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Delete Me Now! Undelete Me Later!

Asbena
17-04-2006, 01:10
Sounds cool huh?

http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/1994/june94/pcn0603/pcn0603.asp&guid=
http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/731/

Back in 1994 Mircosoft came up with this Undelete command. You could restore deleted files if you accidentally deleted them. What's with it now?

Recently I deleted a file I had saved on my palm, the file was tiny...but it was a lot of text. My question, how to get it back. Well....apparently you can't! Then I looked into Windows...and guess what YOU CAN'T!

Not only did that annoy me is that I found proof from the first article listed that I cannot do this now! WHERE DID THE COMMAND GO!? Did MS remove another thing!?

What pisses me off to no end is that I cannot undelete things at all unless I pay for it. Also the FBI and other people can regulary recover the 'deleted' (which is really marked for overwriting) on the hard drive. I think we should have this ability on our computers and devices if we do make such a mistake.

Anyone else annoyed by this and think that the next version of Microsoft or whatever product should actually make use of this 'undelete' function?
Lunatic Goofballs
17-04-2006, 01:12
*cough* recycle bin *cough*
The UN abassadorship
17-04-2006, 01:14
*cough* recycle bin *cough*
*cough* click restore files *cough*
Asbena
17-04-2006, 01:15
Could you read it?

This about palm pilots and other devices. I know a computer has a recycle bin, but my palm DIDN'T. Deleting it meant it was GONE. X_X

Besides, I should want to get some recycle bin deleted stuff if I wanted to. :)
Secluded Islands
17-04-2006, 01:19
This about palm pilots and other devices. I know a computer has a recycle bin, but my palm DIDN'T. Deleting it meant it was GONE. X_X

maybe you deleted the recycling bin...
Dinaverg
17-04-2006, 01:22
Could you read it?

This about palm pilots and other devices. I know a computer has a recycle bin, but my palm DIDN'T. Deleting it meant it was GONE. X_X

Besides, I should want to get some recycle bin deleted stuff if I wanted to. :)

Remindeds me of video games and memory cards and such. The moral here?: Be careful as to what you delete.
The Infinite Dunes
17-04-2006, 01:29
maybe you deleted the recycling bin...It was an old DOS command that stopped including in later versions. After that you had to buy software which would do exactly the same thing, but you had to pay for the software, which basically all it did was searched for files on your hard drive that begin with an asterisk. When a file is 'permanently' from the recycle bin Windows just replaces the first letter of the file name with an asterisk and no longer includes in root file or something like that. Any infomation contained within such a file is classed 'free space' and the file is recoverable until the file is written over by another file. This is why you always perform a full format of your hard drive if you want to throw it out and it contains sensitive infomation. Quick formats just wipe the Master file table (which I think is just an index of the infomation on your hard drive).

This is a free undelete program... I think. I have no idea if it's any good.
http://www.pctools.com/file-recover/
Asbena
17-04-2006, 01:34
That's my point, whatever happened to it?

Also the PCtools one does not recover large files, a few ones do small things, but nothing major.
The Infinite Dunes
17-04-2006, 01:38
That's my point, whatever happened to it?

Also the PCtools one does not recover large files, a few ones do small things, but nothing major.I remember when I was mucking about with the DOS that came with Win98 only to find it was a bastardised version of DOS that was nothing like the MS DOS 6 that I found described in a DOS manual I found in the attic. It did make older games, like C&C, more stable if I played them in DOS, so I was satisfied.
Asbena
17-04-2006, 01:43
Windows 98 was stable because of its system, as they moved away from the DOS systems it starts to break down as they move further away from a primary system to a GUI (which is secondary) system. XP was pretty nice though.
The Infinite Dunes
17-04-2006, 01:49
Windows 98 was stable because of its system, as they moved away from the DOS systems it starts to break down as they move further away from a primary system to a GUI (which is secondary) system. XP was pretty nice though.Well my experience was that C&C would crash a lot in Windows 98, but it never crashed whilst running from DOS. Stupid resource hugging windows.
Asbena
17-04-2006, 01:53
Well my experience was that C&C would crash a lot in Windows 98, but it never crashed whilst running from DOS. Stupid resource hugging windows.

The original yes. It almost seemed to be played in DOS form. It was faster and looked a little better. No crashes also.
The Infinite Dunes
17-04-2006, 01:57
The original yes. It almost seemed to be played in DOS form. It was faster and looked a little better. No crashes also.And now WinXP won't even run the original C&C. :( It was my favourite. I just thought the balance of units was pretty good compared to the rest. Except Nod Nukes... wiping your whole view of the map leaving no buildings intact and only mammoth tanks alive. Anyway, enough with the hijack.... sorry... :(