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Here's the deal:
Currently I'm in business college and in a few years I'll be opening up a Luxury Mens Wear Boutique. Since I started in college I've changed my style to fit my future plans (I always wear suits and such) but lately I've been looking down on others who wear less expensive clothes and talk down to them. I've become very arrogant too.

Believe me I've never been like this before. I just cant help it.

Believe me I've never been like this before. I just cant help it.
I'd very much try if I were you, because otherwise you're going to be disliked by a lot of people, and made to look stupid by intellegent people who are simply 'dressed down' and take offence at your arrogance.

Also, what happens if a super-rich guy comes into your shop in casual clothes, and you treat him badly?

I'd very much try if I were you, because otherwise you're going to be disliked by a lot of people, and made to look stupid by intellegent people who are simply 'dressed down' and take offence at your arrogance.

Also, what happens if a super-rich guy comes into your shop in casual clothes, and you treat him badly?
Indeed that's my problem. Anyone wear everything these days. I'm not particularly wealthy yet I look like a million dollars (see there's my arrogance again).

This thread just amuses me :fluffle:

This thread just amuses me :fluffle:
Well at least someone is happy.

We are always happy.

Anyway, some actual advice, it's natural to look down on people who are not as well off as you. It is in human nature.

However, nature is what we try to overcome, fight the tendency:sniper: and try to be friendly.

fight the tendency:sniper: and try to be friendly.
I am. I should say I'm not like that all the time. Sometimes it just slips out of my mouth.

On the other hand I compliment those in nice clothes.

Just remember

having 'class' does NOT equate with having loads of money.

I've met folks who are completely BROKE who had more true class than the local millionaire.

Just remember

having 'class' does NOT equate with having loads of money.

I've met folks who are completely BROKE who had more true class than the local millionaire.
Could you define "class" please?

Here's the deal:
Currently I'm in business college and in a few years I'll be opening up a Luxury Mens Wear Boutique. Since I started in college I've changed my style to fit my future plans (I always wear suits and such) but lately I've been looking down on others who wear less expensive clothes and talk down to them. I've become very arrogant too.

Believe me I've never been like this before. I just cant help it.
Yes you can.

Hehhahahha

What a question, you should have asked am I a wanker!

Have you ever thought that maybe you look ridiculous? A very fine-quality casual shirt is always right for any occassion but suits, I would think not. Class in my opinion comes with respect, appreciation, loyalty and kindness as well as well-kept higiene and clean appropriate clothes.

Either learn not to judge people on apperances or stop wearing suits unless you know you're going to meet someone who could help you with setting up your business and you need to make a good first impression. Else wear smart casual clothes to quench your thirst to wear smart items of clothing.

Judging people solely on appearances will not do your business interests any good in the long run. Think of it that way.

Just remember

having 'class' does NOT equate with having loads of money.

I've met folks who are completely BROKE who had more true class than the local millionaire.
Well said

Class is a bogus piece of shit thinking anyway. So to be better you have to have more money, or look like you have more money?

By all means call it snobery to look down on people that do not dress in nice cloths(a purley subjective piece of shit thinking also) but I will call it as I will call it as I always have, wankerism.

These are the lessons that we learn in school, to look down upon those who are weaker, poorer, less educated, look differant, don't follow the herd mentality

Now hands up all those who agree that these life lessons should be carried through into adulthood? And hands up all of those weaker, poorer, less educated, differant looking, free thinking, backbone of society, leaders of mankind instead of sheep that disagree?

Please feel free to not change your ways, continue to be a wanker and judge people on not only general appeance, but by the fuckin cloths they wear? What are you mad, do you really not see what a crook of shit this type of thinking is?

I'm actualy astounded, you... you look down on people based soley on the cloths that thay wear, and then come here and ask am I turning into a snob?

Unfuckinbeliveable!

I dont understand why u are so arrogant? Running a boutiqué is hardly a justification, to put it kindly. And most people can buy expensive clothes if they want. Are u an immigrant from 3rd world country?

try not being so goddamn superficial. at the end of the day, clothes only cover up the human body, keep it warm and dry, prevent me from getting arrested for indecent exposure...:headbang:

they do not make a person interesting or nice to have a conversation with...

now repeat after me:

i will pull my head out of my own superficial arse and stop being a snob.:mp5:

Strobovia, i do believe by the general consensus of the threads that a decision has been arrived upon. Yes, you are a snob. Yes, everyone will hate you. No, you will not become a good buisinessman with this attitude. not even Donald Trump treats people this badly.

Maybe you should read this article
here is the title "CEOs say how you treat a waiter can predict a lot about character"
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2006-04-14-ceos-waiter-rule_x.htm

Here is a quote from Raytheon CEO Bill Swanson

"Watch out for people who have a situational value system, who can turn the charm on and off depending on the status of the person they are interacting with," Swanson writes. "Be especially wary of those who are rude to people perceived to be in subordinate roles."

actually now that i look at the bigger picture, even the upper class wealthy think you are pretty useless as a snob.

so in closing i think you need to pull your head out of "that dark place" and start acting like a normal human being. you will not get anywhere in buisiness if you are a snob and do not know what Customer Service is about.

Remember! that under-dressed person who is wearing sloppy sweats, that you just passed on the street and treated badly, is the CEO who might be coming into your store later. and guess what happens when he recognizes you from earlier. you DID NOT just lose ONE customer... bad news travels fast.

I think what you have to remember too is that not everyone who wears less expensive looking clothes is poor. Plenty of celebrities who have a hell of a lot more money than you walk around in ratty jeans and t-shirts. Unless people are really trying to impress someone, they usually buy clothes they are comfortable in, clothes in a style they like.

When i was last in New York for example i bought a pair of jeans at the GAP for 30 bucks. I'm certainly not rich, but i had plenty of money to buy jeans more expensive than that, i just liked the GAP jeans. They are my favorite pair. I would rather wear jeans because they make me feel good and they are comfortable, not because i'm poor.

Another thing is that depending on where you shop, you can buy casual clothes that are just as expensive as any suit. If you see someone wearing jeans or something, don't just assume that they didn't pay a lot for them.

Well, I listen almost exclusively to classical music and dismiss mainstream politics as mere corporate mind control while drinking novelty coffees (homemade, but still). I suggest reading some anarchist/socialist books or something on our insignificance in the grand scheme of things to deflate your ego.

may I ask is a Botiquie the same as a good quailty tailors , and will you be selling Tweed and cravats

Omg!

Guppie!

Omg!

Guppie!

http://aquanic.org/images/photos/ill-in/new/guppie.jpg

Ok ok I'm a snob and a wanker sorry! I promise I'll behave!

Rhursbourg: No it's just a more exclusive version of a shop. And yes we'll be selling cravats and such.

Ny Nordland: No I am NOT an immigrant!

And to those of you who said something about wearing what you feel is comfortable, then that's what I'm doing. In my opinion nóthing is more comfortable than a nice suit. I'm being told by many that it look good to me which might be the root of my arrogance.

Ok ok I'm a snob and a wanker sorry! I promise I'll behave!

Rhursbourg: No it's just a more exclusive version of a shop. And yes we'll be selling cravats and such.

Ny Nordland: No I am NOT an immigrant!

And to those of you who said something about wearing what you feel is comfortable, then that's what I'm doing. In my opinion nóthing is more comfortable than a nice suit. I'm being told by many that it look good to me which might be the root of my arrogance.

and clothes dont maketh the man, ive seen some very well dressed idiots in my time, you cant hide no matter what you wear

and clothes dont maketh the man, ive seen some very well dressed idiots in my time, you cant hide no matter what you wear
Do you think I'm hiding? Why would I stand out in the crowd like that if I was trying to hide?

Here's the deal:
Currently I'm in business college and in a few years I'll be opening up a Luxury Mens Wear Boutique. Since I started in college I've changed my style to fit my future plans (I always wear suits and such) but lately I've been looking down on others who wear less expensive clothes and talk down to them. I've become very arrogant too.

Believe me I've never been like this before. I just cant help it.

Pride comes before a fall.

Don't worry, after your 'business' reveals itself to be a miserable failure you'll become a much nicer person.

Could you define "class" please?

I'll try. (not a dictionary def, btw)

It is true manners, style, and ettiquette. (not necessarily the by-the-book rot., but the ability to have those around you be comfortable in the circumstances, and not think of you as a prat. By no means the old victorian pettines. - one MUST wear white after an abirtrary day, one is a social outcast if one can't., blah.....

I think one of the ways to give an example is this old story...

A queen had some guests who were, as we say, less than trained in social customs of the country they were visiting. One of the guests used the fingerbowl as a drinking cup, and instead of the queen gasping in shock and horror, she calmly took a big quaft of the fingerbowl herself to NOT embarrass her guests. Now thats class.

Here's the deal:
Currently I'm in business college and in a few years I'll be opening up a Luxury Mens Wear Boutique. Since I started in college I've changed my style to fit my future plans (I always wear suits and such) but lately I've been looking down on others who wear less expensive clothes and talk down to them. I've become very arrogant too.

Believe me I've never been like this before. I just cant help it.

Hah, you sound like me.

When you get feel the condesention coming through your voice, just tone it down. I was the same exact way through my teenage years and finally it clicked that I was acting like an arrogant, Italian, arse. I'm still arrogant, and I'm still Italian but I don't let it affect how I treat other people. You just have to control it, because your feelings aren't going to change.

Could you define "class" please?

Classy:
1. prestigious
2. high quality
3. elegant or stylish

However, classy is both attitude and appearance. Think, Cary Grant.

Here's the deal:
Currently I'm in business college and in a few years I'll be opening up a Luxury Mens Wear Boutique. Since I started in college I've changed my style to fit my future plans (I always wear suits and such) but lately I've been looking down on others who wear less expensive clothes and talk down to them. I've become very arrogant too.

Believe me I've never been like this before. I just cant help it.
yes you are becoming a snob.

it makes no sense to judge people by the clothes they wear than it makes sense to judge them by any other irrelevant factor.-- car, home, haircolor, size, ethnicity, whatever.

should you find yourself able to start this boutique, it also makes no sense to limit your customer base to those who dont mind being condescended to.