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Now I know the whole Iran nuclear power thing has been discussed out the wazoo....But anywho...If Iran wants nuclear power for peaceful usage, why don't we just enrich it for them and send it to be used for the power..Keep the waste, and no threat of the bomb, right?

Now that seems a pretty good idea.

Now I know the whole Iran nuclear power thing has been discussed out the wazoo....But anywho...If Iran wants nuclear power for peaceful usage, why don't we just enrich it for them and send it to be used for the power..Keep the waste, and no threat of the bomb, right?
they wont agree to that

Is that not what Russia presented months ago?

Russia offered, Iran refused.

why would Iran let the US make theiruranium? just because the U.S. is making it does not mean that there is no threat. other countries are scared shitless of the US. and at the moment, the US is the aggressive country...

Is that not what Russia presented months ago?


Ah....did they really? well there goes my dream of being the guy to solve a middle eastern problem...back to the drawing boards

why would Iran let the US make theiruranium? just because the U.S. is making it does not mean that there is no threat. other countries are scared shitless of the US. and at the moment, the US is the aggressive country...
Who said any thing about the US being involved? The proposed deal was for the russians or possibly the french to do it.

Is that not what Russia presented months ago?
It is.

Iran answered with "Why should we have to buy the power when we can make it ourselves legally under the existing treaty?" Which is a fair point.

Ah....did they really? well there goes my dream of being the guy to solve a middle eastern problem...back to the drawing boards
Yes. But don't give up on your dreams, because you'll land on the moon...or something.

Who said any thing about the US being involved? The proposed deal was for the russians or possibly the french to do it.

Oh...in my OP i made a reference to us..meaning the US...oops...well I guess any stable outside source would work really.

I've got an idea. Why don't we stop trying to prevent Iran enriching uranium for peaceful means? :O

why would Iran let the US make theiruranium? just because the U.S. is making it does not mean that there is no threat. other countries are scared shitless of the US. and at the moment, the US is the aggressive country...
Yeah, but Russia is a friend of theirs and they refused Russia's offer to process their fuel for them.

It is.

Iran answered with "Why should we have to buy the power when we can make it ourselves legally under the existing treaty?" Which is a fair point.


well I am sure with some political pressure from the US, japan, and the EU (ie trade embargo from all three) then Eventually Iran would have to give in to demands, right?

well I am sure with some political pressure from the US, japan, and the EU (ie trade embargo from all three) then Eventually Iran would have to give in to demands, right?

Russia would still deal with them...

I've got an idea. Why don't we stop trying to prevent Iran enriching uranium for peaceful means? :O


Well..I would be all for them having nuclear power, except for the fact of their president..New president that is less aggressive and irrational, and i would be more than happy to allow them to have it.

Russia would still deal with them...


But does russia have everything they need? and with just russia trading with them,( a very closed market ) there'd be sure monopoly on Russia's part.

But does russia have everything they need? and with just russia trading with them,( a very closed market ) there'd be sure monopoly on Russia's part.

You're never going to shut off world trade with Russia and the other Arab nations. I think Iran is relatively self-sufficient for food products etc. anyway.

well I am sure with some political pressure from the US, japan, and the EU (ie trade embargo from all three) then Eventually Iran would have to give in to demands, right?
Why should they? They have every right to pursue domestic use. In fact, the treaty signed by everyone states that we should *help* them pursue domestic-use nuclear.

I don't see the US or Russia helping Iran... One has to wonder why one side can breach the treaty but the other side should be denied what is allowed in the treaty.

So far, it seems the US and other *think* they know what Iran *thinks* and what they *will* do with the technology. And the evidence put forward is less than conclusive.

Why should they? They have every right to pursue domestic use. In fact, the treaty signed by everyone states that we should *help* them pursue domestic-use nuclear.

I don't see the US or Russia helping Iran... One has to wonder why one side can breach the treaty but the other side should be denied what is allowed in the treaty.

So far, it seems the US and other *think* they know what Iran *thinks* and what they *will* do with the technology. And the evidence put forward is less than conclusive.


Well I am just concerned. I think that if we let them have it, they will let it go for bad things..sell it on the black market, and then next thing you know, NYC, Tel aviv and london are no more. That kinda thing worries me.

As delightful as it might seem to have a few of our fundamentalist Nation States here to blow each other up with nukes and then sit and see what happens to the game...it really isnt such a novelty out in the 'real world'....

Iran is a dyed-in-the-wool fundamentalist nation....baying for Zionist Annihilation and that of whoever else they fancy killing.....them having gunpowder is bad enough..nukes..are something we'd do good to keep amongst nations which use some sense of responsibility in their polity.....not tithe their land to allah and hope there would be divine intervention when they screw up.

Now I know the whole Iran nuclear power thing has been discussed out the wazoo....But anywho...If Iran wants nuclear power for peaceful usage, why don't we just enrich it for them and send it to be used for the power..Keep the waste, and no threat of the bomb, right?

Russia made a similar proposal a while back, Iran turned them down claiming that such a deal would violate their rights as a sovereign nation.

Guess I should have read the thread before posting.

Besides..who says they actually 'need' nuclear power eh?....they are one of the highest oil producing countries in the world...and are lobbying for a pipeline to India to export Oil and natural gas ....so..if they are that fossil fuel rich.....reserves abundant enough to merit their export...why one earth would they actually 'need' to develop a technology which is ridiculously expensive and inherently dangerous for 'peaceful' reasons of power production..huh?...something to think about..isnt it?..

come to think of it...they have enough sunshine year round to make solar power a very practical solution to a power crisis if any.....a third of that country is barren desert....and the options for wind power and geothermal energy are boundless given the extensive coastline that Iran has along the Persian Gulf and the Caspian Sea......

so..no..they don't want nuclear power for any supposedly peaceful purposes...they just want to join the club so the USA wouldn't do an 'Iraq' on them......

they dont need nuclear power, or even want it. they just want to be able to say they have it. its a status thing, stickin it to the US.

As a matter of fact Iran could already produce their own low-grade enriched uranium. This level is not potent enough for military uses. The disproportionate and belligerent response of the USA has been highly destabilising in the world.

[QUOTE=Kadambia]Besides..who says they actually 'need' nuclear power eh?QUOTE]

However, I do understand the concerns of the US. I do not understand why Iran would resort to nuclear energy for fuel especially since they have an abundance of fossil fuels. Furthermore, Iran is located in a series of earthquake faults. The presence of nuclear power plants could easily potentially could precipitate into another Chernobyl disaster.

Even if Iran is planning to develop nuclear weapons, the US has no right to interfere on the grounds that it is potentially a terrorist states. America clearly has been supporting other client terrorist states, namely Israel, in their nuclear programme.

Besides..who says they actually 'need' nuclear power eh?

(pretty much) renewable energy isn't it you’ know the whole “save the planet thing” solar power is too high tech and well crappy and geothermal is a dangerous business in such a geographically unpredictable area.

The thing is nuclear power (though it is reasonably safe from meltdown even with Iran’s technology) could be much safer if we gave them are full knowledge on nuclear safety something that really shouldn’t need to be secret