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I men what is? Most adults I know seem to be even suckier than most.

Especially teachers "Act your own age" Why should I "act" my own age, I obviously am being my own age. It impossible not to be really. If you are acting like a two year old at age fourteen. So what? Oh well sorry.

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I men what is? Most adults I know seem to be even suckier than most.

Especially teachers "Act your own age" Why should I "act" my own age, I obviously am being my own age. It impossible not to be really. If you are acting like a two year old at age fourteen. So what? Oh well sorry.

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Whiskey tango foxtrot - over.

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I men what is? Most adults I know seem to be even suckier than most.

Especially teachers "Act your own age" Why should I "act" my own age, I obviously am being my own age. It impossible not to be really. If you are acting like a two year old at age fourteen. So what? Oh well sorry.

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I tend to think of adults who go out of their way to act "mature" as dumbasses, especially parents who act "responsible" (Put on these clothes, NOW / do these meaningless chores because I said so / don't you dare talk back to me / etc.).

Be yourself. Don't act the way people tell you. I know I don't.

I have the benifit of my experiences, which gives me wisdom but teenagers think I am stupid anyway, you know since they know everything.

I get to make my own house rules, but I have to pay for the house, so you know working my butt off and not much to show for it


I get to be the boss, although that means I have to discipline my kids, even when I understand where they are coming from and even when I am too tired to do so, and then they hate me.

I get to stay up late, up until 4am, but then I have to get up at 5am so no big fun there.


not much is great. I wouldn't want to be a teen ever again though, the arrogance, the pressure, the sleeping late on weekends.

Whiskey tango foxtrot - over.

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thats the best thing Ive seen all day

As an "adult", I have to agree. Being responsible for my own actions sucks. I want to move back in with my parents, pay no rent, not have to work, and restrict my worries to 1) where I am getting pot this weekend, and 2) how I can get into my girlfriends pants. That would be sarcasm, excapt I really wish that. I'd take a curfew if it meant I got to have sex with 16 year old girls and had no bills to pay.

I men what is? Most adults I know seem to be even suckier than most.

Especially teachers "Act your own age" Why should I "act" my own age, I obviously am being my own age. It impossible not to be really. If you are acting like a two year old at age fourteen. So what? Oh well sorry.

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Face it kid, one day you're going to grow up and become one of us so-called 'adults' and you'll frown upon the younger generation with the same contempt that most of us stare down upon the younguns with.

When we say 'act your age', what we mean is, "stop being so blasted stupid and listen to us for a change!"

I have the benifit of my experiences, which gives me wisdom but teenagers think I am stupid anyway, you know since they know everything.

I get to make my own house rules, but I have to pay for the house, so you know working my butt off and not much to show for it

I get to be the boss, although that means I have to discipline my kids, even when I understand where they are coming from and even when I am too tired to do so, and then they hate me.

I get to stay up late, up until 4am, but then I have to get up at 5am so no big fun there.

not much is great. I wouldn't want to be a teen ever again though, the arrogance, the pressure, the sleeping late on weekends.
Youth is wasted on the young. ;)

Looking at things from the perspective of almost 63 years, I can see most relationships between teenagers and parents entire. The biggest problem is the gulf in experience. Some things won't change for teens until they have to take responsibility for making what they hope are wise choices and then living with the consequences.

Some things won't change for parents until their teen gets enough experience to provide a context into which to plug what their parents are trying to teach them.

This is why trust between parent and child is so vital. There are going to be times when a teen absoultely cannot comprehend why his or her parent is going to be behaving in a certain way, just as there are going to be times when a parent is going to experience total frustration because he or she can't make their teen understand. But if there has been a steady accumulation of trust between the two, the teen will trust that his or her parent is doing what is best for them ( even though they can't understand it at the time ), and the parent will trust that her or his teen will accept what the parent has to say ( even though the teen obviously doesn't undersand it ).

Trust is vital. Build it, work on it, develop it.

To me, adulthood seems depressing. The myriad of possibilities you had as kid seem gone. You can no longer dream about being a fireman or a president when you grow up. It all seems so set. Then, there's the fact that you're in the "real world," with taxes to deal with. That's the thing that scares me the most about adulthood, the taxes.

Crud, I'm turning 18 in three months.

Being an adult is great.

I can buy as many video games as I want, and no-one can stop me. HAHAHAHA!.

That's the main advantage really.

To me, adulthood seems depressing. The myriad of possibilities you had as kid seem gone. You can no longer dream about being a fireman or a president when you grow up. It all seems so set. Then, there's the fact that you're in the "real world," with taxes to deal with. That's the thing that scares me the most about adulthood, the taxes.

Crud, I'm turning 18 in three months.
Actually, you'll discover that an entire universe of possibilities will open up to you as you get older. The unfortunate thing is that some people continue to believe that childhood is somehow "a better place."

Taxes have always bothered me too, but they've never actually scared me. They're a fact of life, like death and McDonalds. :p

Youth is wasted on the young. ;)

Looking at things from the perspective of almost 63 years, I can see most relationships between teenagers and parents entire. The biggest problem is the gulf in experience. Some things won't change for teens until they have to take responsibility for making what they hope are wise choices and then living with the consequences.

Some things won't change for parents until their teen gets enough experience to provide a context into which to plug what their parents are trying to teach them.

This is why trust between parent and child is so vital. There are going to be times when a teen absoultely cannot comprehend why his or her parent is going to be behaving in a certain way, just as there are going to be times when a parent is going to experience total frustration because he or she can't make their teen understand. But if there has been a steady accumulation of trust between the two, the teen will trust that his or her parent is doing what is best for them ( even though they can't understand it at the time ), and the parent will trust that her or his teen will accept what the parent has to say ( even though the teen obviously doesn't undersand it ).

Trust is vital. Build it, work on it, develop it.


Yeah, I remember the exact day when I realized I knew just about nothing, I was so pissed off, I mean I thought I knew everything, but turns out I didn't, then I felt bad for how bratty I had been to the adults who were trying to help me.

I know for a fact that there are "adults" who haven't come to this realization yet and they annoy me.... still.

I men what is? Most adults I know seem to be even suckier than most.

Especially teachers "Act your own age" Why should I "act" my own age, I obviously am being my own age. It impossible not to be really. If you are acting like a two year old at age fourteen. So what? Oh well sorry.

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It's not like teens are much better. Stupid teenagers become stupid adults. Look at the huge number of stupid teens out there. Then figure that most of them are going to be stupid adults and that for generations before, this has been true.

It's not that the stupid adults are any smarter than the stupid teens; They just bullshit better.

"It's not how old you are: It's how old you act"

Yeah, I remember the exact day when I realized I knew just about nothing, I was so pissed off, I mean I thought I knew everything, but turns out I didn't, then I felt bad for how bratty I had been to the adults who were trying to help me.

I know for a fact that there are "adults" who haven't come to this realization yet and they annoy me.... still.
They don't so much annoy me, I just feel sad for them and their children. Most parents, believe it or not, want to do the best they can for their children, but sometimes they either don't know what that "best" is, or they choose the wrong "best." The truly unfortunate thing is that, by the time these parents wake up to the truth ( indeed, if they ever do ), their children are already too old or too estranged from them for anything the parents do to make a difference. :(

Being a parent is the single most important job you'll ever have, but the one for which almost no training is provided. Sigh.

Most adults I know seem to be even suckier than most.


Wait, what?

All this talk of experience and responsibilty... Now I don't want anyone to take this as if I'm accusing them, but I do want to remind everyone here that both adults and teens vary widely in experience and the ability to trust. Generalizations are not your friend. Speaking as a teen who has seen many different degrees af maturity in both groups, I can say that there are some adults who have no more life experience or concept of responsibilty than the average teenager.

Likewise, I know teenagers who have a much better grasp on life and responsibilty than a lot of adults.(Now I'm not necessarily going to put myself in that group, but you know.) Just my daily reminder to beware of generalizations. :)

Taxes have always bothered me too, but they've never actually scared me. They're a fact of life, like death and McDonalds. :p

You forgot Starbucks.

I'll probaly get my friend to do them, she's studying to become an accountant.

They don't so much annoy me, I just feel sad for them and their children. Most parents, believe it or not, want to do the best they can for their children, but sometimes they either don't know what that "best" is, or they choose the wrong "best." The truly unfortunate thing is that, by the time these parents wake up to the truth ( indeed, if they ever do ), their children are already too old or too estranged from them for anything the parents do to make a difference. :(
yeah, I think they annoy me because they treat people younger than them like crap for no reason. (although it annoys me when anyone treats anyone like crap)

Being a parent is the single most important job you'll ever have, but the one for which almost no training is provided. Sigh.
don't I know it. ;)

All this talk of experience and responsibilty... Now I don't want anyone to take this as if I'm accusing them, but I do want to remind everyone here that both adults and teens vary widely in experience and the ability to trust. Generalizations are not your friend. Speaking as a teen who has seen many different degrees af maturity in both groups, I can say that there are some adults who have no more life experience or concept of responsibilty than the average teenager.

Likewise, I know teenagers who have a much better grasp on life and responsibilty than a lot of adults.(Now I'm not necessarily going to put myself in that group, but you know.) Just my daily reminder to beware of generalizations. :)
Wise you are, grasshopper. Wiser yet, shall you become. :)

It's not like teens are much better. Stupid teenagers become stupid adults. Look at the huge number of stupid teens out there. Then figure that most of them are going to be stupid adults and that for generations before, this has been true.

It's not that the stupid adults are any smarter than the stupid teens; They just bullshit better.

"It's not how old you are: It's how old you act"

That last little platitude is more than Kinda Sensible, I think. There isn't as big a difference between teens and adults when you think of it in terms of mature people vs. immature people. (Or smart vs. Stupid, for that matter.)

You forgot Starbucks.

I'll probaly get my friend to do them, she's studying to become an accountant.
There ya go! Nice decision. :)

That last little platitude is more than Kinda Sensible, I think. There isn't as big a difference between teens and adults when you think of it in terms of mature people vs. immature people. (Or smart vs. Stupid, for that matter.)
And your definition of "maturity?" :)

They don't so much annoy me, I just feel sad for them and their children. Most parents, believe it or not, want to do the best they can for their children, but sometimes they either don't know what that "best" is, or they choose the wrong "best." The truly unfortunate thing is that, by the time these parents wake up to the truth ( indeed, if they ever do ), their children are already too old or too estranged from them for anything the parents do to make a difference. :(

Being a parent is the single most important job you'll ever have, but the one for which almost no training is provided. Sigh.

Hey, that's my dad all over!

Of course, I already knew that. He's one of those parents who thinks it's "best" to control virtually every aspect of his kids' lives. You know, the whole "Don't you dare talk back to me, you little fucking piece of shit" / "I don't give a shit about what you think" thing.

I find it rather ironic that he treats us the way he does, even though his dad did the same to him.

Wise you are, grasshopper. Wiser yet, shall you become. :)

Is it good to seek the past, Master Eutrusca? Does it not rob the present?

Hey, that's my dad all over!

Of course, I already knew that. He's one of those parents who thinks it's "best" to control virtually every aspect of his kids' lives. You know, the whole "Don't you dare talk back to me, you little fucking piece of shit" / "I don't give a shit about what you think" thing.

I find it rather ironic that he treats us the way he does, even though his dad did the same to him.
He sounds as if he's simply following the only example he has. A bit of compassion and understanding from you would probably go a long way. :)

Is it good to seek the past, Master Eutrusca? Does it not rob the present?
Past is but prologue. We all carry whatever baggage we acquired along the way, until we become wise enough to cast asside that which slows us down. :)

And your definition of "maturity?" :)

The already mentioned concept of taking responsibilty for your actions, etc. I'll admit that maturity wasn't a very good word to use there. And no, I can't provide a good definition right now. You win.

The already mentioned concept of taking responsibilty for your actions, etc. I'll admit that maturity wasn't a very good word to use there. And no, I can't provide a good definition right now. You win.
Trying to "win," I am not. Trying to help you think through things, I am. :)

He sounds as if he's simply following the only example he has. A bit of compassion and understanding from you would probably go a long way. :)

Tried that. Didn't work. :p

Now, he's not bad all the time, but he still goes overboard too often. I know that when I'm a parent myself, I'm not going to treat my kids that way. The only thing he accomplishes with his outbursts is losing a hell of a lot of respect from yours truly.

And your definition of "maturity?" :)

Like asking tough questions much? :p

"Maturity" is one of those things that's more a matter of not being impulsive about the things you do. It isn't so much what you do, as that you think it through rationally before you do it.

Of course, that begs the questions "What is rational", but I'm sensible (:P) enough to realize that one man's rational is another man's "Rash and obnoxious".

Tried that. Didn't work. :p

Now, he's not bad all the time, but he still goes overboard too often. I know that when I'm a parent myself, I'm not going to treat my kids that way. The only thing he accomplishes with his outbursts is losing a hell of a lot of respect from yours truly.
well, look on the bright side, you are going to be a great parent (believe me that thought got me through most of my childhood)


and EUT.... you got a TG!!!!!!!

Tried that. Didn't work. :p

Now, he's not bad all the time, but he still goes overboard too often. I know that when I'm a parent myself, I'm not going to treat my kids that way. The only thing he accomplishes with his outbursts is losing a hell of a lot of respect from yours truly.
Understandable, but you have hit on a very important thing: even less than perfect parents can serve as example, even if a very bad one. Do not allow his actions to alientate you from him, nor allow yourseft to become bitter. Resentment sometimes breeds bitterness, and bitterness will kill you.

well, look on the bright side, you are going to be a great parent (believe me that thought got me through most of my childhood)


and EUT.... you got a TG!!!!!!!
LOL! Ohhhh-Kayyy! :D

Being an adult kicks ass. I can do whatever I want, whenever I want, with or without who or whatever else I want. It really doesn't get any better than that.

Trying to "win," I am not. Trying to help you think through things, I am. :)

The "you win" was not really my meaning. I recognize your intent, and I do get ahead of myself sometimes. I've definitely had discussions about this sort of thing before, and not nearly as sensible. This way is better.

Perhaps my attention span is also a factor, but I've left NS on a couple occasions(thus the new nation) mostly because of a lack of interest for on the forums. And that's not to say there aren't people worth talking to, because there surely are, they've just been harder to find at some points in the life of this site.

The "you win" was not really my meaning. I recognize your intent, and I do get ahead of myself sometimes. I've definitely had discussions about this sort of thing before, and not nearly as sensible. This way is better.

Perhaps my attention span is also a factor, but I've left NS on a couple occasions(thus the new nation) mostly because of a lack of interest for on the forums. And that's not to say there aren't people worth talking to, because there surely are, they've just been harder to find at some points in the life of this site.
Thank you. :)

Being an adult kicks ass. I can do whatever I want, whenever I want, with or without who or whatever else I want. It really doesn't get any better than that.
If you plan wisely, just wait until you retire! Yeee Hawww! :D

Understandable, but you have hit on a very important thing: even less than perfect parents can serve as example, even if a very bad one. Do not allow his actions to alientate you from him, nor allow yourseft to become bitter. Resentment sometimes breeds bitterness, and bitterness will kill you.

Bitterness isn't very cool, that's for sure.

(Wish I could have come up with a pun for this one.) And Eutrusca, you have another TG.

To me, adulthood seems depressing. The myriad of possibilities you had as kid seem gone. You can no longer dream about being a fireman or a president when you grow up. It all seems so set. Then, there's the fact that you're in the "real world," with taxes to deal with. That's the thing that scares me the most about adulthood, the taxes.

Crud, I'm turning 18 in three months.


One day you will realize that at 18 you're a child -- and you'll wish you still were.

As an "adult", I have to agree. Being responsible for my own actions sucks. I want to move back in with my parents, pay no rent, not have to work, and restrict my worries to 1) where I am getting pot this weekend, and 2) how I can get into my girlfriends pants. That would be sarcasm, excapt I really wish that. I'd take a curfew if it meant I got to have sex with 16 year old girls and had no bills to pay.
I keep seeing this assinine explaination of what being a teenager is like (always from adults too old to really remember). You're still responsible for your own actions to whatever extent the choice was yours to make. Being young and inexperienced does nothing to excuse you from moral responsibility or from being a dumbass.

Any rent that you get out of paying with money is paid in freedom. A curfew is the most refferenced, and the most irrelavent of the lack of freedom. Schoolwork and planned extracuricular activities are more relavent, and the constant butting in on your life whatever you happen to be doing, having your plans overriden by whatever whim strikes a parent should make it clear that a curfew is really not even the tip of the iceburg.

Your list of worries tells me that you're either steriotyping something you know nothing about, or you really were doing nothing but smoking pot and pressuring girls into sex as a kid.

My time in the teenage years (yep, adult now) was by no means the irresponsible lovefest you jackasses keep making it out to be. Maybe I missed out on some typical experiences, but my sexlife was nonexistent in those years, and my worries were "WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE?" repeated as a mantra whenever I so much as sat down in the presence of my parents when I wasn't studying.

That's easy:

Being able to laugh at kids who think they know everything. Knowing what's in store for them as they ask incredibly stupid questions like...well...like this thread title.

"Maturity" is one of those odd qualities that you don't know you're acquiring until you've acquired enough to separate yourself from people who still think scrawling "fuck" on a public restroom or other visible surface is even remotely funny.

Put another of several ways, you stop thinking about how "cool" vandalism or theft is and side with the people whose property has been ruined or stolen.

They don't so much annoy me, I just feel sad for them and their children. Most parents, believe it or not, want to do the best they can for their children, but sometimes they either don't know what that "best" is, or they choose the wrong "best." The truly unfortunate thing is that, by the time these parents wake up to the truth ( indeed, if they ever do ), their children are already too old or too estranged from them for anything the parents do to make a difference. :(

Being a parent is the single most important job you'll ever have, but the one for which almost no training is provided. Sigh.
Agreed Eutrusca.

Wait, what?
I know I reread it and was like WTF?:p

yeah, I think they annoy me because they treat people younger than them like crap for no reason. (although it annoys me when anyone treats anyone like crap)
Wow, that sounds like my brother, he was being a dip to me, he turned 18 like October and hes like "I am 18 I can do what I want now" I shouldn't of told him he was being a condesendsing bastard but you know...

"Maturity" is one of those odd qualities that you don't know you're acquiring until you've acquired enough to separate yourself from people who still think scrawling "fuck" on a public restroom or other visible surface is even remotely funny.

Put another of several ways, you stop thinking about how "cool" vandalism or theft is and side with the people whose property has been ruined or stolen.
If you considered that maturity then you could consider my mature. Whenever I have seen the word fuck written in a toilet or something I am like "What dick did this? Probably someone I know" and stealing property is just fucked. Vandalism? Most people who vandalise are total wangs that tend to hate me and I tend to hate.

That's easy:

Being able to laugh at kids who think they know everything. Knowing what's in store for them as they ask incredibly stupid questions like...well...like this thread title.
Yeah. See thats not mature. That just ass-picking.

Just because I asked "Whats so great about being an adult?" doesn't mean I think I know everything, thats just using steriotypes. Steriotypes are bad. I know that. So do you.

Yeah. See thats not mature. That just ass-picking.
Quoi?

I'm not familiar with that term as slang. Definition?

Quoi?

I'm not familiar with that term as slang. Definition?
Does I just made it up count?

Does I just made it up count?
Oh -- sure. Always. Neologisms are cool, but still, what's it mean?

Oh -- sure. Always. Neologisms are cool, but still, what's it mean?

Probably something akin to "being an ass" or "making an ass of yourself". That's just my take on it though.

The only good thing that I see about being an adult, is at least your not a teenager anymore. Other than that, It sucks. Don't believe me? Look at it this way: as a child, you trade freedom for security, as an adult, you trade away that same freedom for responsibility.

*Damn, now I'm depressed. Life does suck doesn't it?*

The only good thing that I see about being an adult, is at least your not a teenager anymore. Other than that, It sucks. Don't believe me? Look at it this way: as a child, you trade freedom for security, as an adult, you trade away that same freedom for responsibility.

*Damn, now I'm depressed. Life does suck doesn't it?*
Oh horsecrap. Life is fun. Life is something you can play with. I can't stand it when people take themselves and living so frakking seriously! We all die eventually, so why not do your best to make it fun while you're here?

Oh horsecrap. Life is fun. Life is something you can play with. I can't stand it when people take themselves and living so frakking seriously! We all die eventually, so why not do your best to make it fun while you're here?

And exactly who said I was being serious? Are their any witnesses to me ever posting anything serious?

Hey, at least life beats the alternative.

And exactly who said I was being serious? Are their any witnesses to me ever posting anything serious?

Hey, at least life beats the alternative.

I've certainly never seen anything serious from Jim here. (Not my first nation.)

And exactly who said I was being serious? Are their any witnesses to me ever posting anything serious?

Hey, at least life beats the alternative.
Well, ohhh-kayy then! :D

Oh horsecrap. Life is fun. Life is something you can play with. I can't stand it when people take themselves and living so frakking seriously! We all die eventually, so why not do your best to make it fun while you're here?
I am 100% agreeing with you.

Oh horsecrap. Life is fun. Life is something you can play with. I can't stand it when people take themselves and living so frakking seriously! We all die eventually, so why not do your best to make it fun while you're here?

Yay, hedonism :D

I'd love to be a kid again (well, if I coudl actually enjoy my childhood).

cartoons, toys, playing hockey or baseball everyday, videogames.... man that was the life!

Whats so great about being an adult?
being an adult means responsibility, bills, debts, work, and doing that until you retire and eventually die a worn-out, wrinkly shell of a person.

it rocks.

I men what is? Most adults I know seem to be even suckier than most.

Especially teachers "Act your own age" Why should I "act" my own age, I obviously am being my own age. It impossible not to be really. If you are acting like a two year old at age fourteen. So what? Oh well sorry.

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Booze, nicotine and sex. Pretty much it. Anything else has just been downhill since i was seven...

And sweets taste shit once you get older.

I think being an adult kicks ass. no longer do I have to do what my parents tell me to do. So long as I can live the the consequences of my actions, I can pretty well do as I please. And I 've yet to meet a person who can't live with their own consequences.
Of course with age comes wisdom. you learn that its not worth staying up until 3am. there's really nothin' shakin' and you still have to get up at 7 or 8. so why bother. just a simple example.
Most kids don't like adults who talk to them like they don't have a brain and who get hung up on considering actions and consequences. You just have to make a choice and roll with the punches. those choices become much clearer and more quickly made with age, because the older you get the more experience you have under your belt to pretty much see where a certain course of action will take you. Of course kids have a difficult time understanding that many of our responses are based on those experiences as many adults don't realize that the kids they're talking to not only haven't necessarily had those experiences, but may NEVER have them.
I say if you spend to much time contemplating the future you'll never be able to smile and enjoy today.

Yay, hedonism :D
Hehehe! Until it was deted, I had a nation named "Militant Sexperts." The national motto was: "Hedonism is a virtue. Sexperts Uber Alles!" :D

Hehehe! Until it was deted, I had a nation named "Militant Sexperts." The national motto was: "Hedonism is a virtue. Sexperts Uber Alles!" :D
Ewwwww, pervy old man ;)

Ewwwww, pervy old man ;)
Sigh. Well, even though the "old" thang bothers me a bit, I wear the "pervy" designation with pride! :D

Sigh. Well, even though the "old" thang bothers me a bit, I wear the "pervy" designation with pride! :D

I always thought of myself as a gentleman pervert, which i think is the perfect designation for a man. You hold the door open for women, you look at their ass as they go past.

The ladies get best of both worlds ;)

I can buy as many video games as I want, and no-one can stop me. HAHAHAHA!.

That's the main advantage really.

That and pie for breakfast if I want it.

I always thought of myself as a gentleman pervert, which i think is the perfect designation for a man. You hold the door open for women, you look at their ass as they go past.

The ladies get best of both worlds ;)
Exactly! And if you're a true pervoid ( one step above "pervert" ), you grab it instead of just looking! :D

What the Fark?

That and pie for breakfast if I want it.

Ice cream for breakfast is better, man.