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Not counting Latin, of course. No offence to anyone, but French is strange, confusing, and somewhat prissy, Spanish feels annoying because it's fast-paced, and Italian makes it seem like the Italians based their official language on what they pulled out of the mystery box.

Although, I quite like Romanian >_>

I hate Latin, basically because I had to waste 5 years of my life to learn it. All the other languages are fine by me.

Germanic languages all the way. Clear, concise, logical, down-to-earth.

Rome fell because of all the latin. Imagine if they had spoken Deutsch! Roman Empire, but speaking German? Actually, I think we already had something like that. But you know what I mean.

Not counting Latin, of course. No offence to anyone, but French is strange, confusing, and somewhat prissy, Spanish feels annoying because it's fast-paced, and Italian makes it seem like the Italians based their official language on what they pulled out of the mystery box.

Although, I quite like Romanian >_>
I mostly just hate all the gneder agreement. Although most languages seem to have that.

I mostly just hate all the gneder agreement. Although most languages seem to have that.

The gender assignment could be practical, but yeah, it's stupid how they give genders to objects.

Germanic languages all the way. Clear, concise, logical, down-to-earth.

Rome fell because of all the latin. Imagine if they had spoken Deutsch! Roman Empire, but speaking German? Actually, I think we already had something like that. But you know what I mean.

Yeah, I do think Germanic languages are generally nicer. Slavic is quite nice too.

And Rome fell because they got lazy. >_>

I mostly just hate all the gneder agreement. Although most languages seem to have that.

Try Finnish, they don't even have he and she in that, although they put things that are happening to words on the end of the nouns (much like Greek), which makes some astonishingly long words.

The gender assignment could be practical, but yeah, it's stupid how they give genders to objects.
How does someone come up with something like that?

Yeah, I do think Germanic languages are generally nicer. Slavic is quite nice too.

And Rome fell because they got lazy. >_>

...and Latin promotes laziness. Take me, for example: I couldn't be arsed to finish my first year of Latin in high school. See!

The gender assignment could be practical, but yeah, it's stupid how they give genders to objects.

Germanic languages are worse at that, generally. Romanic languages only bother with two genders, Germanic languages include three.

Personally I really don't find Spanish to be that annoying - I'm not even fluent in it and yet I find it easier to use than English! (this is pretty bad seeing as I'm from England :p)

If anything, it's structure is very simple (except for the subjunctive, which is just plain scary) and is easily understood with the use of logic - even its irregular verbs are usually logical (which is more than anyone can say about English irregulars!).

Plus my friend, who studies both Spanish and German, regards her Spanish lessons to be a kind of sanctuary after the mind-boggling complexity of her German classes.

Sorry, I guess I'm a bit of a Spanish fangirl... :D

Try Finnish, they don't even have he and she in that, although they put things that are happening to words on the end of the nouns (much like Greek), which makes some astonishingly long words.
WTF that sounds worse!


Could you give us an example? in English plz.

french lessons = shoot me now (all i can remeber is oui and je m'appel if its even splely like that)

german lessons = o ja, das ist super (except for the teachers but you cant in them all)

Not counting Latin, of course. No offence to anyone, but French is strange, confusing, and somewhat prissy, Spanish feels annoying because it's fast-paced, and Italian makes it seem like the Italians based their official language on what they pulled out of the mystery box.

Although, I quite like Romanian >_>

You do know that english is Latin based right? You can tell because we use the latin alphabet.

I was forced to learn german in highschool because I was on the science track. I've even got an o'level in it. Saying that, I don't know a fucking (flicken?) word of it.

Ja, das ist moglich. Mann Kann das deutch studieren aber erlernen nicht. USW.

Edit: vile language.

WTF that sounds worse!


Could you give us an example? in English plz.

Hmm... ok...

epäjärjestelmällisyys - basic form
epäjärjestelmällistyttää - to make something unmethodical(ness)
epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyys - umm... lack of making something unmethodical(ness)
epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellään - umm... with someone's lack of making something unmethodical(ness)...

That's a particularly ridiculous example. But it proves the point.

I was forced to learn german in highschool because I was on the science track. I've even got an o'level in it. Saying that, I don't know a fucking (flicken?) word of it.

Ja, das ist moglich. Mann Kann das deutch studieren aber erlernen nicht. USW.

Deutsch ist fantastisch!

Ich lerne er sehr gern, weil er interessant ist!

Hurrah for rubbish GCSE German!

(and sorry if I've double posted)

actually, at it's core, English is germanic.

it's had fairly heavy latin influences [mostly by way of french, but not entirely] but it's still a germanic language even now. you'd be amazed how meny german words make sence when you read them, even if you only know english.

of course, there are the ones that look like a whole load of random letters... hehe.

and... almost every european language uses the latin alphabet [or a slightly tweeked version there of] and the arabic numerals.

the really funny thing about english is it's tendancy to grab random things out of other languages though. i mean, come on, it starts off as a german/latin-french hybrid, then just keeps adding random bits of other languages to it, and spontaniously mutateing as well....

my spelling sucks. deal with it :p

the really funny thing about english is it's tendancy to grab random things out of other languages though. i mean, come on, it starts off as a german/latin-french hybrid, then just keeps adding random bits of other languages to it, and spontaniously mutateing as well....

my spelling sucks. deal with it :p

Actually, that's not unique to the English language. All European langues did that in the past and are still doing it. French is a mixture of Latin and Gallic languages, Spanish is a mixture of Latin and Iberiean languages, German is a mixture of Germanic languages, Latin and Slavic languages.... languages don't grow in isolation, as the nationalistic concepts of the 19th and 20th centuries would have you think, they move around, they change, they adapt, they merge and they grow. Very dynamic.

Deutsch ist fantastisch!

Ich lerne er sehr gern, weil er interessant ist!

Hurrah for rubbish GCSE German!

(and sorry if I've double posted)

no it isn't. i spent far too much time in a classroom learning something that i've never, ever, used.

Germanic languages all the way. Clear, concise, logical, down-to-earth.

Rome fell because of all the latin. Imagine if they had spoken Deutsch! Roman Empire, but speaking German? Actually, I think we already had something like that. But you know what I mean.*nods* I think the leader even managed to drown himself by accident. Which is ironic how the Nazi operation named after him did really well at first, but then failed out of its own stupidity from central command. He wasn't even as bright as Henry VIII. Facing trouble with the Catholic Church? Barbarossa is boring and just appoints Holy Roman Pope. Henry VIII on the other hand creates a separate Church and puts himself at the head. It's not likely he's going to start disagreeing with himself anytime soon.

no it isn't. i spent far too much time in a classroom learning something that i've never, ever, used.

On the other hand, I'm doing it at A-level and then hopefully at Uni, along with History, and I want to work in the European Parliament.

So it probably will get used.

Actually, that's not unique to the English language. All European langues did that in the past and are still doing it. French is a mixture of Latin and Gallic languages, Spanish is a mixture of Latin and Iberiean languages, German is a mixture of Germanic languages, Latin and Slavic languages.... languages don't grow in isolation, as the nationalistic concepts of the 19th and 20th centuries would have you think, they move around, they change, they adapt, they merge and they grow. Very dynamic.


ehh, i just ment it does it a LOT, and keeps right on doing it.

faster than most too. french is sort of... stagnateing, a bit.. or it should be. . . why the heck do they have a government department in charge of their language? seriously...

You do know that english is Latin based right? You can tell because we use the latin alphabet.

But it's a Germanic language. Like someone said before, I can understand half of the German I read without having learnt it.

Besides, everybody uses the Latin alphabet, almost.

Germanic languages are worse at that, generally. Romanic languages only bother with two genders, Germanic languages include three.

Yeah, but the gender thing would work if it was more sensible. Male for male things, female for female things, neuter for objects. It's just the facts that objects are often classified as male or female that's stupid.

Does anyone else find the Latin based languages annoying?
What?
You mean, like, ENGLISH? :headbang:
(Yes, I know it's made of other languages too, shut up)

Boo German, yay Latin. Latin may be the biggest pain in the ass in the world to learn, but I think it sounds a lot nicer. Germanic and Slavic languages sound naturally angry.

Boo German, yay Latin. Latin may be the biggest pain in the ass in the world to learn, but I think it sounds a lot nicer. Germanic and Slavic languages sound naturally angry.


you know, as opposed to english, which either sounds lazy, snooty, or idiotic, depending on which accent you're dealing with. hehe.

well, except the NZ accent,.... it's just rediculously fast.. though it may still manage to sound lazy, i don't know.

the latin based langauges, incidently, are "romantic" languages.. english isn't in that list. i belive it's french, spanish, italian, porteguies[sp] .. i think that's it, though i may have missed one.

heh.. romantic is to rome what asiatic is to asia [modern non-formal english would use asian even where asiatic is apropriate i think..]

i had a point, i swear.. i just... forget.. what ... it...was... Snap.

edit: i remembered what it was! yay!: does English sound angery? it's technicly a germanic language.

While German might be related to English, I can't make heads or tails of it - it just doesn't make any sense, and it sounds terrible to boot. French on the other hand - makes perfect sense (to me, anyway), sounds great, and half the words are used in English anyway.

No contest. Make mine French, baby. Save the German for Bond Villains and WWII re-enactments.

edit: i remembered what it was! yay!: does English sound angery? it's technicly a germanic language.

It depends. It can be extremely aggressive, it depends a lot on the dialect. Windsor English isn't, Glasgow English is.

But it doesn't sound as angry as German in most places, no.

you know, as opposed to english, which either sounds lazy, snooty, or idiotic, depending on which accent you're dealing with. hehe.

well, except the NZ accent,.... it's just rediculously fast.. though it may still manage to sound lazy, i don't know.

the latin based langauges, incidently, are "romantic" languages.. english isn't in that list. i belive it's french, spanish, italian, porteguies[sp] .. i think that's it, though i may have missed one.

heh.. romantic is to rome what asiatic is to asia [modern non-formal english would use asian even where asiatic is apropriate i think..]

i had a point, i swear.. i just... forget.. what ... it...was... Snap.

edit: i remembered what it was! yay!: does English sound angery? it's technicly a germanic language.

French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, and Romanian.

And English, because it's so derivative, doesn't sound as angery as German, but it still sounds less pleasant than the Romance languages.

So, basically, the OP argument is that latin is dumb because it puts sex on objects?

Geez! Someone had nothing to do this morning!

I could say that germanic languages are stupid because they sound angry even when they're not. They hurt my jaw because I'm used the the free-flowing form of latin which flow easily from the tongue.

Hell, I could say that english is stupid for his bastardization and borrowing form other languages. It's not like you have a word for entrepeneur!

Or, you know, we could agree that at least we have some form of communication that help us express our ideas. No matter what language you use. We should all use esperanto anyways.

Why don't we just use the language spoken by most people in the world? Then less people will have to learn a new language.

Let's all learn Mandarin Chinese!

So, basically, the OP argument is that latin is dumb because it puts sex on objects?

If you're familiar with Kievan-Prussia's normal fare, his real argument is that Latin is dumb because it's not German.

So, basically, the OP argument is that latin is dumb because it puts sex on objects?

Geez! Someone had nothing to do this morning!

I could say that germanic languages are stupid because they sound angry even when they're not. They hurt my jaw because I'm used the the free-flowing form of latin which flow easily from the tongue.

Hell, I could say that english is stupid for his bastardization and borrowing form other languages. It's not like you have a word for entrepeneur!

Or, you know, we could agree that at least we have some form of communication that help us express our ideas. No matter what language you use. We should all use esperanto anyways.


or Angerman... NOONE knows how to speak that.. ['cept me. and one other person. that's it.]

you know, if you Were going to chose a single, currently existing and used language for the whole world, it's a toss up between mandirin and english.

english is spoken more places, mandarin by more people... i think that's how it goes, at least.

i'm just commenting on random things, incidently, not really argueing one point or another, but finding amusement in it none the less.

and, i certainly have too much time on my hands.. hehe. but, i have no clue about the OP.. *le shrugity*

or Angerman... NOONE knows how to speak that.. ['cept me. and one other person. that's it.]

you know, if you Were going to chose a single, currently existing and used language for the whole world, it's a toss up between mandirin and english.

english is spoken more places, mandarin by more people... i think that's how it goes, at least.

i'm just commenting on random things, incidently, not really argueing one point or another, but finding amusement in it none the less.

and, i certainly have too much time on my hands.. hehe. but, i have no clue about the OP.. *le shrugity*
ah but esperanto was designed to be a universal language. Mandarin and english are not.

If you're familiar with Kievan-Prussia's normal fare, his real argument is that Latin is dumb because it's not German.
I am. Doesn't mean I cannot comment on his modus operandi (that's latin for you, KP). The best way for evil to win is for good people to do nothing.

ah but esperanto was designed to be a universal language. Mandarin and english are not.

.. you know, i can never quite tell if english is "trying" to be universal, or universaly unuseable. hehe.

ah but esperanto was designed to be a universal language. Mandarin and english are not.


Chinese would, however, be a perfect writing system. No matter what language you speak, Chinese script will mean the same thing. Once you understand Chinese script, you can write to another person with it, even if you do not know the spoken language.

I am. Doesn't mean I cannot comment on his modus operandi (that's latin for you, KP). The best way for evil to win is for good people to do nothing.

I know. You asked, "So, basically, the OP argument is that latin is dumb because it puts sex on objects?" I'm saying it's not. Just responding. :)

I know. You asked, "So, basically, the OP argument is that latin is dumb because it puts sex on objects?" I'm saying it's not. Just responding. :)

Anything with sex on it is good.

Chinese would, however, be a perfect writing system. No matter what language you speak, Chinese script will mean the same thing. Once you understand Chinese script, you can write to another person with it, even if you do not know the spoken language.


on the other hand, you have to learn a seperate charicter [or is it two? or three?] for EVERY SINGLE WORD.

the languages that use latin script have an advantage there, in that with only 26 [give or take, depending.] charicters you can make Any word, includeing ones no one has thought of prior to that point in time.

though, it does require at least some understanding of how the language is spoken.. which is worse/better, i wonder?

Does anyone else find the Latin based languages annoying?
What?
You mean, like, ENGLISH? :headbang:
(Yes, I know it's made of other languages too, shut up)

English is GERMANIC, with Latin elements.

If you're familiar with Kievan-Prussia's normal fare, his real argument is that Latin is dumb because it's not German.

I love Latin. I just find that the Romance language derived from it are... well, annoying.

on the other hand, you have to learn a seperate charicter [or is it two? or three?] for EVERY SINGLE WORD.

the languages that use latin script have an advantage there, in that with only 26 [give or take, depending.] charicters you can make Any word, includeing ones no one has thought of prior to that point in time.

though, it does require at least some understanding of how the language is spoken.. which is worse/better, i wonder?

Chinese, IMO, isn't so good for teaching phonetics and such. I mean, if you see a character you don't know, well, you're fucked. In English, you just learn 26 characters, and you can sound out words you can't spell.

the problem with france is that it's full of frenchmen.. which leads to the problem with the french language. [incidently, that's frenchmen colectivly, not multipul individuals] french annoys me.

i really can't comment on the others.

Chinese would, however, be a perfect writing system. No matter what language you speak, Chinese script will mean the same thing. Once you understand Chinese script, you can write to another person with it, even if you do not know the spoken language.

Which Mandarin - the modern simplified and designed by the Commies or the archaic one used by the Chinese Emperors? :D

Which Mandarin - the modern simplified and designed by the Commies or the archaic one used by the Chinese Emperors? :D

Either, really. Both apply.

Either, really. Both apply.

I don't think the Chinese character system is very good. I get the feeling that when the first met people with Latin-like alphabets, they said "Damn, I wish we'd thought of that."

I know. You asked, "So, basically, the OP argument is that latin is dumb because it puts sex on objects?" I'm saying it's not. Just responding. :)
Well, I must be dumber than french! I totally got pwned! on that one. :p

Either, really. Both apply.

Well, the Chinese written language wasn't really designed for the ordinary person to use. The Chinese Emperors kepts the peasant illiterate on purpose and keeping the Chinese Bureaucracy powerful.

Yes, the modern Mandarin is much easier to learn but it's still a huge alphabet. The official language of China is Mandarin, but the business language is Cantonese.

Well, the Chinese written language wasn't really designed for the ordinary person to use. The Chinese Emperors kepts the peasant illiterate on purpose and keeping the Chinese Bureaucracy powerful.

Yes, the modern Mandarin is much easier to learn but it's still a huge alphabet. The official language of China is Mandarin, but the business language is Cantonese.

Mmm, I think I read that the Pinyin Romanisation is taught to Chinese schoolchildren to help them learn phonetics or something.

Not counting Latin, of course. No offence to anyone, but French is strange, confusing, and somewhat prissy, Spanish feels annoying because it's fast-paced, and Italian makes it seem like the Italians based their official language on what they pulled out of the mystery box.

How xenophobic of you.

English is kind of annoying, being the hardest language to learn and all.

English is kind of annoying, being the hardest language to learn and all.


actually, that's debatable.

at least, it's not the hardest in any one area. over all, i forget.

certianly the number of different accents and "dialects" result in anyone learning english speaking either american [gah!] or very formaly.

English is kind of annoying, being the hardest language to learn and all.

*spews Coke out nose* Spanish is a lot harder than English! I thinks they have 50 different verb conjugations. And German has 3 genders, and various other hard stuff that English lacks. English is easy.

Doesn't Finnish have like a million cases?

said it befor, say it again:

English is Germanic.
it does have a heavy latin influence, mostly [though not entirely] by way of french, but it is germanic none the less. and most [not all, but most] of the .. "corruption" such as it is, of the language appears to have hit the latin part rather than the german, but that could just be me.

Doesn't Finnish have like a million cases?
No, but I believe it has the most of any language.
Does anybody else find the Latin based languages annoying?
No.

No, but I believe it has the most of any language.

No.


^^^ that "no" there is slightly in error.. seeing as how at least i noted somewhere along the way that at least one of them anoyed me, and he asked if "anyone" found them anoying. so the awnser is actually "yes, but not meny and not me" .. from your point of view...

just thought you might like to know.

^^^ that "no" there is slightly in error.. seeing as how at least i noted somewhere along the way that at least one of them anoyed me, and he asked if "anyone" found them anoying. so the awnser is actually "yes, but not meny and not me" .. from your point of view...

just thought you might like to know.
When I want you to tell me my point of view in the future, I'll ask.

"Does anybody else find the Latin based languages annoying?" could easily be interpreted as "Do you find Romance languages annoying?" Not to mention, KP asked in the thread title "anybody else" and not "anyone". Which means, that he already let us know that at least one individual - himself - thinks that Romance languages are annoying before we even begin to read the thread.

Just thought you might like to know.

Chinese, IMO, isn't so good for teaching phonetics and such. I mean, if you see a character you don't know, well, you're fucked. In English, you just learn 26 characters, and you can sound out words you can't spell.
Most ideograms in Chinese are combinations of other simpler ideograms. So, if you come across one you don't know, you just break it down into its separate components to derive its meaning.

On the other hand, you can always just write in pinyin and forget the ideograms.

When I want you to tell me my point of view in the future, I'll ask.

"Does anybody else find the Latin based languages annoying?" could easily be interpreted as "Do you find Romance languages annoying?" Not to mention, KP asked in the thread title "anybody else" and not "anyone". Which means, that he already let us know that at least one individual - himself - thinks that Romance languages are annoying before we even begin to read the thread.

Just thought you might like to know.

... i didn't mean your point of view as in your opinion, so much as that would say what you were trying for and be accurate as well.
besides which, what i said there Was what you ment, was it not?

and it could be interpreted as that.. it could even have been ment to say that. but it is not what it said.

heh.. at any rate, if we assume that "anybody else" is excludeing only himself, and at the time i would take that to be true, it certainly didn't include me, i would still be someone else even then, still makeing a catagorical "no" untrue.


i do know what you ment, i'm fairly sure everyone did. in fact, if you didn't complaine about me being picky about it.. this post wouldn't exist..

.. i'm just something of a perfectionist, and it shows up more strongly when i am board.

so try not to rant too much when/if you respond to this. clamness helps... being able to laugh helps more.

How does someone come up with something like that?
Things have names, and a gender is simply assigned by their termination (-o, for male, -a for female, and a few more rules) or just by common use. It's pretty arbitrary actually, whether an object will be male or female, but since Spanish pretty much eliminated its neutral gender it's now required.

Try Finnish, they don't even have he and she in that, although they put things that are happening to words on the end of the nouns (much like Greek), which makes some astonishingly long words.
Makes dating fun though!
I had a spell in Finland some years ago. Amazing how they get by using the same word for so many things…Hello Moi Goodbye..Moi moi. There is a variation of this of course whereby one can say Hei for hello and Hei hei for goodbye. Miss a word and you won't know if they're coming or going. Give me Latin any day (or German come to that)

I'm just something of a perfectionist, and it shows up more strongly when I am bored.
Are you really a perfectionist? (http://www.informationhigh.net/upload_files/grammarnazi.jpg)
I certainly hope that you're one to laugh.
I had a spell in Finland some years ago.
I'm having a spell in Finland right now. Only thing is, I don't have to care about Finnish all that much!

Things have names, and a gender is simply assigned by their termination (-o, for male, -a for female, and a few more rules) or just by common use. It's pretty arbitrary actually, whether an object will be male or female, but since Spanish pretty much eliminated its neutral gender it's now required.

That's one way that Spanish is better than German. AFAICT, there's no way to tell the gender of a German noun except memorization.

Makes dating fun though!
I had a spell in Finland some years ago. Amazing how they get by using the same word for so many things…Hello Moi Goodbye..Moi moi. There is a variation of this of course whereby one can say Hei for hello and Hei hei for goodbye. Miss a word and you won't know if they're coming or going. Give me Latin any day (or German come to that)
Aha! But you say MOOi! for hello and just moimoi for goodbuy. A huge difference :D

Are you really a perfectionist? (http://www.informationhigh.net/upload_files/grammarnazi.jpg)
I certainly hope that you're one to laugh.

I'm having a spell in Finland right now. Only thing is, I don't have to care about Finnish all that much!


didn't say I was Perfect, just a perfectionist. slightly different. not only that but, to be honest, i gave up on trying to spell anything significant properly a long time ago. spelling is one of my more noticeable weaknesses.

as for the whole i/I thing... ehh, i just keep forgetting to hit the shift key.
generaly I try for good gramer. I don't always succead, but I try.

It gets just a little bit harder at quater to three in the morning, however.

humm.. on further thought, calling myself a perfectionist is over simplifying things somewhat. but i really would have to start a new thread to explaine that proerply, and, as i said, it's early morning. i can't be bothered..

it does however strike me, that you seem rather bitter, or at least decididly anti, about something. any particular reason why you've decided to vent that on me?

... i guess I need to start useing the typical persudo html code to indicate when what i am saying is ment to be a light hearted almost-joke rather than a serious jab at some one.


ehhh.. far too meny people take themselves far too seriously. i try not to be one of them. I Generaly succead, but not always...

incidently, is there really a lot more that can be said on weither or not the romantic [romance? i think it's romantic, really] languages are annoying?

it does however strike me, that you seem rather bitter, or at least decididly anti, about something. any particular reason why you've decided to vent that on me?
I'm sorry I've come off that way, however, I don't appreciate it when people tell me what I think, even if it is the truth. That would be the "bitterness" your refering to, and the "decididly anti, about something" would be me not letting anyone tell me my point of view.

I do not believe I'm usually this - eh - negative. I'm just reviewing for my exam on Saturday and posting in three threads here.
incidently, is there really a lot more that can be said on weither or not the romantic [romance? i think it's romantic, really] languages are annoying?
The word is Romance when referring to the subject at hand. French is a Romance language and also is often called a "romantic" language. I don't neccessarily agree with the "romantic" bit of it.

I'm sorry I've come off that way, however, I don't appreciate it when people tell me what I think, even if it is the truth. That would be the "bitterness" your refering to, and the "decididly anti, about something" would be me not letting anyone tell me my point of view.

I do not believe I'm usually this - eh - negative. I'm just reviewing for my exam on Saturday and posting in three threads here.

The word is Romance when referring to the subject at hand. French is a Romance language and also is often called a "romantic" language. I don't neccessarily agree with the "romantic" bit of it.


ehh, the telling you your opinion bit was probibly mostly bad wording on my part, really.

anyway.. the "romance" or "romantic" bit refers to the fact that it has it's origons in rome, not to .. well, the other kind of romance [deffinitions are escapeing me at this point]

so, yeah.. i'd agree with you if you mean what i think you mean..

i would clarify that, but it would proilby send us round the same track we just got done with.

i would clarify that, but it would proilby send us round the same track we just got done with.
Nah, probably not.
Here is the definition of "Romance (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Romance)". I'm looking at the number seven of the noun and the adjective definitions in particular.
Here is the defition of "romantic (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Romantic)". Heh, it would be interesting if we took defintion number five in this case.

humm, looks like i was slightly off with reguards to which form i was after.

though that does explane why the novel is "the Romance of the Three Kingdoms" .. when there is little or no romance [different deffinition, yay] actually in it.

heh.. useing the fifth[sp] deffinition would indeed skew the entire conversation something awful ..hehe.

heh.. useing the fifth[sp] deffinition would indeed skew the entire conversation something awful ..hehe.
:p

Well, I never liked the gender systems found in both German and Latin (and most of their relatives) and I loathe the way the Geman word for "little girl" is neuter (talk about ageism AND sexism, no wonder Asuka from Neon Genesis Evangelion was so worried about being thought a doll). In terms of sound, though, the Romance languages win easily as German is among the most grotesque-sounding languages in Europe and even through out the world, it has few real competitors.

Finnish and Japanese both sound nice, but Finnish has a really complex grammar, I hear (15 cases in comparison to Latin's 6, IIRC). Japanese has an insane writing system, though. If they hate China so much, why don't they just ditch the kanji, anyway? I like some forms of Chinese, as well, though they obviously suffer from the same writing problem as Japanese.

Finnish and Japanese both sound nice, but Finnish has a really complex grammar, I hear (15 cases in comparison to Latin's 6, IIRC).
I almost certain its sixteen cases for the Finnish. :D

No. My first language was Italian, my third French and I speak a little Spanish. In fact, I prefer Latin based (aka Romance languages) over the Arabic or Germanic languages.

Not counting Latin, of course. No offence to anyone, but French is strange, confusing, and somewhat prissy, Spanish feels annoying because it's fast-paced, and Italian makes it seem like the Italians based their official language on what they pulled out of the mystery box.>_>

II've been told that for plenty of reasons, English ( and its subset, North American) is one of the hardest languages to learn.

The romance languages had their internal rules tweaked for better usage. Even if I do think it is silly to have gender for objects like tables, etc...

English, however, has silent letters, left-over letters that are no longer pronounced but at one time was, sound-alike words, etc.

for example, 'cleave' means to break apart AND to hold together. Exact opposite there, guys.
and what about two, too and to?

I find Spanish hard. They gave genders to inanimate objects and you have to make the other words agree with it. It's hard as hell, especially when a directly translated sentence sounds like: No I like female-the female-objects female-reds. I had a hard time remembering which number means twenty and which means thirty. Plus, I can't remember how to make an enye(n with ~ above it) with a keyboard or how to get those wierd `s above letters.

I find Spanish hard. They gave genders to inanimate objects and you have to make the other words agree with it. It's hard as hell, especially when a directly translated sentence sounds like: No I like female-the female-objects female-reds. I had a hard time remembering which number means twenty and which means thirty. Plus, I can't remember how to make an enye(n with ~ above it) with a keyboard or how to get those wierd `s above letters.
If you are using Word you can easy change the hotkeys for getting the tilde. For accents its easiest to press Control+[comma key]+the letter, not those silly number combos. Sadly, it doesn't work on NS.

As for the topic, I quite enjoy spanish. The genders aren't really all that hard-just remember the rules (which apply most of the time). The most annoying part of the language are the false cognates, not the speed of the lanugage. Seriously-have you EVER heard an excited english speaking high school girl talk-talk about ridiculously fast!

Russian can give some of the other languages a run for its money. The closeness of the sound of some letters, the cases, the spelling rules, the exceptions to the rules, "free and mobile' stress (as my prof says), the borrowed terms, the antiquated terms, the gender issue, the indeclinable issue, preposistions-its kind of a mess.

Granted, I'm still in my first year of the study of Russian. Perhaps the preposition thing will work itself out. :D The cyrillic letters weren't that hard to adapt to, however.

I find Spanish hard. They gave genders to inanimate objects and you have to make the other words agree with it. It's hard as hell, especially when a directly translated sentence sounds like: No I like female-the female-objects female-reds.
Oh, it's no that hard. -o for male, -a for female, works for almost everything. You'll get the hang of it.

I had a hard time remembering which number means twenty and which means thirty. Plus, I can't remember how to make an enye(n with ~ above it) with a keyboard or how to get those wierd `s above letters.
I had the sample problem with sixty and seventy in English. Not to mention that sixty and sixteen can be a problem too.

Getting the tildes and other symbols (¿¡ñÑáéíóúü) to work in an English keyboard is a bitch. You could add the Spanish key map, but you'll need to switching constantly between them or get a keyboard with more keys. I had to buy an old French keyboard to use at home because it was the only one I could get that has enough keys. And it's actually just two more keys that are needed.

Hawaiian: The death of language.

I almost certain its sixteen cases for the Finnish.

Damn, that's a lot of cases. Surely some of them must be redundant or something.

I think when latin women speak Spanish it's sexy. :)

I'm actually rather fond of French. I'm not distinctly familiar with Spanish or Italian, but if they're much like French, I don't think I would mind them at all. It's German I can't get my head around.

Getting the tildes and other symbols (¿¡ñÑáéíóúü) to work in an English keyboard is a bitch. You could add the Spanish key map, but you'll need to switching constantly between them or get a keyboard with more keys. I had to buy an old French keyboard to use at home because it was the only one I could get that has enough keys. And it's actually just two more keys that are needed.

That always annoyed the hell out of me. I got something of a solution though, I copied all the vowels with fadas(irish for those little diacretic things, áéíóú)in both cases. Whenever I needed one I pasted them all and then took out the ones I didn't need. I was hard to type quickly, but it worked. I'm just grateful I have very little reason to type in Irish.

Not really. I rather enjoy French and Italian (can't speak much Italian anymore though). Never taken Spanish, but I don't think I'd find it particularly annoying.

I'm actually rather fond of French. I'm not distinctly familiar with Spanish or Italian, but if they're much like French, I don't think I would mind them at all. It's German I can't get my head around.
German is a bitch sometimes. I didn't even know there was a pluperfect until I had to learn aboput it in German.

Deutsch macht Spass! Ich leibe Deutsch (aber nicht meine Deutschlehrerin). Ich weiss nicht, warum Leute Spanisch besser als Deutsch findet.
German is fun! I love German (but not my German teacher). I don't know why people like Spanish more than German.

German is the language of scholars. Spanish is the language of illegal immigrants.

German is a bitch sometimes. I didn't even know there was a pluperfect until I had to learn aboput it in German.

I haven't even tried to learn it. I've done a few German ariettas in Singing, and the pronounciation was enough to put me off for good.

I hate Romance languages!

I haven't been exposed to Romanian or Romansch, but all those that I do know I can't stand. Latin and Italian are okay to listen to, but to speak them is horrible! I can't stand all those moods, tenses, and stuff!

I prefer Germanic, Celtic, and Semitic languages, though I've only learned German. They just flow better for me and sound so beautiful. Yes, I think German sounds beautiful and I think French sounds horrible. I'm strange, I know it.

Deutsch macht Spass! Ich leibe Deutsch (aber nicht meine Deutschlehrerin). Ich weiss nicht, warum Leute Spanisch besser als Deutsch findet.
German is fun! I love German (but not my German teacher). I don't know why people like Spanish more than German.

German is the language of scholars. Spanish is the language of illegal immigrants.

Deutsch ist ja in ordnung.

German is the language of war, not of scholars. Latin is surely the language of scholars. Language of illegal immigrants, well that depends where you live. Most of the immigrants here speak Polish, and you here something that might be Russian every now and then. In America it's Spanish though.

I haven't even tried to learn it. I've done a few German ariettas in Singing, and the pronounciation was enough to put me off for good.

That is the good thing about German, almost all of it is pronounced the way it would be in English. The umlauts bugger things up occassionaly, and my accent tends to drop the endings of words, which is not good in German.

German is the language of scholars. Spanish is the language of illegal immigrants.
Don't you know?

"Ärans och hjältarnas språk! Hur ädelt och manlight du rör dig,
ren är som malmens din klang, säker som solens din gång."
- Esaisas Tegnér om svenskan i dikten "Språken"

Free translation:
"Tongue of honor and heros! How nobel and manly you move,
clean like copper is your tone, certain as the sun your stride."
- Esaisas Tegnér on the Swedish language in the peom "Språken"

I recommend looking at Spanish and Latin American history before you go about making ignorant statements like you just did.

French pronunciation leaves me completely stumped. German, however, is far more logical, which is why I opted to take it instead of the former.

German, however, is far more logical, which is why I opted to take it instead of the former.
Meh, German still has dipthongs, which is a big steak of against logic in my opinion. *hates dipthongs*

That is the good thing about German, almost all of it is pronounced the way it would be in English. The umlauts bugger things up occassionaly, and my accent tends to drop the endings of words, which is not good in German.

After over eight years of French in school, German pronounciation boggles me. My singing teacher explained a lot of common letter combinations which I've memorised, but that's the extent of my accent. Anything that doesn't follow one of those rules is Frenchified within my brain.

Oh, it's no that hard. -o for male, -a for female, works for almost everything. You'll get the hang of it.



The gender's not that bad, but the verb conjugations are! In English, you just say "I talk, you talk, he/she talks, we talk, they talk".

In Spanish you have to remember "hablo, hablas, habla, hablamos, hablan". And that's just the present tense. For a regular verb. You also have to know past tense, future tense, and I think a bunch of other tenses as well.

Deutsch macht Spass! Ich leibe Deutsch (aber nicht meine Deutschlehrerin). Ich weiss nicht, warum Leute Spanisch besser als Deutsch findet.

Hmm shouldn't it be "finden", not "findet"?

Es tut mir leid if I'm wrong!

The gender's not that bad, but the verb conjugations are! In English, you just say "I talk, you talk, he/she talks, we talk, they talk".

In Spanish you have to remember "hablo, hablas, habla, hablamos, hablan". And that's just the present tense. For a regular verb. You also have to know past tense, future tense, and I think a bunch of other tenses as well.
Ever think about how the Spanish speakers feel?

"The lack of gender's great, except they got that funky "a" and "an" thing going on. Nobody really knows why. In Spanish, you just say, "hablo, hablas, habla, hablaís, hablamos, hablan".

In English, you have to remember to throw on whole other words! Then they have other tenses, too! There's practically no rules to the common verbs like "be", "go", and "spell" to name a few. Anyhow, you have to remember to say, "I talk, you talk, he/she/it/Mr./Mrs./Dr./Father/et cetera talks, those people I know well talks, we talks, y'all/you guys talks". Its so bloody hard!
*head explodes*"

You do know that english is Latin based right? You can tell because we use the latin alphabet.
Actually english is a germainic language.

If you want a non-annoying language, try Polish.

If you want a non-annoying language, try Polish.
My grandma could speak it, but I never learned anything other than "cookie" and "perogie". That is most likely not actual Polish spelling.
Some neighbors back in the day spoke it too, and while they cooked great, I could never hang with the flow of conversation either.
I tried.

In Spanish you have to remember "hablo, hablas, habla, hablamos, hablan". And that's just the present tense. For a regular verb. You also have to know past tense, future tense, and I think a bunch of other tenses as well.
Yes, from an English speaker point of view that can be hard. Although, from Spanish, learning when to use what auxiliary verb in English is also very hard. But one gets the hang of it with some practice.

Hmm shouldn't it be "finden", not "findet"?

Es tut mir leid if I'm wrong!
Nope, finden is irregular.
ich finde
du findetest
er/sie/es findet
wir finden
ihr findet
sie finden
Sie finden

and it's die Leute

Actually english is a germainic language.

I think at this stage we can all agree, English is just a bastard language.

I think at this stage we can all agree, English is just a bastard language.
Nah, its more like a milk shake.

I find Spanish hard. They gave genders to inanimate objects and you have to make the other words agree with it. It's hard as hell, especially when a directly translated sentence sounds like: No I like female-the female-objects female-reds. I had a hard time remembering which number means twenty and which means thirty. Plus, I can't remember how to make an enye(n with ~ above it) with a keyboard or how to get those wierd `s above letters.

You don't really say 'female' before everything, and http://www.spanishnewyork.com/type-spanish-accents.html

Ever think about how the Spanish speakers feel?

"The lack of gender's great, except they got that funky "a" and "an" thing going on. Nobody really knows why. In Spanish, you just say, "hablo, hablas, habla, hablaís, hablamos, hablan".

In English, you have to remember to throw on whole other words! Then they have other tenses, too! There's practically no rules to the common verbs like "be", "go", and "spell" to name a few. Anyhow, you have to remember to say, "I talk, you talk, he/she/it/Mr./Mrs./Dr./Father/et cetera talks, those people I know well talks, we talks, y'all/you guys talks". Its so bloody hard!
*head explodes*"

Really, the thing we do with 'a' and 'an' is rather similar to 'y' and 'e', or 'o' and 'u'.

But yeah, a lot of words seem to be inside the verb in Spanish. 'Do', for example.

English is a Germanic language with a whole bunch of loanwords from Latin & French.

Really, the thing we do with 'a' and 'an' is rather similar to 'y' and 'e', or 'o' and 'u'.
True that. Although I've speculated that the "a" and "an" are left-overs from a time when English bothered with genders. I really can't prove anything though.

Spanish speakers say the key to their language is verbs. So study them verbs!
That last bit was rather off topic, but, it might help somebody.

True that. Although I've speculated that the "a" and "an" are left-overs from a time when English bothered with genders. I really can't prove anything though.

Spanish speakers say the key to their language is verbs. So study them verbs!
That last bit was rather off topic, but, it might help somebody.

Well, it's true...You could do fine with verbs, and maybe the occasional 'that'.

Well, I never liked the gender systems found in both German and Latin (and most of their relatives) and I loathe the way the Geman word for "little girl" is neuter (talk about ageism AND sexism, no wonder Asuka from Neon Genesis Evangelion was so worried about being thought a doll). In terms of sound, though, the Romance languages win easily as German is among the most grotesque-sounding languages in Europe and even through out the world, it has few real competitors.

Finnish and Japanese both sound nice, but Finnish has a really complex grammar, I hear (15 cases in comparison to Latin's 6, IIRC). Japanese has an insane writing system, though. If they hate China so much, why don't they just ditch the kanji, anyway? I like some forms of Chinese, as well, though they obviously suffer from the same writing problem as Japanese.


heh.. i know someone from Finland.. at one point she was trying to tell me it had no garmer rules. it does, but they're.. somewhat ... amorphus? i think that's the word i'm after.

weird fact about english: it's gramer is actually Very structured [when spoken correctly :P]

humm.. that comment about a excited highschool girl speaking english being fast? it gets worse when said girl is also a Kiwi who grew up in a eurpean family [generaly... it's learnt, obviously] in the city...

now THAT is fast.

french always gave me problems with pronounciation.. well, a problem. the S at the end of words... now, in english, that's one of the stronger sounds, really.

in french it gets droped.. but not always, depending on the next word :headbang:

so i'd always get it wrong. i'd either slip up and pronounce it, or remember and not pronunce it, on one of the few words where you're Ment to pronounce it. ugh.

if you want a relitivly simple language, try Maori. not a romance or germanic language. less charicters than english, vowel pronounceiation roughly equivilant to japanese or finnish...

the only awkward thing to try and pronouce is "ng".. in english it only turns up, that i remember in "ing" .. in maori, it can be the first sound in a word, vowel free :eek:

the english gender system is quite functional, i think: everything is neuter unless it's a noun and actually HAS a gender. well, with the exception of the pronouns and words such as "boy", "girl", "man", "woman"

the reason english is so evil, really, is because, structured as it is, it has so meny exceptions! gah... i'm not sure if there's a single rule where SOMETHING doesn't break it.

the whole a/an thing is rediculously simple, really.

if the next word starts with a vowel [or occasionaly an h that is too breathy to break it up properly. in this instance y does not count as a vowel] it is "an" if it starts with anything else, it's "a" ... of course, when dealing with letters rather htan words it's a bit more interesting, but it really comes down to the first sound.

interestingly, the words "an other" were Originaly, "a nother" ... the n sort of migrated. or so i'm told.

Like I said this morning, German sounds awful and it makes no bloody sense. I much prefer French, and at least we share a goodly portion of our nouns with the French.

Whenever I hear German, it's like I just tune out. Meaningless gibberish.

IMHO english is Germanic/Brythonic/Latin/Noman-French mix with a few words added into it

i think that all languages have in the right place and momment a sort of beauty part from that nasally french you hear sometimes

Romance languages are awesome. Latin too.

IMHO english is Germanic/Brythonic/Latin/Noman-French mix with a few words added into it

i think that all languages have in the right place and momment a sort of beauty part from that nasally french you hear sometimes
English is essentially germanic with the influences you mentioned, yes, as well as greek influences.

I hate Latin, basically because I had to waste 5 years of my life to learn it. All the other languages are fine by me.
Latin is the crown jewel of Western linguistic creation. The Opus Magnus. The fact that it is not learnt by everyone nowadays is a shame.

How in the world could someone think Germanic Languages are better than Latinate (I like that term better than Romance) languages.

Have you ever tried saying I love you in German, it sounds obscene.

The Latinate languages are much more beatiful and soft when spoken. The Germanic languages sound rough, and I know that if one didn't grow up speaking English would be hard to manage.

French is always beautiful and artistic, and Italian is sexy, along with Spanish.

I'm taking Spanish Right now, and I can say that its really not a very hard language to learn, there is a lot tenses like someone mentioned:

Hablar: Hablo, Hablas, Habla, Hablamos, hablan, and thats just present tense, but Spanish follows a definate pattern, and with a good teacher, anyone could master it in a few years maybe 3 or 4.

I know I'm enthusiastic about it, and only after 2 years, I can pretty much survive in Mexico or Spain if I needed to, though I'm not fluent yet.

Rome fell because of all the latin. Imagine if they had spoken Deutsch! Roman Empire, but speaking German? Actually, I think we already had something like that. But you know what I mean.
Ja, ich weiß, was Du meinst :D
Edit: vile language.
Oh no, you didn't!
Boo German, yay Latin. Latin may be the biggest pain in the ass in the world to learn, but I think it sounds a lot nicer. Germanic and Slavic languages sound naturally angry.
Stop the German bashing or I'll give you angry :D
Actually, Latin sounds just like the native tongue who speaks it - I had to take Latin in order to study English (how ironic!) and we've listened to samples from native speakers all around the world. Guess what - only Spanish and Italiens sounded better than the Germans. At least you can understand what a German says when he speaks Latin!
While German might be related to English, I can't make heads or tails of it - it just doesn't make any sense, and it sounds terrible to boot. French on the other hand - makes perfect sense (to me, anyway), sounds great, and half the words are used in English anyway.
No contest. Make mine French, baby. Save the German for Bond Villains and WWII re-enactments.
First of all, I took French for six years and that's a language that doesn't make any sense (to me :D).
Secondly, you forgot to mention zee scientizts!
Chinese would, however, be a perfect writing system. No matter what language you speak, Chinese script will mean the same thing. Once you understand Chinese script, you can write to another person with it, even if you do not know the spoken language.
Just too bad you'd have to learn all those thousands of signs, right? How does that work with computers, anyway? (I know how - just imagine a 4000-key keyboard!)
English is GERMANIC, with Latin elements.
If that were completely true - why did I have to take Latin at German university to study English, huh?
First came the Romans, then came the Saxons...
Well, I never liked the gender systems found in both German and Latin (and most of their relatives) and I loathe the way the Geman word for "little girl" is neuter. (...) In terms of sound, though, the Romance languages win easily as German is among the most grotesque-sounding languages in Europe and even through out the world, it has few real competitors.

Stop it already! German is the language of thinkers and poets!
I'm actually rather fond of French. I'm not distinctly familiar with Spanish or Italian, but if they're much like French, I don't think I would mind them at all. It's German I can't get my head around.
Ah, see? There's your problem - you need to let it get inside your head!
(...)
German is the language of war, not of scholars. Latin is surely the language of scholars.(...)
And you, my friend, have no idea about German! Your claim is utter Bullenscheiße!
Meh, German still has diphthongs, which is a big steak of against logic in my opinion. *hates diphthongs*
So what? I had to learn a proper "th" as well. It's not that hard!
Nope, finden is irregular.
ich finde
du findetest
er/sie/es findet
wir finden
ihr findet
sie finden
Sie finden
and it's die Leute
Here, let me:
finden; ich finde, du findest, er/sie/es findet; wir finden, ihr findet, sie finden
It's not as irregular as you might think :D
And "Leute" without an article simply makes them undefined, just like "people think" vs. "the people think".
BTW, it is Liebe; lieben (Leib is either loaf or body).
Nah, its more like a milk shake.
Yeah, everyone had a sip, didn't like it and spit it back into the cup :D (JK)
Like I said this morning, German sounds awful and it makes no bloody sense. I much prefer French, and at least we share a goodly portion of our nouns with the French.
Whenever I hear German, it's like I just tune out. Meaningless gibberish.
Ignoranter Bastard! :D (See, it makes sense now, doesn't it?)
Have you ever tried saying I love you in German, it sounds obscene.
Uhm, hello? First of all, no it doesn't really - then again, what's so bad about it, huh?

And now stop bashing the wonderful German language, Ihr Arschgeigen! :D

French: I am pretty proficient in it and I absolutely adore it! :D

Spanish: Distaste for it; it seems tacky. (Il n'est pas assez prétentieux pour moi)

Italian: Why must every word end in a vowel?

Portugese: No opinion

Romanian: No opinion


What other one am I forgetting? x.x

Boo Romantic languages.

German is such a manly, barbaric language, yet so beautiful. The best language to yell random things/curse in.

French: I am pretty proficient in it and I absolutely adore it! :D

Spanish: Distaste for it; it seems tacky. (Il n'est pas assez prétentieux pour moi)

Italian: Why must every word end in a vowel?

Portugese: No opinion

Romanian: No opinion


What other one am I forgetting? x.x
Romansch.

I think that's all the ones with the language status. There are more, like Catalan and Gallego, but those are considered dialects. Unfairly, I think.

I think that's all the ones with the language status. There are more, like Catalan and Gallego, but those are considered dialects. Unfairly, I think.

The different between a dialect and a language is that languages have countries behind them.

The different between a dialect and a language is that languages have countries behind them.
Like Ostrayan?

Hey dude, do this test. :D
http://focus.msn.de/bildung/bildung/einbuergerungstest/einbuergerungstest_aid_20544.html
And seriously, don't cheat. I wanna know.

Things have names, and a gender is simply assigned by their termination (-o, for male, -a for female, and a few more rules) or just by common use. It's pretty arbitrary actually, whether an object will be male or female, but since Spanish pretty much eliminated its neutral gender it's now required.
I mean the concept of genders. Was someone just like "Ted, that rock kinda looks like a chick, we should when we talk about that rock we should call it "tha rock" so everyone knows it is femine. No! We should do that for all rocks. Also, if the rock does something, we should pronounce the verb slightly different. etc. etc."

Like Ostrayan?

Hey dude, do this test. :D
http://focus.msn.de/bildung/bildung/einbuergerungstest/einbuergerungstest_aid_20544.html
And seriously, don't cheat. I wanna know.

20/25 on the first test. Do others later.

Modern English is the finest language ever conceived. The sooner everyone else in the world learns that, the better.;)

Yeah, I do think Germanic languages are generally nicer. Slavic is quite nice too.

And Rome fell because they got lazy. >_>
Rome fell cos' they all went mad because of the lead pipes carrying their water.

Thats why we have the word plumbing, Pb is the symbol for Lead because the Romans called the pipes Plumbum or something. Or at least thats what my science teacher said.

There are more, like Catalan and Gallego, but those are considered dialects. Unfairly, I think.
I was doing some research on those two ealiers this year and Catalan is fairly accepted as a separate language. Gallego, because it is sooo close to Portuguese is more dialect. For some all out fun, look into Vasco/Euskera: it will rock you world like nothing else! (Prolly cause there's nothing else like it!)

Modern English is the finest language ever conceived. The sooner everyone else in the world learns that, the better.;)
Which one? British, American, Aussie?

I want to know what to call my beer:
bitter, water or foster (australian for beer).

Nah, New Zealand english. hehe. it's just a beer then. so far as i remember, at least.

though.. it's liberaly sprinkled with maori words..

when it comes to forms of english though, american is the most annoying, australlian the most nonsensical, and british just.. is.

New Zealand english is .. Fast.. generaly. and we have a tendancy to drop t, b, p, and so on, sounds out of the middle of words... just due to speed. and mumbleing.... hehe.

Not counting Latin, of course. No offence to anyone, but French is strange, confusing, and somewhat prissy, Spanish feels annoying because it's fast-paced, and Italian makes it seem like the Italians based their official language on what they pulled out of the mystery box.

Although, I quite like Romanian >_>
Well, French has this atrocious spelling (even worse than the English one which at least doesn't have all these accents) and sounds kinda strange because all these nasal sounds, and Spanish sounds a little odd too...
but Italian sounds very nice :D

Speaking of the finish language this is a jewel I found, so funny, yet so true...


http://rapidshare.de/files/18405027/ep1_high.wmv.html

Is worth it, I laugh again and again seeing it :D

I mean the concept of genders. Was someone just like "Ted, that rock kinda looks like a chick, we should when we talk about that rock we should call it "tha rock" so everyone knows it is femine. No! We should do that for all rocks. Also, if the rock does something, we should pronounce the verb slightly different. etc. etc."
No. As I said, it's pretty much arbitrary. It could have been 'el roco' just as well. It's simply how the chips fell, I guess. You have things like 'el televisor' and 'la televisión' which are two words for the same object both have different gender, one came from English, the other one for French. Gender is simply assigned by the word ending.

We simply don't think about it. We know they're things and as such they're neither male nor female. It's just a language convention.

Verbs don't change with gender, only articles and adjectives do. There used to be a neutral form, but it was eliminated over time.

The different between a dialect and a language is that languages have countries behind them.
But not all languages have countries behind them. Latin, Sami, Euskera (ah mentioned already) Mordva etc

But not all languages have countries behind them. Latin, Sami, Euskera (ah mentioned already) Mordva etc

Latin is dead,dead,dead. And when it was alive, it had the Roman Empire behind it.

So what? I had to learn a proper "th" as well. It's not that hard!
I'm just saying that dipthongs are extremely annoying. I'm more attracted to the Swedish and Finnish ways having every letter make an independent sound.
Yeah, everyone had a sip, didn't like it and spit it back into the cup.
Stop sipping. Someone else would to try the English milk shake.
And now stop bashing the wonderful German language, Ihr Arschgeigen!
Be good: Do not use conjunctions to begin a sentence in the English language!
Boo Romantic languages.
Down with all languages that have words expressing "love"! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10792249&postcount=72) :rolleyes:
German is such a manly, barbaric language, yet so beautiful. The best language to yell random things/curse in.
I disagree. Svenska är också manlig. Kanske är den manligare... (http://http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10793996&postcount=94)
It is common knowledge that German - or any other language than Greek for that matter - isn't Greek. How is that a plus?
The best language to yell random things/curses in would be a language no or very few can speak to avoid getting lynched.
Let us take an example: Basque.

Here, let me:
finden; ich finde, du findest, er/sie/es findet; wir finden, ihr findet, sie finden
It's not as irregular as you might think :D
And "Leute" without an article simply makes them undefined, just like "people think" vs. "the people think".
BTW, it is Liebe; lieben (Leib is either loaf or body)
Ya, I wasn't sure about the du, so I guessed. I just remembered finded from the big evil list of irregular verbs. Something like 118 verbs. And I'm sure there are more irregular verbs in the german language. And the damn thing doesn't tell us whether the perfect form is used with haben or sein.

And latin is the language of scholars. These days at least. And you can't beat some latin humour. Beati Hispani, quibus vivere bibere est. Though I always say beati Hiberni.

Rome fell cos' they all went mad because of the lead pipes carrying their water.

Thats why we have the word plumbing, Pb is the symbol for Lead because the Romans called the pipes Plumbum or something. Or at least thats what my science teacher said.
Possibly, plumbum is the latin for lead. I am talking about latin far too much, considering I know hardly any.

The best language to yell random things/curses in would be a language no or very few can speak to avoid getting lynched.
Let us take an example: Basque.

try "Zure ama emagaldua da" or ''zoaz popatik hartzera!''

Spanish rocks!!!, Italian is beautiful and even french is nice to speak, however latin conjures up childhood memories of Latin Mass (shudder)

Latin is dead,dead,dead. And when it was alive, it had the Roman Empire behind it.
ok, forget Latin. Now find a country behind Sami (the list goes on and on...)

*spews Coke out nose* Spanish is a lot harder than English! I thinks they have 50 different verb conjugations. And German has 3 genders, and various other hard stuff that English lacks. English is easy.


Ah but the beauty of Spanish is even their irregulars have a pattern and system - where as ours are just plain random

e.g. English: "Eat --> Ate" (WTF??)
Spanish: "Estar --> Estuve