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Chicken sex change

Drunk commies deleted
19-04-2006, 15:38
A chicken, who had been laying eggs and everything, transformed into a rooster spontaneously. Weird.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1809649.html?menu=
Fascist Emirates
19-04-2006, 15:39
Im impressed you found this article.
Grave_n_idle
19-04-2006, 15:40
A chicken, who had been laying eggs and everything, transformed into a rooster spontaneously. Weird.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1809649.html?menu=

I am a little dubious about their 'experts'.... we kept chickens when I was younger, and I saw the same thing several times.
Jeruselem
19-04-2006, 15:43
I hope it's not the food fed to the chickens ... :eek:
Grave_n_idle
19-04-2006, 15:53
I hope it's not the food fed to the chickens ... :eek:

As far as I can tell, it's a 'natural' side-effect of keeping the animals in single-sex communities. The same thing is, I believe, even MORE pronounced in some amphibians.
Palaios
19-04-2006, 16:02
There are actually other animals that do that. Such as some fish, uhhm...caribbean bluehead wrasse or something they're called. All of them are female except one that is male, and when that one dies the biggest/oldest female turns into a male and takes his place.
Jeruselem
19-04-2006, 16:03
As far as I can tell, it's a 'natural' side-effect of keeping the animals in single-sex communities. The same thing is, I believe, even MORE pronounced in some amphibians.

I guess it's for the survival of the species. You need the right balance of female and male.
Ginnoria
19-04-2006, 17:27
OH MY GOD it's a miracle!!! This is proof of the existence of God. We must now worship His sacred transsexual chickens.
Pythogria
19-04-2006, 17:33
A chicken, who had been laying eggs and everything, transformed into a rooster spontaneously. Weird.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1809649.html?menu=

What. The. Heck.
Macdar
19-04-2006, 17:39
If this would have come up last semester, I could have had this fresher in my mind: there is a genetic condition where a human being appears to be of one sex and then, once puberty kicks in, changes to that of their actual sex. Sadly, my Mutants text book got turned back in or I'd find it.
Pythogria
19-04-2006, 17:41
If this would have come up last semester, I could have had this fresher in my mind: there is a genetic condition where a human being appears to be of one sex and then, once puberty kicks in, changes to that of their actual sex. Sadly, my Mutants text book got turned back in or I'd find it.

Do you know how common that is?
Macdar
19-04-2006, 17:45
Very rare, but I don't remember any numbers.
Pythogria
19-04-2006, 17:47
Very rare, but I don't remember any numbers.

OK, just wondering.

But that would be... odd... to say the... least...
Macdar
19-04-2006, 17:48
Yeah, that whole chapter left us with a kind of creepy feeling. Spending week plus learning about hermaphrodites and things like that is not that normal.
Pythogria
19-04-2006, 17:49
Yeah, that whole chapter left us with a kind of creepy feeling. Spending week plus learning about hermaphrodites and things like that is not that normal.

Erm, no, it isn't.
Grave_n_idle
19-04-2006, 17:56
If this would have come up last semester, I could have had this fresher in my mind: there is a genetic condition where a human being appears to be of one sex and then, once puberty kicks in, changes to that of their actual sex. Sadly, my Mutants text book got turned back in or I'd find it.

It's called "5-alpha-Reductase deficiency":

"The condition 5-alpha-reductase type 2 deficiency (5-ARD) is an autosomal recessive sex-limited condition resulting in the inability to convert testosterone to the more physiologically active dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Because DHT is required for the normal masculinization of the external genitalia in utero, genetic males with 5-ARD are born with ambiguous genitalia (ie, male pseudohermaphroditism).

The described clinical abnormalities range from infertility with normal male genital anatomy to underdeveloped male with hypospadias to predominantly female external genitalia, most often with mild clitoromegaly. The uterus and fallopian tubes are absent because of the normal secretion of the müllerian-inhibiting factor. Testes are intact, as are wolffian structures (epididymis, vas deferens, seminal vesicles). Male internal ducts are present but terminate either in a blind pseudovaginal pouch or on the perineum. A hypoplastic prostate may be present, regardless of degree of undervirilization of the external genitalia.

http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic1980.htm

It is hereditary, and seemingly fairly rare.
Nadkor
19-04-2006, 21:39
Don't be ridiculous, everybody knows that changing sex is entirely unnatural, and anybody who says anything different is a stupid commie hippy.
Sinuhue
19-04-2006, 21:50
A chicken, who had been laying eggs and everything, transformed into a rooster spontaneously. Weird.


Not weird. Nature does this kind of stuff pretty often.
Sinuhue
19-04-2006, 21:51
Don't be ridiculous, everybody knows that changing sex is entirely unnatural, and anybody who says anything different is a stupid transsexual commie hippy.
fixed :fluffle:
Nadkor
19-04-2006, 21:59
fixed :fluffle:
Even better :D
Quaon
19-04-2006, 22:32
That'd be freaky for a human..."Mommy, where is are my genitals?"
Keiretsu
19-04-2006, 22:40
That'd be freaky for a human..."Mommy, where is are my genitals?"

If your kid says something like that he's got problems that are worse than a sex change.
Drunk commies deleted
19-04-2006, 22:42
If your kid says something like that he's got problems that are worse than a sex change.
Yeah. With grammar like that he might grow up to be the next George W. Bush. "Where is are my genitals"
Zolworld
19-04-2006, 23:24
I am a little dubious about their 'experts'.... we kept chickens when I was younger, and I saw the same thing several times.

Good cos i have a question. in the article (well the one I read in the paper today) it said the chicken went as far as trying to mate with the other chickens. so did it crow a penis and everything or was the change not that complete? its just the word 'try' that made me wonder.
Nadkor
19-04-2006, 23:27
Good cos i have a question. in the article (well the one I read in the paper today) it said the chicken went as far as trying to mate with the other chickens. so did it crow a penis and everything or was the change not that complete? its just the word 'try' that made me wonder.
Please tell me that's the most ingenious bird related pun ever, and not a typo.
Straughn
20-04-2006, 08:14
Please tell me that's the most ingenious bird related pun ever, and not a typo.
Don't murder the joke by drawing so much attention to it.
Xislakilinia
20-04-2006, 08:29
You know, I once had a fantasy about waking up as a woman... doing jumping jacks in front of a mirror and having cold showers for hours. My colleague thinks that is really gay.

WTF? Isn't that like the ultimate heterosexual fantasy?
Poliwanacraca
20-04-2006, 08:33
Don't murder the joke by drawing so much attention to it.

Nicely done. :)
Straughn
20-04-2006, 08:33
You know, I once had a fantasy about waking up as a woman... doing jumping jacks in front of a mirror and having cold showers for hours. My colleague thinks that is really gay.

WTF? Isn't that like the ultimate heterosexual fantasy?
So is this the "boob love" phase, 'twixt "true love" and "self-determinist"? ;)
Straughn
20-04-2006, 08:35
Nicely done. :)
Thankies, thankies! I'm here all week ... no not really, just as long as the server doesn't hate me. And that's reliably sporadic.
I was inspired by the past two days of The Daily Show/The Colbert Report :)
Xislakilinia
20-04-2006, 08:38
So is this the "boob love" phase, 'twixt "true love" and "self-determinist"? ;)

I am not much into poetry, my friend. Except the poetry of motion.

Jiggly Juggly Woobly Boobly poetry of motion.

Rats I have a one track mind.
Straughn
20-04-2006, 08:54
I am not much into poetry, my friend. Except the poetry of motion.

Jiggly Juggly Woobly Boobly poetry of motion.

Rats I have a one track mind.
Not poetry in motion?
I was taking from your riff on the "next evolution" thread .... needs more smilies, apparently.
Harlesburg
20-04-2006, 08:59
It is perverse i blame Women and their crazy Hormones poluting the water.
Xislakilinia
20-04-2006, 09:16
It is perverse i blame Women and their crazy Hormones poluting the water.

*Laps it up like a crazed bunny*
Straughn
20-04-2006, 09:44
It is perverse i blame Women and their crazy Hormones poluting the water.
Blame the red anti-barnacle paint in Boston Harbor!
Straughn
20-04-2006, 09:45
*Laps it up like a crazed bunny*
...and Harvey makes a comeback. Groovy.
Xislakilinia
20-04-2006, 09:51
...and Harvey makes a comeback. Groovy.

Nobody else fantasizes about turning into women? Or hyperactive rabbits?

Darned, I'm out of it nowadays.
Damor
20-04-2006, 09:53
it said the chicken went as far as trying to mate with the other chickens. so did it crow a penis and everything or was the change not that complete?Chickens, or rather roosters, don't have penises. They are birds. Birds do not have penises.
Just because it is a cock, doesn't mean it has one.
Harlesburg
20-04-2006, 10:02
Blame the red anti-barnacle paint in Boston Harbor!
And Communism!
Straughn
20-04-2006, 10:04
Nobody else fantasizes about turning into women? Or hyperactive rabbits?

Darned, I'm out of it nowadays.
You know what, i wouldn't worry about espousing your deepest, most intimate weird fantasies to a throng of relatively complete strangers on the internet. No shame in that.
Xislakilinia
20-04-2006, 10:09
You know what, i wouldn't worry about espousing your deepest, most intimate weird fantasies to a throng of relatively complete strangers on the internet. No shame in that.

"Must deny...must..."

Shame? I know not of this word of which you speak. Of.
Straughn
20-04-2006, 10:11
And Communism!
And the tea, obviously.
Harlesburg
20-04-2006, 10:12
"Must deny...must..."

Shame? I know not of this word of which you speak. Of.
You know we will have to use an Axe to get the 'special area' just right.
Straughn
20-04-2006, 10:13
"Must deny...must..."

Shame? I know not of this word of which you speak. Of.
You'll go far here. Remember, it's shank or be shanked. That, and depending on your preferences, try to beat someone up in public the first day. Helps ya settle comfy-like.
Harlesburg
20-04-2006, 10:14
And the tea, obviously.
Yeah it wasn't actually British at all, but Dutch Tea and the Yanks actually did themselves and the 'British' a favour by tipping it overboard.-It was poisoned.
Straughn
20-04-2006, 10:17
Yeah it wasn't actually British at all, but Dutch Tea and the Yanks actually did themselves and the 'British' a favour by tipping it overboard.-It was poisoned.
What about the clams?!? Who mourns for the clams?!? How could they not know that the clams would suffer?!?
*falls to knees, sobbing lightly*
Straughn
20-04-2006, 10:34
Nobody else fantasizes about turning into women? Or hyperactive rabbits?

Darned, I'm out of it nowadays.
Hopefully DM and DH won't gang-shank me for this ....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10739019&postcount=91

For the record, it seemed appropriate, in the grander scheme of the thread. *whimpers*
Xislakilinia
20-04-2006, 10:52
You'll go far here. Remember, it's shank or be shanked. That, and depending on your preferences, try to beat someone up in public the first day. Helps ya settle comfy-like.

Alright alright, serious post.

Like I read somewhere that about people who are born with XY chromosomes, but because of some endogenous inability to respond to testosterone, they end up with female bodies. But they are sterile. Appears that the uterus is an environment awash with potent female hormones.

One can argue that the defacto body form for human is female. Add snaps and snails and puppy dog tails (with a dash of testosterone) and we get a male. A malefactor.

There, intellectual-like. Can I post some random ramblings now?
Straughn
20-04-2006, 11:01
Alright alright, serious post.

Like I read somewhere that about people who are born with XY chromosomes, but because of some endogenous inability to respond to testosterone, they end up with female bodies. But they are sterile. Appears that the uterus is an environment awash with potent female hormones.

One can argue that the defacto body form for human is female. Add snaps and snails and puppy dog tails (with a dash of testosterone) and we get a male. A malefactor.This comes up a few times a year here, actually.
Reminds me of something The UN abassadorship was saying about Cheney.

There, intellectual-like. Can I post some random ramblings now?Hahaha, you're stuck here.

What were you saying about shame? Isn't this somewhere near self-criticism? ;)
Keiretsu
20-04-2006, 11:27
What about the clams?!? Who mourns for the clams?!? How could they not know that the clams would suffer?!?
*falls to knees, sobbing lightly*

The spirits of dead clams are the cause of all unhappiness in the world. Just ask L Ron Hubbard. Wow, why must I always make fun of Scientology? I always considered myself fairly magnanimous... but they're oyster souls... loaded onto airplanes... that fly through space...
Ah well.
Straughn
20-04-2006, 11:32
The spirits of dead clams are the cause of all unhappiness in the world. Just ask L Ron Hubbard. Wow, why must I always make fun of Scientology? I always considered myself fairly magnanimous... but they're oyster souls... loaded onto airplanes... that fly through space...
Ah well.
Gotta find balance somewhere, i guess. Perhaps i should lament the clam no longer, and accept it as the tao of things. *sniff*
Arionodor
20-04-2006, 11:35
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL:p :p :p :p