tobacco, and proud :>
Ilie
21-04-2006, 14:09
I'm donating my entire body to science. I hope my mom is dead by then cause they'll be doing that over her dead body.
New Zealandium
21-04-2006, 14:10
what countries will not NOT NOT EVER accept organs from druggies, in a weak attempt to get this thread even remotely back on subject


druggies being alcohol, tobacco, illegal drugs.

not including caffeine
Fass
21-04-2006, 14:10
I'm donating my entire body to science. I hope my mom is dead by then cause they'll be doing that over her dead body.

Have it be a nice surprise.
Khadgar
21-04-2006, 14:12
Full organ donor. I'll be dead, figure there ain't too much use for 'em after that. Though seeing as they don't let gay people donate blood I'm not sure how they feel about gay organs.:rolleyes:
New Zealandium
21-04-2006, 14:14
Full organ donor. I'll be dead, figure there ain't too much use for 'em after that. Though seeing as they don't let gay people donate blood I'm not sure how they feel about gay organs.:rolleyes:



GAY PEOPLE CANT DONATE?!?!?!

jeesus where you live is bad

here, they test all blood for sti's, drugs, and genetic issues (i.e. theres something wrong with the structure of the blood)

they dont care what human it comes from
Ratod
21-04-2006, 14:15
what countries will not NOT NOT EVER accept organs from druggies, in a weak attempt to get this thread even remotely back on subject


druggies being alcohol, tobacco, illegal drugs.

not including caffeine
Most people who need organs are so desperate for them they probably wouldn't mind getting a spare part form a herion addict..
Ilie
21-04-2006, 14:17
GAY PEOPLE CANT DONATE?!?!?!

jeesus where you live is bad

here, they test all blood for sti's, drugs, and genetic issues (i.e. theres something wrong with the structure of the blood)

they dont care what human it comes from

Yeah, my university had a blood drive a couple years ago (I'm sure they have since but this is the one I was at) and they wouldn't let me donate cause I'd lived in the UK and they are scared of mad cow. No biggie, I still got cookies. So I'm eating cookies, and this guy starts yelling at everybody, making a protest and whatnot. He knew they wouldn't let him donate cause he's gay, he wanted to do kind of a sit-in protest thing. I can understand that. It's really too bad, and it fuels the whole homophobia crap here. I should think the red cross would know that it's not just gays susceptible to STDs and whatnot, it's everybody. Cripes!
Ilie
21-04-2006, 14:19
Have it be a nice surprise.

Heh! Yeah. "By the way ma'am, your daughter donated her body to science. We'll be using her to see what the effects of pouring acid on a human corpse are, and then our med students will dissect her and put her body up all over the place encased in plastic like those people in the Philadelphia exhibit."

She'd faint.
Ratod
21-04-2006, 14:19
Full organ donor. I'll be dead, figure there ain't too much use for 'em after that. Though seeing as they don't let gay people donate blood I'm not sure how they feel about gay organs.:rolleyes:
If I needed a transplant to survive I really wouldn't care who the hell it came from.I mean I thought that the donor names were kept confidential any how...
New Zealandium
21-04-2006, 14:20
just imagining.

ok, mr critically injured, we are giving you a junkies blood pack. this guy was on heroin, so we shouldn't have to give you any morpheine, have fun :>

Critically injured dude: oww....mmmmmm....yeah....heh
Ratod
21-04-2006, 14:25
just imagining.

ok, mr critically injured, we are giving you a junkies blood pack. this guy was on heroin, so we shouldn't have to give you any morpheine, have fun :>

Critically injured dude: oww....mmmmmm....yeah....heh
If I was in the latter stages of kidney failure I wouldnt matter who I was getting the bloody things from if it gave me a few extra months.Besides the whole herion remark was just used to illustrate how desderate sick people can be..
Fass
21-04-2006, 14:26
Full organ donor. I'll be dead, figure there ain't too much use for 'em after that. Though seeing as they don't let gay people donate blood I'm not sure how they feel about gay organs.:rolleyes:

It is silly to ban men who have sex with men (i.e. lesbians are usually not affected, but bisexual males are) from donating organs, as the testing and time prior to transplantation is quite long and the risk are not that high of disease transmission if properly done.

However, when it comes to blood I do see a partial ban as justified, because the tests are not 100% accurate and can miss a recent infection, and whatever we may think of the facts, they are that men who have sex with men are much more likely than men who only have sex with women to contract HIV/Hepatitis/Syphilis/whatever, in the West.

I say partial ban, because there should be a period that you are banned from donating blood every time you switch partners, six months or something like that. A complete ban is going too far, IMHO.
Tim Church
21-04-2006, 14:27
Probably will donate, to people not research ( though they might want to discover how I survived on a single neuron :p ). But my family would be consulted and who knows how they might feel at the time.
New Zealandium
21-04-2006, 14:32
It is silly to ban men who have sex with men (i.e. lesbians are usually not affected, but bisexual males are) from donating organs, as the testing and time prior to transplantation is quite long and the risk are not that high of disease transmission if properly done.

/Snip/.




I hate to agree but. Anal sex is more effective at spreading STI's
*cries*
BUT NOT BECAUSE OF CARELESSNESS
OR BECAUSE GOD DOESN'T LIKE GAYS

it just naturally is *cries* it shouldn't be so.


if you really want, i can provide articles to back me up


bad section of it to leave as it mentions nothing about my point.
BTW I LOVE GAY/BI GUYS :>
Carnivorous Lickers
21-04-2006, 14:35
It is silly to ban men who have sex with men (i.e. lesbians are usually not affected, but bisexual males are) from donating organs, as the testing and time prior to transplantation is quite long and the risk are not that high of disease transmission if properly done.

However, when it comes to blood I do see a partial ban as justified, because the tests are not 100% accurate and can miss a recent infection, and whatever we may think of the facts, they are that men who have sex with men are much more likely than men who only have sex with women to contract HIV/Hepatitis/Syphilis/whatever, in the West.

I say partial ban, because there should be a period that you are banned from donating blood every time you switch partners, six months or something like that. A complete ban is going too far, IMHO.


Maybe I missed it, but wouldnt it make sense to do a blood/urine test on ANY deceased donor PRIOR to using any harvested organs?
Regardless of gender and sexual orientation, anyone in any category could have HIV,hepatitis/Syphilis herpes, etc...
Shouldnt they test every donor before using the organs?
Carnivorous Lickers
21-04-2006, 14:41
I have IDd myself as an organ donor by noting it on the back of my New Jersey driver's license and making my wishes perfectly clear to my wife and parents.
I have also encouraged others-a few family members and a bunch of friends to complete their respective licenses or forms after learning that they intended to be donors as well. I dont push people to decide to donate, just remind them to do what they have to do, if they already want to.
Intending to donate is useless if you havent made your wishes perfectly clear to the people who will have to make decisions if you're dead.

I'm in really good health as a 38 yr old and I have excellent vision. I dont want to die any time soon, but I know its the right thing for me, knowing if I die, my corneas might give someone sight or my liver,kidneys healthy heart and lungs might help someone else-or their child.
I V Stalin
21-04-2006, 14:41
Probably will donate, to people not research ( though they might want to discover how I survived on a single neuron :p ). But my family would be consulted and who knows how they might feel at the time.
I'd consult my family before I died. It would go one of either two ways:
Me: "I'm donating every part of my body possible to medical science"
Family: "What? No! How could you be so uncaring about what we might think?"
Me: "My body, my decision. Fuck off."

Or:
Me: "I'm donating every part of my body possible to medical science"
Family: "Ok."

Hopefully the latter.
Fass
21-04-2006, 15:00
Maybe I missed it, but wouldnt it make sense to do a blood/urine test on ANY deceased donor PRIOR to using any harvested organs?
Regardless of gender and sexual orientation, anyone in any category could have HIV,hepatitis/Syphilis herpes, etc...
Shouldnt they test every donor before using the organs?

That is of course done, but we come to a discussion about sensitivity and specificity of tests, and the population they measure. It is unlikely that a good test would miss someone who has an infection, but the risk is there. The risk, in these sorts of tests, is increased if the population it measures has more people who are infected. The probability of someone infected slipping through a crack becomes greater by how many infected we pass by the crack, if you get my poor metaphore.

Thus, excluding a population that has a higher risk of being infected can be sound. It's not only done to gay people, it's done to foreigners from certain areas as well, not to mention intravenous drug users.
Turquoise Days
21-04-2006, 15:01
I'd consult my family before I died. It would go one of either two ways:
Me: "I'm donating every part of my body possible to medical science"
Family: "What? No! How could you be so uncaring about what we might think?"
Me: "My body, my decision. Fuck off."

Or:
Me: "I'm donating every part of my body possible to medical science"
Family: "Ok."

Hopefully the latter.
Mine was the latter. I finally got off my ass and registered. Thanks for the link.

In an interesting anecdote, in high school, our art teachers mother donated her body to science. After the med students had finished playing with it, all the bits came back, and her skull ended up in the art department, on her daughter's desk. I used it for a study. Cool, in a weird way.
Khadgar
21-04-2006, 15:07
Heh, organ donor card is your driver's license here, remember when I got mine and opted to donate. Mother asked why I'd let someone chop me up and take my organs after I died. "Well I ain't gonna be needing them!".
Fass
21-04-2006, 15:10
Heh! Yeah. "By the way ma'am, your daughter donated her body to science. We'll be using her to see what the effects of pouring acid on a human corpse are, and then our med students will dissect her and put her body up all over the place encased in plastic like those people in the Philadelphia exhibit."

She'd faint.

It's the only way we can learn.
Zolworld
21-04-2006, 15:21
Im on the register but they never sent me a card. what I dont get is why people often want to donate some of their organs but not all. what makes some organs special to people?
Ratod
21-04-2006, 15:53
Im on the register but they never sent me a card. what I dont get is why people often want to donate some of their organs but not all. what makes some organs special to people?
Meh people are strange.For alot of people its their eyes.Me I singed up for the works.As an earlier poster notes it gives you a better chance of being able to take over the host body .....;)
Smunkeeville
21-04-2006, 16:07
I am not on the 'donor registry' but my husband knows my wishes, and since after I am dead it will be up to him either way, I don't see the point in advertising that I am going to give up whatever can be used to whoever can use it.

for the record, my husband is to make sure I am really dead, donate anything of use to people who need it, and then donate the rest of me to the body farm. There will be a memorial service in whatever style the girls and he will find most comforting. That is all.
Iztatepopotla
21-04-2006, 16:24
Brain to science,
My brain is going to science fiction :)

Yesterday, a small ball of fat that had been attached to my armpit for about twenty years and that I thought could be my twin brother fell off. I donated it to a bunch of ants. Maybe they'll clone me.
Evil Cantadia
21-04-2006, 17:27
They can use my organs for medical reasons, science, whatever. They are of no use to me whatsoever.

What I find ridiculous is that most people don't mind being organ donors, but most are too lazy to ever fill out the card, resulting in huge long waits for organ transplants.

They should implement a negative response system. I.e. you are presumed to want to be an organ donor unless you fill out a card that says otherwise. People say that is a violation of personal integrity but come on ... if you care about your organs that much, then you can take the time to fill out a bloody card.

People should not be dying because most people are too bloody lazy to fill out a bloody card.
Rangerville
22-04-2006, 01:40
Yes, i'm an organ donor, first filled out the form when i was 16. I won't need my organs when i'm dead, why not give them to people who need them. I'm also on the National Bone Marrow Donor Registry here in Canada, though i have never been called yet.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
22-04-2006, 01:51
My body is my own and I will not allow anyone to take spare parts from me.

Besides, who has ever heard of a zombie who is missing his kidneys or liver, just doesn't work that way. I am going to be a tip top zombie.
Sel Appa
22-04-2006, 02:15
I don't plan to die, but if I do...I'd like to stay intact.
Boonytopia
22-04-2006, 02:16
I am. I won't need those parts once I'm dead, so why not help someone else?