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In the hope of raising the level of discourse around here, I offer the following discussion. In men's rooms in the US, if you have to take a dump in a public toilet of any reasonable size, you generally have two options--the standard closet sized toilet, and the handicapped accessible execuitve suite. (I presume there's a similar setup in women's rooms--after all, I've seen sofas in some of them, so I can't imagine that they'd skimp on the actual toilet.)

So which do you choose, in the event that you are faced with the generally unpleasant necessity of voiding in a relatively non-private environment, assuming you are not, as my one-armed father describes himself, handi-crippled? Do you head for the closet, or go for the executive suite and hope no one comes wheeling in while you're in there?

Take the poll?

...

*blinks and backs away from the thread*

The 'suite', every time. Emergency cords, handrails, the whole frickin' shebang. It's great. Plus there's actually room to stretch your legs out without having to put your feet under the door.

yah, if they'd make the closet one just 1 foot wider, doesn't even hafta be on both sides, i'd be more comfortable in that one. but i prefer the "suite"

What's wrong with you man?

What's wrong with you man?
Three hours of sleep, lots of papers to grade, and a 13 hour day at school because I have to go to a Sigma Tau Delta induction tonight.

I'll only drop a duece in a public toilet if its a dire emergency. Otherwise, I can put it off for a long time.

If I have to, I use the suite, primarily because the toilet is usually offset from the door-off to the side. Less concern of goons learing through the space to see if someone is in there.
Yes- I do like a private dump.

And-on a related topic, I carry a travel pack of disinfectant wipes in my briefcase or backpack to clean the toilet before I use it- just a paper nest on the seat doesnt make me feel any safer. As well as the handle on the inside of the door.

Poo in a public toilet? have you lost your mind?

*shudders*

I don't even do that when other people are in the house

I have people that do that sort of thing for me....:rolleyes:

Poo in a public toilet? have you lost your mind?

*shudders*

I don't even do that when other people are in the house

I have people that do that sort of thing for me....:rolleyes:


Thats great! :)

I've been married 13 years and still have no proof my wife has ever pooped.

I think its safe to say we share everything, expect that. Two bathrooms is a big plus.

Thats great! :)

I've been married 13 years and still have no proof my wife has ever pooped.

I think its safe to say we share everything, expect that. Two bathrooms is a big plus.
I've never seen my girlfriend poop, and we've been together for nearly six years, but if you consider aromatic remnants to be proof, then proof I have. :D

Thats great! :)

I've been married 13 years and still have no proof my wife has ever pooped.

I think its safe to say we share everything, expect that. Two bathrooms is a big plus.


That is the big difference between men and woman, as far as I am concerned, most of my body functions are not something to boast about or share with friends....I try to keep somethings to myself, and see no reason why men want to let us all know 'about this one time, when I did a dump ten foot long' or 'I farted so bad that people left the room' etc...I mean...come on guys....ewwwwwwwwwww

I've never seen my girlfriend poop, and we've been together for nearly six years, but if you consider aromatic remnants to be proof, then proof I have. :D

Keep it that way.

I guess the lingering aroma issue is eliminated in my case by having more than one bathroom. In addition to the two bathrooms upstairs, I have the privacy of a half bath next to my office in the finished basement. All have good exhaust fans too. Just a little thing you take for granted until you visit a friend that has only one that always seems like its a "hot zone".

You people are weird hypochondriacs. I recommend you don't ever attempt to leave your country of origin, or maybe even your house of origin. :p

I have seen and used 'toilets' that would leave you guys traumatised for life.

This thread made me giggle:p

We too have more than one bathroom and life is all the sweeter for it...I do often however, walk into what I can only describe as the 'physical presence' left behind by the Canadian after a night of thai and beer.....

Keep it that way.

I guess the lingering aroma issue is eliminated in my case by having more than one bathroom. In addition to the two bathrooms upstairs, I have the privacy of a half bath next to my office in the finished basement. All have good exhaust fans too. Just a little thing you take for granted until you visit a friend that has only one that always seems like its a "hot zone".
Oh, we plan to, even though we only have one bathroom. Some things don't need to be shared. :D

We too have more than one bathroom and life is all the sweeter for it...I do often however, walk into what I can only describe as the 'physical presence' left behind by the Canadian after a night of thai and beer.....

YEOW!!! *runs away screaming*

This thread made me giggle:p
Then I have accomplished my goal. ;)

Then I have accomplished my goal. ;)

Wee and poo and farts are funny

Then I have accomplished my goal. ;)
*giggles more*;)

Heck, I've fertilized the field using a corn cob, or weed leaf for TP. Nothing in a public restroom bothers me.

Heck, I've fertilized the field using a corn cob, or weed leaf for TP. Nothing in a public restroom bothers me.

You wiped your butt with a corn COB? you are a very sick person...go away :eek:

Heck, I've fertilized the field using a corn cob, or weed leaf for TP. Nothing in a public restroom bothers me.What about an overused outdoor public croach toilet, sans TP, sans door, and in a hot climate. I've a worse toilet than that described to me by a friend, and that they tried to charge her for the privledge. She said just went round the back and into a field and did her business there.

You wiped your butt with a corn COB? you are a very sick person...go away :eek:
The dried out corn leafs were too crunchie

The dried out corn leafs were too crunchieI still can't imagine the cob working too well.

I still can't imagine the cob working too well.


Just don't....don't imagine...don't even try....it's too horrible to imagine....NO!:headbang:

I still can't imagine the cob working too well.
I remember when people used the catalogs they got in the mail. You had to be careful using the slick pages.

Almanac is better. Catalog color ink tends to smear....


WHAT? You've never looked at your fingers after reading through a circular?


(Defecate in a public toilet -- dire emergencies only. Urinate? Yes -- in hover mode or with those paper shields on.)

Almanac is better. Catalog color ink tends to smear....


And the problem with a little color in that region is?

This has to stop!

You people are weird hypochondriacs. I recommend you don't ever attempt to leave your country of origin, or maybe even your house of origin. :p

I have seen and used 'toilets' that would leave you guys traumatised for life.
Heh...I've used Turkish toilets and a toilet on a Bulgarian train. Believe me, never use a toilet on a Bulgarian train. There was a fresh shit on the floor.

NO!

I am going to have to leave now.....don't all talk about me while I have gone

NO!

I am going to have to leave now.....don't all talk about me while I have gone
Feeling a pressing need, are we? ;)

See? I told y'all I was going to raise the level of discourse around here.

And the problem with a little color in that region is?

Almanac = more absorbant.

If you're smearing color, you're smearing something else too.

Feeling a pressing need, are we? ;)

See? I told y'all I was going to raise the level of discourse around here.

NO! :eek: See I knew this would happen, I am hungry and need to eat before I crack and go buy fudge and chocolate and nice things....

There is no pressing need in my forseable future other than the desire for confectionary and junk food...

Anymore, it's a suite no matter what I have to do, if I can manage it... because usually my 2 year old is coming with me, and it just get very cramped up in a regular stall.

Almanac = more absorbant.

If you're smearing color, you're smearing something else too.

Yes, smearing all sorts of nasty stuff, not to mention that some of us can be allergic to the ink, and on sensitive skin, it gets itchy...

Wee and poo and farts are funny


They come from your ass and smell bad- of course they are funny.


And a fart is just shit without the mess. (usually)

You people are weird hypochondriacs. I recommend you don't ever attempt to leave your country of origin, or maybe even your house of origin. :p

I have seen and used 'toilets' that would leave you guys traumatised for life.

I've seen and used them too. In 38 years,I've seen some real toilet horrors. Doesnt mean I wanted to.

Nor do I want to share any microbes with the folks that put the toilets in that condition.

They come from your ass and smell bad- of course they are funny.


And a fart is just shit without the mess. (usually)
Unless its one of those dreaded sharts :eek:

Unless its one of those dreaded sharts :eek:


Yep- when the unknowing victim draws mud...

Unless its one of those dreaded sharts :eek:
*cowers in fear*

Ahem. Anyway, it's the suite for me, every time. I never actually seen a disabled guy use a public toilets. There is more to those wheelchairs than meets the eye, think about it. Or rather don't.

Suite because they are always cleaner. But I never use public bathrooms.

When I'm in Philly, if I have to go, I wait till I get home.. two hours later.

in the men's room on my floor at work... there are three stalls.

two closet-size stalls and one executive suite.

If it's open, I take the suite.

What, nobody poops in the urinal?

When I was in Boot Camp, during a class in general seamanship and knot-tying, we were given a 'head' break. The head in question was under rennovations we were told. I expected maybe no mirrors, or construction materials lying around. Maybe unpainted walls. So we all lined up to use the restroom. ABout eighty of us. Eventually, I got into the bathroom proper and I saw to my horror what 'rennovations' meant; No stalls!! :eek:

There in the head were four toilets lined up in a neat row with four of my fellow shipmates doing their best to make themselves vanish sitting upon them. Rolls of toilet paper sat on the floor. Horrific. As I weighted my need to poo with my horror at the situation, I noticed that I wasn't the only one; Several people in line simply headed back out. No wonder it moved so fast! :p

Would you like to know whether I stayed and pooed or whether I left? And break the suspense? Nah. :p

-snip-
I have little to contribute to this thread, but I feel compelled to highlight options in my country.
1. I avoid to take a dump in a public toilet over here, unless it is the one at MacDonald's (or other such clean facilities). The "standard" public toilet in Romania is horrid.
2. We have an unsual option over here: the Turkish toilet. It consists of a porcelain (enamel? hell, I don't know the term) floor with a hole in it. In front of the hole, there are two "bass relief" thingies in the shape of soles, on which you are supposed to place your feet (they have some minor adherence). You gently balance while you take a dump in the whole (usually, there is nothing to grab or lean on). Oh, and: the hole is about 4 inches in diameter, which means that, if you need to take a dump, you may be trying hard not to sit on some guy's feces (either because that guy can't aim, or because he or she had a full meal).

I have little to contribute to this thread, but I feel compelled to highlight options in my country.
1. I avoid to take a dump in a public toilet over here, unless it is the one at MacDonald's (or other such clean facilities). The "standard" public toilet in Romania is horrid.
2. We have an unsual option over here: the Turkish toilet. It consists of a porcelain (enamel? hell, I don't know the term) floor with a hole in it. In front of the hole, there are two "bass relief" thingies in the shape of soles, on which you are supposed to place your feet (they have some minor adherence). You gently balance while you take a dump in the whole (usually, there is nothing to grab or lean on). Oh, and: the hole is about 4 inches in diameter, which means that, if you need to take a dump, you may be trying hard not to sit on some guy's feces (either because that guy can't aim, or because he or she had a full meal).

Adventures in Pooing! :D

Well i take shits all the time in public toliets!

I dont have any preference where i go, as long as its got toliet paper and a seat !

I have no problems using public toilets as long as there is a seat and some toilet paper. If I can go over a month backpacking with no toilet and running out of TP halfway through a public toilet aint bad.

The only real "going to the bathroom adventure" I've had was when I was camping out. There were (actually pretty decent) Porta Potties around, but they were sort of hidden away. I went to sleep drunk, woke up in much the same condition, and had to pee so bad it was ridiculous. Needless to say, I wandered aimlessly in the dark for a bit, then just peed in the grass.

Living in America is a wonderful thing when it comes to public toilets. I live in CA, where toilet seat covers are required by law.

Three hours of sleep, lots of papers to grade, and a 13 hour day at school because I have to go to a Sigma Tau Delta induction tonight.

Sigma Tau Delta?

STD? Sexually Transmitted Disease

I'm sure that can't be right...

Somehow, I knew this thread would survive. We seem to like to talk shit enough. ;)




















Sorry. I'll just be over here.

Sigma Tau Delta?

STD? Sexually Transmitted Disease

I'm sure that can't be right...
Sadly, I'm afraid those are the letters. I have no idea what they stand for in the Greek.

living in a dorm, I have no choice. There are two stalls for the 20 guys on the floor. No executive suite either. Just...two stalls. Let me tell you, after a weekend of drinking...the smells could peel paint.

The most amusing incident was one day when I was shaving. My RA comes in, he complains about how someone puked in the sink again, goes into a stall, and a few seconds later yells "God damn it, there's pee on the seat!", comes out a second later, and storms out of the bathroom saying "I don't get paid enough"

kinda felt bad for the guy.

Sadly, I'm afraid those are the letters. I have no idea what they stand for in the Greek.

That's even better than DIK from Van Wilder, and it's real XD

What, nobody poops in the urinal?


I've seen that before. You can usually tell if there is a turd exposed to the air as you first set foot in the bathroom.

I truly feel for the janitors and attendants that have to deal with the scumbags that cant treat the facilities with a little respect.

No one owes you a clean toilet to use.

Somehow, I knew this thread would survive. We seem to like to talk shit enough. ;)







Many conversations lead toward bodily functions and their results.

It just shows we're comfortable with each other.

2. We have an unsual option over here: the Turkish toilet. It consists of a porcelain (enamel? hell, I don't know the term) floor with a hole in it. In front of the hole, there are two "bass relief" thingies in the shape of soles, on which you are supposed to place your feet (they have some minor adherence). You gently balance while you take a dump in the whole (usually, there is nothing to grab or lean on). Oh, and: the hole is about 4 inches in diameter, which means that, if you need to take a dump, you may be trying hard not to sit on some guy's feces (either because that guy can't aim, or because he or she had a full meal).
Uh-huh. I used one while in Bulgaria. No toilet paper in the one I used. Fortunately, as I was on a backpacking holiday, I had some of my own with me.

Many conversations lead toward bodily functions and their results.

It just shows we're comfortable with each other.
I love you too, man. :)

handicap stall all the way, I am too fat for the regular stalls.

handicap stall all the way, I am too fat for the regular stalls.
Considering how fat we Americans are getting, I wonder how long it will be before there's a move to legally mandate wider toilet stalls? Imagine that march on Washington. :P

Considering how fat we Americans are getting, I wonder how long it will be before there's a move to legally mandate wider toilet stalls? Imagine that march on Washington. :P
March? It'd be the first ever protest drive.

I have little to contribute to this thread, but I feel compelled to highlight options in my country.
1. I avoid to take a dump in a public toilet over here, unless it is the one at MacDonald's (or other such clean facilities). The "standard" public toilet in Romania is horrid.
2. We have an unsual option over here: the Turkish toilet. It consists of a porcelain (enamel? hell, I don't know the term) floor with a hole in it. In front of the hole, there are two "bass relief" thingies in the shape of soles, on which you are supposed to place your feet (they have some minor adherence). You gently balance while you take a dump in the whole (usually, there is nothing to grab or lean on). Oh, and: the hole is about 4 inches in diameter, which means that, if you need to take a dump, you may be trying hard not to sit on some guy's feces (either because that guy can't aim, or because he or she had a full meal).

So...you cant really piss at the same time, right?
Where are your pants for this process? Cause its Splatter-Time.

I'd much rather dump in the woods.

March? It'd be the first ever protest drive.


With pushcart vendors? :p

With pushcart vendors? :p
And ice cream machines.:D

With pushcart vendors? :p

And ice cream machines. :D

As someone was saying in the porn thread - demand engenders supply. :p

As someone was saying in the porn thread - demand engenders supply. :p


Therefore, someone better roll out the larger porta potties for this protest-after the pushcart vendors and ice cream supply, we dont want to have all the demand on the ground.

I usually head for the closet, assuming I can find one that looks somewhat clean. I am not really that concerned about the size, so long as the door closes most of the way.

As someone was saying in the porn thread - demand engenders supply. :p


I'm demanding porn!!

Getting back to the topic at hand - shitting (well, that's what it is) - once when i was wild camping (walking with a tent) evacuation was required. As we were camping on a col and it was 6.30am a handy hollow was found. The sun was rising, the view was great, and moss was handy. Beats a public toilet any day.:cool:

Getting back to the topic at hand - shitting (well, that's what it is) - once when i was wild camping (walking with a tent) evacuation was required. As we were camping on a col and it was 6.30am a handy hollow was found. The sun was rising, the view was great, and moss was handy. Beats a public toilet any day.:cool:
Heh, last (music) festival I went to, I didn't shit for 5 days. The toilets there were horrendous. Pissed up against a fence once a night, that was the extent of my toileting for that festival.

I'm demanding porn!!
You're on the internet...

I'm demanding porn!!
:fluffle:

Fluffle p0rn :D

You're on the internet...

whaddya just type in "p-o-r-n"? :p

That's even better than DIK from Van Wilder, and it's real XD

We had DIK's at my college... they got really pissed when you called 'em "Dick" insead of "Deek". Heh. Not like I ever did that or anything.

Y'know what else was really fun? Going up and sitting down in the middle of their table in the cafeteria, and smile sweetly at them when they came back. What were they gonna do, beat me up? *falls down laughing* I got an entire about 20 of 'em to move away from the table once. That, or moving all their keys they left to "save seats" for themselves, and then watching them panic when they got back and every single set of keys were gone. What sort of moron uses keys to save a seat, anyway? Hey, some even used wallets, too...

We had DIK's at my college... they got really pissed when you called 'em "Dick" insead of "Deek". Heh. Not like I ever did that or anything.

Y'know what else was really fun? Going up and sitting down in the middle of their table in the cafeteria, and smile sweetly at them when they came back. What were they gonna do, beat me up? *falls down laughing* I got an entire about 20 of 'em to move away from the table once. That, or moving all their keys they left to "save seats" for themselves, and then watching them panic when they got back and every single set of keys were gone. What sort of moron uses keys to save a seat, anyway? Hey, some even used wallets, too...
It's that sense of entitlement, that idea that no one would ever dare to fuck with them because of who they are. When I was an undergrad, it was the Theta Xi guys who were like that. In grad school, it was the SAEs, and now, at my current university, it's the Sig Eps. Different fraternities, same attitudes.

Needless to say, I really don't like it when someone who doesn't need to use the handicapped stall uses it. Not good, people. Just a little pet peeve of mine.

Needless to say, I really don't like it when someone who doesn't need to use the handicapped stall uses it. Not good, people. Just a little pet peeve of mine.

Its by far the cleanest if you HAVE to go.

*can't believe she is answering*

since I have to take two children to the restroom with me if I go in public (and let's be honest they mostly end up in there at home too) and will have to until the end of time (or that's how it feels today at least) I most often opt for the "suite" if however I don't just skip out and go to a fast food restraunt bathroom where they don't have stalls at all, but just the individual bathroom.

Its by far the cleanest if you HAVE to go.


Yeah? Well you try fitting a wheelchair into a regular stall.

Yeah? Well you try fitting a wheelchair into a regular stall.
yeah, I know (I mean not really) but I couldn't fit into a regular stall when I was pregnant, I mean what is the deal with the door opening in, and only 1/2 inch of clearance between that and the potty?!

I was in a wheelchair for a month once, and I have never been so appaled by the lack of consideration that most public places have. I feel for you, I really do.

Thats great! :)

I've been married 13 years and still have no proof my wife has ever pooped.

I think its safe to say we share everything, expect that. Two bathrooms is a big plus.

LOL, I remember on our honeymoon (my husband's and mine) that I got up to go to the bathroom, and he asked (my husband) "where are you going?" and I said "to the bathroom" and he looked at me shocked, apparently the entire time we had been dating I had never gone to the bathroom when we were together (not my plan or anytbing) and he had started to wonder if they lied to him in the book "Everyone poops" LOL:D

yeah, I know (I mean not really) but I couldn't fit into a regular stall when I was pregnant, I mean what is the deal with the door opening in, and only 1/2 inch of clearance between that and the potty?!

I was in a wheelchair for a month once, and I have never been so appaled by the lack of consideration that most public places have. I feel for you, I really do.


Thanks, sweetie. You're right, you know. There are far too many loopholes in the ADA. There are still plenty of places I can't go because I can't get into the building. And quite frankly, it gets annoying that I am apparently invisible in large groups of people. Do you know how many times someone cuts in front of me then acts like it's my fault that we nearly collide? (but that's another rant).

Needless to say, I really don't like it when someone who doesn't need to use the handicapped stall uses it. Not good, people. Just a little pet peeve of mine.

I agree. If you're not disabled, you have no business using the disabled stall. Though I suppose I can see an exception if you're pregnant and can't fit in a normal stall (pregnant, not just fat). I'm disabled and only use them for a quick pee. If I'm going to be longer, I use a regular stall and leave the disabled one for someone who might need it more.

Does it bother anyone else that 35 out 84 said they'd use the handicapped stall, and only 15 said they wouldn't?

Its by far the cleanest if you HAVE to go.

So that makes it ok to inconvience the disabled even further? For many disabled people, when they have to go, they have to go right then. They don't always have the luxury of being able to hold it in like you can.

Does it bother anyone else that 35 out 84 said they'd use the handicapped stall, and only 15 said they wouldn't?
Yeah, and I made the poll and the thread. I use the closet, personally, even though I voted for "What's wrong with you?" The only exception I make is if there's no other toilet available, and then I make it as quick as possible, just in case someone who really needs it comes in.

I actually had someone push me out of the way once so he could use the stall. That, I thought, was a bit much. The guy was really, really drunk at the time, but still...

Does it bother anyone else that 35 out 84 said they'd use the handicapped stall, and only 15 said they wouldn't?

No.

Its not that we dont have consideration for the disabled...its that not a single person, disabled or able, wants to use stalls where there is no room to move around, theres piss on the floor and seat ect....trust me, if we had better facilities, we wouldnt use your shitter...but we dont.

Sort of like in parking lots.

No one (that I know) not disabled uses the handicapped parking lot. Why? Because its fucked up, but more realistcly, we dont have a need to...they provide other spots that are just as good.

The same cannot be applied to the bathroom.

That is the big difference between men and woman, as far as I am concerned, most of my body functions are not something to boast about or share with friends....I try to keep somethings to myself, and see no reason why men want to let us all know 'about this one time, when I did a dump ten foot long' or 'I farted so bad that people left the room' etc...I mean...come on guys....ewwwwwwwwwww
Is that why the Japanese students at the Japanese Girls School in Spokane (WA, US) would flush evert 10 seconds... just in case someone might hear the hiss of labial piss?

I didn't know English types felt that way too....

The only real "going to the bathroom adventure" I've had was when I was camping out. There were (actually pretty decent) Porta Potties around, but they were sort of hidden away. I went to sleep drunk, woke up in much the same condition, and had to pee so bad it was ridiculous. Needless to say, I wandered aimlessly in the dark for a bit, then just peed in the grass. Go find, and buy, a book called "How to Shit in the Woods". Google it. It's a great book, written by a Woman. Has a chapter called "For Women Only - How not to pee in your boots" :p

In the suite at my school, the crack outside the door is so huge, everyone can see through it, and the toilet is conviently positioned at the exact angle nessacary for hand-washers to get a full view in the mirror. Not cool.

In the suite at my school, the crack outside the door is so huge, everyone can see through it, and the toilet is conviently positioned at the exact angle nessacary for hand-washers to get a full view in the mirror. Not cool.


Someone had a sick sense of humor when they designed that.

No.

Its not that we dont have consideration for the disabled...its that not a single person, disabled or able, wants to use stalls where there is no room to move around, theres piss on the floor and seat ect....trust me, if we had better facilities, we wouldnt use your shitter...but we dont.

Sort of like in parking lots.

No one (that I know) not disabled uses the handicapped parking lot. Why? Because its fucked up, but more realistcly, we dont have a need to...they provide other spots that are just as good.

The same cannot be applied to the bathroom.


As I told Asbena, then you try getting a wheelchair into a regular stall.

No.

Its not that we dont have consideration for the disabled...its that not a single person, disabled or able, wants to use stalls where there is no room to move around, theres piss on the floor and seat ect....trust me, if we had better facilities, we wouldnt use your shitter...but we dont.

What are you, 7'10"? Why do you need to strech out while squatting on the toilet? I don't get it. Yes, they are a bit small. But they are designed to accomidate the vast majority of the population. It is not a lounge to relax or text message in. Just do your business and get out.

And it's not like you can't wipe up a little pee off a toilet seat or "hover" over it. The disabled guy/gal can't. Just becaus some idiot messes up your stall doesn't give you licence to do the same to the disabled stall. The more people like you who use it, the worse it gets too.

And if you are truly unhappy with the stall you are generously provided for free, complain to the manager and demand it be cleaned. Take photos of bad stalls with your cell phone camera and tell the responsible party that you are posting it to the net if he/she doesnt take care of it. You have many options other than using the disabled stall.

I agree. If you're not disabled, you have no business using the disabled stall. Though I suppose I can see an exception if you're pregnant and can't fit in a normal stall (pregnant, not just fat). I'm disabled and only use them for a quick pee. If I'm going to be longer, I use a regular stall and leave the disabled one for someone who might need it more.

What if no disabled people are around that would need to use it and it's the only stall available? Is it okay then?

What if no disabled people are around that would need to use it? Is it okay then?

But how could you know that? You never know who is going to come into a public bathroom after you.

But how could you know that? You never know who is going to come into a public bathroom after you.
Then the disabled person will do as any other person, wait their turn... though decent people will let them to go to the head of the que to the designated stall.

Just because they are disabled doesn't mean they automatically have less of an ability to hold their water untill the stall frees up.

But how could you know that? You never know who is going to come into a public bathroom after you.

I couldn't know that for sure. But I've never seen a disabled person in my school washroom; they're usually allowed out of class five minutes early so they can avoid the tidal wave of students at the bell.

Just because they are disabled doesn't mean they automatically have less of an ability to hold their water untill the stall frees up.

That's not always true. I can usually hold it, but many of us with spinal cord injuries have problems doing just that due to nerve damage, problems with reflexes, and such. When they have to go, they have to go NOW. Trying to make them to wait results in unplesant and embarrasing accidents. If that happens to someone because you are selfishly hogging their toilet, are you prepared to take him/her home, clean them up, and pay for their dry cleaning?

Is that always the case? No. But it is a very real possibility and the reason they reserve a stall (and it's just one stall regaurdless of how many regular stalls are available).

Then the disabled person will do as any other person, wait their turn... though decent people will let them to go to the head of the que to the designated stall.

Just because they are disabled doesn't mean they automatically have less of an ability to hold their water untill the stall frees up.
Automatically? You're right. But if they're in a wheelchair, it raises the possibility to near certainty.

Is that always the case? No. But it is a very real possibility and the reason they reserve a stall (and it's just one stall regaurdless of how many regular stalls are available).

If the stall/restroom is reserved I would agree. But they are not. hey are "accessible", not reserved. there is a difference.

IMO, if there are non-accessible stalls available, use them. If you can wait for a non-accessible stall, do so. But if the biological imperative strikes, the open stall is the open stall. First come first served. Why should a non-disabled person be made to wait when "it results in unplesant and embarrasing accidents" on the off chance someone with a mobility imparement might find themselves in the same situation?

Biological Necessity is Biological Necessity. If the Accessible Stall already had a handicapped occupant when someone in another chair/walker arrived, would it be the fault of the stall occupant that the person waiting messed themself?

Non handicapped people should never use an accessible stall unless it is necessary, but they shouldn't be shat upon for doing so, as necessry, either.

It's not just inconvient. Making someone with a spinal cord injury "hold it," can also cause a possbily fatal condition called autonomic dysreflexia.

" Autonomic dysreflexia means an over-activity of the Autonomic Nervous System. It can occur when an irritating stimulus is introduced to the body below the level of spinal cord injury, such as an overfull bladder. The stimulus sends nerve impulses to the spinal cord, where they travel upward until they are blocked by the lesion at the level of injury. Since the impulses cannot reach the brain, a reflex is activated that increases activity of the sympathetic portion of autonomic nervous system. This results in spasms and a narrowing of the blood vessels, which causes a rise in the blood pressure. Nerve receptors in the heart and blood vessels detect this rise in blood pressure and send a message to the brain. The brain sends a message to the heart, causing the heartbeat to slow down and the blood vessels above the level of injury to dilate. However, the brain cannot send messages below the level of injury, due to the spinal cord lesion, and therefore the blood pressure cannot be regulated."

"There can be many stimuli that cause autonomic dysreflexia. Anything that would have been painful, uncomfortable, or physically irritating before the injury may cause autonomic dysreflexia after the injury.

The most common cause seems to be overfilling of the bladder. This could be due to a blockage in the urinary drainage device, bladder infection (cystitis), inadequate bladder emptying, bladder spasms, or possibly stones in the bladder. The second most common cause is a bowel that is full of stool or gas. Any stimulus to the rectum, such as digital stimulation, can trigger a reaction, leading to autonomic dysreflexia. "

http://calder.med.miami.edu/pointis/automatic.html

But by all means, rationalize it away. :rolleyes:

How barbaric, I use the family bathroom... nothing like a little privacy. ;)

Failing that I pick the cleanest toilet, normal or handi... although I won't use a bathroom with someone else in it.

Not to mention that the handicapped toilets are often less frequently used than the standard block - therefore a lesser likelihood of unspeakable stains.

How barbaric, I use the family bathroom... nothing like a little privacy. ;)

Failing that I pick the cleanest toilet, normal or handi... although I won't use a bathroom with someone else in it.

Isn't that weird! Men will shower together and change together, but they won't dare go to the bathroom next to each other!

Isn't that weird! Men will shower together and change together, but they won't dare go to the bathroom next to each other!


I have taken a shower with other women, and got changed too.....I have also shared a cubicle with two other women in a nightclub for a wee....but I would never POO in front of ANYONE...it's just wrong wrong wrong.....

Isn't that weird! Men will shower together and change together, but they won't dare go to the bathroom next to each other!

I don't mind changing or showering in front of either gender, it's not a big deal.

I'm just more private in my bathroom habits then a cat.

I'm beginning to see why some places put exterior locks on the disabled toilets. You selfish bastards. If you're so worried about cleanliness why not just carry a spray bottle of distinfectant from. You can get them in small portable sizes from your local chemist quite cheaply.

I think once I was in a building where to disabled toilets had swipe card locks on them and the cards were issued to people who needed them at reception.

I'm beginning to see why some places put exterior locks on the disabled toilets. You selfish bastards. If you're so worried about cleanliness why not just carry a spray bottle of distinfectant from. You can get them in small portable sizes from your local chemist quite cheaply.

I think once I was in a building where to disabled toilets had swipe card locks on them and the cards were issued to people who needed them at reception.
Actually in many public toilets in the UK, the disabled facility has a RADAR (it's an acronym) key. Disabled people have to apply for a key and prove they are disabled to be given one. Also, a lot of pubs have the key to the disabled toilet behind the bar, and you have to ask for it if you want to use it.

Actually in many public toilets in the UK, the disabled facility has a RADAR (it's an acronym) key. Disabled people have to apply for a key and prove they are disabled to be given one. Also, a lot of pubs have the key to the disabled toilet behind the bar, and you have to ask for it if you want to use it.

Haha that just reminded me of a vagualy related thing. the cops have started getting paranoid about disabled people. they made a kid with cerebral palsy get out of his wheelchair and try to walk just to prove he was disabled. then they dragged a paraplegic out of a car they thought hed stolen, and beat him when he wouldnt get up. Those crazy cops, what will they do next?

Oh yeah, the poll. Id go with the nicer one. as someone with IBS its a dilema i am often faced with. Its like being a cripple, but with poo.

I try to avoid it and if I must, build the obligatory nest of toiletpaper

Actually in many public toilets in the UK, the disabled facility has a RADAR (it's an acronym) key. Disabled people have to apply for a key and prove they are disabled to be given one. Also, a lot of pubs have the key to the disabled toilet behind the bar, and you have to ask for it if you want to use it.Oh, is that what it was. I was just guessing as to hope worked, but trying to make it look as if I knew what I was talking about. c.c

It's not just inconvient. Making someone with a spinal cord injury "hold it," can also cause a possbily fatal condition called autonomic dysreflexia.

" Autonomic dysreflexia means an over-activity of the Autonomic Nervous System. It can occur when an irritating stimulus is introduced to the body below the level of spinal cord injury, such as an overfull bladder. The stimulus sends nerve impulses to the spinal cord, where they travel upward until they are blocked by the lesion at the level of injury. Since the impulses cannot reach the brain, a reflex is activated that increases activity of the sympathetic portion of autonomic nervous system. This results in spasms and a narrowing of the blood vessels, which causes a rise in the blood pressure. Nerve receptors in the heart and blood vessels detect this rise in blood pressure and send a message to the brain. The brain sends a message to the heart, causing the heartbeat to slow down and the blood vessels above the level of injury to dilate. However, the brain cannot send messages below the level of injury, due to the spinal cord lesion, and therefore the blood pressure cannot be regulated."

"There can be many stimuli that cause autonomic dysreflexia. Anything that would have been painful, uncomfortable, or physically irritating before the injury may cause autonomic dysreflexia after the injury.

The most common cause seems to be overfilling of the bladder. This could be due to a blockage in the urinary drainage device, bladder infection (cystitis), inadequate bladder emptying, bladder spasms, or possibly stones in the bladder. The second most common cause is a bowel that is full of stool or gas. Any stimulus to the rectum, such as digital stimulation, can trigger a reaction, leading to autonomic dysreflexia. "

http://calder.med.miami.edu/pointis/automatic.html

But by all means, rationalize it away. :rolleyes:

wow. now I feel better about leaving to go use the bathroom elsewhere. I have only really used the handicap stall when I couldn't leave and my kids were with me (and I don't use it for them, when they go they use the little stall, and I wait outside) oh, and then there are places where the changing table is in the handicap stall, I used to have to use it then. (not changing my kid on the dirty bathroom floor)

I think that post about the dysreflexia (?) only applies to people with spinal cord injuries. But holding it in is never healthy anyway.

I think that post about the dysreflexia (?) only applies to people with spinal cord injuries. But holding it in is never healthy anyway.
doesn't matter to me, I don't want to hurt anyone. If one person has that, there is a chance that they could need to use the bathroom when I am in there. It's not worth it to me to put them in that position, even if the chance of that happening is very low.

I agree. If you're not disabled, you have no business using the disabled stall. Though I suppose I can see an exception if you're pregnant and can't fit in a normal stall (pregnant, not just fat). I'm disabled and only use them for a quick pee. If I'm going to be longer, I use a regular stall and leave the disabled one for someone who might need it more.

Why not 'fat'?

I have to ask - members of my extended family (in-laws) are what you might term 'just fat'... one of them, to the extent that it was surgery or die.

You don't see that as a 'disability'?

So - someone who is too 'large' to use the regular cubicles should... what?

(You say 'just fat'... and ignore the fact that there are quite a lot of people who are 'just fat' because of a thyroid condition, for example. They are 'mdeically' fat, I guess).

doesn't matter to me, I don't want to hurt anyone. If one person has that, there is a chance that they could need to use the bathroom when I am in there. It's not worth it to me to put them in that position, even if the chance of that happening is very low.Ack, I misread your post :confused:

I thought you said something completely different in post #114. Forget what I said.

Ack, I misread your post :confused:

I thought you said something completely different in post #114. Forget what I said.
forgotten.

what did you think I said though? :confused:

it's funy... i'm sittin ghere soaking wet from the 2-block walk through heavy rain to get here (work)...

and it's time to visit the john for the morning ritual.

And I look up in General and see this thread at the top... lol.

I'll take the suite if it's open, BTW.

See y'all in 5.

It's not just inconvient. Making someone with a spinal cord injury "hold it," can also cause a possbily fatal condition called autonomic dysreflexia.

" Autonomic dysreflexia means an over-activity of the Autonomic Nervous System. It can occur when an irritating stimulus is introduced to the body below the level of spinal cord injury, such as an overfull bladder. The stimulus sends nerve impulses to the spinal cord, where they travel upward until they are blocked by the lesion at the level of injury. Since the impulses cannot reach the brain, a reflex is activated that increases activity of the sympathetic portion of autonomic nervous system. This results in spasms and a narrowing of the blood vessels, which causes a rise in the blood pressure. Nerve receptors in the heart and blood vessels detect this rise in blood pressure and send a message to the brain. The brain sends a message to the heart, causing the heartbeat to slow down and the blood vessels above the level of injury to dilate. However, the brain cannot send messages below the level of injury, due to the spinal cord lesion, and therefore the blood pressure cannot be regulated."

"There can be many stimuli that cause autonomic dysreflexia. Anything that would have been painful, uncomfortable, or physically irritating before the injury may cause autonomic dysreflexia after the injury.

The most common cause seems to be overfilling of the bladder. This could be due to a blockage in the urinary drainage device, bladder infection (cystitis), inadequate bladder emptying, bladder spasms, or possibly stones in the bladder. The second most common cause is a bowel that is full of stool or gas. Any stimulus to the rectum, such as digital stimulation, can trigger a reaction, leading to autonomic dysreflexia. "

http://calder.med.miami.edu/pointis/automatic.html

But by all means, rationalize it away. :rolleyes:

By all means, Raise the Bar. :rolleyes:

It was you who started out by saying "inconvienent and messy". Nowyou raise it to "potentially fatal".

And yet, what could you do about this potentially fatal situation if the stall was already occupied by (gasp) a handicapped person?

Should a Handicapped person have "first dibs" to access the stall if there is a que? Absolutely. Should non-handicapped people use the Accessible stall if there are other options? Absolutely not.

But let me point out a little detail for you. Even by ADA, accessible facilities are not "reserved for" but merely "accessible to".

Read the International Building Code (IBC-2003 is the current version) sometime.

LOL, I remember on our honeymoon (my husband's and mine) that I got up to go to the bathroom, and he asked (my husband) "where are you going?" and I said "to the bathroom" and he looked at me shocked, apparently the entire time we had been dating I had never gone to the bathroom when we were together (not my plan or anytbing) and he had started to wonder if they lied to him in the book "Everyone poops" LOL:D


Yeah- I guess thats literally when "The honeymoon is over", when you experience your blushing bride pinching a loaf.
I'm still glad not have have experienced that yet.

Isn't that weird! Men will shower together and change together, but they won't dare go to the bathroom next to each other!

perhaps i'm a bit neurotic when it comes to doing the #2 in public, but i'm far more comfortable crapping alone... i don't want others to hear the "plop-plop RRRRIP plop RRRRIP". I suppose i consider those to be private sounds. lol

perhaps i'm a bit neurotic when it comes to doing the #2 in public, but i'm far more comfortable crapping alone... i don't want others to hear the "plop-plop RRRRIP plop RRRRIP". I suppose i consider those to be private sounds. lol

Except on NS... where you reproduce them in textual glory? :D

Except on NS... where you reproduce them in textual glory? :D

*wonders when the "Watcha poop sound like?" thread will plop up*


I mean "pop"

*wonders when the "Watcha poop sound like?" thread will plop up*


I mean "pop"

Don't.... give... them... ideas...

Don't.... give... them... ideas...
*gets idea*

muahahahahha

*gets idea*

muahahahahha

Okay... must make EXTRA sure to be careful about which threads I look into for the next few days...

I swear, I never imagined it would last nine pages when I started the thread.


I mean, I'd hoped and all. :D

I live around the sixty north line on maps, so it was freezing when i had to sit on a metal toilet with nothing to keep it warm. :(

What the hell is wrong with you?