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I prefer the city. theres nothing in the countryside.
You?

I prefer countryside. There's no citydwellers in the countryside.

Is there going to a poll, like when we had this thread two months ago?

I prefer cities, but that's not to say that scented country air's a bad thing every once in a while.

Islands. There's no cityslickers or country bumpkins on freakin' islands.

I prefer the city. theres nothing in the countryside.
You?

Depends. The way I RP Pythogrian cities? Then I pick CITY!

American/Canadian Cities?

Countryside, or small-town.

Well I was gonna say countryside, but then I rembered many people in the countryside can't get broadband, so I gotta go with City.

Pr0n on 56K = Arghh. I rember those days with horror.

I prefer countryside. There's no citydwellers in the countryside.

Is there going to a poll, like when we had this thread two months ago?
no. polls are teh gay.

I prefer the people and nightlife in cities; the scenery and relaxed atmosphere are what bring me back to country life every so often though.

Depends. The way I RP Pythogrian cities? Then I pick CITY!

American/Canadian Cities?

Countryside, or small-town.
What about European Cities?

City. Based on my experience, there's everything within 4 blocks...including 5 starbucks.

Well I was gonna say countryside, but then I rembered many people in the countryside can't get broadband, so I gotta go with City.

Pr0n on 56K = Arghh. I rember those days with horror.

You can get satellite broadband. Go live in the country.

Well I was gonna say countryside, but then I rembered many people in the countryside can't get broadband, so I gotta go with City.
BT supply broadband to almost everywhere in England.

no. polls are teh gay.
Jolt won't let me make polls. Should I read something into that?

Country

its more relaxing, you can walk your dog in fields (instead of a "mingin" park), in the summa all the feilds look beautiful...there are just soo many reasons.

In the city you have pollution, traffic, mingin parks, people...ect. ect.

AND lots goes on in the countryside so dont say that nuffin does if you've neva lived there ;) but i've jus dissed citys...:headbang: i'm such a hypocrite

:)

Well I was gonna say countryside, but then I rembered many people in the countryside can't get broadband, so I gotta go with City.

Pr0n on 56K = Arghh. I rember those days with horror.
I know. In poland its even worse in the countryside, as you can only get internet acess in the cities, and their innermost rings of suburbs.

City. Based on my experience, there's everything within 4 blocks...including 5 starbucks.

is that what u rly want????

coffee???

:mad: coffee is bad 4 u!!!

is that what u rly want????

coffee???

:mad: coffee is bad 4 u!!!
So is using bad grammar. You don't want the grammar nazis to take you to their concentration camps.

is that what u rly want????

coffee???

:mad: coffee is bad 4 u!!!
I so is your grammar.

is that what u rly want????

coffee???

:mad: coffee is bad 4 u!!!

So are snakes, field mice, ticks, spiders, wolves, coyotes, bears, tornadoes...

*goes on and on about the cons of living in the middle of nowhere*

I need the city. I've come to that realization after being forced by circumstance to live in a tiny town on a tiny island. I need the smog, I need the noise, I need the ability to leave the house at night and actually have someplace to go. The country is ok for a visit, or a vacation, but living in it is really not for me.

is that what u rly want????

coffee???

:mad: coffee is bad 4 u!!!
So is internet speak.

Show me at least three independent studies that link coffee to any "serious" health risks, and I'll....well, to be honest, I'll probably just roll my eyes and sip my cafe au lait and wonder how people would even socialize around here without the independent coffee house scene.

So are snakes, field mice, ticks, spiders, wolves, coyotes, bears, tornadoes...

*goes on and on about the cons of living in the middle of nowhere*
We have snakes, ticks, spiders, coyotes, and tornadoes here in the city.

I resent your unintentional insinuation.

I need the ability to leave the house at night and actually have someplace to go.
What's wrong with wandering around woodland and watching barn owls hunt? (Warning: don't try this when there's no moon - woodland can be full of spiky and slippery things.)

So are snakes, field mice, ticks, spiders, wolves, coyotes, bears, tornadoes...

*goes on and on about the cons of living in the middle of nowhere*
Gangsters, drug dealers, hookers, garbage, raw sewage, smog, lots of loud noises, lots of people, hobos, and that's just getting started.

Are you suggesting there are no animals within a city? Because there's bears - just passing through though -, snakes, spiders, dogs, coyotes, raccons, birds - that smash into windows -, cats - lots of them, the ally cat type -, pidgeons, seagulls, and it just gets worse.

Simonist']We have snakes, ticks, spiders, coyotes, and tornadoes here in the city.

I resent your unintentional insinuation.
sure. in the zoo.

What's wrong with wandering around woodland and watching barn owls hunt? (Warning: don't try this when there's no moon - woodland can be full of spiky and slippery things.)

Because there's no bartender dispensing scotch, no midnight bowling, no dancing, etc, etc.

If I wanted to watch animals eat, I'd go to the city zoo.

I prefer the city. theres nothing in the countryside.
You?
There's fewer trees in cities, silly.

I'm a city person, but I don't mind living in a more rural area for a few weeks, if I have something to do.

Gangsters, drug dealers, hookers, garbage, raw sewage, smog, lots of loud noises, lots of people, hobos, and that's just getting started.

Are you suggesting there are no animals within a city? Because there's bears - just passing through though -, snakes, spiders, dogs, coyotes, raccons, birds - that smash into windows -, cats - lots of them, the ally cat type -, pidgeons, seagulls, and it just gets worse.
lots of people...
You know some people think thats a good thing.

... I need the ability to leave the house at night and actually have someplace to go.
I have a need and actually have someplace to go in the middle of the night.
Har, har, har. :p

There's fewer trees in cities, silly.

I'm a city person, but I don't mind living in a more rural area for a few weeks, if I have something to do.
I am not a tree hugger.

sure. in the zoo.
No, I live in the Kansas City area. They're all over. Don't judge unless you know the facts.

And how would we contain tornadoes in the zoo, Swil?

You know some people think thats a good thing.
Its not a good or bad thing, it depends on the people.

Simonist']So is internet speak.

Show me at least three independent studies that link coffee to any "serious" health risks, and I'll....well, to be honest, I'll probably just roll my eyes and sip my cafe au lait and wonder how people would even socialize around here without the independent coffee house scene.
I know no-one who socialises with coffee houses. Here, socialising is done with some form a dangerous and addictive drug, or not at all! Call yourself a citydweller - Hmph! :p

Also, Swilatia - what's with the green posting? Is it a symbol of some cult or other and, more importantly, can I get in on the ground floor?

Look, I can do it too!

sure. in the zoo.

And in the cities running around wild..

So is using bad grammar. You don't want the grammar nazis to take you to their concentration camps.
You mean concentration THREADS, don't you.

I know no-one who socialises with coffee houses. Here, socialising is done with some form a dangerous and addictive drug, or not at all! Call yourself a citydweller - Hmph! :p
Well we have that crowd too, but I'm a recovering cocaine addict, so I thought that continuing to run with the drug crowd in my metro would probably be counterproductive....but the coffee house kids, they're pretty cool. Most of them are in a similar position as I am, anyway.

You mean concentration THREADS, don't you.
Nah, we actually turn up at their houses at 3am and drag them off to real camps. It's a huge government conspiracy to get rid of GWB. Cheney thought it up.

Simonist']We have snakes, ticks, spiders, coyotes, and tornadoes here in the city.

I resent your unintentional insinuation.

Yeah, I know. But at least in a city (in all of the ones I've lived in, anyway), those animals appear with far less frequency.

I had to live in the middle of nowhere once, and not a day went by where I didn't see a gigantic brown spider or a copperhead snake in the yard. There were also field mice all over the place.

I now live in a neighborhood in a small town, and I've only seen one snake in the past six years. I see a spider maybe once a week in my house, and even then, said spiders are very small (not black widows, gladly). And I've only seen one rat, and it's since been killed.

In the last city I live in, I never saw a single snake, there was one spider that I can remember, and mice/rats were unheard of.

I'm just going by my experience in the country and various towns/cities I've lived in. I've had far worse luck with wild animals in the country than in urban areas.

I am not a tree hugger.Me neither, but they are a nice alternative to grey buildings. ;)

Simonist']Well we have that crowd too, but I'm a recovering cocaine addict, so I thought that continuing to run with the drug crowd in my metro would probably be counterproductive....but the coffee house kids, they're pretty cool. Most of them are in a similar position as I am, anyway.
Bah, damn you for having been there and done that! DAMN YOUUU!

Anyway, I was going to put alcohol in white letters because coke is too expensive to gather a real social crowd of us poor students.

Definitely countryside. Especially where I live because I can either stay here or drive for 10 minutes and be in the city. Though why anyone would want to be in the city, I don't know.

I have a need and actually have someplace to go in the middle of the night.
Har, har, har. :p

What? I'm stuck in a small town that almost literally rolls up the sidwalks at 10 PM. What's wrong with wanting something to do outside the house late at night? Something unrelated to being outside that is. Being outside at night is slightly overrated. It's cold at night, and, outside of a city, it's very dark, after a few minutes it looses its luster, and after it being the only option for more than a year it looses everything else. ;)

I prefer the city. theres nothing in the countryside.
You?
Over where I live, the city.
Over where yo live, they are both beautiful (especially Crakow and around Crakow).

Yeah, I know. But at least in a city (in all of the ones I've lived in, anyway), those animals appear with far less frequency.

I had to live in the middle of nowhere once, and not a day went by where I didn't see a gigantic brown spider or a copperhead snake in the yard. There were also field mice all over the place.

I now live in a neighborhood in a small town, and I've only seen one snake in the past six years. I see a spider maybe once a week in my house, and even then, said spiders are very small (not black widows, gladly). And I've only seen one rat, and it's since been killed.

In the last city I live in, I never saw a single snake, there was one spider that I can remember, and mice/rats were unheard of.

I'm just going by my experience in the country and various towns/cities I've lived in. I've had far worse luck with wild animals in the country than in urban areas.
I know, they do occur less frequently, and thank God for that. We have property down in the middle of nowhere in the Ozarks, and while it's great to get away from the city and just hang around with nature and canoe and such, the critters really irk me. And spiders really kinda creep me out. But we have this snake that lives under or around the barn out there, he's black and gotta be about three feet long. He's the shit. The most chill snake you'll ever see.

I guess I never actually picked between city and countryside.....well, for living I choose city, but for enjoying I choose country.

Simonist']I know, they do occur less frequently, and thank God for that. We have property down in the middle of nowhere in the Ozarks, and while it's great to get away from the city and just hang around with nature and canoe and such, the critters really irk me. And spiders really kinda creep me out. But we have this snake that lives under or around the barn out there, he's black and gotta be about three feet long. He's the shit. The most chill snake you'll ever see.

I guess I never actually picked between city and countryside.....well, for living I choose city, but for enjoying I choose country.

I don't mind snakes unless they're aggressive... Which is copperheads all over. Kill them before they kill you --- that's just how it goes with them.

Well, I was bored to death when I lived in the country, so... :p

Me neither, but they are a nice alternative to grey buildings. ;)

Not all bouldings in warsaw are grey. in fact, most buildings in warsaw arent.

also to anyone inquring about the green posts, it is a cult symbol. The main shrine is in a secret annex somewhere in warsaw, hidden away from unbelievers.

Over where I live, the city.
Over where yo live, they are both beautiful (especially Crakow and around Crakow).

and where do you live?

Not all bouldings in warsaw are grey. in fact, most buildings in warsaw arent.

also to anyone inquring about the green posts, it is a cult symbol. The main shrine is in a secret annex somewhere in warsaw, hidden away from unbelievers.
:D:D:D:D:D
I BELIEEEEVE!!!

Me neither, but they are a nice alternative to grey buildings.
Wrong. Concrete and steel are a much better alternative.
The desolate industrial atmosphere and the commerical temples, where people are packed into buildings like fermenting Swedish fish, keeps me chugging along every day of the week! Toot, toot! :)
What? I'm stuck in a small town that almost literally rolls up the sidwalks at 10 PM. What's wrong with wanting something to do outside the house late at night? Something unrelated to being outside that is. Being outside at night is slightly overrated. It's cold at night, and, outside of a city, it's very dark, after a few minutes it looses its luster, and after it being the only option for more than a year it looses everything else.
I was merely making an outhouse joke! ( Which I don't have at my house, but at my cabin. ) I thought it was so clever...

Well, the main problem you're having is lack of people, oh - and other important elements - like beer and fire. Since I'm on an island, and I'm not really in 'the country' per se, we lack mosquitoes and such thanks to the salt water. XD

i dont know how people live in the city. especially the big city where people live their whole lives in apartments (flats)

ive always lived in small towns or rural areas. i liked living in the middle of town when town was under 10,000 people. that gives you quick access to stores and entertainment without the complications of big city life.

now i live in the middle of no where and the only downside is that my internet connection is mindbogglingly slow (21.6kbps). otherwise its great. i never have to close my curtains, i opened the windows 2 weeks ago and i wont close them again until october. i have no neighbors to worry about bothering or being bothered by. i dont pay for water, trash, sewer, etc.

"All things good on this Earth flow into the City..."

Pericles of Athens

;)

Wrong. Concrete and steel are a much better alternative.
The desolate industrial atmosphere and the commerical temples, where people are packed into buildings like fermenting Swedish fish, keeps me chugging along every day of the week! Toot, toot! :)

I was merely making an outhouse joke! ( Which I don't have at my house, but at my cabin. ) I thought it was so clever...

Well, the main problem you're having is lack of people, oh - and other important elements - like beer and fire. Since I'm on an island, and I'm not really in 'the country' per se, we lack mosquitoes and such thanks to the salt water. XD

I'm on an island too. And, while we don't get mosquitos, the no-see-ems are horrible in the late spring.

i dont know how people live in the city. especially the big city where people live their whole lives in apartments (flats)

I always liked apartments and condominiums more than regular houses.

Country side, you have more rights outside city limits and I love the look of nature more than most citys...just not to far from a city.

In North America I prefer the countryside, but in Europe I prefer cities. I've spent some time in the city and the countryside on both continents. I was raised on a farm in Michigan, so that's probably why I prefer the countryside over here, but 99% of the time I spent in Europe (about 2.5 yrs) was spent in the cities, mostly a smaller town north of Frankfurt am Main.

Cities. All the way. I grew up partly in a small town and partly in an even smaller village, and I hated it.
I loved living in Leipzig, I adored Montreal, and I enjoy Dublin now.

I'm on an island too. And, while we don't get mosquitos, the no-see-ems are horrible in the late spring.
Off-topic: Love that song in your location.
On-topic: I haven't noticed any no-see-ems, but at the moment I smell like burnt. We just had a fire, and my eyes sting. Its like my invisible force field, rawr!

Island living has its plus sides. Everyone's close to one-another, so its pretty much party everyday. For swimming its great, too. Its a different life, but I think that people are made, or become, accostomed to one way or another, and thrive best in that atmosphere.

Cities. All the way. I grew up partly in a small town and partly in an even smaller village, and I hated it.
I loved living in Leipzig, I adored Montreal, and I enjoy Dublin now.
I wonder, have you ever been to warsaw?

right now since I am homeschooling, the city is more convienient. I do prefer not to be so darn close to my neighbors though. I am looking into property just outside the east end of the city, I will have 4 or 5 acres, which is enough, and also be only 15 minutes from the city, which won't be too far to go on field trips whenever the mood strikes us.

I wonder, have you ever been to warsaw?

No

No
Well, its a great city i can tell you that.

I can see 3 houses from my front porch. I feel closed in.

I like living close to a city for the cultural areas, If they just didn't have so many people....

Take the middle ground answer and pick Saskatoon.

Small city, prefer 16,000 or under.

Simonist']So is internet speak.

Show me at least three independent studies that link coffee to any "serious" health risks, and I'll....well, to be honest, I'll probably just roll my eyes and sip my cafe au lait and wonder how people would even socialize around here without the independent coffee house scene.
yep...this made my night.

I think when people on here say "countryside", they mean something totally different from me. My "countryside" would be considered fairly urban to most.
that said, I love the city. the only downside is I miss the stars at night and a few other things like that. But its always only a quick drive away.

No cities, please. I've had enough of them. I'd like a small to medium-size town with some amenities (decent hospital, library, good bookstore, movie theater) that's within a two-three hour drive of a city, in case I need something like a good deli.

I've lived in very, very urban areas, very, very rural areas, and a few places in between, and have come to the conclusion that the best place for me to live is a small-to-medium-sized town. Small enough that one can see the stars at night and not be woken up by headlights outside one's window; large enough to have a good library, a movie theatre, and people to socialize with. I daydream about moving back to a cozy little New England town one of these days.

I prefer the city. theres nothing in the countryside.
You?

Countryside, Swilatia, interesting thread, you should have made a public poll to see the actual preferances and more person would have probably voted on the poll than posted on the thread, which has done quite well.

yep...this made my night.

I think when people on here say "countryside", they mean something totally different from me. My "countryside" would be considered fairly urban to most.
that said, I love the city. the only downside is I miss the stars at night and a few other things like that. But its always only a quick drive away.
Ditto-ed. I live in the suburbs of a very sprawled metro area, as I've said before, and the best thing about it is that within a half hour drive (45 minutes at most, depending on the direction) I can have BOTH the big city AND the "countryside" where you can see practically no houses, and the sky is absolutely bloody clear at night.

'Course, our city doesn't have much of a pollution problem, like everybody assumes a city ought to have, and our expansive spread easily allows that I can be proud to be a Kansas Citian, or I can be proud of the actual city in which I live (which I'd rather not state). It's a very flexible, bi-state network I have going for me here.

no. polls are teh gay.
:cool:




Anyways I prefer the city

I prefer the countryside. Small towns. I get lost in big cities. And those aren't exactly the best places to get lost in....

I also like having clean air, being able to take my dog for a walk with out having to clean up after her, and not looking like a total 'dude' when hunting. (Went to Minnesota once. City-slickers can't hunt worth a damn.)

Cities

Pros:
Easy access to goods and services. Nightlife.

Cons:
Yuppies. Lots of people/crowds. Pollution.

Countryside

Pros:
Quiet.

Cons:
Bible-bashin' fundies and rednecks. Nothing to do.

Cities win.


Islands. There's no cityslickers or country bumpkins on freakin' islands.

I'll pass on those too. Tasmania scares me.

I'm such a city boy.

Cities win.

Even though you're just as likely to get lung cancer jogging everyday in New York City as you are smoking a pack of cigs a day in Nowhere, North Dakota?

Well, its a great city i can tell you that.
Yeah. I loved the hotel we stayed in. Mafia's men with way too big guns on every floor...Air so polluted everyone coughed nasty black stuff out of their throats. Great communist architecture.

Not really, been there twice and enjoyed it. Not one of my favourite European cities, but an interesting place nevertheless.

Edit: I forgot to answer the original question. City. But not in the centre.

i prefer the countryside. there's nothing in the city.

=^^=
.../\...

Even though you're just as likely to get lung cancer jogging everyday in New York City as you are smoking a pack of cigs a day in Nowhere, North Dakota?

I don't live in New York City. And i've never been to North Dakota, for that matter.

I prefer the city. theres nothing in the countryside.
You?
i like the city, but do like the space of the countryside... it depends where you live in the city, and also how easy it is to get out and see the countryside.

here is perfect: live in a city of about 450,000, M3 motorway (to london) just 5 minutes down the road, M27 motorway 10 minutes the other way (off towards glitziness), a 400 acre, 8-centuries-old park down the end of the road, 15 minute walk to the train station, 10 minutes to the local shops and 30 to the city centre, 20 mins walk to the hospital and 15 to the university, along with one 450 year old grammar school, a secondary shcool, primary, and college all within about 5 minutes walk.

it rocks here :)
i love the small-sized city :fluffle:

we also got the ports and stuff too woot
edit: and 15 mins drive to the airport :P

I don't live in New York City. And i've never been to North Dakota, for that matter.


Living in Melbourne (one of the most 'livable' cities in the world) is a bit different from living in NY.

Living in Melbourne (one of the most 'livable' cities in the world) is a bit different from living in NY.

Yeah.

(Though I don't really get that most 'livable' tag. It's not really better than any other Australian city.)

Countryside tends to make me feel claustrophobic. You're completely dependant on your car to get around, and I hate that. I prefer to live somewhere where I can walk anywhere I need. Like Dublin.

it rocks here :)
i love the small-sized city :fluffle:

IMO (most) English cities are like oversized suburbans.

edit: which can be rather nice.

Well, then.

I dislike cities.

They make me gag (from the air).
They are claustrophobic.
They facilitate the rapid spread of disease.
The aesthetics of cities are purely mind-boggling. Ugly as all get out. Not to mention the fact that they just aren't natural (Captain Obvious uniform).
And, finally, I only have to put up with the idiots I am very displeased to call my fellow man when I choose to.

I enjoy the freedom of country-living. The quiet. The complete lack of crime (until your neighbor's son hits your mailbox while driving home too fast after he hits a patch of ice. But that's more accident and less crime). The self-sufficiency. Everyone knowing your name and always being kind (You want to go where ev'rybody knows your name/And they're always glad ya came/You wanna be where you can see/The troubles are all the same/You wanna be where ev'rybody knows your name [/cheers]). And, you always have the choice of going into a larger town if you want to go shopping.

Oh. And horse-back riding. And I get to see wolves and bears and mountain lion (tracks) and moose and elk (in your front yard!) and deer....

Well, I grew up in a small town, but have been living in a big city now for over 11 years (with another year-long stint in a small town in between).

I think I could live pretty much anywhere without hating it, I'm remarkably adaptable that way.

I'm not even sure what I prefer - I would *never* want to move back to my hometown again, but I'm very much one for grand scenery, so if I ever come upon the house of my dreams somewhere around, say, Moab, Utah, I may just move there in a flash (then again it's Moab, Utah, so yeah, who knows).

But mostly I prefer city living. I'd rather have a most fabulous apartment than a most fabulous house, actually. Plus cafés and things like that.

And if I ever move away from the over hundred movie theaters here, screening about every movie there is, in its original language, I may just die of withdrawal, so yeah. *shudders*

IMO (most) English cities are like oversized suburbans.

edit: which can be rather nice.
quite true, really, but i like em

the soton-portsmouth (two cities about 20 minutes from each other, forcibly seperated by green belt) connurbation is well over a million though

I like big cities, it's full of life of occupation, and you can live without a car.

But countryside is nice for holidays.

I like big cities, it's full of life of occupation, and you can live without a car.

probably can in france where you have good public transport :(

stupid britain :rolleyes:

quite true, really, but i like em

No wonder, the place you described sounds very nice. The suburban feeling comes from the flat skyline of English cities.

probably can in france where you have good public transport :(

stupid britain :rolleyes:

Yeah, it's not privatised yet, and we still have a good quality transport network.

But they are speaking of privatising it, and I fear the worse :( :(

probably can in france where you have good public transport :(

stupid britain :rolleyes:
When they are not on strike ;)

Countryside tends to make me feel claustrophobic.
Does this make sense to anyone? Really, check this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgG7MTU2wo&search=Wide%20Open%20Spaces) out.

Does this make sense to anyone?
Actually, it does.

Actually, it does.
Strange. It obviously doesn't to me. The countryside is not crowded, nor is it confining.
Then again, I get around other ways than by car or on foot.

Well I was gonna say countryside, but then I rembered many people in the countryside can't get broadband, so I gotta go with City.

Pr0n on 56K = Arghh. I rember those days with horror.

Wellhey i live in the country and have broadband - faster than ma pals in the town and city in fact:p

Strange. It obviously doesn't to me. The countryside is not crowded, nor is it confining.
Then again, I get around other ways than by car or on foot.
Well, claustrophobic is not a proper word for the feeling (I guess) Cabra means. If you are all alone in the middle of nowhere and the only way to get out of there is to walk an hour after hour you can get claustrophobic feelings. Especially during the night.

Countryside. I lived in London for four years at uni. Cities are a pain in the arse; you know it's only three miles down the road, but it's so far away! And all those bloody people milling around like the Legions of the Damned and generally making a noise, a mess and getting in the way!

Really, you only need two buildings within five miles; telephone exchange (ADSL) and supermarket (because cycling a long way to the shops would be dull).

So long as work is less than about ten miles away it's fine.

I live in a village on a small Island. I love it, love that its safe and people are friendly and polite. I like to walk in the countryside and can go to places where I can be alone, I have been to cities, whilst I like to visit, having traveled on the unerground in London at rush hour, only mad people would choose to live like that...strange smelly people who invade your personal space and the overwhelming feeling of menace...I would like to be able to have a flat in a nice area of a city, and have enough money to eat in nice places and shop in nice shops...but I prefer living my life as it is now, knowing the people that live in my road, saying hello to people that you meet when you are out walking and being able to park. The air tastes sweet, the flowers grow on the road side and I can see the stars at night...but there are night clubs, there are bars and restaurants, and there are things going on...Jude Law brings his kids here, Kate MOss comes here, Madonna comes here...It's not a backwater from hell...its a nice place, with nice people and beautiful scenery to boot.

If you are all alone in the middle of nowhere and the only way to get out of there is to walk an hour after hour you can get claustrophobic feelings. Especially during the night.
I'm quite certain Cabra is referring to the confining aspects in the meaning of the word "claustrophobic", in the sense that one is confined to "wide open spaces" as the Dixie Chicks put it. However, I've hiked respectable distances at night and I can't relate. The problems come when there is no moon, there is cloud cover, lack of torch ( in the broadest sense of the word ), not knowing exactly where you are ( one can look up and see the "silouettes" of trees against the night sky under most conditions ), and just plain being afraid of the dark. I'm not saying I don't get spooked - as I have been thanks to many a skunk - but I've never been mugged out in the country or mauled by a bear. I just don't find the country confining, and I do believe I've made it clear that I agree with the Dixie Chicks.

Not to mention, concrete is bad on the knees, its better to walk on dirt.
Which reminds me: Country roads beat city streets any day.

Well, claustrophobic is not a proper word for the feeling (I guess) Cabra means. If you are all alone in the middle of nowhere and the only way to get out of there is to walk an hour after hour you can get claustrophobic feelings. Especially during the night.

That's pretty much it.
I never found landscapes very appealing for more than a few minutes, and having to calculate longer periods of time to get to places where I want to be (library, bookshop, cinema, theatre, or just some shopping) makes me feel imprisoned.

I'm quite certain Cabra is referring to the confining aspects in the meaning of the word "claustrophobic", in the sense that one is confined to "wide open spaces" as the Dixie Chicks put it. However, I've hiked respectable distances at night and I can't relate. The problems come when there is no moon, there is cloud cover, lack of torch ( in the broadest sense of the word ), not knowing exactly where you are ( one can look up and see the "silouettes" of trees against the night sky under most conditions ), and just plain being afraid of the dark. I'm not saying I don't get spooked - as I have been thanks to many a skunk - but I've never been mugged out in the country or mauled by a bear. I just don't find the country confining, and I do believe I've made it clear that I agree with the Dixie Chicks.

Not to mention, concrete is bad on the knees, its better to walk on dirt.
Which reminds me: Country roads beat city streets any day.

No, actually I'm talking about the confining aspects concerning my favourite activities. Most of them aren't readily available anywhere in an empty countryside...

No, actually I'm talking about the confining aspects concerning my favourite activities. Most of them aren't readily available anywhere in an empty countryside...
What I was attempting to express was that you feel confined in what you feel as emptiness ( no fun actitvites, et cetera ).

I'm quite certain Cabra is referring to the confining aspects in the meaning of the word "claustrophobic", in the sense that one is confined to "wide open spaces" as the Dixie Chicks put it. However, I've hiked respectable distances at night and I can't relate. The problems come when there is no moon, there is cloud cover, lack of torch ( in the broadest sense of the word ), not knowing exactly where you are ( one can look up and see the "silouettes" of trees against the night sky under most conditions ), and just plain being afraid of the dark. I'm not saying I don't get spooked - as I have been thanks to many a skunk - but I've never been mugged out in the country or mauled by a bear. I just don't find the country confining, and I do believe I've made it clear that I agree with the Dixie Chicks.

Not to mention, concrete is bad on the knees, its better to walk on dirt.
Which reminds me: Country roads beat city streets any day.
Ah, I didn't even notice the link. I'll check it in a minute. Anyway, sometimes when I spend time alone in our cabin, surrounded by lakes and forest, I feel trapped, cut out of the civilized world. Usually it just feels cosy but sometimes, especially during the autumn when the nights are often completely black, the forest is like a wall. And it is confining. But that's just my experience, I'm not surprised if noone knows what I'm talking about. :)

Hmm. I'm not sure yet. I currently live in the city.. However, in the future I can see myself living in the countryside. So yea, dunno.

Ah, I didn't even notice the link. I'll check it in a minute.
I hope the link works, as I'm at the library. It didn't play for me. It could be terrible, but on the radio it sounded worthy enough to be remembered. :p

i prefer the countryside. there's nothing in the city.

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No, young one, there EVERYTHING in the city.

Well, almost everything.

I'd say the 'Burbs like i live in now half way between town and country.:p

There seems to be some discrepancy about what exactly is a city. PM claims his town of 450k is a "small town" where to me that would be a city. But then, I'm used to towns of <50k.

is that what u rly want????

coffee???

:mad: coffee is bad 4 u!!!

Research has found that coffee might actually be good for you.
Or was that chocolate? Or both?

COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!

There seems to be some discrepancy about what exactly is a city. PM claims his town of 450k is a "small town" where to me that would be a city. But then, I'm used to towns of >50k.
This PM knows nothing.
Town is 20,000 a city is 50,000.:p

Yeah, it's not privatised yet, and we still have a good quality transport network.

But they are speaking of privatising it, and I fear the worse :( :(
I say it should be privatised. The new york strikes showed us that making strikes illegal does not work.

This PM knows nothing.
Town is 20,000 a city is 50,000.:p
No sir, a city 100K or more people.

No sir, a city 100K or more people.

I could agree with that.

This PM knows nothing.
Town is 20,000 a city is 50,000.:p
Completely different in the UK. Town is when you get a town charter, city is when you get a city charter. Smallest city in Britain has a population of about 5000, while the largest village has a population of 15000.

I'd prefer right on the outer edge of the suburbs. Currently I'm in a medium-sized village about 5 miles from a crappy medium-sized town. There's jack-shit to do. I quite like where I live in Leicester - it's a very built up area, but also quite quiet, and it's a half hour walk from the city centre. My ideal place to live would be the suburbs of Nottingham - the public transport system there is great, and Nottingham's got some good nightlife, and a good music scene.

No sir, a city 100K or more people.
No way Jose.

No way Jose.

Internationally, it is.

Internationally, it is.

That's on population, rather than services, though.

Completely different in the UK. Town is when you get a town charter, city is when you get a city charter. Smallest city in Britain has a population of about 5000, while the largest village has a population of 15000.

In Michigan you have townships, charter townships, villages, and cities. Townships have very little authority and taxing ability. Charter townships have margially more authority and more streamlined adminstration, and are harder for a city to annex. Townships are can contain several unincorporated communities, and act as the governing agent for these.

Villages are small muncipalities that have home rule powers, unlike the statutory powers of counties and townships. Villages exist independently of townships, although someone who lives in a village is taxed by both the township and village and votes in elections for both. Villages can sometimes exist in two counties as well as multiple townships.

Cities are incorporated under home rule charters much like villages. The biggest differences are that while villages and townships cooperate in providing services, cities go it alone as cities and townships can't be colocated.

Anyway, here we tend towards a large number of smaller to medium cities unlike our Canadian neighbors who tend towards a smaller number of larger urban areas. I grew up in a village of 400 people and currently live in a city of 20,000.

So you can see the need for a set definition of city in this context. A city in Michigan could have only a couple of thousand people, and I think most people here (especially from urban areas) wouldn't consider that a city. In fact, most people from urban areas wouldn't even consider the city I live in to be a city.

I'd say the 'Burbs like i live in now half way between town and country.:p
Ahh.. Personally I don't like the inbetween places. Would rather be on a farm in the 'Naki or living in town.

I didn't know people actually WANTED to live in the city. I much perfer the country. Not like wayyyyyy out where theres nobody there, but just far enough out that I can't quite see my neighbor's houses from mine (separated by woods, not just becuase of distance alone). What can I say, I like to have sex outside.

I didn't know people actually WANTED to live in the city. I much perfer the country. Not like wayyyyyy out where theres nobody there, but just far enough out that I can't quite see my neighbor's houses from mine (separated by woods, not just becuase of distance alone). What can I say, I like to have sex outside.

I grew up in the country, but there is something to be said for the city. When I lived in Germany I didn't need a car, I didn't have to drive for 20 mins to go buy a gallon of milk, and there were things to do all of the time. Of course, I did miss being able to go out my back door and target shoot whenever I wanted, but there are trade-offs to everything.

Busy cities tend to freak me out. I can't stand NY. I have like a social anxiaty disorder where I start getting uber paranoid if theres too many people around that I don't know, it overwhelms me when I'm in a larger city. Besides, I like driving. Out in the country you can just go out there and do like 120 on the highways to get your gallon of milk and it wont take close to 20 minutes... :)

Busy cities tend to freak me out. I can't stand NY. I have like a social anxiaty disorder where I start getting uber paranoid if theres too many people around that I don't know, it overwhelms me when I'm in a larger city. Besides, I like driving. Out in the country you can just go out there and do like 120 on the highways to get your gallon of milk and it wont take close to 20 minutes... :)

You get used to the busyness. I was really nervous all of the time when I first moved to a city (not nearly the size of NY, that's an entirely different story) but eventually I stopped worrying that everyone was going to shank me. But then, that was a European city, which are much safer than our own. I still get that old nervousness whenever I go to Detroit or Flint.

I like driving too, I just don't like the $500 or so I spend on my car every month (payment, insurance, gas).

Countryside all day, cain't stand living in a city since i moved here to go to college and it aint even a big city, we need to keep the countryside clean and beautiful and not let the city encroach on the country and ruin our evrironment and spreading concrete everywhere.

" i can see the concrete a slowly creeping, lord take me and mine before that comes"

There seems to be some discrepancy about what exactly is a city. PM claims his town of 450k is a "small town" where to me that would be a city. But then, I'm used to towns of <50k.

hell, my town is just pushing 5000 and growning and i was like damn this is getting too crowded

I'd say the 'Burbs like i live in now half way between town and country.:p
That counts as country in this thread.

I live on the shore, so I'm going to say niether city/countryside.

I like it here best.

Busy cities tend to freak me out. I can't stand NY. I have like a social anxiaty disorder where I start getting uber paranoid if theres too many people around that I don't know, it overwhelms me when I'm in a larger city. Besides, I like driving. Out in the country you can just go out there and do like 120 on the highways to get your gallon of milk and it wont take close to 20 minutes... :)
I can't stand NY either, to tell the truth, There just too much litter there. Warsaw is better.

if i was rich, i would like the city because i would show off my pimpin cars and hugemungous house. but, being poor that i am, i would prefer the quiet shores of some deserted island...

I prefer right outside the city, like 5 minutes out.

Internationally, it is.
Yeah sure but relativly speaking that doesn't mean anything, a city is still a city.

Yeah sure but relativly speaking that doesn't mean anything, a city is still a city.
As far as I know the density of population is more important than the population.

I live on the shore, so I'm going to say niether city/countryside.

I like it here best.

Yep, shore is best by far. With the city in the background.
Such a pity I can't move there myself... unless Dublin Bus drastically improves its services, I wouldn't be able to get to work

That counts as country in this thread.
But i live in a city inside a city but outside of a city.:p
What were you going to right in green? *Confused*

But i live in a city inside a city but outside of a city.:p
What were you going to right in green? *Confused*
We dont understand.

We dont understand.
You and your multiple personalities may not, but I do!
What were you going to right in green? *Confused*
The fraternal Hidden-Green Warsaw Society (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10778509&postcount=46).

I've always lived in a city, and although its been an amazing place to grow up because of the culture that is available, I really want to live in the country. It just seems so much more peaceful.

Megalopolis, please.

Country. Preferably in the Mountains. Alaska is good.