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The problem with the French is....

Drunk commies deleted
20-04-2006, 20:43
Vote on the poll when it's posted. Remember, voting is your patriotic duty.
Tremerica
20-04-2006, 20:47
there's too many of them in Canada.
The Atlantian islands
20-04-2006, 20:48
Haha...I love the first option.

I picked the first but if I could I would also pick the second.
Jerusalas
20-04-2006, 20:49
Equality, Liberty, and Mediocrity!
Mariehamn
20-04-2006, 20:50
Remember, voting is your patriotic duty.
I'm not obliged.
Brains in Tanks
20-04-2006, 20:50
They are fallible humans just like everyone else and are forced to live in an imperfect world.
I V Stalin
20-04-2006, 20:51
Les singes de reddition qui mangent du fromage.

My French isn't that great, so there's probably a less clumsy way of putting it.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-04-2006, 20:55
I know it's just a Drunk commies poll but I'll still say it:

There is no problem with the French.

Not even that, but they have made some most excellent contributions to civilization. Like camembert. And baguette. And Mont St. Michel. And Sophie Marceau. And mousse au chocolat. And Daniel Auteil. And croissants - mmmmhhh, croissants. :fluffle:
Rasselas
20-04-2006, 20:56
"they are kind of, well, f*cking French… All of Europe, you must do this! Well, we’re not gonna…we’re gonna have a sandwich.”

[/Eddie Izzard]

Sorry, couldn't help it... just watched Dress to Kill
Kryozerkia
20-04-2006, 20:57
there's too many of them in Canada.
No... they like pretending that they're French and making the rest of us learn their language while refusing to learn ours... even when we don't live in their damn province.
Mariehamn
20-04-2006, 20:58
And croissants - mmmmhhh, croissants.
You forgot the danish (http://twiggs.org/images/763-raspberry-danish.jpg).
Drunk commies deleted
20-04-2006, 21:00
You forgot the danish (http://twiggs.org/images/763-raspberry-danish.jpg).
Danish? That's a "rose of the prophet Muhammad".
Sinuhue
20-04-2006, 21:02
You didn't add "they talk with their hands and make love with their mouths".

But that's not really a problem, per se...
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-04-2006, 21:02
You forgot the danish (http://twiggs.org/images/763-raspberry-danish.jpg).
No I didn't. But since you're so cocky - why are those called danish anyway? I think that's strictly USian, too. Did they originate in Denmark? Because we totally have those, too, in a hundred variations. None of which, by the way, are anywhere close to the divine perfection of a French croissant. :fluffle: (My God, I'm turning into Gravlen, what with the fluffling of foodstuffs!:eek:)
Sinuhue
20-04-2006, 21:03
No... they like pretending that they're French and making the rest of us learn their language while refusing to learn ours... even when we don't live in their damn province.
Then again, it's not like French is all that hard to learn...it certainly can't hurt...
ConscribedComradeship
20-04-2006, 21:03
No... they like pretending that they're French and making the rest of us learn their language while refusing to learn ours... even when we don't live in their damn province.

But when the language is so damn wonderful, who cares?
Kazus
20-04-2006, 21:06
I would actually like to know why many people have a problem with the French.
AB Again
20-04-2006, 21:06
No I didn't. But since you're so cocky - why are those called danish anyway? I think that's strictly USian, too. Did they originate in Denmark? Because we totally have those, too, in a hundred variations. None of which, by the way, are anywhere close to the divine perfection of a French croissant. :fluffle: (My God, I'm turning into Gravlen, what with the fluffling of foodstuffs!:eek:)

They are called Danish in the UK too, so it is not USian. And as for Camembert :p
Carnivorous Lickers
20-04-2006, 21:06
You didn't add "they talk with their hands and make love with their mouths".

But that's not really a problem, per se...


it is when you arent exactly renowned for regular hygiene
Aramossa
20-04-2006, 21:07
I have nothing against the French. They have an interesting history and culture, and if their government is having some problems right now--well, so is ours (USA).
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-04-2006, 21:09
They are called Danish in the UK too, so it is not USian. And as for Camembert :p
Nothing against Camembert! o.O :p

But yeah, I didn't know they were called that in the UK, too. It seemed so typically American to just pick random countries as names for random food. :p
Sinuhue
20-04-2006, 21:10
I would actually like to know why many people have a problem with the French.
On a global scale they don't. But if you live in the US, it may seem overwhelming.
Sinuhue
20-04-2006, 21:11
it is when you arent exactly renowned for regular hygiene
:rolleyes:

That's okay...if they find their own women distasteful, they can come talk with their hands etc here...
Carnivorous Lickers
20-04-2006, 21:13
On a global scale they don't. But if you live in the US, it may seem overwhelming.

dont start speculating.
Kryozerkia
20-04-2006, 21:14
But when the language is so damn wonderful, who cares?
I like the language; not all the people.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-04-2006, 21:16
On a global scale they don't. But if you live in the US, it may seem overwhelming.
You're not kidding either.

I swear to God, the first time I *ever* even so much as heard about the concept of the "ever-surrendering Frenchies" was about half a year ago on this very forum.

And I've lived right next to them my whole frigging life, so you'd kind of think I'd have come across that some time. Nu-uh. It took a bunch of American kids to open my eyes. :rolleyes:
Mariehamn
20-04-2006, 21:18
Danish? That's a "rose of the prophet Muhammad".
If I had stated, "You forgot the rose of the prophet Muhammad (http://www.truthdig.com/images/reportuploads/danish.jpg)," my statement wouldn't be the vague reference to a fairly well known Bushism (http://www.answers.com/topic/you-forgot-poland) that it is.
But since you're so cocky - why are those called danish anyway?
You can decide that one (http://www.forward.com/articles/7440) Whereyouthinkyougoing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_pastry).
Your guess is most likely as good as mine, but the word seems to be of American origins, much like "gerrymandering". *giggles*
In Denmark Danish pastries are known as "wienerbrod", which translates to "Viennese Bread (http://www.foodiesite.com/articles/2000-09/scandanavian.jsp)". While in Vienna they are known as Danish pastries. It is thought that Danish pastry was created when some Viennese bakers were hired by Danes to work for them when there was a shortage of staff. Danish pastry is made in very much the same way as puff pastry with the addition of yeast. Danish pastry is filled with fillings including marzipan, apple puree and pastry cream. Kringle is a special Birthday Danish pastry that is shaped like a giant pretzel and filled with macaroon, currants and candied peep.
"Danish pastries (http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodcakes.html#danish) are rich confections based on a yeast dough with milk and egg, into which butter...has been folded by a method similar to that employed for making croissants...Of the various fillings, the most correct' must be the traditional Danish one, remonce; this is a Danish...term which means butter creamed with sugar and often almonds or marzipan too. But confections called Danish pastries are made in vast numbers outside Denmark, and common alternative fillings include differently flavoured sugar and butter mixtures, almond or hazelnut mixtures, jam, creme patrissiere--alone or in any combination, often with dried fruit or candied peel...The Danish name for Danish pastries is Weinerbrod, Vienna bread' (the name by which these recipes are known throughout Scandinavia an N. Germany, where they are also popular). "
---Oxford Companion to Food, Alan Davidson [Oxford University Press:Oxford] 1999 (p. 242)

"The Danish pastry (for Danish, as it is often abbreviated in American English) is a comparatively recent introduction from continental patisserie; the first reference to it in English does not appear until 1934. And the connection of this rich confection of yeast dough with Denmark is fairly tenuous; it seems to have originated in Vienna, and the Austrians for some unexplained reason associated it with Scandinavia. The Danes, paradoxically, refer to it as Wienerbrod--'Viennese bread'."
---An A to Z of Food and Drink, John Ayto [Oxford University Press:Oxford] 2002 (p. 108)

"Danish pastry...A term encompassing a variety of yeast-dough pastries rolled and filled with cheese, prune, almond paste, fruit preserves, nuts or other condiments. These pastries are a staple breakfast item, especially on the East Coast, where one orders a "Danish" prefixed by the filling desired. Although the pastries may have danish origins, these flaky buns and rolls are more often associated with New York Jewish delicatessens and bakeries. With this meaning the word first appeared in print in 1928. In California Danish pastries are sometimes called "snails," because of their snaillike appearance."
---Encyclopedia of American Food and Drink, John F. Mariani [Lebhar-Friedman:New York] 1999 (p. 109)

"The Danes call the pastry Vienna bread because when the Danish bakers went on strike in the late nineteenth century, they were replaced by Viennese bakers who made a light, flaky pastry dough. When the Danish bakers returned to work, they adopted the dough, improving it by adding their own variations and fillings, and making it uniquely theirs." ---The International Dictionary of Desserts, Pastries, and Confections, Carole Bloom [Hearst:New York] 1995 (p. 97-8)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-04-2006, 21:22
If I had stated, "You forgot the rose of the prophet Muhammad (http://www.truthdig.com/images/reportuploads/danish.jpg)," my statement wouldn't be the vague reference to a fairly well known Bushism (http://www.answers.com/topic/you-forgot-poland) that it is.

You can decide that one (http://www.forward.com/articles/7440) Whereyouthinkyougoing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_pastry).
Your guess is most likely as good as mine, but the word seems to be of American origins, much like "gerrymandering". *giggles*
Aha! Now everything is clear! Well, not really, but at least you did your homework. Well done, Sir. :p
Mariehamn
20-04-2006, 21:25
It seemed so typically American to just pick random countries as names for random food.
Turkey (http://www.sportshows.com/images/turkey.jpg)?
Terror Incognitia
20-04-2006, 21:26
I say, there is nothing wrong with the French, but the French themselves.

When that makes sense I might contribute. Don't expect me back soon.
Kryozerkia
20-04-2006, 21:27
Turkey (http://www.sportshows.com/images/turkey.jpg)?
Damnit; it looks like those Turks are going to support I-ran... better change the name of Turkey to Freedom Bird! :rolleyes:
Terror Incognitia
20-04-2006, 21:28
The Americans do pick random names for foods though. At least in one case.

The "English muffin". I have never encountered said item in England, and indeed we tend to consider muffins to be an American food.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-04-2006, 21:28
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/happy078.gif
Turkey (http://www.sportshows.com/images/turkey.jpg)?
That really made me laugh out loud.
Sinuhue
20-04-2006, 21:29
dont start speculating.
What...like you did when you made reference to hygiene?

Yeah.
Callixtina
20-04-2006, 21:31
Vote on the poll when it's posted. Remember, voting is your patriotic duty.

:upyours: allez à l'enfer et mangez ma merde!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-04-2006, 21:32
The Americans do pick random names for foods though. At least in one case.

The "English muffin". I have never encountered said item in England, and indeed we tend to consider muffins to be an American food.
The German Chocolate Cake (http://www.germanculture.com.ua/library/weekly/aa030500a.htm) is also not something you're likely to encounter outside the US of A. :p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-04-2006, 21:32
:upyours: allez à l'enfer et mangez ma merde!
Turns out, my school French isn't as rusty as I thought. :eek: :p
Khadgar
20-04-2006, 21:33
Only problem with them is that their language is just Spanish with a really dumb accent.
Mariehamn
20-04-2006, 21:34
...better change the name of Turkey to Freedom Bird!
Already (http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/turkey.html) tried (http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/baldeagle/nationalbird.cfm) ! (http://www.onceuponatoon.com/turkey.html) Har, har, har.
Terror Incognitia
20-04-2006, 21:35
:upyours: allez à l'enfer et mangez ma merde!

Someone's up for a fight.

That disproves the surrender monkey one, at least
Soheran
20-04-2006, 21:36
I voted "too many unskilled, unemployed, and disgruntled immigrants," not with the intention of supporting xenophobia, though that was probably the implication of the poll option, but with the intention of supporting economic policies aimed at economic integration of France's lower class.
Drunk commies deleted
20-04-2006, 21:36
:upyours: allez à l'enfer et mangez ma merde!
Sorry, I don't understand that gibberish. Especially the part about eating your shit. Please try typing in an actual language.
Terror Incognitia
20-04-2006, 21:38
On changing the bird, I seem to remember that Ben Franklin wrote a treatise in defence of the letter 'z', demanding that it be used more often, as was only fair since it was equal with the other letters. So not one to take entirely seriously.

*trying to imagine a turkey on the Seal of the President of the US, etc*

:D
Justianen
20-04-2006, 21:40
They’re a bunch of pansies.
Khadgar
20-04-2006, 21:46
They’re a bunch of pansies.

That would be a the cheese eating surrender monkeys option.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
20-04-2006, 22:05
"Another problem was that France was full of French people." - Some Genius or Other
And onto that, I will add that the problem with French people is that they are in France (which, as the quote already pointed out, is full of French people), and this makes them angsty and want to burn things.
The whole thing is a vicious cycle, really.
Gravlen
20-04-2006, 22:15
The problem with France is that there are too many frenchmen with tentacles. That's what's wrong, I tell you!

C'est la vie, n'est-ce pas? :p

Fast fact:
France used to own America as one of its colonies, but traded it to the British for a carton of cigarettes and the promise that no Briton ever would ever cook a meal on French soil again.
Dorstfeld
20-04-2006, 22:19
There is one nation that self-consciously refuses to kiss US butt and also refuses to succumb to the globalised US-culture. (...did I say culture??). A nation that rather holds its own language and culture high. Now there's an example.

Vive la France! Vive l'Europe!

A bas la mondialisation culturelle a l'Amérique!
Kecibukia
20-04-2006, 22:21
French Military History in a Nutshell

Gallic Wars: Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War: Mostly lost, saved at last by a female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare - "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchmen."

Italian Wars: Lost. France becomes the first and only country ever to lose two wars when fighting Italians.

Wars of Religion: France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

Thirty Years' War: France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution: Tied; Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War: Tied.

War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War: Lost, but claimed as a tie. Deluded Frogophiles the world over label the period as the height of French Military Power.

War of the Spanish Succession: Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved ever since.

American Revolution: In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare: "France only wins when America does most of the fighting".

French Revolution: Won, primarily due to the fact that the opponent was also French.

The Napoleonic Wars: Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

The Franco-Prussian War: Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

WWI: Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like not only to sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

WWII: Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

War in Indochina: Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with Dien Bien Flu.

Algerian Rebellion: Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a Western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare -"We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese, and Eskimos.

War on Terrorism: France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe.
Tactical Grace
20-04-2006, 22:23
I am flattered that I have finally made it into a poll option instead of Myrth. However, this type of content is against forum rules. ;)