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Slavery wrong or right

Finish this now
20-04-2006, 02:29
Personally I belive slavery is wrong it is wrong to be able to buy another person.
Kulikovo
20-04-2006, 02:32
Agreed.
Saige Dragon
20-04-2006, 02:33
Right. It has many benefits for both parties; such as one will get effective and efficient work, while the other will recieve food, bedding, clothing and the required education to complete their job.
IL Ruffino
20-04-2006, 02:33
Like.. the kinky sex slave kind? Hell yes! *pets trusty sex slave* Mine is imported :)
Finish this now
20-04-2006, 02:34
No not that kind well that kind and black people too. I think both is wrong.
Skaladora
20-04-2006, 02:36
Like.. the kinky sex slave kind? Hell yes! *pets trusty sex slave* Mine is imported :)
Where'd you get it? I'm looking for a brand new one.
Pythogria
20-04-2006, 02:38
Personally I belive slavery is wrong it is wrong to be able to buy another person.

You have my agreeance. Sure pay someone for manual labor-- but it is wrong to buy another person.
Skaladora
20-04-2006, 02:38
No not that kind well that kind and black people too. I think both is wrong.
Why black people? They're hardly the only ones qualified for slave work.

For example, let us cite asian child workers. They make nice slaves, making us clothes and shoes.

Or Mexican food workers. Nobody picks strawberries faster than them.

See? The color of the skin has nothing to do with slavery-related qualities. I support a no-discrimination slavery policy.
Saige Dragon
20-04-2006, 02:40
Why black people? They're hardly the only ones qualified for slave work.

For example, let us cite asian child workers. They make nice slaves, making us clothes and shoes.

Or Mexican food workers. Nobody picks strawberries faster than them.

See? The color of the skin has nothing to do with slavery-related qualities. I support a no-discrimination slavery policy.

Children are great as well. Good for a variety of jobs ranging from mining to factory work. Plus they don't know anybetter than to be slaves. Little fear of uprising with children.
Finish this now
20-04-2006, 02:42
I said black people because they were the ones who got into slavery.
The Cat-Tribe
20-04-2006, 02:43
Right. It has many benefits for both parties; such as one will get effective and efficient work, while the other will recieve food, bedding, clothing and the required education to complete their job.

Please report for slave duty in the morning.
The Psyker
20-04-2006, 02:44
Do you really expect anyone to disagree with you? Oh, wait this is NS general, hm, you might have a debate on your hands.
The Cat-Tribe
20-04-2006, 02:44
I said black people because they were the ones who got into slavery.

Human trafficking is a current world problem. And not confined to Africa. Eastern Europe and Asia are particular problem areas.
The Psyker
20-04-2006, 02:45
I said black people because they were the ones who got into slavery.
But the word comes from the enslavement of white slavs....
Santa Barbara
20-04-2006, 02:46
Personally I belive slavery is wrong it is wrong to be able to buy another person.

Uh, yes. Slavery is wrong. So is murder, while we're at it.
IL Ruffino
20-04-2006, 02:47
Where'd you get it? I'm looking for a brand new one.
I got mine custom made in Bangkok. It was very cheap and easy! I'll TG you the contact info if ya want.
Desperate Measures
20-04-2006, 02:47
Right. It has many benefits for both parties; such as one will get effective and efficient work, while the other will recieve food, bedding, clothing and the required education to complete their job.
I think it's more like, YOU WILL RECEIVE FOOD, CLOTHING AND THE REQUIRED EDUCATION TO COMPLETE THE MENIAL TASK I'VE SET BEFORE YOU... OR ELSE.
The Black Forrest
20-04-2006, 02:47
Human trafficking is a current world problem. And not confined to Africa. Eastern Europe and Asia are particular problem areas.

Peru has a problem as well. The mobs take children and make the beg. You don't bring in enough; you don't eat or worst......
Ventinc
20-04-2006, 02:48
Slavery is definately wrong, and I hope that it is completely purged from the Earth in the very near future. It advocates treating one as a sub-human, as if you own them as you would a machine or an item. How can you agree with such a thing?

Anyone who does agree: What if you were a slave, and you were beaten when you did not do enough work after working for ten hours straight in manual labor? And you recieved a very, very small amount of food and a horrible, small cot infested with bugs? Do you still agree?
The Cat-Tribe
20-04-2006, 02:50
Uh, yes. Slavery is wrong. So is murder, while we're at it.

Now slavery is one thing, but where do you get off dissing murder?
The Cat-Tribe
20-04-2006, 02:51
I got mine custom made in Bangkok. It was very cheap and easy! I'll TG you the contact info if ya want.

Cheap joke. Sad reality.
IL Ruffino
20-04-2006, 02:51
Slavery is definately wrong, and I hope that it is completely purged from the Earth in the very near future. It advocates treating one as a sub-human, as if you own them as you would a machine or an item. How can you agree with such a thing?

Anyone who does agree: What if you were a slave, and you were beaten when you did not do enough work after working for ten hours straight in manual labor? And you recieved a very, very small amount of food and a horrible, small cot infested with bugs? Do you still agree?
Hunny slavery is going to be here for quite some time.
OMG! I got to use the word "hunny"!
And I don't beat my slave, she beats me! :p
Callixtina
20-04-2006, 02:52
Of course its wrong. Although there is still a very big problem coming from Eastern Europe. A lot of Red Mafias traffic in young women, mostly to Western Europe and as far as the US.
Santa Barbara
20-04-2006, 02:54
Now slavery is one thing, but where do you get off dissing murder?

Sorry. I just got carried away. Temporary insanity. :p
Holyawesomeness
20-04-2006, 02:57
Indentured servitude for a temporary pre-agreed period of time isn't really bad so long as there are a few rules and a mutually beneficial agreement, however, slavery birth to death or based on racial traits or anything like that is just bad. There is nothing wrong with a mutually beneficial contract but their is something very bad with the denial of freedom and oppression of slavery as it represents a large waste in human potential.

EDIT: Ok, I am not some big indentured servant favoring person but I was just making a point. Indentured servitude is really something that the modern world probably does not need.
Enixx Nest
20-04-2006, 03:11
EDIT: Ok, I am not some big indentured servant favoring person but I was just making a point. Indentured servitude is really something that the modern world probably does not need.

That said, Indenture does provide a useful safety net for people who fall deeply into debt or who can't find employment elsewhere, provided that there's some form of Governmental legislation to prevent mistreatment of the indentured workers.

That doesn't mean Indenture's a good thing, but it does mean it's a viable solution to certain social problems.
The Cat-Tribe
20-04-2006, 03:17
That said, Indenture does provide a useful safety net for people who fall deeply into debt or who can't find employment elsewhere, provided that there's some form of Governmental legislation to prevent mistreatment of the indentured workers.

That doesn't mean Indenture's a good thing, but it does mean it's a viable solution to certain social problems.

I love this "indentured servitude isn't a good thing, but ...."

volunteering, are we?
Enixx Nest
20-04-2006, 03:20
Hypothetically, if forced to choose between indenture and begging on the streets? Yes.
The Cat-Tribe
20-04-2006, 03:31
Hypothetically, if forced to choose between indenture and begging on the streets? Yes.

Perhaps you sell your freedom too cheaply.

Why not a social safety net instead?
Zweites
20-04-2006, 03:34
"Well I'm not sure, but I think Maxine had a slave!"
Enixx Nest
20-04-2006, 03:34
Perhaps you sell your freedom too cheaply.

Why not a social safety net instead?

If you're including that as an option, great! :D
THE LOST PLANET
20-04-2006, 04:01
Of course its wrong. Although there is still a very big problem coming from Eastern Europe. A lot of Red Mafias traffic in young women, mostly to Western Europe and as far as the US.A Myoptic view of the problem. A 2004 report stated that about 95% of the countries in the world had a signifigant number of people (at least 2500) living in some form of involuntary servitude.

If you think your country couldn't be on that list you're probably wrong.
Non Aligned States
20-04-2006, 04:46
If you think your country couldn't be on that list you're probably wrong.

Saipan and Tom Delay come to mind if I'm not mistaken. According to an article some time back on NS, the former was where slave labor took place while the latter praised it as "All that was good with the American republican party" or something like that.
Errikland
20-04-2006, 04:50
You'd be surprised how quickly a government "safety net" becomes a hammock.

When the poor are supported by voluntary charities (often religious), they are supported by people. These are people who spend some of their hard earned cash to keep you from dying. It is very personal. These people are generally less likely to turn around and rob the people (everything I say in this section has exceptions, of course). Now, when it is done by government, this is different. It is done by a highly impersonal organization (one that is not known for going out of its way not to spend outragous amounts of money). The people come to feel that this is owed to them by society, and that any attempts to end this expoitation (or to not accept an expansion of the exploitation) is seen as stealing from them. Also, these people feel no obligation to those that provide for them (if you really want to get your throat slit, go to the projects), and quickly squander the money, then demand more (as they are owed it).

Sorry for my rant (which is actually a dramatically shortened version of my entire argument) which had little to do with the actual subject of this thread.

Slavery. Bad. Murder. Bad. Stealing. Bad. I rest my case.

Indentured survitude is a subject that I have incredibly little knowledge of. But, from my extremely limited knowledge of the suject, it seems that it may be an effective way to make sure that the one who is owed money gets his value back and that the ower continues to contribute to society at the time. Of course, do not quote me, as I have noted that I have very little knowledge of the subject.
People without names
20-04-2006, 04:58
in many of todays societies it is frowned upon if not illegal, therefore most people will think down on the idea.

but...

if we were to be living in a society where alot of people owned slaves and there was a big slave market. many people would probably say there was nothing wrong with it.


owning an animal as a pet, is it right or wrong?



btw, im not saying slavery is a good thing
Daistallia 2104
20-04-2006, 05:10
I said black people because they were the ones who got into slavery.

Unlike slaves from other ethnic groups?

And even here on NS you'll have a hard time finding anyon who'll say yes and really mean it.
Osoantipatico
20-04-2006, 05:14
btw, im not saying slavery is a good thing[/SIZE]

owning an animal is fine. i saved my cat and dog from the humane society . I feed them, clean them, bring them to the vet for health. give them love and food, and they live comfortable lives. There is nothing wrong with people having pets. Now if i was abusive [whcih im not] thats a different story.....
Jerusalas
20-04-2006, 05:17
owning an animal is fine. i saved my cat and dog from the humane society . I feed them, clean them, bring them to the vet for health. give them love and food, and they live comfortable lives. There is nothing wrong with people having pets. Now if i was abusive [whcih im not] thats a different story.....

So it would be OK to own a slave, so long as you take them to the doctor, give them love and food, and allow them to live comfortable lives?
Osoantipatico
20-04-2006, 05:22
So it would be OK to own a slave, so long as you take them to the doctor, give them love and food, and allow them to live comfortable lives?

Should i pay my dog and let it run away? Theres a difference between a dog and a person.