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Ok now lets see what you think who is the greates VGV.

Bowser

Sarah Kerrigan from Starcraft/Broodwar

Bowser
Sarah Kerrigan from Starcraft/BroodwarOh sure, take the two best right off the bat.

:sniper: malak from kotor or vader from battlefront, empires at war, etc...etc...etc.

why???? blowing away a entire planet for one or two people.

Dagoth Ur, from Morrowind. Mostly because he wasn’t really evil but a product of unfortunate circumstances who was only trying to carry out what his master and closest friend requested of him.

Also Mephistopheles from Neverwinter Nights was just badass. Can’t get more evil than a demon who engineers a rebellion in hell against himself in order to take out his enemies, all the while preteneding to be under the control of a dark elf queen in order to gain access to the mortal world.

The villains from the Kotor series were also all kind of 1337. Something unique about each of them, Malek, Nihlus, Scion, Treia.

:sniper: malak from kotor or vader from battlefront, empires at war, etc...etc...etc.

why???? blowing away a entire planet for one or two people.
Malek didn’t blow up Taris, he merely leveled the city, and it was Tarkin who oversaw the destruction of Alderan. In fact, Darth Vader didn’t even offer an opinion on the matter.

Oh sure, take the two best right off the bat.

Oh, come on, they didn't get all the popular villains. After all, they forgot Sephiroth... Oops, I really should have left him for somebody else.

That said, now that my most obvious choice (Kerrigan) is taken, here's two more for the list:
Individual: Darth Vader (*insert any number of Star Wars games here*)
Species: Shevar (Ascendancy), though classifying them as true villains is questionable

Tonberry, hands down.

Oh, come on, they didn't get all the popular villains.Oh, I know, but they named who I would consider to be the best two. Bowser is such an amusing goof, and Kerrigan actually made the lesser race of the Starcraft games interesting.

Bowser!

He really should have taped his tail to his back before the third battle in Mario 64 though...

Oh, come on, they didn't get all the popular villains. After all, they forgot Sephiroth...
Wait, what?
Seriously why do people think that queen is so badass?

Ganondorf.

I don't see any good choices here, sorry.

(While Darth Vader may have been a good villian in the original trilogy, few of the games he's been in have been very good. Except for TIE Fighter. But he only got a cameo in that one.)

may be I shouldn't have made this a poll....

Ganondorf.
Fuck. I knew I forgot one.

Wait, what?
Seriously why do people think that queen is so badass?

She's the Queen bitch of the universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in her way.

EDIT: Hmmm, I think SHODAN is a great villian too.

I mean, I've never abused my computer after meeting her. She'll kill you just if she thinks she's having a bad day and taunt you while she does it.

Sarah Kerrigan from Starcraft/Broodwar

Really? As much as I like the character, I always liked Arcturus Mengsk better. He seemed more rational and calculating, even though he had an underlying need to dominate the terran political structure. Kerrigan often seemed like she was two steps away from a temper-tantrum worthy of a five year old.

Also, don't forget, had Mengsk not abandoned Kerrigan, then Kerrigan would probably never have even become a villain. :)

She's the Queen bitch of the universe. And not all of your little soldiers or space ships will stand in her way.

EDIT: Hmmm, I think SHODAN is a great villian too.

I mean, I've never abused my computer after meeting her. She'll kill you just if she thinks she's having a bad day and taunt you while she does it.
Hey, Kerrigan kicks ass.

I was referring to the other “queen,” Sepheroth. I meant it like fag, quire, etc.

Really? As much as I like the character, I always liked Arcturus Mengsk better. He seemed more rational and calculating, even though he had an underlying need to dominate the terran political structure. Kerrigan often seemed like she was two steps away from a temper-tantrum worthy of a five year old.

Mengsk just doesn't seem to fit the villian character as well as Kerrigan does. He seems more of a neutral one who did evil deeds in my view. Much better than Kerrigan who is driven by revenge and betraying every single ally she can get.

It was just brilliant how she forced the Protoss in helping her kill the new overmind. Simply brilliant.

Also, don't forget, had Mengsk not abandoned Kerrigan, then Kerrigan would probably never have even become a villain. :)

You're right here.

EDIT: Hey, Kerrigan kicks ass.

I was referring to the other “queen,” Sepheroth. I meant it like fag, quire, etc.

Ahh, I misunderstood you. I thought you meant "Queen of Blades".

Really? As much as I like the character, I always liked Arcturus Mengsk better. He seemed more rational and calculating, even though he had an underlying need to dominate the terran political structure. Kerrigan often seemed like she was two steps away from a temper-tantrum worthy of a five year old.
Mengsk’s speech at the end of the first Terran Campaign is ausome. The tail end is my nation’s motto. “We will fight on, no matter the cost.”

Mengsk’s speech at the end of the first Terran Campaign is ausome. The tail end is my nation’s motto. “We will fight on, no matter the cost.”

I thought it was "We shall win through, no matter the cost."

Anyway, it was a great speech. Kinda makes me think of Bush jr.

Now I must kill myself for probably ruining this thread.

That would be Kefka.

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That bastard always comes at the worst time. You always have to wall up an empty spot.

I thought it was "We shall win through, no matter the cost."

Anyway, it was a great speech. Kinda makes me think of Bush jr.

Now I must kill myself for probably ruining this thread.
You're right, I remembered incorrectly. Megnk's speech kicks that crap out of anything Bush has ever said but that is the last we shall speak of real world politics in this thread.

Sephiroth. FF7 Sephiroth, not that pansy bitch from Kingdom Hearts.

Sephiroth. FF7 Sephiroth, not that pansy bitch from Kingdom Hearts.
Whatever. I think Kingdom Hearts did do a good job of making a bunch of lame Disney Villains seem pretty evil, though, especially Maleficent.

Whatever. I think Kingdom Hearts did do a good job of making a bunch of lame Disney Villains seem pretty evil, though, especially Maleficent.

But they dragged FF characters down. Sephiroth and Cloud get beaten by a 12 year old? Heresy.

Mengsk’s speech at the end of the first Terran Campaign is ausome. The tail end is my nation’s motto. “We shall win through, no matter the cost.”

That speech is simply awesome...the cinematic that goes with it is great too...and that last line gave me goosebumps the first time I heard it. :)

That speech is simply awesome...the cinematic that goes with it is great too...and that last line gave me goosebumps the first time I heard it. :)
Its rare one can feel proud simply for being human. Kinda like that movie, Independence Day.

But they dragged FF characters down. Sephiroth and Cloud get beaten by a 12 year old? Heresy.
A twelve year old with a giant magic key!

Its rare one can feel proud simply for being human. Kinda like that movie, Independence Day.

Gah...screw that.

Give me a Starcraft movie! I'll never leave the theatre...I'll stop shaving, I'll waste my whole paycheck!

Just give me the chance to see a Zergling rip off a Zealots face on the big screen...PLEASE! :D

Gah...screw that.

Give me a Starcraft movie! I'll never leave the theatre...I'll stop shaving, I'll waste my whole paycheck!

Just give me the chance to see a Zergling rip off a Zealots face on the big screen...PLEASE! :D
Ever get the feeling that Alien vs Predator kind of ripped off Starcraft?

Holy shit, I can't believe I forgot the man, the myth the legend himself!!


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Oh yes.

Ever get the feeling that Alien vs Predator kind of ripped off Starcraft?

Considering that both Alien and Predator existed before Starcraft, no, I can't say I ever get that feeling.

Shodan.

Some of the Knights of the Old Republic bad guys were pretty cool, but they turned out to be pussies for the most part.

Shodan.

Some of the Knights of the Old Republic bad guys were pretty cool, but they turned out to be pussies for the most part.

Which is the fault of the programmers. Not the people who invented the stories for the games nor the artwork for their appearances.

And, let's be frank, HK-47 is the best evil character, ever. Conjecture: Better than Lucifer, perhaps. Statement: And certainly superior to any organic meatbag!

Luca Blight, Suikoden II. Come on, anyone? ANYONE? Or am I the only fan here? :(

Which is the fault of the programmers. Not the people who invented the stories for the games nor the artwork for their appearances.

Kindof, particularly in the case of Nihilus in KOTOR 2, who was simply disappointing, although he was truly set up well. But I have issues with certain parts of the character development in the other characters too. And Malak never really seemed all that awesome when compared to Darth Revan. ;)

And, let's be frank, HK-47 is the best evil character, ever. Conjecture: Better than Lucifer, perhaps. Statement: And certainly superior to any organic meatbag!

Definitely one of the more memorable evil ones, but he was on your side, whether you played light or dark. I thought that would invalidate him as a "villain".

Freaking Mind worms in Alpha Centuari , only cos there so annoying when they appear and then there is the Pope in Medieval Total War and his excomincate you when ever he feels like it

Overall, I'd say Ganondorf, especially in Wind Waker.

Honorable mentions go to Lavos (Chrono Trigger), Ultimecia (FF8), and Ridley (Metroid series).

Kindof, particularly in the case of Nihilus in KOTOR 2, who was simply disappointing, although he was truly set up well. But I have issues with certain parts of the character development in the other characters too. And Malak never really seemed all that awesome when compared to Darth Revan. ;)

Well, Kreia was certainly very well-written. And one of the most thought-provoking characters in any game I've ever played. Not to mention the most thought-provoking character in all of the Star Wars Universe. Hell, because of Kreia, KOTORII is probably as thought-provoking (if not more so) than the classic Deus Ex or DXIW.

Definitely one of the more memorable evil ones, but he was on your side, whether you played light or dark. I thought that would invalidate him as a "villain".

Fine. Darth Traya. :p

I said Sephiroth, because he features in Kingdom HEarts a well and is evil in that too as well as FF7

I really wanted to pick Tonberrry though

Jack of Blades (Fable) and Edea (FF7) deserve a mention as well

Overall, I'd say Ganondorf, especially in Wind Waker.

Honorable mentions go to Lavos (Chrono Trigger), Ultimecia (FF8), and Ridley (Metroid series).

I never saw what was so great about Ganondorf. Anybody who comes up with the same basic plan, then proceeds to get his ass kicked, and comes back a year later to do the same thing, isn't a very good villain in my book.

Kane from the Command & Conquer series.

Nothing like a bad guy that can win ;)

Well, Kreia was certainly very well-written. And one of the most thought-provoking characters in any game I've ever played. Not to mention the most thought-provoking character in all of the Star Wars Universe. Hell, because of Kreia, KOTORII is probably as thought-provoking (if not more so) than the classic Deus Ex or DXIW.



Fine. Darth Traya. :p

She was one of the better ones (Sion was just lame.), but I hated the ending. I never thought of her as a true "villain" because of that.

The Dragon King at the end of Dragon Warrior just cause he asked you to join the darkside and if you said "Yes" he said "Really!?"

The Sun Li from Jade Empire, epic badass. From his defiling of a primal nature spirit, to his masterful impossibly intricate plan, to his ruthless ambition as evidenced by his answer to the revealation of his long lost, presumed dead, daughter, he the very picture of uncomprimising cunning.

And, a classic, the Cyberdemon from DooM.

She was one of the better ones (Sion was just lame.), but I hated the ending. I never thought of her as a true "villain" because of that.

Nihilus was kinda scary. But. Er. Other then that, there wasn't much to him. Just a Ringwraith in Star Wars.

Sion was so very lame. Le sigh. 'i m teh ebol invincibel mann!!!111!1 watsch i ctu of kreyas hand!!111!!!1 look!111!!11 i in republicque schipp!!11!11 look at al teh bodies!111!!!!!1 i r teh ebol!11!!!!! yargh!1!!!!!!!!!1'

The the Sith/Dark Jedi who you think are Jedi were cool. Kreia and Atris. Visas Mar was pretty cool, too. But still. My vote stays firmly with Darth Traya. She may have had a lot of thoughts to give, but at the end of the day she was the one who essentially engineered all of the events that led you right up to your final confrontation with her. Not so evil. But very thoughtful.

And I'll take a thought provoking, morally ambiguous villian over a blindly evil one anyday.

All mentioned by other people, but:

1) SHODAN (System Shock 1/2)

2) Kane (Command & Conquer, Tiberian Sun)

3) The Pope (Medieval: Total War)

HK-47 was fun, too, although not a villian really. Just a sociopathic robot.


Edit: Hehe, upgraded to "Sometimes Deadly" in a thread about villains...

Murray, the talking demonic skull.

Murray: I'm a powerful demonic force! I'm the harbinger of your doom! And the forces of darkness will applaud me as I STRIDE through the gates of hell carrying your head on a pike!
Guybrush Threepwood: Stride?
Murray: All right then, roll! ROLL through the gates of hell. Must you take the fun out of everything?

Guybrush Threepwood: Do you know anything about lifting curses?
Murray: Oh, right. I know a lot about lifting curses. That's why I'm a disembodied talking skull sitting on top of a spike in the middle of a swamp.
Guybrush Threepwood: You seem bitter.
Murray: I'm sorry. It's been a rough day.

Sarah Kerrigan was just nice to play with :) Especially when she consumes one of her underlings.

Murray the All Powerful Demonic Skull for Despot!

Although he's too cute to be a villain.

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That bastard always comes at the worst time. You always have to wall up an empty spot.
YES.

By the way: whoever chooses Sephiroth earns a night in a barn. Full of dripping acid and flamethrowers. He's overrated trash that really annoys me.

Xemnas, from KH II, was pretty good. But, eh, I dunno who I'd really pick. I'd say they are all good in their own way.

i'd have to go with....

Eda [sp] from ff8 as most creapy
Darth Reven for most... randomly cool, i would say why but it's something of a spoiler, and i can't work out how to colour it so it's black text on black background yet.

the tetris block rates highly.


HK-47 is cool, but not really a villan

i play a lot of stratagy games, so who is the "villan" is relitive... in romance of the three kingdoms, in any scenario where Dong Zhuo is already dead...

CAO CAO IS EVIL!!!!

Sima Ye in the latist dynasty warriors when you're not playing on Wei's side would have to be most annoying... even when admiting you're good, he's like "but of course, i could do it better" i mean, seriously, you beat him, he says something to the effect of "such a task is beneath one of my skill, but for now we shall pull back" ... and it gets worse *laughs*

Sepheroth is... well, he's ok, but i really don't see the point in all the hype he gets.

i'd have to say for over all best villan though, Yu Yevon. he's a weak and worthless ball of dark light by the time you fight him, but he's been terroriseing an entire planet for over 1000 years in the guise of "Sin" befor then.... and is responcibel for the social/political structure of an entire world..

hey, he may suck, but he's GOOD at it :D

bigs and wedge [ff8 specificly, but any where they're bad guys really] rate as funnyest. though when they leave it's kind of a let down... you just see them in passing, don't even have to talk to them, and they're just talking about quiting the army...

Where the hell's Jon Irenicus on this list?

He's the most excellently psychopathic villain ever!

Your choices are mostly crap, by the way.

*edits*

Oh and SHODAN, of course. And John Steele, although he's actually a hero, I suppose.

For the pure, :eek: how-am-I-supposed-to-beat-this :upyours: thing feeling, try Shadow of the Colossus.
Most of the bosses in this game will leave you feeling :eek: :confused: :headbang: :upyours: :eek: when you first see them, especially the sixteenth, and "final", colossus.

Ahh, Irenicus, yes, he's wicked :D David Warner is awesome.

officer tenpenny. can't think of any others.

Wait, what?
Seriously why do people think that queen is so badass?
'cause they didn't understand the story. They think that they're fighting Sephiroth throughout the game, when in fact he got materia-ised 5 years before the game even starts.

Final Fantasy villains are a little overdone in general. Jenova is a pretty good one though, as far as they go.

the charactor i made playing StarWars: tie-fighter

and if that doesn't count. um... ...Lu bu from dynasty warriors.

the charactor i made playing StarWars: tie-fighter

and if that doesn't count. um... ...Lu bu from dynasty warriors.


if you haven't, go read the Romance of the Three Kingdoms...

Lu Bu isn't as stupid or evil as Dynasty Warriors makes him out to be.. though he does have a Major problem with pride that results in effects similar to stupidity a lot of the time..

heck, the only true "villan" in dynasty warriors [or Romance of the Three Kingdoms for that matter] is Dong Zhuo..

The greatest video game villain?? Why, it's easy! The Covenant Prophets from Halo 2!:) :)

The greatest video game villain?? Why, it's easy! The Covenant Prophets from Halo 2!:) :)

Whatever... that game was tripe and the villains weren't particularly villainous.

Whatever... that game was tripe and the villains weren't particularly villainous.


What does "tripe" mean?:confused:

What does "tripe" mean?:confused:

in this context, roughly the same as "crap"

literaly? i think it's somethig supposedly edibal made from some part of a [cow?]'s digestive tract.

in this context, roughly the same as "crap"

literaly? i think it's somethig supposedly edibal made from some part of a [cow?]'s digestive tract.

Popular food of the late 40's in Britain, now consigned to dog food.

And yeah, in that context it basically means "rubbish" (it's a bit politer than "crap", though).

Popular food of the late 40's in Britain, now consigned to dog food.

And yeah, in that context it basically means "rubbish" (it's a bit politer than "crap", though).

actually, if you use the right tone, it can be infinatly less polite... of course, if you use the right tone, it's more polite than anything else in the context... i suppose it depends, really.

i guess i was accomidateing the lowest common denominator... not a good habit, i'll avoid it.


Seymore from FFX is another on my list of villans.. mostly because of his theam music.. and voice.. man is that combination disturbing..

Guild Wars: Factions seems to have one bad mother in the works. Shiro Tagachi kills some benevolent emperor than at least a dozen other people before finally being taken out.

G-Man
Half Life Series
That guy has one of the best voice actors I've ever heard, someone so bloody mysterious must be evil.

Sephiroth all the way! He may not be hard to beat in Final Fantasy 7, but have you tried to beat him in Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 yet? He's so much better. I've only beatten him once in KH1 and probly won't attempt to beat him in KH2 until I have the Ultima Wepon and on leval 90 something.

The Gould in SG1, ok the game was never released but they enslaved billions of people.:(

Ladders.

Ladders are the most evil force in the universe. I've been killed by ladders more times than bullets in computer games. The fools keep sending Nazis and zombies and blood sucking aliens. What they really should be doing is building more ladders.

The Gould in SG1, ok the game was never released but they enslaved billions of people.:(
Like in Animorphs.

Damn. Couple of my favorites I can't mention, because in their respective games it instantly isn't obvious they are villains, and I don't want to go spoiling anything.

Therefore I'll say Irenicus. Mostly because of Warner's excellent voice, he is one scary guy. The demonic twins from Icewind Dale II deserve to be mentioned too. It's not often a villain inspires sympathy the way these two do.

The tonberry is quite good...

Fine. Darth Traya. :p

Absolutely. Then... SHODAN. Then for humour value, I'm gonna say Dr Breen, simply because of the line "We simply don't have room on this enterprise for a rogue physicist!"

I'm sure more'll come to me.

in this context, roughly the same as "crap"


HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! Halo 2 was a great game!!!!!!! Say it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:upyours: Do this again, and I will declare war. Under the right circumstances.:mad:

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! Halo 2 was a great game!!!!!!! Say it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:upyours: Do this again, and I will declare war. Under the right circumstances.:mad:

I'm just voicing my honest opinion. The campaign was utter rubbish, with no really defining moments simply because it was always trying to create defining moments. And it didn't even have an ending. Euch...

And the multiplayer was also a bit poor, let's face it.

Kefka was pretty psycho too. He was like clown style psycho.

I'm just voicing my honest opinion. The campaign was utter rubbish, with no really defining moments simply because it was always trying to create defining moments. And it didn't even have an ending. Euch...

And the multiplayer was also a bit poor, let's face it.

I agree, almost entirely. I quite enjoyed all of the campaign, but I certainly agree it had no defining moments. potentially epic shootouts, like the tank-cruise across the bridge early on, were ruined by not peaking. And I never liked halo multiplayer. weapons balance doesn't exist in that game.

Damn. Couple of my favorites I can't mention, because in their respective games it instantly isn't obvious they are villains, and I don't want to go spoiling anything.

Therefore I'll say Irenicus. Mostly because of Warner's excellent voice, he is one scary guy. The demonic twins from Icewind Dale II deserve to be mentioned too. It's not often a villain inspires sympathy the way these two do.

Oh yes, Irenicus is unbelievable! I love some of his quotes:

"Silence dog, you have no purpose but to die by my hand!"

And his voice actor was excellent.

What about Ganndorf?

I'm just voicing my honest opinion. The campaign was utter rubbish, with no really defining moments simply because it was always trying to create defining moments. And it didn't even have an ending. Euch...

And the multiplayer was also a bit poor, let's face it.

I totally agree with you. *gives a cookie*

Oh yes, Irenicus is unbelievable! I love some of his quotes:

"Silence dog, you have no purpose but to die by my hand!"

And his voice actor was excellent.

He was pretty good. But then when you understand his character, he turns out to be nothing more than a spoilt brat that didn't get his way, so he has to kick, scream, kill people and generally be a bitch until he does. And then you kill him.

He was pretty good. But then when you understand his character, he turns out to be nothing more than a spoilt brat that didn't get his way, so he has to kick, scream, kill people and generally be a bitch until he does. And then you kill him.Yeah, but then you have to kill him again :)

Tonberry, hands down.

Master Tonberry's infinitely more evil. I fucking hate "Everyone's Grudge"!

Anyway, the best pure villain? Cefca from Final Fantasy VI. He's totally fucked up, since he wants to destroy absolutely everything rather than rule over existence. And he tortures a town full of kids for the fun of it, which is totally wrong on so many levels.

And Sephiroth... Well, he's not a villain so much as a hero-gone-psychotic. He lost his mind thanks to some totally wrong information he read in a basement, torched a rural town, killed almost all of its inhabitants, almost killed Tifa and Zack, stabbed Cloud multiple times, and "killed" himself by jumping into the lifestream to gain knowledge on just about everything. And then he goes and kills Aerith, which totally sucked. Acting out in such ways thanks to some misinterpretations makes you a loon, not a real villain.

I think we can all agree that the true villain of Final Fantasy VII was Hojo.

Yeah, but then you have to kill him again :)

And he steals your soul.

He was pretty good. But then when you understand his character, he turns out to be nothing more than a spoilt brat that didn't get his way, so he has to kick, scream, kill people and generally be a bitch until he does. And then you kill him.

I'll agree he had some childish traits in his personality ("I was kicked out of my home and now I want to destroy everything in the town. Oh, and I think I'll become immortal on the side too by stealing the soul of the God of Murder's child).

But he fits the psycho profile perfectly. He's incredibly intelligent and each conversation with him left me in awe at the character.

And his quotes are awesome.

Revolver Ocelot, the "puppetmaster" of the Metal Gear Solid Series.

Sarah Kerrigan from Starcraft/Broodwar

Good answer... I would have accepted the doctor from Doom III

Yeah, but then you have to kill him again :)
Yeah, but it's on familiar territory. :p

I really cheated in that game. I played my character through from the first game. He was a wizard, and in BG1, there are certain books lying around that give you stat increases. A wizard with 19 dexterity, constitution, and intelligence...meaning I could use level 9 spells. :p

Well, okay, I had won the game previously with another character, so that gives me the right to be a hack.

Revolver Ocelot, the "puppetmaster" of the Metal Gear Solid Series.

I lost all respect for him in Snake Eater when he does that cat call. Not because of the cat call itself, but because of the girly little motion he makes. And Big Boss is a pretty good villian. He does kick a tremendous amount of ass.

Yeah, but it's on familiar territory. :p

I really cheated in that game. I played my character through from the first game. He was a wizard, and in BG1, there are certain books lying around that give you stat increases. A wizard with 19 dexterity, constitution, and intelligence...meaning I could use level 9 spells. :p

Well, okay, I had won the game previously with another character, so that gives me the right to be a hack.Friends of mine creamed Irenicus while he was still talking to you in that underworld plane by just using "contingency" with "horrid wilting". I guess the villian really is outdone in the exposition. :p

Friends of mine creamed Irenicus while he was still talking to you in that underworld plane by just using "contingency" with "horrid wilting". I guess the villian really is outdone in the exposition. :p

I used -

Time stop
Greater malison x2 (I think? Might have been some other saving throw lowerer.)
Finger of death

Instakill. :p

Come to think of it, I may have softened him up first...I can't remember if Finger of Death has a hit point limit.

Absolutely. Then... SHODAN. Then for humour value, I'm gonna say Dr Breen, simply because of the line "We simply don't have room on this enterprise for a rogue physicist!"

I'm sure more'll come to me.

"Welcome to City 17. It's safer here."

I vote for Kane. Or maybe CABAL.

the nazis are the best enemies...plenty of em and always coming up with new diabolical plans. EVEN TODAY In 2006! @))^

the nazis are the best enemies...plenty of em and always coming up with new diabolical plans. EVEN TODAY In 2006! @))^
When lacking an enemy nobody will complain if you use the nazis. Or zombies.

When lacking an enemy nobody will complain if you use the nazis. Or zombies.

Or midgets.

I vote for Kane.
He can't actually die, I think, so that'd make him the greatest. He helped Stalin invade Europe and then started his own international terrorist brotherhood capable of fighting the entire planet or something.

He can't actually die, I think, so that'd make him the greatest. He helped Stalin invade Europe and then started his own international terrorist brotherhood capable of fighting the entire planet or something.

I just wish Westwood had had a chance to finish the story. Now we may never know.

Ganondorf, for sheer evilness.
Bowswer is a classic, but not my fave...

Yay! Sephiroth is winning..the ultimate bad guy!:D

Yay! Sephiroth is winning..the ultimate bad guy!:D

Bah. He couldn't hold a candle to even Beiloune.

What, no one has mentioned The Transcendant One from Planescape yet?
Damn, he was awesome.



Oh, or Timemaster from Freedom Force. He was cool too, especially his voice.


But in the end, I have to vote for...

Darth Traya. Thought provoking, non-cliche, and just plain awesome.

Revolver Ocelot, the ammount of plot twists that are a result of this man are enough to cause a normal person's head to explode.

Yeah, but then you have to kill him again :)

If we're going on number of times you have to kill the bastard, I think Seymour wins the battle (FFX). Those who've played it know how annoying he became after something like the fourth time you had to whoop him.

Though in overall personality and presentation... hm... I can't really think of any... all the villains in the games I've played were beaten, so they didn't impress me.

Treiya? Beaten, 3 to 1. Malak? Beaten, while ALLOWING him to bring himself to life from the other Jedi around him - pussy. Dr. Wily has Dr. Wily's Syndrome, meaning he builds weaknesses into his creations compulsively and makes it easy to defeat him. Jack of Blades was disappointing, as was the rest of Fable: TLC. Seth from Kings Field II was impressive and put up a good fight and made me proud to have beaten the hardass game - downside being that the character Seth was underdeveloped and you knew almost nothing about him. The end boss of FF2 was weird and seemed to have come out of nowhere, despite it being very gratifying to have killed him and beaten the game.


So in conclusion, my pick would be Mike Tyson, from Mike Tyson's Punchout. I never beat that bastard.

This poll sucks.
Why? Cuz you forgor gannondof.

This poll sucks.
Why? Cuz you forgor gannondof.

How many games was Gannondorf the villain in? I can't respect a villain that's tried and failed more than two times.

I lost all respect for him in Snake Eater when he does that cat call. Not because of the cat call itself, but because of the girly little motion he makes. And Big Boss is a pretty good villian. He does kick a tremendous amount of ass.

At least he matured as he grew up, and isn't a stereotypical bishie now, but a coneiving, backstabbing (not to mention deadly), SOB. And personally I think Big Boss belongs in the realm of anti-hero, based on what was revealed in Snake Eater.

The Grunts from Halo, obviously. They are hilarious!

Now, if this poll was about the most annoying video game villains, I would have to say the Flood, again, from Halo. I hate those goddamned, tentacled things.

Most annoying? Interesting... I'd have to say Seymour again.

Wait, what?
Seriously why do people think that queen is so badass?

She pretty much obliterated everyone in her way, that must be why.

Since Jenova isn't on here, I'm picking Sephiroth.

And Sephiroth... Well, he's not a villain so much as a hero-gone-psychotic. He lost his mind thanks to some totally wrong information he read in a basement, torched a rural town, killed almost all of its inhabitants, almost killed Tifa and Zack, stabbed Cloud multiple times, and "killed" himself by jumping into the lifestream to gain knowledge on just about everything. And then he goes and kills Aerith, which totally sucked. Acting out in such ways thanks to some misinterpretations makes you a loon, not a real villain.

I think we can all agree that the true villain of Final Fantasy VII was Hojo.
Nuhuh. The True villain was Jenova. It drove Sephiroth, Cloud and Hojo to mere puppethood as part of its campaign to become God, it killed President Shinra, almost killed Tseng and speared Aerith, not to mention hundreds of Hojo's little experiments and quite a few Shinra guards in both the building and the boat from Junon, took the black materia and enabled meteor to be summoned. You fight it three times during the game and three times at the climax. And even then it's not dead.